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What is RAWK?
« on: May 7, 2012, 08:18:09 pm »
Looking at the feedback threads after the cup final there are perhaps some newer users who don't really understand how RAWK works. So I thought I would try to first offer an explanation and then ask for your feedback on where you think we are getting it right and, more importantly, where you think we are getting it wrong.

I guess the post the triggered this explanation was a sarcastic "What do you think this is, a discussion forum?"
Well it clearly is a discussion forum but that is only part of the story. It should be a place to read good writing about Liverpool FC, it should encourage good writers to submit articles knowing that they will be read and they'll get intelligent feedback and encouragement. I am hugely proud of the lads who have cut their teeth on here and gone on to make a living writing about LFC.

In order to try and facilitate that then part of our role as moderators is editorial, sorting the wheat from the chaff. It is the reason that threads get locked or merged.

I think for a while, and for a number of reasons, we have neglected that editorial role.  For which we should apologise, particularly to all those writers who have written great stuff that has been swamped in the sea of shite. We are trying to sort it out though, we've brought in Royhendo as a new editor and we're actively trying to revitalise the new footy writing on the site.

So. How would you do that? What are your bugbears with our moderation? How can we ensure that the cream floats to the top? What are we doing now that is stopping that happening. Fire away. 
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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #1 on: May 7, 2012, 08:20:23 pm »
Editorial role.... That makes a huge amount of sense and is actually very important and probably almost totally ignored by the average Joe
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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #2 on: May 7, 2012, 08:29:13 pm »
You're all too fucking serious, the lot of you. Relax, we don't really matter.

Oh, and we should have an in's and out's topic, stickied.







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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #3 on: May 7, 2012, 08:31:54 pm »
PS. Thats aimed at everyone, not just you miserable bastards that run the place. ;)
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« Reply #4 on: May 7, 2012, 08:32:58 pm »
You're all too fucking serious, the lot of you. Relax, we don't really matter.

Oh, and we should have an in's and out's topic, stickied.

In: Serious contemplation of how to improve the site.

Out: stumbling on as we are

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #5 on: May 7, 2012, 08:36:23 pm »
I think some topics being closed are wrong.

It seems you can't discuss some important issues at the club, such as the future of Dalglish, Carroll / Downing being good enough, Benitez, potential new players... amongst other things.

Having said all that, there is some brilliant posters on here and I enjoy debating with people about issues regarding our club.  I don't often agree with some people and vice versa, but we all have opinions, strong ones, because we care so much about the club... and we should never forget that we are all on the same side and want the same thing - for LFC to be successful.

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #6 on: May 7, 2012, 08:38:14 pm »
good post VDM.

As i see it, there are a lot of great comments added to most of the threads, but they do indeed get swamped amongst the clutter. People quote great posts & applaud them, but 3-4 pages later and they disappear. Royhendo does do a decent job of copying these posts that he does find an posts them into his own thread. But i guess he will miss a lot, i mean he can't read everything. But it's great to see Roy get this position, he will make a quality editor.

Stealing an idea from social media, could we vote up quality posts?
I'm not sure how that would affect the post, but perhaps they could be moved to the beginning of the thread, or that with enough votes are displayed a different colour. maybe the thread themselves can be promoted with enough thumbs up.

I guess we are limited by plugins to make a technical change. But i would love to see the many quality posts more visible.

I suppose rubbish knee jerk posts can be voted down, and posting privileged reduced.

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #7 on: May 7, 2012, 08:39:21 pm »
While this sounds sad, is there any way that there could be a 'like' dislike thing going for posts. Sometimes I see really interesting / funny posts that I would recommend but all you can do is quote the quote the post then put either the laughing smiley or put 'this'. Ones with most 'liked' can then be put in a separate folder etc. Posters who get disliked regularly can go in a folder of shame. Maybe this way quality posters will have their stuff read as closely as the prolific ones who don't actually have anything decent to say, just lots of it.

Also, one negative I have noticed creeping in is that certain posters seem to get away with absolute murder, calling people c**** and so on and so forth regularly, especially if they are speaking to someone who has the gall to go against status quo. I enjoy the debates, it someone wants a certain thing to happen at the club then the pros and cons should be debated. There are too many times I see decent, well argued posts made only for the poster to be pointlessly abused without any reason given as to why they are wrong.

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #8 on: May 7, 2012, 08:39:38 pm »
Threads for specific players, manager, coach's etc, let people blow off steam and make twat's of themselves, if they go to far you can swing the ban hammer.
If people derail threads, swing the ban hammer.
Put the threads in 'general' mate, you'd have half a dozen 'carcrash' threads, but it would keep the majority of the board clean.
I often read threads for enjoyment only, some I'm not informed or eloquent enough to comment on, but often they degenerate into Kenny, Carra, Gerrard, bashing threads, it's annoying, more ruthlessness in 'decent' threads, more leniency in certain threads.
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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #9 on: May 7, 2012, 08:44:15 pm »
To be honest I don't think there is much wrong with how you are doing things, although I think it could be a bit more relaxed.  Does it really matter if there is a thread now about what players we would like brought in to the club rather than wait for the Summer for example?  Stuff like that.

The fact we couldn't have an in game thread used to drive me mad, but now I am glad we don't - there is enough after game discussion pulling everyone to bits never mind an in game version too.

I went onto the Official site forum earlier and I think the way this is managed is brilliant compared to that.  A thread about who our next manager should be?  What the hell is that all about!

Overall, I like the fact you have a firm approach to topics, debate and what is and is not acceptable.

Right, that's enough kiss-arsing from me :)

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #10 on: May 7, 2012, 08:44:51 pm »
Exactly, see my post, lets have a thread in general where people can 'vent'. Keep the board clean.


Seems a good idea.

Once thread where people can speculate on new players / signings.

Once thread where people can 'vent' about anything be it the manager, players etc.

Then the rest of the forum should be clean and only have constructive criticism and valid points.

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« Reply #11 on: May 7, 2012, 08:46:12 pm »
Also, one negative I have noticed creeping in is that certain posters seem to get away with absolute murder, calling people c**** and so on and so forth regularly, especially if they are speaking to someone who has the gall to go against status quo. I enjoy the debates, it someone wants a certain thing to happen at the club then the pros and cons should be debated. There are too many times I see decent, well argued posts made only for the poster to be pointlessly abused without any reason given as to why they are wrong.

Agree with that. I think certain posters get away with blatant abuse because the mods seem to agree with their views.

(There is a banning amnesty for the things I say in this thread right? ;))

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #12 on: May 7, 2012, 08:47:16 pm »
The problem with voting is that it accelerates the formation of cliques and suppresses dissenting voices that are often the most informative and challenging.

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #13 on: May 7, 2012, 08:47:41 pm »
or that with enough votes are displayed a different colour

That'd be good. I'm not sure voting down would work particularly well, but deffo voting up.
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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #14 on: May 7, 2012, 08:50:01 pm »
Exactly, see my post, lets have a thread in general where people can 'vent'. Keep the board clean.


That'd help, as I avoid RAWK like the plague in the couple of days following a particularly gutting defeat, like Saturday (except when I was a couple of beer's gone). Almost all threads just turn into attacks. I used to love reading the likes of Paul Tomkins who perhaps tinged with a bit of optimism or red tinted glasses, would take everything into account and put together a fair post discussing it all.
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« Reply #15 on: May 7, 2012, 08:50:01 pm »
Exactly, see my post, lets have a thread in general where people can 'vent'. Keep the board clean.


There was but they both got locked last year sometime.

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #16 on: May 7, 2012, 08:50:27 pm »
It is not the thing itself but the manner of the thing. Therein lieth the problem.

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I disagree.i have seen a few overreactions from mods over a few simple points.topics closed easily due to the subject may be percieved as inflamatory even before the discussion reaches that stage.

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« Reply #17 on: May 7, 2012, 08:51:11 pm »
Personally, I would love to have something like the "level three" thread as a constant part of the forum where it´s possible to discuss the football side of the club only, every aspects of it, regardless of the "importance" or popularity of players, without having to think of avoiding views just because of the personal abuse it would cause.

There are a lot of great writers on the club itself, who know everything on the history and tradition of LFC which is just great to read and an important part of the forum and I love to read their stuff. But me, I cannot contribute anything like this and it´s sometimes not so easy for an OOT to stick to the football only around here,  I think things get sometimes mixed up and cause some negative tension without any need for it really. We all love LFC and that´s what it´s all about and why we are coming in here regulary to contribute..

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« Reply #18 on: May 7, 2012, 08:52:46 pm »
Seems a good idea.

Once thread where people can speculate on new players / signings.

Once thread where people can 'vent' about anything be it the manager, players etc.

Then the rest of the forum should be clean and only have constructive criticism and valid points.

Would the problem with this then not be that it breeds people to outdo each other with how much they hate a certain player.
Example,
Poster 1 " I hate downing, he's a coward"
Poster 2 " I f***ing hate him too, I hope he breaks his legs"
Poster 3 " I double f***ing hate him, I wish he was dead"

And then it goes from there. It's difficult though because I understand the need for people to go mad sometimes

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« Reply #19 on: May 7, 2012, 08:53:09 pm »
First of all, you all do a great job, considering you do it out of the goodness of your hearts and all that. Agree with what was said above, some threads are binned far too easily, for example the Bargain Hunters thread in GF&S, what harm did that thread staying open doing? Yes it was a teensy bit transfer thread-ish but is that a terrible thing? It wasn't your football manager-esque 'OMG we shud by Higuaiain and Hazzud and Cavarnee. Carol is so shite lolz.' It was genuine, football lovers talking about players they like and feel maybe have been overlooked. I loved reading it anyway, fascinating amount of insight on players in less watched leagues. Also, my custom title.  >:(
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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #20 on: May 7, 2012, 08:53:34 pm »
I disagree.i have seen a few overreactions from mods over a few simple points.topics closed easily due to the subject may be percieved as inflamatory even before the discussion reaches that stage.
No room for "Just In Time Moderation" then? How can you assess it is an overreaction? Surely that is as (potentially) subjective as any perception of the reasons for locking is (potentially) subjective? Some specific examples might help your case so that we can, with the benefit of hindsight, assess if any recent locks were overreactive or correctly pre-emptive.
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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #21 on: May 7, 2012, 08:54:52 pm »
The problem with voting is that it accelerates the formation of cliques and suppresses dissenting voices that are often the most informative and challenging.

I agree with this. Sometimes the lone voice appears to be talking rubbish but on reflection sometimes a great post emerges which would be shouted down by the majority. I'd rather see some quality editing rather than group democracy.
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« Reply #22 on: May 7, 2012, 08:55:07 pm »
Not much wrong some people repeating posts and attacking posters on twitter is quite cowardly though maybe we need to report stuff said offsite relating to posters and posts on the site! Other than that some intense discussions some laughs , some irate people but mainly we all should want the same thing and great people in here!
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« Reply #23 on: May 7, 2012, 08:55:09 pm »
Would the problem with this then not be that it breeds people to outdo each other with how much they hate a certain player.
Example,
Poster 1 " I hate downing, he's a coward"
Poster 2 " I f***ing hate him too, I hope he breaks his legs"
Poster 3 " I double f***ing hate him, I wish he was dead"

And then it goes from there. It's difficult though because I understand the need for people to go mad sometimes

Whocares, it that 1 thread anything can happen.

The rest of the forum can then be clean and a more reasoned, constructive and balanced place.

If poeple need to vent, they go to that thread. 

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« Reply #24 on: May 7, 2012, 08:55:56 pm »
There was but they both got locked last year sometime.

That's the problem, don't lock them, let people rant, but keep it in 'general'.
People know what's acceptable and what's not, if they overstep them mark the a 7 day cooling off period.
EVERY thread seems to be derailed at some point, and it's annoying.
I don't want someone being derided because the want Rafa back, or saying Carra is shit, or whatever is the current trend, UNLESS it's done maliciously, or without thought/reason.
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« Reply #25 on: May 7, 2012, 08:56:43 pm »
No room for "Just In Time Moderation" then? How can you assess it is an overreaction? Surely that is as (potentially) subjective as any perception of the reasons for locking is (potentially) subjective? Some specific examples might help your case so that we can, with the benefit of hindsight, assess if any recent locks were overreactive or correctly pre-emptive.

Would it not be an idea to temporarily lock  thread, but then allow users to vote whether it should be re-opened again?

I'm not talking about the transfer rumour threads, the shite that post goal.com as an OP ect, but ones like the bargain hunters thread which had some decent discussion, or the 'is it a bad season' thread.

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« Reply #26 on: May 7, 2012, 08:57:35 pm »
People get into heated arguments, that just happens. Don't lock a whole thread because some people are arguing too angrily, can't you just stop some people from posting for a bit? And also I feel RAWK is partly good for venting about how bad things are going. I think people should be able to express themselves and their dissatisfaction with how things are going at the club. Kenny is a hero, but we should still be allowed to criticize him. When people get angry in a post match thread, I'd let them. We're just a passionate bunch. We love our club to bits, compared to some other fans of clubs that shall go unnamed (Chelsea, Mancs etc...). People should also try and remain civil though.

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« Reply #27 on: May 7, 2012, 08:59:42 pm »
Well comparisons are inevitable, they have been our two most recent managers.

Nothing wrong with comparing the two and discussing what both did right or wrong IMO.

This approach would be ok but it doesn't happen like that unfortunately.  Someone will come steaming in with a 'kenny out, Rafa in' type post, maybe a bit more subtle than that obviously, which then provokes extremes others, and then a slanging session ensues.

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« Reply #28 on: May 7, 2012, 09:00:49 pm »
I appreciate the question. I've been on the site for many years - it's one of my daily four, that is, the four sites I check regularly throughout the day. Two of the four are my email accounts, which means that RAWK is one of two non-email sites I deem essential. But I feel that's becoming an increasingly symbolic gesture rather than a meaningful one.

I've been on here throughout the arguments over Houllier, Benitez, and G&H, and there were many good discussions in those days. Maybe the forum users are becoming younger, maybe a difficult season makes us tetchier, but I feel the good discussions are thinning out. Increasingly, the site is governed by something akin to Godwin's Law. I've felt it was coming, but for me the hysterical elastic limit was reached when we drew Everton in the semis this year and a poster remarked that it was like the good old days again, 'Merseyside!' he exclaimed. He was pulled to bits immediately. Why? It made absolutely no sense whatsoever. I loved the eighties, when football was ruled by the city of Liverpool. I joined my friends when Everton did the cup homecoming and they joined me when the Liverpool bus went past Stanley Park with Brucie hodling the European Cup. That was something we used to do. We were a united city. But the discussion turned into an online version of Lord of the Flies and went completely unchecked. Why? What is the editorial decision process that allows a mob to silence a perfectly reasonable comment?

David Foster Wallace argued that the internet needs more gatekeepers, and I feel that's lacking at RAWK. We can get page after page of 'is right' or smiley faces or posts that actually carry no comment at all but simply repeat somebody else's, or any of that empty bullshit that helps push up a forum users comment count, but a comment that expresses a divergent value is wiped out. There is nothing gentlemanly about it, it feels like walking past a gang of hoodies outside Threshers. It's neanderthal, aggressive, and endlessly predictable.

Conversely, I feel that topics that people obviously have big opinions about are too frequently dismissed out of hand. It's good that transfer topics are closed outside of the transfer window, but there are bigger things that should be open to discussion this year rather than endless pages of team formations. It should be possible to discuss whether Kenny is up to the job. It should be possible to say 'actually, I think what Suarez said was racist and he should never have said it' - which, for the record, I do believe. It should be possible to accommodate a little bit of hand-wringing, because that's the nature of being a football fan and certainly the nature of supporting Liverpool and it should be possible to discern which comments are worthy of reflection. But too often the RAWK editorial process is a blythe one, where maybe it could be more, well, editorial. Cutting out rather than closing off. There should be more room for comment and opinion and less room for the empty-vesseling that too often happens here.
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« Reply #29 on: May 7, 2012, 09:01:38 pm »
Also the idea of voting on posts doesn't work on the main .tv one they had more rows between them about rep points for their little boxes than the contents of the posts
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« Reply #30 on: May 7, 2012, 09:03:37 pm »
Whocares, it that 1 thread anything can happen.

The rest of the forum can then be clean and a more reasoned, constructive and balanced place.

If poeple need to vent, they go to that thread.

There is also common decency, some players drive me mad but you cannot condone stupid, outrageous comments about them. They are human beings with families and friends who probably visit this site. How would you like it if your son played for the club, you came on here, a site for his clubs supporters, to see what people thought and just because he hadn't had a great game some nob was saying that they hope he gets murdered. There would still need to be some moderation.

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« Reply #31 on: May 7, 2012, 09:04:28 pm »
That'd help, as I avoid RAWK like the plague in the couple of days following a particularly gutting defeat, like Saturday (except when I was a couple of beer's gone). Almost all threads just turn into attacks. I used to love reading the likes of Paul Tomkins who perhaps tinged with a bit of optimism or red tinted glasses, would take everything into account and put together a fair post discussing it all.

I am not sure how this would work.  What would you have - one post game thread for people who want to get angry about it all, and another one where a more measured debate could happen.

I know what you mean about avoiding RAWK post defeat as sometimes it is unbearable frankly, am just not sure how it would work, or if those who want to f and blind, call for Managers head, say player a, b, or c is crap etc should be given a free reign to do so.
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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #32 on: May 7, 2012, 09:05:40 pm »
There is also common decency, some players drive me mad but you cannot condone stupid, outrageous comments about them. They are human beings with families and friends who probably visit this site. How would you like it if your son played for the club, you came on here, a site for his clubs supporters, to see what people thought and just because he hadn't had a great game some nob was saying that they hope he gets murdered. There would still need to be some moderation.

Oh I agree, if people over step the mark, they should rightly be banned, not the thread being locked for everyone else because one or two people can't stick to rules or start abusing our players.

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #33 on: May 7, 2012, 09:05:58 pm »
So. How would you do that? What are your bugbears with our moderation? How can we ensure that the cream floats to the top? What are we doing now that is stopping that happening. Fire away.

If it's actually cream, it'll rise to the top by itself. If it's crap, people will ignore it. It has to be a natural process, otherwise it's really just somebody enforcing their views onto other people by way of deleting posts they don't agree with or those not aligned with their own view point.

I'm not saying personal abuse should be allowed, but anything with effort and thought should be allowed through. That's my thoughts.

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #34 on: May 7, 2012, 09:08:37 pm »
Some suggestions.

1. Mark some posts with an expiry date. For example the post game rants. Give them say two days then lock them (maybe you do this already).
2. It's ok to allow rants. People do get fed up and want to bitch. In a way that is what people think.......don't try to suppress people who want to air their views. Once again put a time limit and then lock them.
3. Quality topics that are quite technical and enlightening - put them into a special area where the posts must be well thought out (even if misguided) and delete any one liners or rubbish. I'm interested in why people think the club is going backwards or forwards. I wouldn't worry about "offending" players or manager as I doubt they read RAWK. If the criticism is backed up with a good argument then it's valid even if many people don't agree. Keep any personal comments out of these threads and deliver short bans for anyone who attacks the poster.
4. We had a great thread about old players that people may not have seen.....they were quality and I haven't seen them for a while. I think some people were invited to start a thread (I did a couple and they were fun).
5. Be careful about over moderating - just because you don't agree with somebody (maybe even very strongly) then don't jump in. If you see that the poster has a well thought out position then let it go.
6. For "serious" threads then add a "like" button which allows people to give a thumbs up but doesn't add noise to the thread.
7. Maybe have a closed thread where several people discuss a topic. Allow the rest of us to "like" any posts.
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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #35 on: May 7, 2012, 09:08:43 pm »
This approach would be ok but it doesn't happen like that unfortunately.  Someone will come steaming in with a 'kenny out, Rafa in' type post, maybe a bit more subtle than that obviously, which then provokes extremes others, and then a slanging session ensues.

I don't like any Liverpool fan undermining our manager calling for their head, particularly when it's such a great man as Kenny. That is out of order. But how do you educate those who are don't have that patience? closing the thread doesn't help.

I actually think the (*) threads helped in these circumstances, whether the mods felt this approach was to high maintenance or their effect eventually grew off, i don't know. But good debate should never be stifled by a few bad apples. Evaluating how our season has gone for example is good debate, it will rise good discussion over what's worked and what has failed, with some good  discussion on how we are to improve. Somebody bringing Rafa into that conversation shouldn't be allowed to spoil that possible good debate.

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #36 on: May 7, 2012, 09:08:53 pm »
Maybe have an unmoderated section where people can do what they want and a heavily moderated and edited section where the more thoughtful and informative posts can go, similar to the normal matchday threads vs roundtable threads but on a bigger scale?
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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #37 on: May 7, 2012, 09:09:19 pm »
I am not sure how this would work.  What would you have - one post game thread for people who want to get angry about it all, and another one where a more measured debate could happen.

I know what you mean about avoiding RAWK post defeat as sometimes it is unbearable frankly, am just not sure how it would work, or if those who want to f and blind, call for Managers head, say player a, b, or c is crap etc should be given a free reign to do so.
It's their right to have an opinion, just because its not as optimistic as yours, doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to make their point. Of course, people are clearly being over the line need to be punished.

For what it's worth, I don't have a problem with the way things are run, I think RAWK reflects the attitude of a very un-united fan base at the moment.

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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #38 on: May 7, 2012, 09:09:56 pm »
Whocares, it that 1 thread anything can happen.

The rest of the forum can then be clean and a more reasoned, constructive and balanced place.

If poeple need to vent, they go to that thread. 
I agree with Zeus- it would be a great idea to "separate the wheat from the chaff" as our host so elegantly put it.
This will avoid the sort of situation we're faced with now and yes- I am sometimes prone to a bit of inane rambling myself.. sorry :(

I hate to do this, but I have seen some forums- or fora- whatever tickles it, that for instance- restricts viewing or posting in certain threads to a certain amount of posts. I've also heard of a grace-period, where you cannot post too often. You have to wait for your turn- "you have to fight for your meal"- as a quote in a good zombie-movie once put it. Ypu're going to have to think before posting and by the gods- you'd better have something to say, else YOU lose.

This will restrict the rival fans and the newcomers to certain threads or a certain thread and we can avoid all this immature drivel that we've come to expect from time-to-time. Newcomers and rivals fans who offer good discussion and observation such TommyW, MagicHat, that United fan from the "arl arses" thread and all the regulars etc.. can of course be elevated.
Yes- this is prolly draconian I agree, but at the end of the day- it's for the good of the forum and it's more eloquent and intelligent posters of which I am not, if you're interested. Oh yeah- also- I'm not British, so a little militismo an oppression is not a biggie, if dished out in moderation, of course.
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Re: What is RAWK?
« Reply #39 on: May 7, 2012, 09:10:42 pm »
5. Be careful about over moderating - just because you don't agree with somebody (maybe even very strongly) then don't jump in. If you see that the poster has a well thought out position then let it go.
6. For "serious" threads then add a "like" button which allows people to give a thumbs up but doesn't add noise to the thread.

I 'like' this post. Allowing users to 'like' a post is a decent way of allowing a user-base to decide what they want to read; what they find relevant. Posts, not posters, that is.