Topic: Trent Alexander-Arnold

[Bobinhood]

Shame about Milner taking his position though  Gonna need to show up in training to get back in.....

[RedG13]

It can repeat, Al, just more mildly. Even two different strands can be caught together.

Also very likely he is vaccinated along with the rest of his teammates

[Eeyore]

Also very likely he is vaccinated along with the rest of his teammates

Yep almost all Premier League players have had at least one jab. Confirmed cases of a double infection are extremely rare.

[So… Howard Philips]

Yep almost all Premier League players have had at least one jab. Confirmed cases of a double infection are extremely rare.

Chester's manager had it mildly last year, caught it this year - to busy to be vaccinated - and ended up in ICU.

[didi shamone]

Jürgen Klopp: "We did not plan to leave Trent out. He did not feel well after breakfast. It is not Covid at least. You have to be sensible in these moments and send him home."

Probably had jelly and custard for breakfast. Our players need to take some tips from the pros at old Trafford.

[Hazell]

Probably had jelly and custard for breakfast. Our players need to take some tips from the pros at old Trafford.

No no, 'custaaard'.

[Morgana]

Shame about Milner taking his position though  Gonna need to show up in training to get back in.....

James is a beast to be fair. But can he do it twice a week at his age? 

[newterp]

No no, 'custaaard'.

Custaaaaaard eaten (too) quickly.....

[Peabee]

Yep almost all Premier League players have had at least one jab. Confirmed cases of a double infection are extremely rare.

I’m not disagreeing, but do you have a source for that?

[farawayred]

I’m not disagreeing, but do you have a source for that?

Loosely recalled information, but double infections are said to be difficult to track because the second one leads to much weaker symptoms due to the immunity from the first one (which fades in time too). The best known cases are turning up nowadays with the delta variant infecting people having the alpha previously. And the data are just being verified. The first case in the US of a person having both alpha and delta variants was a woman who got them in February, but it the results came out just a couple of weeks ago. We'd know more in the future.

[Peabee]

Loosely recalled information, but double infections are said to be difficult to track because the second one leads to much weaker symptoms due to the immunity from the first one (which fades in time too). The best known cases are turning up nowadays with the delta variant infecting people having the alpha previously. And the data are just being verified. The first case in the US of a person having both alpha and delta variants was a woman who got them in February, but it the results came out just a couple of weeks ago. We'd know more in the future.

Al probably means that severe symptoms from doubles cases are rare then?

My brother had both jabs then caught Covid. Not the only person I know of either. I know anecdotal evidence isn’t sound, but it counters the rarity of jabbed people catching covid (which I’ve inferred were included due to jabs being mentioned in the same statement) if I know of people from a small sample size. Unless I happen to know a lot of the rare cases, which would be unlikely.

Not disagreeing as I’ve not looked up the data to be honest.

[Eeyore]

I’m not disagreeing, but do you have a source for that?

The data is incomplete.

The issue is that people shed the virus at different rates depending on the severity of the infection. People who have a severe infection potentially test positive long after people who have a mild infection.

A lot of supposed reinfections are due to people still shedding the virus. They haven't got COVID but still test positive a second time.

This is a good source.

https://www.medscape.com/answers/2500114-197467/what-is-the-duration-of-viral-shedding-in-persons-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

[farawayred]

Al probably means that severe symptoms from doubles cases are rare then?

My brother had both jabs then caught Covid. Not the only person I know of either. I know anecdotal evidence isn’t sound, but it counters the rarity of jabbed people catching covid (which I’ve inferred were included due to jabs being mentioned in the same statement) if I know of people from a small sample size. Unless I happen to know a lot of the rare cases, which would be unlikely.

Not disagreeing as I’ve not looked up the data to be honest.

Being fully vaccinated and catching Covid is not that rare, especially with the delta variant around (1200 times the viral load of the alpha). I also know personally quite a few cases. It's only that you don't develop strong symptoms. But for footballers, who run themselves to exhaustion, that may have different consequences altogether...

Anyway, good that Trent doesn't have Covid, if true.

[Eeyore]

Loosely recalled information, but double infections are said to be difficult to track because the second one leads to much weaker symptoms due to the immunity from the first one (which fades in time too). The best known cases are turning up nowadays with the delta variant infecting people having the alpha previously. And the data are just being verified. The first case in the US of a person having both alpha and delta variants was a woman who got them in February, but it the results came out just a couple of weeks ago. We'd know more in the future.

Professional footballers are probably the perfect subset though. They are tested so often that the possibility of shedding leading to a false positive are greatly reduced.

Trent will have gained immunity from his first infection, plus he will almost certainly have been double jabbed. The chances of a reinfection are probably about the same as Everton winning the League.

[Peabee]

The data is incomplete.

The issue is that people shed the virus at different rates depending on the severity of the infection. People who have a severe infection potentially test positive long after people who have a mild infection.

A lot of supposed reinfections are due to people still shedding the virus. They haven't got COVID but still test positive a second time.

This is a good source.

https://www.medscape.com/answers/2500114-197467/what-is-the-duration-of-viral-shedding-in-persons-with-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19

My brother didn’t have many symptoms other than feeling tired. He only had a test just to make sure so he didn’t infect anyone at work.
The jab doesn’t really stop us being infected, it helps our immune system fight it. It’s still unclear whether the vaccine affects transmission as vaccinated people could still infect others, which is probably why we’re still seeing high daily cases (and why I still wear a mask).

[4pool]

Just saw this advert:

Trent has had a promotion. He's not just Liverpools Right Back he is now...

Global Football Star

18 seconds in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNZFcYXs8Q8

[jckliew]

One cannot confirm that one "does not have Covid" at that instance.
Incubation is 14 days. So the instantaneous test is only good at that point in time.

[kavah]

Just saw this advert:

Trent has had a promotion. He's not just Liverpools Right Back he is now...

Global Football Star

18 seconds in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNZFcYXs8Q8

Nice one 

[jillcwhomever]

Why are people mentioning COVID when the club have already said it’s nothing to do with that?

[Crimson]

Why are people mentioning COVID when the club have already said it’s nothing to do with that?

I agree, if that was the case, the whole squad would be quarantined. Official site mentioned he fell ill after breakfast on Saturday.

James Milner found out he would be playing right-back on Saturday just a matter of hours before kick-off.

When Trent Alexander-Arnold, who was set to feature from his usual position, fell ill after breakfast, Milner was called upon to deputise in a defence that was completely changed from the preceding win over AC Milan.

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/443971-talking-points-keita-s-stunner-a-wow-for-milner-and-many-milestones
 

[Clint Eastwood]

What has happened to his free-kicks?

There was a time where I’d feel very confident we’d score when we had a free kick in a dangerous position and he was stood over it. I had the same feeling with Gerrard, Suarez, Coutinho. His one just before half time was in a perfect position. He doesn’t look dangerous at all now. I’d consider giving someone else a go.

[scatman]

he's just shite at them, nothing's really happened, he gets one a game and puts it over the bar. Shaqiri in his time here was way more deadlier from dead ball situations. The corners are just as bad at the moment from him and Robertson. In contrast every time Tsimikas is about to take a corner, I feel like we'll score

[naYoRHa2b]

Maybe he hasn't been focusing on that side of his game, I mean I'd be surprised if he hasn't but maybe with all the chat about not defending well he's prioritising other aspects.

But yeah the thought crosses my mind more as the games go on, he hasn't really threatened from a free kick in a while. Saying that though I'm not sure we've got anybody else..

[Caligula?]

Not sure he can be criticized for his free kicks. I never really expect him to score. Simply put he's just not that good of a free kick taker. Gerrard, Alonso, Coutinho, Suarez. Those were good free kick takers. I'm pretty sure if Mo had taken the same number of free kicks over the previous 2-3 seasons as Trent he'd have as many goals if not more.

[farawayred]

He just came back from an illness. His crossing was not per his usual standard. But we dopn't have another RB option, maybe Gomez only.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Not sure he can be criticized for his free kicks. I never really expect him to score. Simply put he's just not that good of a free kick taker. Gerrard, Alonso, Coutinho, Suarez. Those were good free kick takers. I'm pretty sure if Mo had taken the same number of free kicks over the previous 2-3 seasons as Trent he'd have as many goals if not more.

How is Alonso in this conversation? He's scored a handful of free kicks in his career, similar to Trent.

[Funky_Gibbons]

All three goals came at our back post.

[FLRed67]

I think I know how to help him.

His corner kicks go straight to the first man, and his free-kicks go high over the bar.

So why not tell him to pretend he's taking a free-kick when he goes to the the corner flag, and to pretend he's taking a corner when he goes to take a free kick?

Voila - problem solved.

[farawayred]

All three goals came at our back post.

You realize that he was one against three for their third goal, right? Where were Hendo and Salah to cover?

I can't fault him for either of the three goals, to be honest.

[number 168]

I think I know how to help him.

His corner kicks go straight to the first man, and his free-kicks go high over the bar.

So why not tell him to pretend he's taking a free-kick when he goes to the the corner flag, and to pretend he's taking a corner when he goes to take a free kick?

Voila - problem solved.

To be fair we have two corner plans: Plan A hit the first man; Plan B balloon it over everybody.

[Morgana]

The right back should never be 3 on one with the opposing attack. What were Virgil and Joel doing today? The whole defence was absolutely shambolic and they hung Trent out to dry.

But I agree on the free kicks to a certain extent. The ones that are just on the edge of the box should probably go to Salah. Otherwise, change it up every now and then: Salah takes one then Trent takes the next one. Make it interesting and competitive.

[jillcwhomever]

He just came back from an illness. His crossing was not per his usual standard. But we dopn't have another RB option, maybe Gomez only.

Hasn't Milner also been used as RB, I would prefer to see Gomez be given more games at CB.

[farawayred]

Hasn't Milner also been used as RB, I would prefer to see Gomez be given more games at CB.

Yes, but Milner is also needed in MF... We are opening a gaping hole there with games every 3 days. Fab, Hendo and Curtis can't play every game...

[jillcwhomever]

Yes, but Milner is also needed in MF... We are opening a gaping hole there with games every 3 days. Fab, Hendo and Curtis can't play every game...

We also have Chamberlain and hopefully Keita will be back as well.

[farawayred]

We also have Chamberlain and hopefully Keita will be back as well.

Keita, yes, if (or when) he recovers, but Ox? What has he done this season to show merit?

[jillcwhomever]

Keita, yes, if (or when) he recovers, but Ox? What has he done this season to show merit?

We will need everyone in the squad if we want to compete for the competitions. While his form has been patchy since coming back, there is no way he won't still be used and we have to hope he finds some more form, especially while Thiago is out.

[Elzar]

Didn’t seem to be overlapping today. Was going infield a lot more, seemed odd. Didn’t open it up for Salah as much.

[farawayred]

We will need everyone in the squad if we want to compete for the competitions. While his form has been patchy since coming back, there is no way he won't still be used and we have to hope he finds some more form, especially while Thiago is out.

Oh, they will all be used for the benefit of the whole team, I agree. But we have Porto and City next, and gaps are showing. I don't think tat Ox will play a part unless either game is secured, and I don't know of Keita will recover in time.

[Illmatic]

Not sure he can be criticized for his free kicks. I never really expect him to score. Simply put he's just not that good of a free kick taker. Gerrard, Alonso, Coutinho, Suarez. Those were good free kick takers. I'm pretty sure if Mo had taken the same number of free kicks over the previous 2-3 seasons as Trent he'd have as many goals if not more.

Are there any top free kick takers in the PL these days? I mean Ward-Prowse is pretty good but apart from him I can't think anyone. Ward-Prowse would only be a squad player for us.

Don't recall Alonso scoring too many but the other three were exceptional especially Coutinho who then decides to join a team in Barcelona where he was never take them at least while Messi was there and bizarrely Neymar took them ahead him for Brazil.     

[Ghost Town]

To be fair we have two corner plans: Plan A hit the first man; Plan B balloon it over everybody.

Plan C get Kostas to take them