Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé

[killer-heels]

MacAllister (soon)
Lavia (soon)
Gravenberch (after a 6 week tussle)
Inacio or Van de Ven (soon)

Something like that would be my best guess, as things look to be shaping up. Mind you, it’s impossible to tell what will happen, as there are so many variables.

Nothing wrong with that as long as the fees are sensible. We will scream desperate if Lavia and Mac Allister combined cost us £100m and more.

Also it would help us get top four. People should forget about City, we are not putting out an 11 anywhere close to what they will put out. Our challenge is to improve, get into the top four and if we are serious about a title challenge hope to see significant improvements in the performances of Diaz and Nunez.

[jillcwhomever]

Thing is the FSG fans who are admitting right now they have to back Klopp and believe they will (Avens and co) this summer will be on here in August coming up with excuses for them when they don't. 

"We are self sustaining"
"We didn't have UCL money"
"We aren't owned by a state"
"They saved us"

Stop calling people who don't follow your tune FSG fans, it is so irritating for people to dress it up in this pathetic manner.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Stop calling people who don't follow your tune FSG fans, it is so irritating for people to dress it up in this pathetic manner.

Are FSG fans "Top Reds"?, it's all so confusing nowadays.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Nothing wrong with that as long as the fees are sensible. We will scream desperate if Lavia and Mac Allister combined cost us £100m and more.

Also it would help us get top four. People should forget about City, we are not putting out an 11 anywhere close to what they will put out. Our challenge is to improve, get into the top four and if we are serious about a title challenge hope to see significant improvements in the performances of Diaz and Nunez.

I would imagine those 4 would cost us about £160 million, although I think beyond Lavia that's decent value.

With the £40 million being quoted for Lavia I just think we can get better for that amount, or similar for cheaper.

I think for that price you may as well go for Kone - I don't think k he is the finished article, far from it, but he seems more established and apparently about £10 million cheaper than Lavia.

In any event such signings would help for top 4. I don't think they guarentee it, far from it, but they help

[CraigDS]

Stop calling people who don't follow your tune FSG fans, it is so irritating for people to dress it up in this pathetic manner.

Absolutely fucking tiring is what it is.

I don't watch a whole lot of football outside of Liverpool games, and we're being linked with a hell of a lot of players. It would be good to have a thread I could go and read posts from some of the genuinely knowledgeable, wider footballing watching members (and Samie) about these players without having to go through the shitloads of posts going on about the financial terms (which they know fuck all about) or the owners (go and do that in their thread).

[killer-heels]

I would imagine those 4 would cost us about £160 million, although I think beyond Lavia that's decent value.

With the £40 million being quoted for Lavia I just think we can get better for that amount, or similar for cheaper.

I think for that price you may as well go for Kone - I don't think k he is the finished article, far from it, but he seems more established and apparently about £10 million cheaper than Lavia

I havent seen Ignacio play and I am a big fan of Gravenberch but if we invest £160m on that then it would be absolutely mad. Whats the point having a supposedly excellent analytics department and then saying here you are, heres a list anyone could have made at home.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Care to elaborate who exactly the FSG fans are in people?

I'm not accusing anyone of being either of the top groups I mentioned, I'm merely trying to ascertain if FSG fans actually are what shoppers refer to as "Top Reds" is all.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

I havent seen Ignacio play and I am a big fan of Gravenberch but if we invest £160m on that then it would be absolutely mad. Whats the point having a supposedly excellent analytics department and then saying here you are, heres a list anyone could have made at home.

Gravenberch and Ignacio do seem a bit more out there so in need of the analytics, I think they'll costs about £60 mill for the two but that doesn't seem outrageous.

I think £60 million for Mac Allister isn't bad with the running rate - for a midfielder performing very well for club and country (in the PL for the club) in today's market that seems fine when you consider midfielders from lower leagues or midfielders doing poorly cost £50 million.

Lavia for £40 million seems like a bad deal right now, that's the one I would be questioning

[So… Howard Philips]

I'm not accusing anyone of being either of the top groups I mentioned, I'm merely trying to ascertain if FSG fans actually are what shoppers refer to as "Top Reds" is all.

I read your post  as being a bit tongue in cheek, bit like “Are FSG the baddies now?”.

[CraigDS]

I'm not accusing anyone of being either of the top groups I mentioned, I'm merely trying to ascertain if FSG fans actually are what shoppers refer to as "Top Reds" is all.

FSG's home strip is mauve shirt and shorts with yellow socks. So I think, technically, FSG fans would be "Top Mauves".

[Clint Eastwood]

MacAllister (soon)
Lavia (soon)
Gravenberch (after a 6 week tussle)
Inacio or Van de Ven (soon)

Something like that would be my best guess, as things look to be shaping up. Mind you, it’s impossible to tell what will happen, as there are so many variables.

Hope not. If we're signing three midfielders you'd hope more than one can go straight into the first team.

[Asam]

Is the thought process in not replacing Fabinho that we will simply have more bodies in midfield with the new system? if this is the case then i can see us sticking with only 2 midfielders, one defender and a forward since Carvalho could go on loan

[killer-heels]

Is the thought process in not replacing Fabinho that we will simply have more bodies in midfield with the new system? if this is the case then i can see us sticking with only 2 midfielders, one defender and a forward since Carvalho could go on loan

Not sure compromising on footballers is the best approach.

[red mongoose]

Lavia would be a good signing. He's probably not ready to play all the games but he's 19 and looks like Fabinho isn't going anywhere.

What is good about him other than (hidden) potential? What have you seen in his games this season that makes you think it would be a good signing? Even his coach said that he hasn't been good.

[spider-neil]

The analysts is to determine if they fit within our system. Scouts are the ones that identify hidden gems.

[blert596]

Can people stop talking about Bellingham? We are never meeting his £350,000 per week after tax wage demands. The boy and his father are money grabbers, and we don't like people like that anywhere near our club ...

Why all of a sudden have they become money grabbers? A month ago he was loved and everyone thought it was great that he had virtually chosen us.

Cue FSG saying you're not having the money for him if you want others as well. He then goes to another elite team who are willing to pay him a massive wage. I doubt he held Madrid to ransom over the exact amount, but they were willing to pay whatever. Why not make a few bob?

Typical Rawk. We love him. He's not coming to us. Oh, hes a c*nt then.

[Skeeve]

I hope we don't sign Lavia because it'd signal that we're pushing for a top 4 place and not the title. This strategy of signing young players with potential reminds me of Wenger's Arsenal when they went 9 years without a trophy. They only started winning again after they signed the likes of Ozil and Sanchez.

People will defend anything on here anyway but Lavia is not at the level required (right now) if we want to compete.

Not necessarily true, with us only being in the EL, we will have more playing time to allow a player that was slightly more of a project the time they needed to settle in. Obviously, this would need to be in addition to two midfield signings that were ready to start right away.

[Agent99]

MacAllister (soon)
Lavia (soon)
Gravenberch (after a 6 week tussle)
Inacio or Van de Ven (soon)

[PeterTheRed ...]

At least you'll have company then.

When I didn't go to the funny farm after the war in Bosnia, I am certainly not going there after a transfer window ...

[PeterTheRed ...]

A couple of pages ago an agreement seemed to be reached about discussing the attributes of players we are interested in/suit our style.

Yet again it’s degenerated into an FSG knocking thread, when one of them exists.

To be honest, some people are on this forum just to criticize FSG, and don't have much clue about football in general ...

[Romford_Red]

We can't sign anyone transfer window hasn't opened.

Aren't we currently IN a We-can't-sign-anyone transfer window?

[Hedley Lamarr]

Am I the only one that admires Peter's flat out reluctance to be taken the piss out of ? I don't know if he's right, you're righter nobody is right, but he bats it all down like a pro.  God speed Peter, your opinion is as valid as anyones (although no more valid).

[Dave McCoy]

An article on Lavia by someone who's actually watch him consistently this season...

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2023/05/why-sky-is-the-limit-for-lfc-target-romeo-lavia-he-has-all-the-tools/

No real meat on the bone here other than saying he was our best player and £40m is a bargain.

I'm not going to sit here and say I've seen him every game. Maybe I've seen 3 or 4 Southampton games? So if we go by what his coaches say and other scouts say, he's physically impressive but no where near ready for the parts of the actual game where he has to use the ball but hopefully he can develop there in 2-3 years time. If so then he's probably one of the best in the league at that point which would be great. It just doesn't seem like he's what we need at the moment is what I think most are saying.

[DelTrotter]

TNT Sports Argentina
@TNTSportsAR

Alexis Mac Allister will say goodbye to the Brighton fans after the game against Aston Villa, on Sunday for the Premier League

✅ The world champion is close to joining Liverpool, only final details remain

.....

Not much new but hopefully we get the Orny or Joycey banger on Sunday night.

[CraigDS]

But Pep hugged him.

[rawcusk8]

But Klopp will have to be at his most charming

[Hazell]

But Klopp will have to be at his most charming

He will. I mean, he doesn't knew his Claret from his Beaujolais for one thing.

[tubby]

He will. I mean, he doesn't knew his Claret from his Beaujolais for one thing.

I got that one, obvs.

[Romford_Red]

Thing is the FSG fans who are admitting right now they have to back Klopp and believe they will (Avens and co) this summer will be on here in August coming up with excuses for them when they don't. 

"We are self sustaining"
"We didn't have UCL money"
"We aren't owned by a state"
"They saved us"

I think most of 'us' see FSG as good owners that could be better and having had the cowboys, are content with them.
When what you say happens, most of us accept the reality and see how we go from there.

Too much about the FSG question is the black and white extremes, usually hurled by one side at the other and then reciprocated.

Personally I don't see Transfers=success and no transfers=failure. Transfers can be a success but they can also fail. Players can step up, regain form and also not do any of that. Football is a complex weave of questions and answers and I enjoy that. Seeing the journey along the way is why I support and why I watch. As it says above, we'll climb the hill in our own way.

[DelTrotter]

César Luis Merlo
@CLMerlo
Alexis Mac Allister's arrival in Liverpool comes at a key moment: everything is well advanced and next week his father and agent will travel to England.
*The contractual offer is up to 2028 and it remains to finish accelerating and close the exit with Brighton.

Looks like next week we get comunicado oficial!

[Samie]

CL Merlo is Argie players Joyce. So it's done.

[PeterTheRed ...]

TNT Sports Argentina
@TNTSportsAR

Alexis Mac Allister will say goodbye to the Brighton fans after the game against Aston Villa, on Sunday for the Premier League

✅ The world champion is close to joining Liverpool, only final details remain

.....

Not much new but hopefully we get the Orny or Joycey banger on Sunday night.

César Luis Merlo
@CLMerlo
Alexis Mac Allister's arrival in Liverpool comes at a key moment: everything is well advanced and next week his father and agent will travel to England.
*The contractual offer is up to 2028 and it remains to finish accelerating and close the exit with Brighton.

Looks like next week we get comunicado oficial!

I must admit, I'd be very happy with this signing. I haven't paid much attention to him until the World Cup and the first links to us, but since then I've been watching him on quite a few ocassions, and I am very confident that he will be a huge player for us.

I understand why some people don't share my enthusiasm (yet), since Mac Allister is one of those "jack of all trades, master of none" players, but I have a feeling that he will be an absolutely perfect fit for Jurgen's midfield, exactly because of that ...

[disgraced cake]

Mac Allister can't be the worst place to start this summer, surely. Interested to find out who the next one is who can come into that midfield and take it up a level from the start of next season.

[So… Howard Philips]

César Luis Merlo
@CLMerlo
Alexis Mac Allister's arrival in Liverpool comes at a key moment: everything is well advanced and next week his father and agent will travel to England.
*The contractual offer is up to 2028 and it remains to finish accelerating and close the exit with Brighton.

Looks like next week we get comunicado oficial!

As long as it’s comunicado and not incommunicado or, even worse, excommunicado.

[tubby]

He's a very good player but I'm still not convinced about the price.  There has to better value out there, especially with our limited budget.

[Hazell]

As long as it’s comunicado and not incommunicado or, even worse, excommunicado.

I read that in Lovejoy's voice.

[Agent99]

He's a very good player but I'm still not convinced about the price.  There has to better value out there, especially with our limited budget.

We're spending big this summer mate. Just wait and see.

[clinical]

We're spending big this summer mate. Just wait and see.

If we get the external investment it changes things.

[rawcusk8]

We're spending big this summer mate. Just wait and see.

  That warchest will finally reveal itself.. about time!!!

[Schmidt]

He's a very good player but I'm still not convinced about the price.  There has to better value out there, especially with our limited budget.

Every player I've seen us linked to has been pretty expensive, I don't really understand who these bargains are that people are holding out for.