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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #80 on: February 15, 2007, 08:04:51 am »
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #81 on: February 15, 2007, 04:47:51 pm »
I probably dont want to know the answer, but for the love of God, who takes pictures of train stations!!

I thought it looked cool/artsy with the geometry of the arched roof.  Besides, I'm a Yank, enough said! ;D
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #82 on: February 15, 2007, 04:57:46 pm »
I like it, it's a good pic :wave

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #83 on: February 15, 2007, 05:01:11 pm »
I thought it looked cool/artsy with the geometry of the arched roof.  Besides, I'm a Yank, enough said! ;D

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #84 on: February 16, 2007, 10:17:06 am »
I thought it looked cool/artsy with the geometry of the arched roof.  Besides, I'm a Yank, enough said! ;D

I think it's a cracking pic, love the way the shadow of the roof structure precisely follows the arc of the platform.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #85 on: February 19, 2007, 02:22:46 am »
The problem we have is that we are always the last stop. That limits the amount of destinations that can be reached from Lime Street.

As for the building work fine, but they have closed off the drop off/pick up point. Its like fuckin no mans land there now trying to find somewhere to stop. And they keep changing the road layout around the new student building.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #86 on: February 19, 2007, 02:24:12 am »
Personally, I like Lime Street Station.  Not too big, not too small.  It has all the comforts I need and gets me to where I need to go!

Here's a pic I took on a previous visit.

Is it sad that i know that is looking at platform 7 at the Liverpool to London Euston train?!
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #87 on: February 20, 2007, 06:05:52 pm »
Is it sad that i know that is looking at platform 7 at the Liverpool to London Euston train?!

Nice one, very good!  :thumbup
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #88 on: February 23, 2007, 02:42:10 am »
Is it sad that i know that is looking at platform 7 at the Liverpool to London Euston train?!

depends if you know it because you use it regular or not...if you don't...then i'm afraid it's not looking good!

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #89 on: March 1, 2007, 02:43:54 pm »
no, it's the fact that there ain't enough money in the city, sadly.
the fact that the city can't sustain it's few major department stores already is a bit scary though.  Unless you're saying that everyone with a bit of money goes and does their shopping in Manchester at the moment.

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #90 on: March 1, 2007, 03:47:52 pm »
John Lewis are raking it in. The fact that there will be a brand new one as well as a Debenhams. So in fact if Lewis's survives we'll have gained one.

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #91 on: September 29, 2016, 06:26:26 pm »
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/09/29/liverpool-lime-street-vr/

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Mind the Gap: NVIDIA GPUs Recreate Fabled UK Rail Station in VR
Virtual reality is helping Network Rail, the owner and infrastructure manager of most of the UK’s rail network, to redevelop one of the world’s oldest — and most complex — rail stations.

The Liverpool Lime Street station will be the first in Britain modeled in VR. That model will help engineers save time and money and improve safety as they add new lines to the largest and oldest railway station in Liverpool.

Network Rail is spending approximately $450 million to improve the Liverpool Lime Street terminus. The plans include changing the layout and length of Lime Street’s platforms to accommodate more and longer trains and upgrading signaling to make it more reliable.

More than 20,000 commuters scurry underneath the cavernous station’s landmark iron and glass roofs each day, a number planners expect to double in the next 25 years.

To model the station’s unique layout, Specialist Project Integration use a range of technology, running on NVIDIA GPUs, that lets engineers push data from laser scans and photogrammetry into traditional computer-aided design applications. From there, engineers can pour the data into custom-built workstations for modeling and into the Unity game engine to be rendered into VR.

NVIDIA GPUs have been critical to this work.

“We’ve been an NVIDIA customer for years,” says Simon Wray, managing director of Specialist Project Integration. “We used an array of NVIDIA GPUs in the design phase and to drive the VR application so that we could create and seamlessly run 3D environments of the highest visual fidelity.”

The VR technology has enabled Network Rail to conduct virtual site tours, reducing the amount of time needed on track and the potential impact on train services. VR has also improved safety by allowing engineers to identify risks and hazards in advance. It also helps work go faster, by letting planners identify problems that could delay their work.

The Liverpool Lime Street station will be the first in Britain modeled in VR.

The public can get a look at the virtual station, too. Kiosks, built by the Institute of Civil Engineers, will demo the VR experience to commuters at the Liverpool Lime Street station starting at the end of this year.

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #92 on: September 29, 2016, 07:10:14 pm »
Network Rail is spending approximately $450 million to improve the Liverpool Lime Street terminus.

That's a hell of a lot of money! Is it right or has an additional 0 found it's way in?

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #93 on: September 29, 2016, 07:59:36 pm »
Network Rail is spending approximately $450 million to improve the Liverpool Lime Street terminus.

That's a hell of a lot of money! Is it right or has an additional 0 found it's way in?

It's around £340 million in total but not just for Lime Street, it looks like it includes quite a lot of other rail infrastructure around Merseyside...

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/news/2016/mar/railway-upgrade-Liverpool-City-Region/
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #94 on: September 30, 2016, 05:07:14 pm »
Got the train from where I now live in Manchester to town last year with the wife and kids (lad wanted to go to Liverpool for his 5th birthday). The station doesn't have a ticket office so I expected to pay at some point, if not at Lime Street. No conductor got on so I thought ok I'll pay at the barrier. Was shocked to see they don't have ticket collectors at Limey anymore. Not been in in there for over 30 years, so was shocked. When did this happen? Ended up getting away with not paying a £20+ fare.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #95 on: September 30, 2016, 05:11:03 pm »
Got the train from where I now live in Manchester to town last year with the wife and kids (lad wanted to go to Liverpool for his 5th birthday). The station doesn't have a ticket office so I expected to pay at some point, if not at Lime Street. No conductor got on so I thought ok I'll pay at the barrier. Was shocked to see they don't have ticket collectors at Limey anymore. Not been in in there for over 30 years, so was shocked. When did this happen? Ended up getting away with not paying a £20+ fare.

There in the process of installing ticket barriers for the main platforms (1 to 6 I think) which has always had staff when I've gone through. There's two platforms right at the far end by the taxi rank which don't currently have barriers or regular staff, was it those ones?
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #96 on: September 30, 2016, 07:41:44 pm »
Got the train from where I now live in Manchester to town last year with the wife and kids (lad wanted to go to Liverpool for his 5th birthday). The station doesn't have a ticket office so I expected to pay at some point, if not at Lime Street. No conductor got on so I thought ok I'll pay at the barrier. Was shocked to see they don't have ticket collectors at Limey anymore. Not been in in there for over 30 years, so was shocked. When did this happen? Ended up getting away with not paying a £20+ fare.

Enjoy the relaxed attitude to ticket checks in Liverpool, much better than the jobsworth knobheads at the barriers in Oxford Road that insist on checking every single ticket, even if the station is full with a few hundred commuters in the morning, queues up the stairs etc, its dangerous at times. Can see Lime Street getting similar problems once the new barriers are operational, there's just not enough of them for the amount of people that go through there in the morning. Hoping the staff here will have more sense and just keep them open when it's crowded.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #97 on: October 8, 2016, 08:10:17 pm »
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/09/29/liverpool-lime-street-vr/

Maybe it's because I've grown up in the city but I don't see what is complex about Lime Street station?  Compared to London Euston - which has twice as many platforms and a huge interior concourse and exterior plaza - Lime Street is cook book simple.

The narrow approach that branches out into the nine platforms is probably complex from an engineering and traffic management perspective but the station itself has always seemed rather straightforward to me.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #98 on: October 10, 2016, 01:15:34 pm »
They should re-integrate Birkenhead Woodside into the network and take some of the southern services over.  Close to Hamilton Square station and you have the ferries on your doorstep, plus it could revitalise a... well, shittier part of Merseyside.  I wonder if there is anything about any sort of reintroduction for that?  Most of the network still exists up to and including the former station's throat.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #99 on: October 11, 2016, 12:04:17 am »
Liverpool to Glasgow will be ace. No swapping trains at Crewe or Wigan.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #100 on: October 11, 2016, 10:34:00 pm »
Train fares are ridiculous in fairness. Still don't condone fare dodging but you shouldn't pay more if you couldn't get your ticket at the station well not much more anyway. It's 13.70 from south parkway to Crewe return for example if bought at the station. A return when bought on the train will cost 14.10. Most conductors are sound . the train I get thankfully I can use my pass so don't pay. Before I got it I was paying about 240 quid a month to get to work and back which is a piss take. To think you can get to a lot of European destinations by plane quicker and cheaper than you can get to London by train is a piss take! And the hs2 is a big fucking waste of money too!
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #101 on: October 12, 2016, 06:04:46 am »
They should re-integrate Birkenhead Woodside into the network and take some of the southern services over.  Close to Hamilton Square station and you have the ferries on your doorstep, plus it could revitalise a... well, shittier part of Merseyside.  I wonder if there is anything about any sort of reintroduction for that?  Most of the network still exists up to and including the former station's throat.

Not really familiar with the dark side but if track hasn't been maintained it'd cost an absolute fortune to do. Just to put a siding in for trains to be stored on costs a small fortune.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #102 on: October 12, 2016, 06:35:16 pm »
Incidentally, it's supremely annoying that you now have to change at Preston to get to Blackpool from Liverpool, because that's where electrification stops.  Direct trains between the two are now bloody hard to come by.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #103 on: October 12, 2016, 07:10:09 pm »
Incidentally, it's supremely annoying that you now have to change at Preston to get to Blackpool from Liverpool, because that's where electrification stops.  Direct trains between the two are now bloody hard to come by.

Well it won't be too long before they electrify that bit as well...
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #104 on: October 17, 2016, 09:52:16 am »
Passed through Lime Street yesterday lunchtime on the way back down to Exmoor after a school re-union a few of us had up in Ambleside.
Was pleasantly surprised, the distinct improvement all round even compared to just ten or so years ago was very evident, that opening up of the view to St Georges from the entrance is just great,  and as to what it was like 50 or so years ago the concourse is fantastic now, clean and light. Even had a sit down and a coffee in the backroom of the Spoons within the old Hotel while waiting for my train, lovely ceiling in there. That old hotel was one of those buildings that as a kid I always wondered what it was like inside when I used to sometimes get off the no 12 outside it.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #105 on: October 2, 2017, 06:50:35 pm »
Well can safely say Liverpool south parkway couldn't cope today with lime st being closed. An absolute joke whoever organised this shite. I'll expand once I've had some scran but fuck me piss up and brewery spring to mind.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #106 on: October 2, 2017, 07:02:30 pm »
Well can safely say Liverpool south parkway couldn't cope today with lime st being closed. An absolute joke whoever organised this shite. I'll expand once I've had some scran but fuck me piss up and brewery spring to mind.

Took me four fucking hours to get to work in Manchester today!! Stupid rail replacement driver didn't know his way around and got lost a couple of times, despite the satnav that he had on for the whole bus to hear. 1.5 hours to get from Lime St to St Helens. Stupidly decided against cycling this morning, would have been quicker.

Went back via South Parkway, and it was absolutely chocker. Didn't stop the ticket inspectors from stopping my twice to have another look at my rail pass.

Weirdly when Lime St was closed after that wall collapsed, it was far less busy. No idea what they're doing now. Was also thinking, who scheduled this just after term start for the universities? Why wasn't it done over the summer?

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #107 on: October 2, 2017, 07:21:49 pm »
Don't get me started. Outside the station was just as bad. I turned up for my usual train a bit early, knowing the station parking would be busier. Only to be told the car park was full by 6.15am!!! So thankful I moved a sign and parked in a legit parking space. Tomorrow I will have to either get up a shit load earlier and hope I get a space, or leave my car elsewhere. In itself this isn't an issue. It wasn't until I had counted 88 car parking spaces taken up for a temporary taxi rank! There's a fuck off parking area by the buses the other side of the station where they could have created a taxi rank. Idiocy at its finest. As to that the insanely busy platforms etc. My train was late too due to it being shunted. A fucking piss take to be honest. They knew this was coming it's been months in the planning and they've right royally fucked it up.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #108 on: October 2, 2017, 07:23:23 pm »
Your bang on about the scheduling of it too. Pathetic!
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #109 on: October 3, 2017, 05:47:39 am »
Very badly managed and organised. I was there on Sunday, and will be there most Friday nights/Sundays travelling back from London and back to London. It was bordering on dangerous by 2.15, with another 25 minutes till the train was due, a huge crowd of people waiting for the London train, as expected, but no barriers put in place, so everyone trying to surge to the front, in the end there was about 7 ques of people, and then when they let us down onto the platform everyone tries to run down and push there way down the steps at once.

There was plenty of room in the room before the platforms 1-4, if they want to crowd manage, do some tape, get people zig zagging around the tape, you'd fit 300-500 people like that. Then first come, first serve.

Signage is shocking to, it wasn't to bad around the Merseyrail bit. But as soon as people got of the London train, people looked totally lost, nobody knew where to go, so it probably took a good 20-25 minutes to clear a train that would normally clear in 2 minutes. The signage around platform 1-4, and lack of screens showing people whats leaving from what platform was shocking.

They've had months to plan for this like everybody says, but unfortunately they've totally messed it up. If it were me, I'd have huge temporary screens at the bottom of the Platforms listing which train is departing which platform, that way passengers changing for different trains know immediately where there going.

Oh whilst I think about it, the merseyrail bit - I reckon there were 2-300 people ready to get on the train from South parkway back to Liverpool/Southport. The problem is, how are people meant to get of the train, with big suitcases, when the platform is full? It was ridiculous, and again bordering on dangerous, as the 2-300 people surged forward to try nab a seat on the train, whilst people were still getting off, and there was no where for people to go, and about 2 staff members trying to control the surge forwards to allow passengers with huge suitcases to get through, it didn't work, so passengers who had got of, were left standing in between doors, whilst people got onto the train. Basically if you think you could rush across from Merseyrail to platforms 1-4 - you'll be badly mistaken, it easily took me 20 minutes.

If you are travelling merseyrail ensure you go for carriages 1-2 (Nearest to the drivers door) as this is where the steps are up.

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #110 on: October 3, 2017, 06:57:21 am »
It's an absolute joke again this morning. Came early to get a car parking space. People not very Weill informed about where to go platform wise etc despite there being a ridiculous amount of staff who frankly all seem to be standing around chatting. As the earlier poster pointed out this place cannot cope with the demand on this scale. But they've not helped themselves at all. There's chaos everywhere. From the car park to the concourses to the stairs and the platforms. I am stunned by the lack of organisation. Common sense could sort this out to run smoothly. There's a queue of cars to get out of the car park that have been turned away. Meanwhile there's six taxis occupying 88 car parking spaces, go figure! It really is an utter farce.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #111 on: October 3, 2017, 09:05:58 am »
word to the earlybirds, don't bother trying to get into the carpark....just drive past the cenotaph over the road, take a right onto Long Lane and then into Clarendon and Hartington Rd....you'll grab a roadside spec there if you're early enough and then its a couple of mins walk back to the station
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #112 on: October 4, 2017, 11:25:00 am »
People seem to be going to South Parkway via the Northern Line.  The trains aren't going to Hunts Cross and Kirkby/Ormskirk trains are only running at peak times so they can have six car trains on the Southport line to try and cope.

Central Station has been opened up a bit so people with luggage don't have to try and get through the automated barriers - but that's only entering the station.  I got a train to Waterloo from Central about 1.30pm yesterday and it was pretty empty; I would have expected a lot of people getting off even at that time.  Maybe people are only being allowed to travel to SPW via train and coming back they have to use a bus?
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #113 on: October 4, 2017, 11:47:28 am »
No, the Northern line trains are running to their normal timetable (mostly), but turn around at South Parkway. This is the designated way of getting there. There is a bus from South Parkway to Hunts Cross.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #114 on: October 4, 2017, 01:22:47 pm »
K, ta.
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #115 on: October 8, 2017, 08:03:20 am »
Don't get me started on the one express ticket machine they have at SPW. I queued for about 10 minutes to pick up pre-bought tickets and when I got to the front the machine did some sort of hard refresh. The staff member stood nearby told me it always does it, and it'll be fine again in 5 minutes, but my train was due to leave in less than 10 minutes, so I had to run over to the manned stand in the corner and queue there again. Ended up running for the train and only just making it.

The cabbies must have cleaned up from this situation. I knew I wouldn't be able to park at SPW so got the train from Central in the morning - was no chance I was getting the train back at gone 10pm so ended up jumping a Hackney home (over the water).

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #116 on: October 8, 2017, 04:35:31 pm »
I'm coming from Wigan next Saturday for the game. As I understand it I can go to Lime street as normal and go back normal after as long as i leave Lime street before 8pm on Saturday night. Does anyone know if this is correct please

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #117 on: October 8, 2017, 04:55:31 pm »
I'm coming from Wigan next Saturday for the game. As I understand it I can go to Lime street as normal and go back normal after as long as i leave Lime street before 8pm on Saturday night. Does anyone know if this is correct please

Supposedly yes. The Northern trains via St Helens should be running from tomorrow. (And, as you say, only between 6am and 8pm).
https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/our-routes/lnw/liverpool-city-region-upgrade/


Some trains are running on that line, but not at their normal times. Make sure you check!
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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #118 on: October 9, 2017, 12:37:40 pm »
Supposedly yes. The Northern trains via St Helens should be running from tomorrow. (And, as you say, only between 6am and 8pm).
https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/our-routes/lnw/liverpool-city-region-upgrade/


Some trains are running on that line, but not at their normal times. Make sure you check!

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Re: Liverpool Lime Street station
« Reply #119 on: October 11, 2017, 09:39:10 pm »
Will that shower be catered for on Saturday morning?
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