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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #200 on: July 25, 2018, 09:35:11 am »
So he's purposefully getting himself injured because he'd rather visit 'cool coffee shops' than play football for Liverpool? And he's successfully carried out this deception, fooling all the medical staff with made up injuries for years, until you came along and lifted the lid on this farce. Many thanks, I really didn't want to be had off again.

This is nearly up there with the innuendo that surrounded Clyne's back injury.

I'd like to know where the cool coffee shops are, just to keep an eye out for any malingering footballers.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #201 on: July 25, 2018, 01:06:19 pm »
I love Sturridge. I find the idea of him being fit this season and contributing more to the team even more exciting than seeing any of the new signings.
There are obvious issues with his body, but think if we manage him right it could work out. 20/30 minutes towards the end of games where we just need the lock unpicking. Love the idea of him playing slightly deeper almost in a Coutinho role – he would be fucking great at it. I really hope this works out for him.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #202 on: July 25, 2018, 01:28:20 pm »
The longer he trains and plays without injury, the better, as he’ll be more conditioned. If he comes through the pre-season unscathed, there’s a good chance he’ll be useful this season.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #203 on: July 25, 2018, 01:43:58 pm »
Less pressure on him being our main goal threat nowadays. If he can work his way in to the team and score a few early on in the season I can easily see him hitting double figures. His movement and positioning are second to none, something Keith has already exploited. Really excited by this resurgence.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #204 on: July 25, 2018, 02:16:41 pm »
He's such a likeable person, very happy to hear that he's enjoying himself and gets along with everyone very well.

Would love to see him fit for this season. He could definitely play a nice part this year.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #205 on: July 25, 2018, 02:17:07 pm »
This is nearly up there with the innuendo that surrounded Clyne's back injury.

I'd like to know where the cool coffee shops are, just to keep an eye out for any malingering footballers.
I've heard Central Perk has a good reputation.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #206 on: July 25, 2018, 02:17:25 pm »
Seen the same posts for the last 3 years if Sturridge could only stay fit!

Assuming Firmino is not ready for the start of the season, Danny playing a couple of competitive games in a row.......oh dear.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #207 on: July 25, 2018, 02:29:50 pm »
Seen the same posts for the last 3 years if Sturridge could only stay fit!

Assuming Firmino is not ready for the start of the season, Danny playing a couple of competitive games in a row.......oh dear.

It's a strange assumption being made by people. I've seen this same posts every year as well "if he stays fit he'll be great" etc. etc.

He'll be injured by the third game

He's getting older, not younger, his body is becoming even less reliant. He went to WBA and had a long injury there after playing only a couple minutes of a match.

It's a very dangerous game to be relying on him to stay fit

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #208 on: July 25, 2018, 02:39:39 pm »
It's a very dangerous game to be relying on him to stay fit
Point is we're not relying on him now, back in the day yes - when Suarez left we relied on Sturridge, he was injured and couldn't carry us. Now should Bobby get injured we can move Salah to the middle and Shaqiri in his place, alternatively play Solanke there. We have options now
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #209 on: July 25, 2018, 02:40:15 pm »
It's a strange assumption being made by people. I've seen this same posts every year as well "if he stays fit he'll be great" etc. etc.

He'll be injured by the third game

He's getting older, not younger, his body is becoming even less reliant. He went to WBA and had a long injury there after playing only a couple minutes of a match.

It's a very dangerous game to be relying on him to stay fit
I don't disagree, but we kept him fit for a loooooong time last season. A key potential point is that we are very careful in how we train players, and will very possibly have an individualised training schedule that takes into accounts his injury needs, and only using him in tactical roles or at times of the match where we needn't put his body under undue stress.

The chances of Pardew having given any thought to that sort of detail are, I suspect, somewhere between slim and 'when you're king, you can do what you want', the self-aggrandising prick.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #210 on: July 25, 2018, 02:44:09 pm »
Seen the same posts for the last 3 years if Sturridge could only stay fit!

Assuming Firmino is not ready for the start of the season, Danny playing a couple of competitive games in a row.......oh dear.

The difference this year is we have Shaquiri. He can play across the front 3, if Firmino is not fit we put Salah in the middle and Shaquiri on the wing, same with Salah just replace with Shaquiri.

I'm the first one to poo poo Daniels fitness, but I think this year is different as it's not just Solanke or Origi filling a spot. I don't think this year will be any different for Sturridge he'll start off bright in preseason and pick up a knock in the first couple of months and then be in and out of the team until the end of the season. Rinse repeat. I'll be pleasantly surprised if he plays more than half of the season, but again it's not just Solanke or Origi filling a position, so happy with that.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #211 on: July 25, 2018, 02:49:01 pm »
Point is we're not relying on him now, back in the day yes - when Suarez left we relied on Sturridge, he was injured and couldn't carry us. Now should Bobby get injured we can move Salah to the middle and Shaqiri in his place, alternatively play Solanke there. We have options now

It's true. Bags of options now.

I think we can almost use Sturridge in a specialist role.  20 minutes to go against a team who have parked the bus all game and we are running out of ideas - Get Dan out of his cotton wool casing and get him on against a physically and mentally exhausted defence to work some wizardry. Could be good for an extra 7-10 points a season.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #212 on: July 25, 2018, 02:50:14 pm »
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #213 on: July 25, 2018, 03:03:46 pm »
Seen the same posts for the last 3 years if Sturridge could only stay fit!

Assuming Firmino is not ready for the start of the season, Danny playing a couple of competitive games in a row.......oh dear.
why wouldn't he be though? he didn't play that much World Cup football
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #214 on: July 25, 2018, 03:11:54 pm »
Seen the same posts for the last 3 years if Sturridge could only stay fit!

Assuming Firmino is not ready for the start of the season, Danny playing a couple of competitive games in a row.......oh dear.

We can only give him a chance.

As for Firmino, I'm fairly sure that Klopp has said that he'll be ready for the first game.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #215 on: July 25, 2018, 03:41:49 pm »
Seen the same posts for the last 3 years if Sturridge could only stay fit!

Assuming Firmino is not ready for the start of the season, Danny playing a couple of competitive games in a row.......oh dear.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #216 on: July 25, 2018, 03:58:55 pm »
Ah fuck it.
I'll hope.
Ready to be hurt again.

Fit and firing Sturridge and we are title contenders.
Hurt me Daniel.

Can’t help hoping he’ll be fit but Kewell, Aurelio and Agger finished me in the wishing they weren’t always injured department. I’m not going to give him a second thought, then anything he does contribute will be a bonus in my eyes.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #217 on: July 25, 2018, 04:00:11 pm »
Thought I'd use my 5000th post to offer up a prayer to whichever footballing gods exist: please let Sturridge stay fit and please let him still be as good as he is in most of our heads.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #218 on: July 25, 2018, 04:21:29 pm »
Thought I'd use my 5000th post to offer up a prayer to whichever footballing gods exist: please let Sturridge stay fit and please let him still be as good as he is in most of our heads.
I second that.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #219 on: July 25, 2018, 04:44:08 pm »
I second that.

I'm not quite at 5000 but I'll offer that up and third it.

Edit - I can't add up. Make that my 6000th post.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #220 on: July 25, 2018, 05:02:35 pm »
It's true. Bags of options now.

I think we can almost use Sturridge in a specialist role.  20 minutes to go against a team who have parked the bus all game and we are running out of ideas - Get Dan out of his cotton wool casing and get him on against a physically and mentally exhausted defence to work some wizardry. Could be good for an extra 7-10 points a season.
He never seems to actually score in that role though, I'm looking more forward to seeing if we can deploy him in a spot similar to the one Solanke played in against Brighton at the end of last season. Imagine Studge making space for that front three and finishing off the chances they create.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #221 on: July 25, 2018, 05:18:58 pm »
He never seems to actually score in that role though, I'm looking more forward to seeing if we can deploy him in a spot similar to the one Solanke played in against Brighton at the end of last season. Imagine Studge making space for that front three and finishing off the chances they create.
Depending on which article you take, he's either 6th or 7th most proflific substitute goalscorer in PL history, with 15 goals at 107 minutes per goal (5th best of the top 10 scorers) as a sub. Not bad. Not Soljskaer/Giroud level, but pretty good. He's also very underrated in his vision to spot, and ability to execute, a deft pass around the area, and I'd expect should rank highly for creating chances, too.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #222 on: July 25, 2018, 05:21:01 pm »
Definitely deserves the chance ahead of ings, Origi and Solanke!
Surely he can bang in a couple for us, every little helps  ;D

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #223 on: July 25, 2018, 06:08:06 pm »
There are several aspects to take into consideration with regards to Sturridge;

1. He can't play at the intensity needed in Klopp's primary formation

2. He can't press from the front like Firmino

3. He gets injured a lot

Point 1
This is absolutely true, running around like a beast isn't in Sturridge's makeup but it should be noted that a lot of the time (heck, most of the time) the opposition will be defending deep and with have no ambition about attacking and will just wait for a set peice. In these instances pace and stamina are complete no issues and it's all about streching the opposition defenders and creating a yard of space for yourself. Sturridge is better at this than most. He has the ability to create something out of nothing for himself or someone else. Even though the rate has gone down, Sturridge nearly ALWAYS creates something and often it isn't capitalised on.

Point 2
He can't press like Firmino, that that knowledge and work around it. Sturridge is best when he is around the box and IMHO, even now there is no one better in our squad in the penalty area than Sturridge. Get players in and around him, get players to work the channels, gets to support him and he'll thrive. This doesn't have to be at the start of games it can be in the closing minutes of games. If you are calling Sturridge from the bench to save the the game and make a difference then it's clear 'plan a' has failed so there is no harm in changing the formation and playing to Sturridge's strength at that stage you have nothing to lose and it will also make you less predictable.

Point 3
No argument to counter this. It's simply a fact. So you can only manage his time to minimize the risk of injury.
We have nothing to lose and Sturridge will be highly motivated if for no other reason than to increase the interest of better clubs when his contract runs out at the end of the season.

In closing:
Pick his moments.
Manage his time.
Play to his strengths.
Surround him with players that complement him.
Don't give him things that he can't do and then be surprised when he can't do it.

Do that and he'll be fine.
The problem with number three is that he is as likely to get injured training year round as he is in a twenty minute cameo, in fact more likely.
If you keep him for those situations then history tells us, mostly he isn't around to do it, and when he does come on he can legitimately claim to be of match pace/fitness. 
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #224 on: July 25, 2018, 09:06:59 pm »
The problem with number three is that he is as likely to get injured training year round as he is in a twenty minute cameo, in fact more likely.
If you keep him for those situations then history tells us, mostly he isn't around to do it, and when he does come on he can legitimately claim to be of match pace/fitness. 
I think its a bad idea, but I'm not always right!

The idea of managing his time should also take into consideration the way he trains as well though. If he is going to get injured in training - then don't have him train - or at the most have him do very low impact stuff - jogging, ball work, 20 minutes in training games.

His body is almost certainly fucked - this really is the twilight of his career. I think both he and the club (or other clubs he may move to) need to be realistic about what he is physically capable off and for how long.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #225 on: July 25, 2018, 09:16:05 pm »
Love Danny, not many will agree but our most naturally gifted player for me

Any excuse to post this gem too...

Damn, that video's got me all moist. I do still have some concerns with whether he completely suits the way we play but he's so damn talented and we're far better with him in the squad, that keeping him and utilising him this season is the obvious way to go.
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« Reply #226 on: July 25, 2018, 09:27:41 pm »
Hes gonna play 60 games and score 63 goals. Law of averages. and his pace is gonna be better than ever before.
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #227 on: July 25, 2018, 10:52:19 pm »
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #228 on: July 26, 2018, 11:53:01 am »
Love Danny, not many will agree but our most naturally gifted player for me

Any excuse to post this gem too...

Crazy how little of this video he's using his pace. I know that losing it has wider impact on a players game than their sprints but still, he's so obviously a much more technical player than nearly every other striker... Just needs to get his mojo back and he can be an asset.

I know most people wouldn't dispute that, it's the fitness issue, but do remember seeing a lot of people questioning his game last season after all the injuries. It's the mojo aspect for me, which is unsurprising when you consider how mentally affecting so much time out must be. It does seem like he's happy to have a squad role this season, which could be a boost as he tries to reinvent himself somewhat.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #229 on: July 26, 2018, 11:54:48 am »
The problem with number three is that he is as likely to get injured training year round as he is in a twenty minute cameo, in fact more likely.
If you keep him for those situations then history tells us, mostly he isn't around to do it, and when he does come on he can legitimately claim to be of match pace/fitness. 
I think its a bad idea, but I'm not always right!

If it was a case of Sturridge or someone else coming, then I can see your perspective. But as it is, we really don't have anything to lose other than a year's wage.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #230 on: July 26, 2018, 12:01:25 pm »
Wanna see his dance at least ten times this season. Hopefully he stays fit because he can be an amazing option off the bench. Something we sorely needed last season.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #231 on: July 26, 2018, 12:13:00 pm »
Crazy how little of this video he's using his pace. I know that losing it has wider impact on a players game than their sprints but still, he's so obviously a much more technical player than nearly every other striker... Just needs to get his mojo back and he can be an asset.

I know most people wouldn't dispute that, it's the fitness issue, but do remember seeing a lot of people questioning his game last season after all the injuries. It's the mojo aspect for me, which is unsurprising when you consider how mentally affecting so much time out must be. It does seem like he's happy to have a squad role this season, which could be a boost as he tries to reinvent himself somewhat.

I assume that even when he wasn't using his pace though, it helped him beat players as they never wanted to get too close to him since they knew he could just burn them for speed. These days players seem to find it easy to just get touch tight to him and render him ineffective. I've not seen any of our preseason games though, maybe he's adding some strings to his bow in terms of finding the space he needs now.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #232 on: July 26, 2018, 12:28:15 pm »
Fuck it, I'm in again.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #233 on: July 26, 2018, 01:59:32 pm »
Sturridge is a goalscorer - a true number 9. a Player who can anticipate where the ball is going to be and the goalscoring instincts tak advantage. The first three games of the title challenging season sticks out for me. We won all three games 1-0 and Sturridge scored all three winners. I am not sure what role he is going to play this season, but - the ideal player you want to bring on from the bench when you desperately need a goal. He could be a valuable player this season
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #234 on: July 26, 2018, 07:26:57 pm »
He's our striker!
And he's gonna score goals, cause he can't do it any other way!
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #235 on: July 26, 2018, 07:32:34 pm »
Sturridge was making runs in behind yesterday but the midfielders were holding on to the ball. You should be winning the ball in one move and playing him in in the next. Very frustrating. In the 10 minute LFC.TV highlights you see Lallana win the ball, Daniel makes a run behind the defense and his run isn't tracked, instead of simply playing in Sturridge he makes one of his (many) Cruff turns and the opportunity is gone.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #236 on: July 26, 2018, 07:45:07 pm »
By the same token when he did get the ball he couldn't create any space for himself and was even pushed off the ball in the box the one time.  It's only 45 minutes and maybe on Saturday he'll play with Mane and Salah which in theory would give him more space.  With that said yesterday wasn't his best and he was playing against a bunch of kids who will probably never see game time anytime soon in the PL.

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #237 on: July 26, 2018, 07:46:48 pm »
Sturridge was making runs in behind yesterday but the midfielders were holding on to the ball. You should be winning the ball in one move and playing him in in the next. Very frustrating. In the 10 minute LFC.TV highlights you see Lallana win the ball, Daniel makes a run behind the defense and his run isn't tracked, instead of simply playing in Sturridge he makes one of his (many) Cruff turns and the opportunity is gone.

With Lallana wide, and Wijnaldum,Milner and Fabinho in midfield, the lack of creativity to take advantage of the runs he was making stood out. I think obviously he would excel around our best players in the best formation

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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #238 on: July 27, 2018, 09:54:27 am »
Sturridge was making runs in behind yesterday but the midfielders were holding on to the ball. You should be winning the ball in one move and playing him in in the next. Very frustrating. In the 10 minute LFC.TV highlights you see Lallana win the ball, Daniel makes a run behind the defense and his run isn't tracked, instead of simply playing in Sturridge he makes one of his (many) Cruff turns and the opportunity is gone.
Sturridge played best with Coutinho, Suarez and in pre-season Keita, my guess is these players operate on a different level
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Re: The Daniel Sturridge
« Reply #239 on: July 27, 2018, 10:22:30 am »
Sturridge was making runs in behind yesterday but the midfielders were holding on to the ball. You should be winning the ball in one move and playing him in in the next. Very frustrating. In the 10 minute LFC.TV highlights you see Lallana win the ball, Daniel makes a run behind the defense and his run isn't tracked, instead of simply playing in Sturridge he makes one of his (many) Cruff turns and the opportunity is gone.

Lallanas doing my nut in preseason. I'm a big fan b7t he's overcomplicating things, turning back into trouble, not playing a through ball etc. Hopefully he gets back into his rhythm.
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