Author Topic: Results Comparison Thread 2021-22 (Read 14922 times)

JP-65 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 3, 2021, 08:00:55 am »

Expected goals chart

BassTunedToRed · « **Reply #41 on:** October 3, 2021, 09:34:46 pm »

Performance against corresponding fixtures after match week seven.

JP-65 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 4, 2021, 12:32:45 pm »

Thnx Beez

Match 7 update:

JP-65 · « **Reply #43 on:** October 4, 2021, 12:36:56 pm »

The rest:

zabadoh · « **Reply #44 on:** October 18, 2021, 06:27:50 pm »

/u/DidiBombaxe made a classic results comparison table for this season so far:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/qa86wv/fixtures_and_gameweek_comparison_2122_week_8/

+7 points from last season!

JP-65 · « **Reply #45 on:** October 19, 2021, 12:27:35 pm »

Match 8 update:

JP-65 · « **Reply #46 on:** October 19, 2021, 12:33:05 pm »

The rest:

royhendo · « **Reply #47 on:** October 19, 2021, 03:23:14 pm »

Thanks again senor

JP-65 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 19, 2021, 03:42:43 pm »

Beez hasn't posted this, it was prior to last night's Arse vs Palace match

BassTunedToRed · « **Reply #49 on:** October 19, 2021, 05:21:21 pm »

As that game was also a draw last season, there isn't much to add to the table.

Liverpool's improvement continues to look incredible.

JP-65 · « **Reply #50 on:** October 24, 2021, 02:14:18 pm »

In 2019-20, our title winning season, we were 8 wins out of 8, drew with United in match 9

JP-65 · « **Reply #51 on:** October 25, 2021, 11:04:23 am »

Match 9 update:

JP-65 · « **Reply #52 on:** October 25, 2021, 11:07:25 am »

The rest:

JP-65 · « **Reply #53 on:** October 25, 2021, 01:27:19 pm »

Here's the classic Top 6 mini table:

United have a lot of pain to come

JP-65 · « **Reply #54 on:** October 25, 2021, 05:13:12 pm »

Rolling 18 match stats during Klopp era, attack has been strong for quite awhile now

c/o James Yorke @ statsbomb

JP-65 · « **Reply #55 on:** October 25, 2021, 05:22:50 pm »

Match 9 expected goals table

c/o experimental361

BassTunedToRed · « **Reply #56 on:** October 25, 2021, 05:25:59 pm »

Comparative fixtures: Week 9.

Six point swings at Arsenal and Brighton this week.

No extra points for Liverpool but one extra expected goal and three actual ones.

JP-65 · « **Reply #57 on:** October 25, 2021, 05:30:50 pm »

Quote from: BassTunedToRed on October 25, 2021, 05:25:59 pm

Comparative fixtures: Week 9.

Six point swings at Arsenal and Brighton this week.

No extra points for Liverpool but one extra expected goal and three actual ones.

Thnx Beez

JP-65 · « **Reply #58 on:** October 25, 2021, 05:33:38 pm »

Chelsea have got to move closer to their mean at some point, one would think

JP-65 · « **Reply #59 on:** November 1, 2021, 09:42:42 am »

Match 10 update:

JP-65 · « **Reply #60 on:** November 1, 2021, 09:47:01 am »

The rest:

JP-65 · « **Reply #61 on:** November 1, 2021, 09:53:45 am »

Chelsea are gathering points at a rate greater than the models would suggest, but....

with only 3 goals conceded in 10 matches, 1 to us in a draw, 1 to City in a loss, and 1 to Southampton

That degree of defensive solidity, and the ability to get a goal, suggests that they have a serious shout to win it this season.

Chelsea also, in the seasons past, seem to be able to avoid major spates of injuries....something we're not as resilient at.

BassTunedToRed · « **Reply #62 on:** November 1, 2021, 10:15:59 am »

My table for this week. There was a six goal swing at the Etihad and Liverpool gained a point but otherwise every other result was the same.

PoetryInMotion · « **Reply #63 on:** November 1, 2021, 10:31:04 am »

Quote from: JP-65 on November 1, 2021, 09:53:45 am

Chelsea are gathering points at a rate greater than the models would suggest, but....

with only 3 goals conceded in 10 matches, 1 to us in a draw, 1 to City in a loss, and 1 to Southampton

That degree of defensive solidity, and the ability to get a goal, suggests that they have a serious shout to win it this season.

Chelsea also, in the seasons past, seem to be able to avoid major spates of injuries....something we're not as resilient at.

Yes, but we have to also consider that Chelsea were behind us last season, and while they have gathered 5 points over last season with a quarter of the season gone, we have gathered 8 points over last season and are ahead of them in corresponding fixtures. Let's see how Chelsea respond in the games that were harder for them last season. While Chelsea have been good in both boxes, they don't look as sustainable as it may seem with their results so far this season. This title race is quite complicated and there is still a long way to go.

PoetryInMotion · « **Reply #64 on:** November 1, 2021, 10:38:05 am »

It shows how clueless are pundits and Spurs' ownership as well. Nuno didn't even get the time to play his way, plus he's got a 6 point improvement over corresponding fixtures? That's a big upturn and doesn't warrant a sack. Yes, they've struggled for performances but it's early days. What were they thinking?

DelTrotter · « **Reply #65 on:** November 1, 2021, 10:41:02 am »

Nah, he was a dreadful appointment, the bad decision was appointing him not sacking him. A supposed improvement on a few fixtures doesn't mean much when you're averaging 1.5 points per game and can't even get a shot on target let alone score a goal.

PoetryInMotion · « **Reply #66 on:** November 1, 2021, 10:44:25 am »

Quote from: DelTrotter on November 1, 2021, 10:41:02 am

Nah, he was a dreadful appointment, the bad decision was appointing him not sacking him. A supposed improvement on a few fixtures doesn't mean much when you're averaging 1.5 points per game and can't even get a shot on target let alone score a goal.

Disagree. Plenty of sides have at times not been able to hit the target over halves or in a game. You can't knee jerk and sack every time it happens. Improving in few games? A quarter of a season gone and they're up 6. Who knows, they may have ended up with a higher points total than last season? That's their level. They're not CL place contenders and if anyone expects them to, they are cuckoo land.

DelTrotter · « **Reply #67 on:** November 1, 2021, 10:54:34 am »

Quote from: PoetryInMotion on November 1, 2021, 10:44:25 am

Disagree. Plenty of sides have at times not been able to hit the target over halves or in a game. You can't knee jerk and sack every time it happens. Improving in few games? A quarter of a season gone and they're up 6. Who knows, they may have ended up with a higher points total than last season? That's their level. They're not CL place contenders and if anyone expects them to, they are cuckoo land.

They've been horrendous. All season and are actually flattered by their already shit points total, think you are reading way too much in to comparing results over different seasons, lots of things change in that time, transfers, managers etc. I don't feel particularly good about drawing at home to Brighton but perhaps I should be buzzing as it's a point gained on last season? Nah.

I don't rate their squad highly at all but with Kane and Son there's no reason they can't push 70 points and with how average Utd, Arsenal and Leicester are that might sneak 4th with a bit of luck for them. It's the right decision.

killer-heels · « **Reply #68 on:** November 1, 2021, 11:07:51 am »

Spurs have been awful and I don't think you can hold an improvement in corresponding fixtures as some sort of achievement, their points total flatters them. I understand looking at the numbers but thats being too wedded to it and not taking into account reality.

royhendo · « **Reply #69 on:** November 1, 2021, 11:34:37 am »

Ta JP. That's where I ended up at the weekend - Chelsea's bench thus far is delivering for them, and we'll be there or thereabouts, but you can't help but feel they're well placed to win it this season. That's not to concede by any means, but the adage still goes 'beat the dross and win the league' I guess.

Amazing to think that's possible while we're headed back to an all time peak in performance terms. We just have to manage leads the way we did when we won it, but we're not quite managing to.

https://twitter.com/DanKennett/status/1454810581492543489
https://twitter.com/DanKennett/status/1454811097089904641

Rolling 20 game points...

Goal difference...

JP-65 · « **Reply #70 on:** November 1, 2021, 11:49:41 am »

Quote from: royhendo on November 1, 2021, 11:34:37 am

Ta JP. That's where I ended up at the weekend - Chelsea's bench thus far is delivering for them, and we'll be there or thereabouts, but you can't help but feel they're well placed to win it this season. That's not to concede by any means, but the adage still goes 'beat the dross and win the league' I guess.

Amazing to think that's possible while we're headed back to an all time peak in performance terms. We just have to manage leads the way we did when we won it, but we're not quite managing to.

https://twitter.com/DanKennett/status/1454810581492543489
https://twitter.com/DanKennett/status/1454811097089904641

Rolling 20 game points...

Goal difference...

What could trip them up Roy is goals drying up.....they're getting them from "unexpected" players so far, which often is not sustainable.

royhendo · « **Reply #71 on:** November 1, 2021, 01:17:10 pm »

You have to hope so mate. We'll not be far off them whatever happens though - just gotta tighten up.

redk84 · « **Reply #72 on:** November 1, 2021, 01:50:25 pm »

4 draws in 10 games is not ideal.
However we have some tough fixtures out the way and can go on a run of wins
Chelsea look ominous because they will beat alot of the bad teams but hoping they have issues against the top teams

Still think City are the team to beat

JP-65 · « **Reply #73 on:** November 8, 2021, 01:47:22 pm »

Match 11 update:

JP-65 · « **Reply #74 on:** November 8, 2021, 01:49:12 pm »

The rest:

I may have to move Man Utd out of the Contenders grouping

JP-65 · « **Reply #75 on:** November 22, 2021, 10:16:29 am »

Match 12 update:

JP-65 · « **Reply #76 on:** November 22, 2021, 10:18:44 am »

The rest:

Leicester doesn't appear to be a top team this year

BassTunedToRed · « **Reply #77 on:** November 22, 2021, 03:20:15 pm »

Six point swings in the matches at Villa, Leicester and Wolves this weekend.

Considering Liverpool and Chelsea have made the same gains in goal difference and there's only one point difference, their xGD makes for interesting reading...

JP-65 · « **Reply #78 on:** November 29, 2021, 03:28:16 pm »

Match 13 update:

JP-65 · « **Reply #79 on:** November 29, 2021, 03:38:20 pm »

The rest: