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Re: His Dark Materials - TV Series
« Reply #40 on: December 9, 2019, 08:43:54 pm »
Not really my sort of thing, but enjoying it. Had to google where I'd seen Mrs Coulter before in that annoying just can't place the face way.
Looking forward to next episode, tempted to read the book just so i don't have to wait.
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Re: His Dark Materials - TV Series
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2019, 10:13:12 pm »
Wow, that was a cool episode concluding into an exciting finale next week, for this series. The animation is fantastic, the fight between the bears was like one of those BBC wildlife films. The way Lyra is developing is really interesting, she is getting quite cunning. I am still very intrigued about the lad in the real world and how he is coming into the next series.
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« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2019, 11:24:22 pm »
Agree with that. Great episode.
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Re: His Dark Materials - TV Series
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2019, 11:14:48 am »
Agree with that. Great episode.

 Absolutely.  Probably my favorite thing on the tele at the moment.  I'm a bit gutted that there's only one episode left, but apparently season 2 was filmed before season 1 even aired, so hopefully it won't be too long a wait.

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Re: His Dark Materials - TV Series
« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2019, 01:56:40 pm »
Wow, that was a cool episode concluding into an exciting finale next week, for this series. The animation is fantastic, the fight between the bears was like one of those BBC wildlife films. The way Lyra is developing is really interesting, she is getting quite cunning. I am still very intrigued about the lad in the real world and how he is coming into the next series.
Thanks, it felt like a penultimate episode.
For those that have read the books, does this complete a book. ie not a massive cliffhanger? Actually probably spoilers if you answer that , I'll just wait and watch.
It didn't seem a huge deception by lyra. I guess bears aren't that good at spotting a fib.

Not keen on the scenes in the 'real' world. I assume they'll tie up nicely, but really don't need them.
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Re: His Dark Materials - TV Series
« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2019, 03:16:03 pm »

It didn't seem a huge deception by lyra. I guess bears aren't that good at spotting a fib.

Not keen on the scenes in the 'real' world. I assume they'll tie up nicely, but really don't need them.


Armoured Bears are more or less impervious to being tricked, but because Iofur Raknison is obsessed with being as human as possible as is predominantly greedy, Lyra offering him something he desperately craves blinded him to the trick.

It does mention all this in the series but doesn't dwell on it - I probably noticed it because I've read the books and was slightly looking out for it.

I also preferred the bear fight in the film - Iorek smashing Iofur's jaw off was iconic (and how it happens in the book), whereas this tv adaptation had a bit of wrestling, punching and biting, but the actual death was hidden. Also, in the book and film, Iorek tricks Iofur into thinking he's more hurt than he is - which I took as Iorek realising that Lyra tricked Iofur, so perhaps he also could.


The 'our world' scenes are necessary. Will only appears in book two, but the TV series has spliced his backstory into series 1, which I think works much better
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Re: His Dark Materials - TV Series
« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2019, 04:35:48 pm »
In the book Iofur had a doll as a daemon if i remember right, which highlights his desire for one even more. They seemed to have ignored the fake daemons in the tv show

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Re: His Dark Materials - TV Series
« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2019, 09:10:16 pm »

Armoured Bears are more or less impervious to being tricked, but because Iofur Raknison is obsessed with being as human as possible as is predominantly greedy, Lyra offering him something he desperately craves blinded him to the trick.

It does mention all this in the series but doesn't dwell on it - I probably noticed it because I've read the books and was slightly looking out for it.

I also preferred the bear fight in the film - Iorek smashing Iofur's jaw off was iconic (and how it happens in the book), whereas this tv adaptation had a bit of wrestling, punching and biting, but the actual death was hidden. Also, in the book and film, Iorek tricks Iofur into thinking he's more hurt than he is - which I took as Iorek realising that Lyra tricked Iofur, so perhaps he also could.


The 'our world' scenes are necessary. Will only appears in book two, but the TV series has spliced his backstory into series 1, which I think works much better
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I think he was faking being hurt in the episode, but it wasn't clear because he leapt up to defend Lyra, rather than just surprising Iofur.

And the "bears can't be tricked" thing was mentioned, but probably didn't have much of an impact because we're also told that Iorek was tricked (without going into much detail), and then Iofur is tricked as well.
Been a while since I read the book, but I remember it giving a bit more attention - I think there was a bit with Lyra trying and failing to deceive Iorek?

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Re: His Dark Materials - TV Series
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2019, 02:20:46 pm »
Isn't it the last episode tonight? I am going to miss this show glad we have a second series to look forward too though.
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« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2019, 10:29:56 pm »
Oh my, I am pretty broken after that.  :'(  Poor Roger, all the time I kept thinking Lyra would rescue her friend in time but when she didn't I wasn't ready for the moment at all. Wonderful acting by all concerned the meeting of Lyra's parents too was well done. I thought at one stage she would agree and go with him. I also thought Lyra and Will would meet, but it wasn't to be but at least they will in the next series now. I can't wait the second series, the animation, acting and writing has been really enthralling and I'm going to miss it next week. The BBC has taken a lot of hits recently but well done for this it's been a real worthwhile series.  :)
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Re: His Dark Materials - TV Series
« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2019, 10:37:07 pm »
So when the Magisterium attacked what brought down the airship and we're all the Bears killed in the attack?

Or are we into chains territory? ;)

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« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2019, 10:38:23 pm »
So when the Magisterium attacked what brought down the airship and we're all the Bears killed in the attack?

Or are we into chains territory? ;)

I'd forgotten about the Bear, even more broken now you mean person.
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« Reply #52 on: November 7, 2020, 09:31:27 pm »
Series two begins tomorrow night on BBC1, can't wait.
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« Reply #53 on: November 9, 2020, 08:07:32 am »
The quality of this show has improved significantly. I've seen the first three episodes of series 2, the second episode especially was a standout.

But then, The Subtle Knife always was my favourite of the three novels. I remember reading them all years ago when I started Uni - and being absolutely enamoured with them.

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« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2020, 07:31:25 am »
Anyone else watching?

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I'm liking the second series a lot more than the first so far, but some of it still feels rushed.

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« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2020, 09:18:51 am »
Watched the first series and really enjoyed it but not seen the first episode of the second series yet but will watch it this weekend
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« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2020, 08:10:22 pm »
First episode was great.
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« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2020, 09:10:48 pm »
The quality of this show has improved significantly. I've seen the first three episodes of series 2, the second episode especially was a standout.

But then, The Subtle Knife always was my favourite of the three novels. I remember reading them all years ago when I started Uni - and being absolutely enamoured with them.




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« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2020, 09:13:28 pm »
Loved the first one of the new series starting to getting excited about how they will put future events to film. When it starts to be revealed what it's really all about with the Prophecy

They did tame down the witch torture scene, no removing of teeth or finger nails there is some very violent/gory stuff in the book's most they have cut out so far I guess to make it more family friendly.
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« Reply #59 on: November 11, 2020, 09:15:03 pm »



Leaked ?

Not to my knowledge.

I'm a journalist and cover films and series for a newspaper (not in the UK). I was very recently granted access to HBO's screening room, which is where they upload the first few episodes of upcoming shows or new series ahead of their premiere for press.

I've now seen the first five episodes of series 2 of His Dark Materials - the remaining three don't get screened in advanced for press.

There's also this new HBO show called The Undoing with Hugh Grant and Nicole Kidman. The first five episodes were uploaded for press, which in this case is all of them bar the finale. So I've seen enough to get a good impression of that show, without finding out yet who the murderer is. Which is fair and square.
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« Reply #60 on: November 11, 2020, 09:17:28 pm »
Not to my knowledge.

I'm a journalist and cover films and series for a newspaper (not in the UK). I was very recently granted access to HBO's screening room, which is where they upload the first few episodes of upcoming shows or new series ahead of their premiere for press.

So I've actually seen the first five episodes of series 2 of His Dark Materials now - the remaining three don't get screened in advanced for press.

Is there 8 now I thought they lost 1 because they had to stop filming because of Covid
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« Reply #61 on: November 11, 2020, 09:17:46 pm »
Not to my knowledge.

I'm a journalist and cover films and series for a newspaper (not in the UK). I was very recently granted access to HBO's screening room, which is where they upload the first few episodes of upcoming shows or new series ahead of their premiere for press.

So I've actually seen the first five episodes of series 2 of His Dark Materials now - the remaining three don't get screened in advanced for press.


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« Reply #62 on: November 11, 2020, 09:18:28 pm »
Is there 8 now I thought they lost 1 because they had to stop filming because of Covid

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« Reply #63 on: November 11, 2020, 09:19:09 pm »
Is there 8 now I thought they lost 1 because they had to stop filming because of Covid

Oh, the one with Asriel/James McAvoy? Was that part of the original 8 that they announced? Would be a real shame :-(

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« Reply #64 on: November 11, 2020, 09:21:08 pm »

Nice job.

Thanks - but I recently got made redundant due to covid :-/

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« Reply #65 on: November 11, 2020, 09:23:07 pm »
Oh, the one with Asriel/James McAvoy? Was that part of the original 8 that they announced? Would be a real shame :-(

Yes that's what they said they lost maybe it will be added to the 3rd series somehow.

I was hoping they managed to finish it during the Summer months but maybe he had other commitments then
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« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2020, 02:48:16 pm »
Coolest moment saw far in the show, was Lyra's Demon turning into a Honey Badger in the last episode.


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« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2020, 03:39:39 pm »
Out of interest: How many in here are watching this without having read the books?

And: Were you familiar with the major Hollywood adaptation that came out in 2006? If yes: Did you prefer the first series of the BBC/HBO show to it?

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« Reply #68 on: November 12, 2020, 05:46:34 pm »
Out of interest: How many in here are watching this without having read the books?

And: Were you familiar with the major Hollywood adaptation that came out in 2006? If yes: Did you prefer the first series of the BBC/HBO show to it?
I haven't read them.

I binged the 1st season last week in time for the 2nd season.
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« Reply #69 on: November 12, 2020, 06:07:25 pm »
Out of interest: How many in here are watching this without having read the books?

And: Were you familiar with the major Hollywood adaptation that came out in 2006? If yes: Did you prefer the first series of the BBC/HBO show to it?

I've read the books and I prefer the BBC adaptation.
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« Reply #70 on: November 14, 2020, 03:50:54 pm »
Keep your eyes open in tomorrow’s second episode for a cameo of a very special location ;)

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« Reply #71 on: November 18, 2020, 01:06:19 pm »
Keep your eyes open in tomorrow’s second episode for a cameo of a very special location ;)

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« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2020, 02:42:08 pm »
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« Reply #73 on: November 27, 2020, 08:22:47 pm »
Loved that episode, warming up really nicely now.
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« Reply #74 on: November 30, 2020, 08:54:01 pm »
Another great episode, having to fight the urge to watch the last three episodes of this show on iplayer. The relationship between Lyra an Will is really good, its all building nicely. The sets and locations as ever are lovely to look at, the animation still really good the Pan-Wil moment was one of my highlights.  :-\ Then Terrence Stamp turning up, had no idea he had a part in this. My only problem with Andrew Scott is I still see him as Moriarty and I was half-expecting Sherlock to show up.  :-[
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« Reply #75 on: December 4, 2020, 08:52:09 pm »
Another great episode, having to fight the urge to watch the last three episodes of this show on iplayer. The relationship between Lyra an Will is really good, its all building nicely. The sets and locations as ever are lovely to look at, the animation still really good the Pan-Wil moment was one of my highlights.  :-\ Then Terrence Stamp turning up, had no idea he had a part in this. My only problem with Andrew Scott is I still see him as Moriarty and I was half-expecting Sherlock to show up.  :-[
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« Reply #76 on: December 5, 2020, 10:35:22 am »
The whole series is on iPlayer?

Series one is available on iplayer, got over-excited about series two, thought they were showing the last three episodes, but only on a week to week basis. 😀
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« Reply #77 on: December 6, 2020, 09:26:24 pm »
What a brilliant tense episode tonight and loved the speech about how the different worlds treat women.

And Dr Malone is on her way so excited will we see a glimpse of the Mulefa in this series (if you haven't read the books don't goggle it)

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« Reply #78 on: December 6, 2020, 09:34:27 pm »
What a brilliant tense episode tonight and loved the speech about how the different worlds treat women.

And Dr Malone is on her way so excited will we see a glimpse of the Mulefa in this series (if you haven't read the books don't goggle it)

It has been a fantastic series this, can't wait to see tonight's episode.  ;D
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Re: His Dark Materials - TV Series
« Reply #79 on: December 6, 2020, 10:09:16 pm »
It has been a fantastic series this, can't wait to see tonight's episode.  ;D

Haven't watched the second season yet, but liked the first one a lot, and was particularly impressed with the Iorek. I needed persuading on Lin-Manuel Miranda as Lee Scoresby, some of the casting from the film was so perfect, Eva Green as the witch, Sam Elliot as Lee Scoresby, Daniel Craig as Asriel and Nicole Kidman as Mrs Coulter were all perfect. The girl in this version is great though.
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