Author Topic: The PL run-in (Read 984406 times)

kj999 · « **Reply #3800 on:** April 10, 2021, 06:47:25 pm »

Quote from: jackh on April 10, 2021, 06:43:52 pm

Absolutely no chance of this happening.

why?
I'd suggest there IS a chance. And you're talking bollocks.

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #3801 on:** April 10, 2021, 06:48:47 pm »

Quote from: kj999 on April 10, 2021, 06:47:25 pm

why?
I'd suggest there IS a chance. And you're talking bollocks.

Cause it's tomorrow

DelTrotter · « **Reply #3802 on:** April 10, 2021, 06:49:53 pm »

Should do it from here really, that was one of our tougher fixtures left and they are a mid table side which says how kind we've got it. Potentially a few other things to our advantage too, the Utd game is sandwiched between their Europa league semi and they'll have top 4 tied up by then (though we hopefully have CL semi around that but seems unlikely at this moment). City's defeat today means they need a few more points yet and will hopefully try v Chelsea too which will be nice.

jackh · « **Reply #3803 on:** April 10, 2021, 06:52:42 pm »

Quote from: The G in Gerrard on April 10, 2021, 06:48:47 pm

Cause it's tomorrow

andy07 · « **Reply #3804 on:** April 10, 2021, 09:51:49 pm »

Quote from: Simplexity on April 10, 2021, 06:44:52 pm

Massive win that, we might actually do it, but I reckon its us or Leicester. Chelsea look too strong at the moment.

We could do with West Ham winning tomorrow even though we would drop down a place. Keeps Leicester in sight and means we are playing for 3rd or 4th rather than just 4th.

Machae · « **Reply #3805 on:** April 10, 2021, 10:08:39 pm »

Nah, draw. Leicester got a hard run of fixtures, West Ham havent

MonsLibpool · « **Reply #3806 on:** April 10, 2021, 10:40:19 pm »

Let's just focus on ourselves and continue winning. If we do that, we'll finish in the top four.

keano7 · « **Reply #3807 on:** April 10, 2021, 11:07:57 pm »

Leeds away under the lights is going to be tough but at least we have 5 days rest following Madrid whatever happens. A draw in the WHU v Leicester and a Utd win would be the best outcomes tomorrow. Just got to keep winning and see what happens. I still think we’ll come up short but at least we’re giving it a good go.

nayia2002 · « **Reply #3808 on:** April 10, 2021, 11:18:04 pm »

6 wins from 7 should do it for a top 4 finish(70 points)

PeterTheRed ... · « **Reply #3809 on:** April 11, 2021, 12:08:54 am »

Quote from: Simplexity on April 10, 2021, 06:44:52 pm

Massive win that, we might actually do it, but I reckon its us or Leicester. Chelsea look too strong at the moment.

Chelsea have dropped 5 points over their last 3 league games against Leeds, WBA and Crystal Palace. We have dropped none against Wolves, Arsenal and Aston Villa. Anyway ...

Leicester (56)

West Ham (a)
WBA (h)
Crystal Palace (h)
Southampton (a)
Newcastle (h)
Man Utd (a)
Chelsea (a)
Tottenham (h)

Chelsea (54)

Brighton (h)
West Ham (a)
Fulham (h)
Man City (a)
Arsenal (h)
Leicester (h)
Aston Villa (a)

LFC (52)

Leeds (a)
Newcastle (h)
Man Utd (a)
Southampton (h)
WBA (a)
Burnley (a)
Crystal Palace (h)

West Ham (52)

Leicester (h)
Newcastle (a)
Chelsea (h)
Burnley (a)
Everton (h)
Brighton (a)
WBA (a)
Southampton (h)

Tottenham (49)

Man Utd (h)
Everton (a)
Southampton (h)
Sheffield Utd (h)
Leeds (a)
Wolves (h)
Aston Villa (h)
Leicester (a)

Everton (47)

Brighton (a)
Tottenham (h)
Arsenal (a)
Aston Villa (h)
West Ham (a)
Sheffield Utd (h)
Wolves (h)
Man City (a)
Aston Villa (a) postponed fixture

Based on that, even the race for the 3rd spot is wide open, not only the race for the 4th spot. We will see how it goes ...

Anfield Kopite · « **Reply #3810 on:** April 11, 2021, 01:04:36 pm »

Quote from: Anfield Kopite on February 15, 2021, 08:41:21 am

Man City look like they have the title wrapped up leaving the rest to fight for the other 3 places. The contenders are Man United, Leicester, Ourselves, Chelsea, West Ham, Everton, Aston Villa, Spurs and Arsenal.
I think United will finish 2nd or 3rd and qualify. Then 2 out of Us, Leicester and Chelsea will complete the top 4.

I posted the above 2 months ago and it looks pretty accurate. Recent wins for us over Arsenal and Villa have ended any lingering hopes they had. Still think its 2 out of Leicester, Chelsea and Us to fill 3rd and 4th places

MonsLibpool · « **Reply #3811 on:** April 11, 2021, 01:16:29 pm »

Quote from: Anfield Kopite on April 11, 2021, 01:04:36 pm

I posted the above 2 months ago and it looks pretty accurate. Recent wins for us over Arsenal and Villa have ended any lingering hopes they had. Still think its 2 out of Leicester, Chelsea and Us to fill 3rd and 4th places

Wouldn't be against a Westham win today.

Sharado · « **Reply #3812 on:** April 11, 2021, 01:31:47 pm »

Quote from: MonsLibpool on April 10, 2021, 10:40:19 pm

Let's just focus on ourselves and continue winning. If we do that, we'll finish in the top four.

This is all it comes down to for me. Every single other team in the mix is going to drop plenty of points. If we keep winning we don't need to think about anyone else.

Red_Mist · « **Reply #3813 on:** April 11, 2021, 01:39:16 pm »

Quote from: MonsLibpool on April 11, 2021, 01:16:29 pm

Wouldn't be against a Westham win today.

There’s not really a bad result for us in that game today. Either one rival or two rivals for the top four will drop points. I hope it’s both and 4 points dropped, but one of them and 3 points is fine too.

Stockholm Syndrome · « **Reply #3814 on:** April 11, 2021, 02:41:38 pm »

We essentially need perfect or near perfect runs in our last games, but if we do that, we are likely to get into one of the spots, as our contenders play each other and so have to drop points

DTRed · « **Reply #3815 on:** April 11, 2021, 02:48:16 pm »

Hoping for a WH win today. Brendan seems to be having his usual end of season dip in form and could even miss out again if they're not careful.

Not worried by WH winning as they are still likely to drop off over the next few games.

As much as I hate saying it, I'd prefer a Manc win over Spurs as Mourinho needs to be out of this race early.

Melbred · « **Reply #3816 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:04:43 pm »

As it stands, this is a good result for us.

Red_Rich · « **Reply #3817 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:08:10 pm »

Which part of 4th being a straight shootout between us and Chelsea don't people understand?! Being happy with a West Ham win isn't an option! I suppose the same people want a Spurs win as well do they so we end up back in 7th?!! I don't get it. There's six games left! We ain't catching Leicester and United in that time. Hoping for Chelsea, W Ham and Spurs defeats is the only way. Get it?

newterp · « **Reply #3818 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:11:04 pm »

Quote from: Red_Rich on April 11, 2021, 03:08:10 pm

Which part of 4th being a straight shootout between us and Chelsea don't people understand?! Being happy with a West Ham win isn't an option! I suppose the same people want a Spurs win as well do they so we end up back in 7th?!! I don't get it. There's six games left! We ain't catching Leicester and United in that time. Hoping for Chelsea, W Ham and Spurs defeats is the only way. Get it?

There are 7 games left, right?

Studgotelli · « **Reply #3819 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:12:27 pm »

IMO we need a win in all our games and see if we can get at least a draw v Utd.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #3820 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:13:34 pm »

Quote from: newterp on April 11, 2021, 03:11:04 pm

There are 7 games left, right?

Or 8, or 9, or even 6, depending on who you support.

DTRed · « **Reply #3821 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:14:45 pm »

Quote from: Red_Rich on April 11, 2021, 03:08:10 pm

Which part of 4th being a straight shootout between us and Chelsea don't people understand?! Being happy with a West Ham win isn't an option! I suppose the same people want a Spurs win as well do they so we end up back in 7th?!! I don't get it. There's six games left! We ain't catching Leicester and United in that time. Hoping for Chelsea, W Ham and Spurs defeats is the only way. Get it?

It looks like WH are going to easily win currently and if they do and the Mancs beat Spurs then the total split between the four closest teams will be 4 points. Over 7 games with others playing each other it's more than possible. If we don't win enough games it's on us but the suggestion that it's a two team race is not correct.

Red_Rich · « **Reply #3822 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:15:37 pm »

Quote from: newterp on April 11, 2021, 03:11:04 pm

There are 7 games left, right?

Ok then 7!

JackWard33 · « **Reply #3823 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:16:19 pm »

Quote from: Red_Rich on April 11, 2021, 03:08:10 pm

Which part of 4th being a straight shootout between us and Chelsea don't people understand?! Being happy with a West Ham win isn't an option! I suppose the same people want a Spurs win as well do they so we end up back in 7th?!! I don't get it. There's six games left! We ain't catching Leicester and United in that time. Hoping for Chelsea, W Ham and Spurs defeats is the only way. Get it?

We’re 4 points behind Leicester with 7 to play and they’re playing like arse and we have the easier fixtures
It’s a coin flip right now as to who finishes higher between us and them imo

Red_Rich · « **Reply #3824 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:16:54 pm »

Quote from: DTRed on April 11, 2021, 03:14:45 pm

It looks like WH are going to easily win currently and if they do and the Mancs beat Spurs then the total split between the four closest teams will be 4 points. Over 7 games with others playing each other it's more than possible. If we don't win enough games it's on us but the suggestion that it's a two team race is not correct.

Ok, true enough. But I bet you 75% of our fans want United to lose today?

killer-heels · « **Reply #3825 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:17:00 pm »

Quote from: Red_Rich on April 11, 2021, 03:15:37 pm

Ok then 7!

If we can get 5 wins out of the last 7 then we can catch Leicester.

If we don’t then we are not even catching Chelsea.

Red_Rich · « **Reply #3826 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:18:42 pm »

Quote from: JackWard33 on April 11, 2021, 03:16:19 pm

We’re 4 points behind Leicester with 7 to play and they’re playing like arse and we have the easier fixtures
It’s a coin flip right now as to who finishes higher between us and them imo

TBF watching Leicester here, I#m all on board with them collapsing again like last year. They're bottling it big time. Today reminds me of their game away at Bournemouth last season 1-4.

UntouchableLuis · « **Reply #3827 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:19:39 pm »

We absolutely need a United win later. No chance anyone catches them.

West Ham look very good and other than Chelsea their fixtures are kind. Everton may roll over for them if they think it might mean they get 4th ahead of us.

Leicester and Chelsea have the toughest fixtures. I reckon Leicester will miss out on top 4.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #3828 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:20:41 pm »

Look at Leicester's fixtures and compare it to West Ham. They're bound to drop more points than West Ham, based on their form at the moment.

buttersstotch · « **Reply #3829 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:27:38 pm »

Someone a few posts up said it perfectly - we just need to concentrate on ourselves.

West Ham, Everton, Leicester and Spurs will all drop points. Even United are capable of dropping points, although I suspect they are too far away to be dragged back in. A few of them also have to play each other too. We're in a good position, just got to win as many games as we can and see where we are at. I do think we might have to Old Trafford and get a result, but we can do that.

Probably going to go down to the last game of the season, let's just keep on going and see where we're at in May.

DTRed · « **Reply #3830 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:38:34 pm »

Quote from: Red_Rich on April 11, 2021, 03:16:54 pm

Ok, true enough. But I bet you 75% of our fans want United to lose today?

United are winning feck all as they aren't catching City and it's likely that nobody will catch them for second either. Our fans don't want a Spurs win today. In the grand scheme of things it would mean nothing to the Mancs in regards to catching City and to welcome our challenge becoming more difficult by adding Spurs into the mix because of rivalry is a bit Toffee like.

67CherryRed · « **Reply #3831 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:40:59 pm »

Quote from: UntouchableLuis on April 11, 2021, 03:19:39 pm

West Ham look very good and other than Chelsea their fixtures are kind. Everton may roll over for them if they think it might mean they get 4th ahead of us.

I really don't understand comments like this at all, they're professionals, not a team of fans with an agenda.

Fromola · « **Reply #3832 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:42:39 pm »

Quote from: 67CherryRed on April 11, 2021, 03:40:59 pm

I really don't understand comments like this at all, they're professionals, not a team of fans with an agenda.

Everton are in the mix themselves (above us if they win their games in hand) so they aren't going to slack off anyway.

Red_Mist · « **Reply #3833 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:44:37 pm »

Quote from: Red_Rich on April 11, 2021, 03:16:54 pm

Ok, true enough. But I bet you 75% of our fans want United to lose today?

Why would they? I reckon almost everyone wants them to win.

Fromola · « **Reply #3834 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:45:29 pm »

Quote from: buttersstotch on April 11, 2021, 03:27:38 pm

Someone a few posts up said it perfectly - we just need to concentrate on ourselves.

West Ham, Everton, Leicester and Spurs will all drop points. Even United are capable of dropping points, although I suspect they are too far away to be dragged back in. A few of them also have to play each other too. We're in a good position, just got to win as many games as we can and see where we are at. I do think we might have to Old Trafford and get a result, but we can do that.

Probably going to go down to the last game of the season, let's just keep on going and see where we're at in May.

Obviously our margin for error is determined by other results, but we need to be winning 5 or 6 of our last 7 realistically. We just need to put the wins together.

DelTrotter · « **Reply #3835 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:45:42 pm »

Quote from: 67CherryRed on April 11, 2021, 03:40:59 pm

I really don't understand comments like this at all, they're professionals, not a team of fans with an agenda.

Don't look particularly professional in derbies, if fans feelings has no impact why do they try and break legs in every derby?

PeterTheRed ... · « **Reply #3836 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:48:20 pm »

Quote from: Red_Rich on April 11, 2021, 03:08:10 pm

Which part of 4th being a straight shootout between us and Chelsea don't people understand?! Being happy with a West Ham win isn't an option! I suppose the same people want a Spurs win as well do they so we end up back in 7th?!! I don't get it. There's six games left! We ain't catching Leicester and United in that time. Hoping for Chelsea, W Ham and Spurs defeats is the only way. Get it?

We are very much in the race for the 3rd spot. A West Ham win today suits us ...

Quote from: PeterTheRed on April 11, 2021, 12:08:54 am

Leicester (56)

West Ham (a)
WBA (h)
Crystal Palace (h)
Southampton (a)
Newcastle (h)
Man Utd (a)
Chelsea (a)
Tottenham (h)

Chelsea (54)

Brighton (h)
West Ham (a)
Fulham (h)
Man City (a)
Arsenal (h)
Leicester (h)
Aston Villa (a)

LFC (52)

Leeds (a)
Newcastle (h)
Man Utd (a)
Southampton (h)
WBA (a)
Burnley (a)
Crystal Palace (h)

West Ham (52)

Leicester (h)
Newcastle (a)
Chelsea (h)
Burnley (a)
Everton (h)
Brighton (a)
WBA (a)
Southampton (h)

Tottenham (49)

Man Utd (h)
Everton (a)
Southampton (h)
Sheffield Utd (h)
Leeds (a)
Wolves (h)
Aston Villa (h)
Leicester (a)

Everton (47)

Brighton (a)
Tottenham (h)
Arsenal (a)
Aston Villa (h)
West Ham (a)
Sheffield Utd (h)
Wolves (h)
Man City (a)
Aston Villa (a) postponed fixture

Based on that, even the race for the 3rd spot is wide open, not only the race for the 4th spot. We will see how it goes ...

Fromola · « **Reply #3837 on:** April 11, 2021, 03:49:19 pm »

Quote from: DelTrotter on April 11, 2021, 03:45:42 pm

Don't look particularly professional in derbies, if fans feelings has no impact why do they try and break legs in every derby?

Whenever we've been in a title race with City they've rolled over for them and then been all dogs of war against us. Difference was they had fuck all to play for. Finishing above the red shite is worth a trophy for them.

Red_Rich · « **Reply #3838 on:** April 11, 2021, 04:11:10 pm »

Not enough respect being paid to West Ham's chances of top 4.

Apart from Chelsea they have very winnable games against teams low down the table.

It's OK wanting Leicester to drop down but I think that place could easily be West Ham's when you look at their fixtures.

I personally would have preferred a Leicester win today and let West Ham, Chelsea and ourselves battle it out for 4th.

PaddyPaned · « **Reply #3839 on:** April 11, 2021, 04:12:56 pm »

Quote from: Red_Rich on April 11, 2021, 03:16:54 pm

Ok, true enough. But I bet you 75% of our fans want United to lose today?

United will not catch City and Spurs are one of our rivals for top 4. Logic dictates that a Utd win would be a good result for us today. Should want that to happen. I’ll take a draw.