Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[rodderzzz]

Death toll hits over 1k with over 42k cases

[aussie_ox]

Death toll hits over 1k with over 42k cases

Wish they would release statistics on how many of those deaths were people already in poor health.   If that's 1k deaths of perfectly healthy people then it is terrifying.

[rodderzzz]

Wish they would release statistics on how many of those deaths were people already in poor health.   If that's 1k deaths of perfectly healthy people then it is terrifying.

They’ve claimed it almost all people in poor health or previous conditions but then the stories of the doctor, and the international people who’ve died none of them seem to have been unhealthy before

[Mister Flip Flop]

Wish they would release statistics on how many of those deaths were people already in poor health.   If that's 1k deaths of perfectly healthy people then it is terrifying.

The doctor was in his 30's and perfectly healthy. Don't for a minute believe the 1000 dead figure myself.

[ToneLa]

Not only do we get daily newsletters in work about this but just had a half hour video on it.

"Any concerns speak to HR."

Umm.. I'm concerned you think I don't read the news

[Bob Sacamano]

QuickTake by Bloomberg (@QuickTake) Tweeted:
EARLIER: A person infected with the #coronavirus was mistakenly released from a hospital in San Diego.

The CDC says a labeling error caused the mix-up and the patient was sent back and placed in isolation after a day #CoronavirusOutbreak https://t.co/8eIhpvvGjy

When they realized they released the wrong guy...

https://media.giphy.com/media/eKZiqoTiQxrL7QLdyi/giphy.gif

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BBC news reporting 242 dead in China yesterday.  60,000 now infected apparently. 

[CraigDS]

BBC news reporting 242 dead in China yesterday.  60,000 now infected apparently.

Apparently down to an improved/new way of assessing the disease in the original source city, so a lot of cases have been reclassified.

[No666]

My daughter, son-in-law and 23-month granddaughter were travelling in SE Asia and now (finally!) are trying to get back early. Flights from the Philippines to Taiwan and Hong Kong cancelled. Swiss Air wouldn't change their flight from Hong Kong. Worried sick.

[killer-heels]

Confirmed case in London.

Stock up on loo roll and water. Lock all the doors. Shoot anyone who is on your driveway.

[CraigDS]

Confirmed case in London.

Stock up on loo roll and water. Lock all the doors. Shoot anyone who is on your driveway.

Time to build a wall just north of Runcorn & block up the tunnels.

[ToneLa]

Confirmed case in London.

Stock up on loo roll and water. Lock all the doors. Shoot anyone who is on your driveway.

Note to self; don't go down to London

 Done and done

[TSC]

Confirmed case in London.

Stock up on loo roll and water. Lock all the doors. Shoot anyone who is on your driveway.

Think I seen a news report on that earlier (assuming it’s same case) and apparently relates to someone who felt unwell after travelling back from China.  And promptly got an Uber to A&E where Medical staff effectively isolated the individual and stated no contact was made with other patients or staff.  Ok so far apparently.

Then the news report stated that Uber driver was ok because the journey to A&E only took 15 mins! wtf.  So I assume said driver carried on taxi driving.

[killer-heels]

Think I seen a news report on that earlier (assuming it’s same case) and apparently relates to someone who felt unwell after travelling back from China.  And promptly got an Uber to A&E where Medical staff effectively isolated the individual and stated no contact was made with other patients or staff.  Ok so far apparently.

Then the news report stated that Uber driver was ok because the journey to A&E only took 15 mins! wtf.  So I assume said driver carried on taxi driving.

Yep that was odd. Cannot pass in 15 minutes? Would like to know how that is the case.

[classycarra]

Yep that was odd. Cannot pass in 15 minutes? Would like to know how that is the case.

Not odd.

The Uber driver has little chance of contracting the infection because he was not with the woman long enough, Public Health England said. “As the journey was less than 15 minutes the driver did not have close sustained contact with the individual and is not considered high risk,” said Dr Rachel Thorn Heathcock, a PHE consultant.

Someone has to have had “close and sustained contact” with a carrier – defined as within two metres of them for at least 15 minutes – to be at risk, PHE added.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/13/london-coronavirus-patient-turned-up-hospital-uber-taxi

and

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/factsheets/Pages/novel-coronavirus-casual-contact.aspx
https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/infections/how-long-do-bacteria-and-viruses-live-outside-the-body/

[classycarra]

This message was left at Arrowe Park - sounds like PHE NHS England and Wirral Council and the locals did a great job



https://twitter.com/PHE_uk/status/1227916268075966464

[Mister Flip Flop]

FFS a bus conference. Can't think of a worse place for this person to have been than something to do with transportation

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-covid-19-patient-attended-london-conference-with-250-others-11933700

[classycarra]

FFS a bus conference. Can't think of a worse place for this person to have been than something to do with transportation

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-covid-19-patient-attended-london-conference-with-250-others-11933700

There are about a million worse places than an event with registered delegates, contact numbers and emails for almost all the people in attendance.

Key text from the link:

Dr Yimmy Chow, consultant in health protection at PHE, said: "One of our main priorities has been to identify any people who we think have been in close contact with confirmed cases of COVID-19 to provide public health advice, as they may be at slightly increased risk of catching the virus.

"While the degree of contact conference delegates may have had with the case is unlikely to have been significant, we have taken a precautionary approach and informed them of the situation."

[Caligula?]

Update. There have now been more than 67,000 registered cases of the virus, with most of them obviously being in mainland China. The death toll is over 1,520 and 4 deaths have occurred outside of China, with the first death in Europe having been registered just today in France (Chinese tourist on vacation).

There's been a spike in numbers because China changed how cases are tabulated have stopped lying and spreading misinformation and propaganda about the virus.

[classycarra]

There's been a spike in numbers because China changed how cases are tabulated have stopped lying and spreading misinformation and propaganda about the virus.

Sorry but while that might sound convincing it's just blatantly untrue.

If you're interested in why the spike occured, read here https://twitter.com/suilee/status/1227764679813951489

[Caligula?]

Sorry but while that might sound convincing it's just blatantly untrue.

If you're interested in why the spike occured, read here https://twitter.com/suilee/status/1227764679813951489

Sorry, I don't trust anything coming out of regimes who suppress everything that makes them look bad. The courageous whistleblower doctor - may he rest in peace - who tried to warn as many people as he could about it was detained and told not to spread any "misinformation" despite the fact that he knew exactly what was going on and was telling the truth.

[classycarra]

Sorry, I don't trust anything coming out of regimes who suppress everything that makes them look bad. The courageous whistleblower doctor - may he rest in peace - who tried to warn as many people as he could about it was detained and told not to spread any "misinformation" despite the fact that he knew exactly what was going on and was telling the truth.

Cool to be sceptical of the Chinese government, but you've used that to double down on some baseless conspiracy with absolutely no evidence - and in the meantime diminished reports from independent US journalists and the experience of international workers inside and outside of China working on this outbreak.

You sort of lose your moral superiority over China not being trustworthy when you make things up yourself in a counter-conspiracy

[Caligula?]

Cool to be sceptical of the Chinese government, but you've used that to double down on some baseless conspiracy with absolutely no evidence - and in the meantime diminished reports from independent US journalists and the experience of international workers inside and outside of China working on this outbreak.

You sort of lose your moral superiority over China not being trustworthy when you make things up yourself in a counter-conspiracy

Cool to be skeptical of the Chinese government? No, it's only natural. And what moral superiority do I lose for not trusting information coming from a regime based on lies, corruption and propaganda? Oh, because now they've suddenly decided to be open and transparent (they really haven't) and have invited in international workers in an effort to be more transparent? I still wouldn't trust a word coming out of there, no matter who it's from.

Do yourself a favour and read these articles.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/03/wuhan-coronavirus-coverup-lies-chinese-officials-xi-jinping/

https://qz.com/1801361/wuhan-virus-citizen-journalists-fang-bin-chen-qiushi-go-missing/

https://www.theweek.co.uk/105704/is-china-telling-the-truth-about-coronavirus

[classycarra]

Cool to be skeptical of the Chinese government? No, it's only natural.

Yeah that's what i meant. Maybe I should have said fine instead of cool.

And what moral superiority do I lose for not trusting information coming from a regime based on lies, corruption and propaganda?

Isn't it obvious? Your scepticism about their 'propaganda' has led to you making up your own propaganda? If you show yourself to be unconcerned with rationality and facts, then you are no better morally (albeit infinitely less powerful/harmful ) than the people you criticise.

Oh, because now they've suddenly decided to be open and transparent (they really haven't) and have invited in international workers in an effort to be more transparent?

Nope. Did you not read what I gave you? Noone claimed they decided to be 'open and transparent', that's you making something up again because you've misunderstood the explanation. Then lazy leapt towards a convenient sounding explanation rather than the truth.

Read that thread if you're generally interested. You might not understand some of the clinical aspects of it, but it explains why the number shot up without your lowest common denominator made up nonsense that the number shot up 'because... err.. propoganda'

[Andy82lfc]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51519687


Political division is a funny thing.  Started the article feeling very bad for the old couple stuck on the ship, then read he’s a ‘staunch Tory’ and wants to get treated by people who can ‘speak his language’, and end up thinking enjoy your quarantine.

[killer-heels]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51519687


Political division is a funny thing.  Started the article feeling very bad for the old couple stuck on the ship, then read he’s a ‘staunch Tory’ and wants to get treated by people who can ‘speak his language’, and end up thinking enjoy your quarantine.

Yep, he and his wife can fuck off.

[Jon2lfc]

Think I seen a news report on that earlier (assuming it’s same case) and apparently relates to someone who felt unwell after travelling back from China.  And promptly got an Uber to A&E where Medical staff effectively isolated the individual and stated no contact was made with other patients or staff.  Ok so far apparently.

Then the news report stated that Uber driver was ok because the journey to A&E only took 15 mins! wtf.  So I assume said driver carried on taxi driving.

But it's just a form of flu isn't it?

We don't do anything extraordinairy every pre-winter for the good old bwitish flu do we.

Apart from take the flu jab if you're in the vulnerable category.

Is there any element of xenophobia in all of this just because this particular flu came from China?

[Red-Soldier]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51519687


Political division is a funny thing.  Started the article feeling very bad for the old couple stuck on the ship, then read he’s a ‘staunch Tory’ and wants to get treated by people who can ‘speak his language’, and end up thinking enjoy your quarantine.

Of course they are gammons!

I've never been on a cruise and never will, but apparently, they are absolutely full of rabid Brexiters and Tories.  Fuck em.

[Jon2lfc]

Of course they are gammons!

I've never been on a cruise and never will, but apparently, they are absolutely full of rabid Brexiters and Tories.  Fuck em.

Haha the irony!
With those political leanings - stuck in the water off land on a boat!
And popping into other foreign lands every few days!

Come to think of it - maybe it's like nostalgia for when Britain ruled the waves! 

[elsewhere]

I suppose noone trusts the numbers given by the Chinese government, including most Chinese people in mainland China.
Virus soreads very fast though so maybe that's one of the major reasons number jump very quickly.

A question, can one gets healed after being infected then infected by the virus again in a few days?

[classycarra]

A question, can one gets healed after being infected then infected by the virus again in a few days?

Can't say with 100% certainty, but so far there's been no evidence of re-infection.

In other coronavirus infections usually people build immunity (source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/faq.html )

[rob1966]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51519687


Political division is a funny thing.  Started the article feeling very bad for the old couple stuck on the ship, then read he’s a ‘staunch Tory’ and wants to get treated by people who can ‘speak his language’, and end up thinking enjoy your quarantine.

Utter prick, hope your quarantine is hell you twat.

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But it's just a form of flu isn't it?

We don't do anything extraordinairy every pre-winter for the good old bwitish flu do we.

Apart from take the flu jab if you're in the vulnerable category.

Is there any element of xenophobia in all of this just because this particular flu came from China?

I'd assume the World Health Organisation isn't xenophobic

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1227248333871173632

https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/13-02-2020-remarks-by-dr-michael-ryan-executive-director-who-health-emergencies-programme-at-media-briefing-on-covid-19-on-13-february-2020

[Jon2lfc]

I'd assume the World Health Organisation isn't xenophobic

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1227248333871173632

https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/13-02-2020-remarks-by-dr-michael-ryan-executive-director-who-health-emergencies-programme-at-media-briefing-on-covid-19-on-13-february-2020

I don't keep up with WHO correspondence. But I'd assume they give equal coverage to every flu outbreak. We'd hope so.

I meant the media being xenophobic. It's what they do. They just need an excuse.

[rodderzzz]

They’re not being xenophobic (at least the unique attention it’s getting) because it’s not a regular flu outbreak.

[JC the Messiah]

But it's just a form of flu isn't it?

We don't do anything extraordinairy every pre-winter for the good old bwitish flu do we.

Apart from take the flu jab if you're in the vulnerable category.

Is there any element of xenophobia in all of this just because this particular flu came from China?

I know this wasn't the point you were making, but you shouldn't just get the flu jab if you're in the "vulnerable" category. If enough people get the jab, then herd immunity kicks in and a wider population are protected. Transmission rates drop, fewer people are infected, fewer people fall ill.

Also, I got flu a couple of years ago and it wasn't nice. 3 days in bed and I felt like I was dying. I'm pretty healthy generally, but I don't want to go through that again. Got the jab the last few years, £7 a pop at the pharmacy at Asda. Bargain.

[TSC]

I don't keep up with WHO correspondence. But I'd assume they give equal coverage to every flu outbreak. We'd hope so.

I meant the media being xenophobic. It's what they do. They just need an excuse.

If you read the links you’ll note this is not a ‘flu’ outbreak.

[PhilV]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51519687


Political division is a funny thing.  Started the article feeling very bad for the old couple stuck on the ship, then read he’s a ‘staunch Tory’ and wants to get treated by people who can ‘speak his language’, and end up thinking enjoy your quarantine.

Wow. Just reading that makes me dislike that man immensely. Fuck him.

[TSC]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51519687


Political division is a funny thing.  Started the article feeling very bad for the old couple stuck on the ship, then read he’s a ‘staunch Tory’ and wants to get treated by people who can ‘speak his language’, and end up thinking enjoy your quarantine.

Just been confirmed by bbc news those two are now infected and will be taken off the ship and transfer to a hospital. 

[killer-heels]

Just been confirmed by bbc news those two are now infected and will be taken off the ship and transfer to a hospital. 

They should have passed on the bat soup.