Author Topic: The Republic of Ireland Football Thread (Not A Home Nation) (Read 243165 times)

decosabute · « **Reply #3000 on:** March 28, 2021, 09:14:56 am »

Quote from: The North Bank on March 28, 2021, 07:56:23 am

Has to be the worst Irish team since before jack Charlton took over.
In the late 80s and 90s they had so much depth in talent. Players playing at top clubs. They got nothing now.

Worst team since at least the 1950s, maybe ever. Even in the 60s and 70s, when we weren't qualifying for anything, there were good players playing for big clubs: Brady, Giles, Heighway etc. Now there's simply no talent whatsoever. Our best player by an absolute mile is 33 year old Seamus Coleman, who's been no more than a decent PL player and whose career is winding down. That says it all. Even though circumstances have changed over the past 15 years with Irish players getting less of a chance in the upper reaches of English football, it's still an unbelievable paucity of talent and quality that's come through.

Ray K · « **Reply #3001 on:** March 28, 2021, 02:25:11 pm »

Quote from: decosabute on March 28, 2021, 09:14:56 am

Worst team since at least the 1950s, maybe ever. Even in the 60s and 70s, when we weren't qualifying for anything, there were good players playing for big clubs: Brady, Giles, Heighway etc. Now there's simply no talent whatsoever. Our best player by an absolute mile is 33 year old Seamus Coleman, who's been no more than a decent PL player and whose career is winding down. That says it all. Even though circumstances have changed over the past 15 years with Irish players getting less of a chance in the upper reaches of English football, it's still an unbelievable paucity of talent and quality that's come through.

My thoughts were it's probably the 1950s or 60s, but in the 50s we had Manchester United's captain as our captain. Seamus Coleman isn't winning Footballer of the Year either.

We might have had some decent players coming through over the past decade if the motherfucker in charge wasn't using the FAI as his own personal piggy bank.

Fromola · « **Reply #3002 on:** March 28, 2021, 03:51:58 pm »

Quote from: The North Bank on March 28, 2021, 07:56:23 am

Has to be the worst Irish team since before jack Charlton took over.
In the late 80s and 90s they had so much depth in talent. Players playing at top clubs. They got nothing now.

Looking at the squad it's only going to get worse. The current team aren't good enough but most of the players i've actually heard of - or at PL clubs - are around 30.

Shane Long 34, Randolph 33, Coleman 32, Clark 31, McClean 31, Kevin Long 30, Stevens 30, Mccarthy 30, Hendrick 29, Brady 29, Doherty 29, Egan 28, Christie 28.

Most of these are Premier League players (only 2 or 3 regular starters though and mostly just grafters rather than real quality). What's coming through beyond that? The odd talent like Kelleher or Connolly but nothing really striking.

They look set for a long period in the wilderness like Scotland have had. Scotland still not in great shakes but have genuine quality in Robertson, Tierney and Mcginn. Wales have also gone through a period of producing good quality players.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #3003 on:** March 28, 2021, 03:53:11 pm »

Che Adams too for Scotland so that’s four regular Premier League starters.

Fromola · « **Reply #3004 on:** March 28, 2021, 04:18:37 pm »

Quote from: BIG DICK NICK on March 28, 2021, 03:53:11 pm

Che Adams too for Scotland so that’s four regular Premier League starters.

Ryan Fraser, Stuart Armstrong and Mctominay as well who might not start all the time but play regularly in the Premier League. Mcburnie, Burke and Fleck also, albeit with Sheff United who'll go down. A few Rangers/Celtic players as well who are used to playing in Europe.

These are all players with a good age profile as well in their mid-20s, rather than all 30 odd.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #3005 on:** March 28, 2021, 04:19:49 pm »

Quote from: Fromola on March 28, 2021, 04:18:37 pm

Ryan Fraser, Stuart Armstrong and Mctominay as well who might not start all the time but play regularly in the Premier League. Mcburnie, Burke and Fleck also, albeit with Sheff United who'll go down. These are all players with a good age profile as well in their mid-20s, rather than all 30 odd.

Yeah true. They should get better.

Probably not the thread for optimism about another country.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #3006 on:** March 28, 2021, 04:21:50 pm »

It’s a little known fact that Natarajan was actually born in Ainsdale.

afc tukrish · « **Reply #3007 on:** March 28, 2021, 04:57:36 pm »

Quote from: BIG DICK NICK on March 28, 2021, 03:53:11 pm

Che Adams too for Scotland so that’s four regular Premier League starters.

All his teammates call him "Guevara..."

True story...

Fromola · « **Reply #3008 on:** March 28, 2021, 06:23:50 pm »

Quote from: BIG DICK NICK on March 28, 2021, 04:19:49 pm

Yeah true. They should get better.

Probably not the thread for optimism about another country.

No, but it just shows it goes in cycles for the smaller countries. Belgium were nowhere 10-15 years ago and are now ranked number 1 in the world and have had a real golden generation. Wales went generations without qualifying for anything. Scotland hadn't produced a high quality player in ages before Robbo emerged.

Ireland are set for some barren years though.

paulrazor · « **Reply #3009 on:** March 29, 2021, 12:13:02 am »

I dont see It getting better anytime soon

Grim.

That's the worst I've ever seen last night, to be played off put h by Luxembourg ffs

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #3010 on:** March 29, 2021, 12:24:20 am »

I reckon I'd get a game playing for the Republic.

Eeyore · « **Reply #3011 on:** March 29, 2021, 02:46:59 am »

I think the ROI started going downhill when they decided to go for an Irish manager and Irish players.

Lad · « **Reply #3012 on:** March 29, 2021, 08:27:18 am »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on March 29, 2021, 12:24:20 am

I reckon I'd get a game playing for the Republic.

Can you still get a game if you once owned an Irish Setter dog or is that just a myth . I'm sure that's how Mark Lawrenson first got selected for them 🤔

Fromola · « **Reply #3013 on:** March 29, 2021, 11:13:27 am »

Quote from: Al 666 on March 29, 2021, 02:46:59 am

I think the ROI started going downhill when they decided to go for an Irish manager and Irish players.

It's Wales that have been tapping into the diaspora better.

Sangria · « **Reply #3014 on:** March 29, 2021, 11:51:07 am »

Quote from: Al 666 on March 29, 2021, 02:46:59 am

I think the ROI started going downhill when they decided to go for an Irish manager and Irish players.

The Republic may push for unification, to gain access to Eastern Irelanders like John Aldridge and Mark Lawrenson.

sinnermichael · « **Reply #3015 on:** March 29, 2021, 03:18:26 pm »

Jack Charlton documentary on BBC2 at 9pm tonight.

Looks good.

DonkeyWan · « **Reply #3016 on:** March 30, 2021, 09:49:26 pm »

1-1, still winning

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #3017 on:** March 31, 2021, 08:46:14 pm »

Quote from: Lad on March 29, 2021, 08:27:18 am

Can you still get a game if you once owned an Irish Setter dog or is that just a myth . I'm sure that's how Mark Lawrenson first got selected for them 🤔

Lawro got selected because he looked like one. Not sure if he owned one, though.

fowlermagic · « **Reply #3018 on:** April 1, 2021, 09:51:47 am »

Lets see where Kenny is after the next couple of international breaks as no matter what he is trying to do, he has limited options to pick from and its hard to ever see Championship quality players out footballing sides that can field CL class players. I can see Kenny going back to the more experienced lads in his squad to turn the ship around as he wont last long if he cant devise some wins out of pool of players that were winning the odd match under previous management. O Neill did not exactly lit the world on fire when he came in and only won about 40% of his games but right now that looks like a Holy Grail % under Kenny.

paulrazor · « **Reply #3019 on:** May 4, 2021, 03:38:11 pm »

Some sad news

Alan mcloughlin has passed away

Ray K · « **Reply #3020 on:** May 4, 2021, 03:54:19 pm »

Oh no. He went through horrendous health problems.

Rest In Peace.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #3021 on:** May 4, 2021, 04:31:19 pm »

DangerScouse · « **Reply #3022 on:** May 4, 2021, 05:12:01 pm »

Awful news. RIP.

FlashGordon · « **Reply #3023 on:** May 4, 2021, 05:12:02 pm »

Sarge · « **Reply #3024 on:** May 4, 2021, 07:51:07 pm »

Quote from: The North Bank on March 28, 2021, 07:56:23 am

Has to be the worst Irish team since before jack Charlton took over.
In the late 80s and 90s they had so much depth in talent. Players playing at top clubs. They got nothing now.

We had a good side before Jack took over, well it was pretty much a large portion of the squad he had. We where extremely unluckjy to miss out on Espana 82' and France 84'.

Sarge · « **Reply #3025 on:** May 4, 2021, 07:52:35 pm »

Sad news that, has been very unwell for a time now.

RIP.

Dougle · « **Reply #3026 on:** May 4, 2021, 11:30:34 pm »

Oh boy, RIP Alan.

Daniel Cabbaggio · « **Reply #3027 on:** May 6, 2021, 10:06:59 am »

RIP Alan,

Very sad news

paulrazor · « **Reply #3028 on:** September 1, 2021, 09:18:19 am »

20 years today since Ireland beat Holland 1-0 at Landsdowne road with Jason McAteer scoring, had the best seat in the house for that.

need some of that magic tonight vs Portugal, not holding my breath

Ray K · « **Reply #3029 on:** September 1, 2021, 09:39:43 am »

Quote from: paulrazor on September 1, 2021, 09:18:19 am

20 years today since Ireland beat Holland 1-0 at Landsdowne road with Jason McAteer scoring, had the best seat in the house for that.

need some of that magic tonight vs Portugal, not holding my breath

I had a great seat for that too. About 50 yards away from the big screen at Slane. A magical day.

Still don't know how Keane got away without a booking on Overmars in the 1st minute. I know in England he always had one of those in the first ten minutes of a game, and one of those useless Jeff Winter type of refs would wag a finger and go 'now, now Roy, let's not be naughty today'. Whereas internationally, they're always bookings, if not red cards.
And as for Given and Staunton and van Nistelrooy incident...

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #3030 on:** September 1, 2021, 09:40:23 am »

I remember going apeshit at that. 20 years, bloody hell.

Sadly, there just doesn't seem to be any prospect of getting back to those heights in the near future.
I don't have the same enthusiasm for the side that I did back then, I couldn't even tell you who half the players in the squad play for.

paulrazor · « **Reply #3031 on:** September 1, 2021, 11:00:57 am »

Quote from: Ray K on September 1, 2021, 09:39:43 am

I had a great seat for that too. About 50 yards away from the big screen at Slane. A magical day.

Still don't know how Keane got away without a booking on Overmars in the 1st minute. I know in England he always had one of those in the first ten minutes of a game, and one of those useless Jeff Winter type of refs would wag a finger and go 'now, now Roy, let's not be naughty today'. Whereas internationally, they're always bookings, if not red cards.
And as for Given and Staunton and van Nistelrooy incident...

i know Ireland fans (myself included) would have you believe at times we were robbed down the years in big games, we fucking were!

but we definitely had all of it repaid that day, i watched the highlights back a few years and
1. how the fuck did we win
2. that was definitely a penalty

Keane was absolutely immense, no doubt in my mind one of the best midfielders and players in the world then

Tonyh8su · « **Reply #3032 on:** September 1, 2021, 08:01:18 pm »

Dirtbag cheat Fernandes diving again. And justice done with born and bred Mancunian Christian Ronaldo missing.

Sarge · « **Reply #3033 on:** September 1, 2021, 08:03:11 pm »

Quote from: a little break on September 1, 2021, 08:01:18 pm

Dirtbag cheat Fernandes diving again. And justice done with born and bred Mancunian Christian Ronaldo missing.

Was no peno and fanny should have got a red.

Mister Flip Flop · « **Reply #3034 on:** September 1, 2021, 08:11:01 pm »

A Fernandes dive for a peno, well i never. Ronaldo moving like a 48 year old.

rossipersempre · « **Reply #3035 on:** September 1, 2021, 08:16:46 pm »

You have to laugh really. Dress rehearsal for United fielding the Portuguese pair and wondering why the 3 points keep slipping through their fingers.

Sarge · « **Reply #3036 on:** September 1, 2021, 08:20:20 pm »

Bazunu has filled out a bit, jesus he is a big boy.

Sarge · « **Reply #3037 on:** September 1, 2021, 08:21:13 pm »

Christy is strolling about waiting for something to drop for him.

Daniel Cabbaggio · « **Reply #3038 on:** September 1, 2021, 09:19:07 pm »

this ref is on the fucking take

Tonyh8su · « **Reply #3039 on:** September 1, 2021, 09:43:55 pm »

Quote from: Daniel Cabbaggio on September 1, 2021, 09:19:07 pm

this ref is on the fucking take

Fucking robbery. He's just played on until Portugal scored. Shocking, they're knocking it around in midfield on 5 mins 20 seconds and he's not even looking at his watch. c*nt.