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« Reply #60760 on: February 15, 2020, 09:38:30 pm »
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« Reply #60761 on: February 15, 2020, 10:22:31 pm »
The problem is Democrats would increase the debt even more if they get their way. So they will have it difficult to critisize Trump for the budget deficit and the increased debt. Whoever wins the election, we are likely to get MMT.
Yeah, because they'd be giving massive tax cuts....
History concludes that the opposite of your statement is true, looks like you've fallen for the gop propaganda....

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« Reply #60762 on: February 15, 2020, 11:47:52 pm »
Can't remember if it was already mentioned here or on another forum I frequent, but a Gallup poll from January shows 90% of Americans are generally satisfied with life (highest since 1969),65% think the economy is thriving and 70% think it'll be better next year, vs. 25% in 2016 prior to the election. Now, that is pretty scary given that we know the economy was in excellent shape at the end of Obama's tenure. Either things have genuinely improved under Trump, or his relentless braggadocio and credit-hogging has had the intended effect. People are going to forgive a lot of his abhorrent behaviour if they think he's making them richer. The Democratic nominee had better have outstanding powers of persuasion, and the ability to explain complex long term economic consequences to the masses.

You are surprised? They friggin blamed the 2008 crash on Obama and think the economy has only been growing since 2017. All they could talk about was the debt under Obama while Trump has added 3 Trillion...And not a peep.

Of course all those baby boomers are fat and happy. They've got their pensions, their investments, their viagara, their paid-off homes, and their government healthcare. The economy is on a sugar high and the gluttons don't want to admit that it may end.
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« Reply #60763 on: February 16, 2020, 12:01:23 am »
You are surprised? They friggin blamed the 2008 crash on Obama and think the economy has only been growing since 2017. All they could talk about was the debt under Obama while Trump has added 3 Trillion...And not a peep.

Of course all those baby boomers are fat and happy. They've got their pensions, their investments, their viagara, their paid-off homes, and their government healthcare. The economy is on a sugar high and the gluttons don't want to admit that it may end.

Trouble is, baby boomers’ pensions are under threat. The stock market is indeed on a sugar high and that's Trump's measurement of success. But he is just helping the rich. That he aims to lower interest rates and drain pension funds is not a concern of his, or he doesn't get it. It's what hurt pensions. It's a gigantic mess. It was bad and Trump makes it even worse.

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« Reply #60764 on: February 16, 2020, 02:42:25 am »
Here is a peer-reviewed study showing that medicare for all will lead to short term as well as long term savings for the American government.

Can we stop scaremongering now about the debt and pretending that there is no difference between Trump giving away money to the rich and progressives wanting poor people to not have to beg strangers for pennies on the internet to afford any fucking medical care.
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« Reply #60765 on: February 16, 2020, 03:55:58 am »
Here is a peer-reviewed study showing that medicare for all will lead to short term as well as long term savings for the American government.

Can we stop scaremongering now about the debt and pretending that there is no difference between Trump giving away money to the rich and progressives wanting poor people to not have to beg strangers for pennies on the internet to afford any fucking medical care.

The best is when the MAGA fucks put up GoFundMes and such. Like how fucking stupid do you have to be.

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« Reply #60766 on: February 16, 2020, 09:26:09 am »
The economy is not healthy. It's holding together and that's saving Trump for now. He will do everything he can to keep it together until the election, but there are so many things under that surface that could wreck it for him. I believe he will succeed, because the US are likely to be the last to fall.

Here is just one example of a problem

https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2019/02/subprime-car-loans-buy-automobile-lending-debt-trap/582652/

Here is another one

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2020/01/fed-repos-have-plowed-6-6-trillion-to-wall-street-in-four-months-thats-34-of-its-feeding-tube-during-epic-financial-crash/

When any issues start impacting the ‘majority’ of voters then this may impact Trump at the ballot box.  Until then, there may not be any change. 

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« Reply #60767 on: February 16, 2020, 12:13:41 pm »
Very nice of you. :waveYup. Applied myself a bit more seriously to my work, and am trying to become more fluent in French.

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« Reply #60768 on: February 16, 2020, 12:24:20 pm »
Trouble is, baby boomers’ pensions are under threat. The stock market is indeed on a sugar high and that's Trump's measurement of success. But he is just helping the rich. That he aims to lower interest rates and drain pension funds is not a concern of his, or he doesn't get it. It's what hurt pensions. It's a gigantic mess. It was bad and Trump makes it even worse.

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« Reply #60769 on: February 16, 2020, 02:35:25 pm »
When any issues start impacting the ‘majority’ of voters then this may impact Trump at the ballot box.  Until then, there may not be any change. 

I think it is impacting people already. I don't live in the US, but we have these calls for healthcare, the issues with student loans, the pension problem etc. Therefore I believe people are being sold an idea that things are great, but people know it's false. Trump uses propaganda to paper over the cracks.

That said, I believe you are correct. Trump's propaganda will work unless something happens that has a direct impact on people, such as loss of jobs.

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« Reply #60770 on: February 16, 2020, 03:44:47 pm »
I think it is impacting people already. I don't live in the US, but we have these calls for healthcare, the issues with student loans, the pension problem etc. Therefore I believe people are being sold an idea that things are great, but people know it's false. Trump uses propaganda to paper over the cracks.

That said, I believe you are correct. Trump's propaganda will work unless something happens that has a direct impact on people, such as loss of jobs.

Trump's propaganda is only a symptom, not a cause of the overall issues.

The people complaining the loudest (e.g. millennials who are burdened by student loans who are despaired by home costs, concerns about climate change, etc and older people who are worried about healthcare) are often unheard.  Even as the Democrats who won back the House on the healthcare message, it's not like they all agreed on Medicare for All.  If you look at the likes of Biden and Bloomberg, the entire message is to beat Trump, it's not to truly solve the issues that have been persistent in America for a long time (e.g. inequality).  Bigwig donors that back these candidates don't want changes to the system.  It's not just Trump's propaganda.  Those that want change (e.g. Sanders and Warren) will have to overcome a lot of resistance.  Plenty of people know that the amazing economy rhetoric is false, but plenty of people also knew about it before Trump also.  More and more people understand these issues, for sure, but plenty of Americans don't really care.

The entire system is a problem.  Look at Bloomberg literally buying his way into the election or the sheer amount of money in politics on both sides.  It's not just Trump propaganda.  Why Bernie gets so much love from young people for example is that he does represent hope for genuine change.  An independent senator from Vermont whose ideas aren't even that radical by western nations' perspective is literally so refreshing that he's getting much love from people one-third his age.

Think of everyone that's run for president and other office since the 90s.  How of them truly wanted to address the inequality inherent in the system?

The other thing is, on the metrics, it is accepted that GDP, unemployment rate, stock market, etc are the measure of economic success.  But things that look at wages, housing/healthcare affordability, wealth inequality, etc are often ignored.  And it's been this way for a long time.

Even thinking about the rhetoric of manufacturing jobs.  Trump's propaganda kicks in here, but the overall thinking misses the point:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/28/theres-a-big-reason-trump-might-not-be-able-to-keep-his-promise-on-jobs/

"U.S. factories now manufacture twice as much as they did in 1984, with one-third fewer workers, according to the Federal Reserve."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-manufacturing-dead-output-has-doubled-in-three-decades-2016-03-28

Manufacturing isn't dead in the US.  It's still crucial.  It's just that automation has taken away jobs while increasing productivity.  But it is much, much easier to blame other countries and globalization than it is to face facts.  And also, some will argue that this is part of the natural cycle.  Something like 40% of Americans were farmers in the early 1900's.  It's now 2%.  There was no way to sustain the number of jobs that manufacturing supported in the 70s and 80s, but those jobs can be moved to other sectors.  However, if you're trying to win over voters in towns that have experienced these job losses, it is easier to use the rhetoric "other countries stole our manufacturing jobs, and I'm bringing them back" than it is to look at automation and the importance of education and job training to move to other sectors.  Andrew Yang, for example, constantly cites automation as bringing a complete change to the economy in the future, and while UBI is obviously a centerpiece of his platform, many outlets like to focus on $1,000 a month and poke fun at that without addressing the underlying point.

In the end, with many people reasonably satisfied and fat cats running the show, the message that the economy isn't working for everyone is still not universally accepted.  And even if it was, there's no consensus on how to address it.

Of course, when things truly hit the fan, it's too late.  But until then, people aren't motivated for big changes.  They'll wait until things look really bad for themselves before pushing changes.  It'll be too late, and even then I'm sure the politicians and donors that prop up this system will then blame it all on globalization, immigrants, socialists, Millennials being lazy, etc.
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« Reply #60771 on: February 16, 2020, 05:05:21 pm »
Trump's propaganda is only a symptom, not a cause of the overall issues.

The people complaining the loudest (e.g. millennials who are burdened by student loans who are despaired by home costs, concerns about climate change, etc and older people who are worried about healthcare) are often unheard.  Even as the Democrats who won back the House on the healthcare message, it's not like they all agreed on Medicare for All.  If you look at the likes of Biden and Bloomberg, the entire message is to beat Trump, it's not to truly solve the issues that have been persistent in America for a long time (e.g. inequality).  Bigwig donors that back these candidates don't want changes to the system.  It's not just Trump's propaganda.  Those that want change (e.g. Sanders and Warren) will have to overcome a lot of resistance.  Plenty of people know that the amazing economy rhetoric is false, but plenty of people also knew about it before Trump also.  More and more people understand these issues, for sure, but plenty of Americans don't really care.

The entire system is a problem.  Look at Bloomberg literally buying his way into the election or the sheer amount of money in politics on both sides.  It's not just Trump propaganda.  Why Bernie gets so much love from young people for example is that he does represent hope for genuine change.  An independent senator from Vermont whose ideas aren't even that radical by western nations' perspective is literally so refreshing that he's getting much love from people one-third his age.

Think of everyone that's run for president and other office since the 90s.  How of them truly wanted to address the inequality inherent in the system?

The other thing is, on the metrics, it is accepted that GDP, unemployment rate, stock market, etc are the measure of economic success.  But things that look at wages, housing/healthcare affordability, wealth inequality, etc are often ignored.  And it's been this way for a long time.

Even thinking about the rhetoric of manufacturing jobs.  Trump's propaganda kicks in here, but the overall thinking misses the point:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/28/theres-a-big-reason-trump-might-not-be-able-to-keep-his-promise-on-jobs/

"U.S. factories now manufacture twice as much as they did in 1984, with one-third fewer workers, according to the Federal Reserve."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-manufacturing-dead-output-has-doubled-in-three-decades-2016-03-28

Manufacturing isn't dead in the US.  It's still crucial.  It's just that automation has taken away jobs while increasing productivity.  But it is much, much easier to blame other countries and globalization than it is to face facts.  And also, some will argue that this is part of the natural cycle.  Something like 40% of Americans were farmers in the early 1900's.  It's now 2%.  There was no way to sustain the number of jobs that manufacturing supported in the 70s and 80s, but those jobs can be moved to other sectors.  However, if you're trying to win over voters in towns that have experienced these job losses, it is easier to use the rhetoric "other countries stole our manufacturing jobs, and I'm bringing them back" than it is to look at automation and the importance of education and job training to move to other sectors.  Andrew Yang, for example, constantly cites automation as bringing a complete change to the economy in the future, and while UBI is obviously a centerpiece of his platform, many outlets like to focus on $1,000 a month and poke fun at that without addressing the underlying point.

In the end, with many people reasonably satisfied and fat cats running the show, the message that the economy isn't working for everyone is still not universally accepted.  And even if it was, there's no consensus on how to address it.

Of course, when things truly hit the fan, it's too late.  But until then, people aren't motivated for big changes.  They'll wait until things look really bad for themselves before pushing changes.  It'll be too late, and even then I'm sure the politicians and donors that prop up this system will then blame it all on globalization, immigrants, socialists, Millennials being lazy, etc.

Agree that Trump's propaganda isn't a cause. I mean the propaganda is his way to stay in power. He's really good at it too. It pains to say that he has talents, but propaganda is one of them. Whatever he tweets or says becomes topic of the day for everyone. So when he says the stock market high is a sign of a great economy, that's what people talk about. Slowly it gets accepted.

The metrics in general, why do we believe them? It's all selective. We're being told inflation is low. At the same time housing prices go to the moon, nothing happens to inflation. Housing isn't included. It should be quite an important part of most households economy, but it would ruin the numbers. Because of the inaccuracy, it's easy for Trump to choose his metrics. Why not? I don't think he's much different there. But when people feel pain and detect the lies, all hell will break loose.

Your point about farmers is a really important one. I've read that back in the 1930s, increased productivity created problems for farmers. It created excessive supply and eventually put people out of jobs. The comparison to our time is computers, the internet, the mobile phone etc may have a similar effect on our society today. Old jobs disappear. Trump tried to appeal to people who have lost their jobs and they bought it. He went on with his tariffs, as if that was a solution to get jobs back. Instead he put an extra tax on the American people. I have no problem with America taking a stance against China, but I don't think Trump has a clue what he's doing. Except when it comes to the propaganda. It really annoys me that everyone jumps at every tweet and settle for it. It's so easy. It wouldn't be much harder to remind everyone that Trump called the stock marker at big, fat, ugly bubble when he was a candidate. Now it's his own measure of success and he wants to make it even bigger, fatter and uglier with the same methods that he complained about. Instead we're stuck being upset with his latest tweet/name calling regarding Sanders, Biden, Warren or Bloomberg. Our media is doing the propaganda for him, even though they seem to believe they are not.

Edit: I couldn't access the Washington Post article, but the other one was good.
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« Reply #60772 on: February 16, 2020, 05:29:00 pm »
Agree that Trump's propaganda isn't a cause. I mean the propaganda is his way to stay in power. He's really good at it too. It pains to say that he has talents, but propaganda is one of them. Whatever he tweets or says becomes topic of the day for everyone. So when he says the stock market high is a sign of a great economy, that's what people talk about. Slowly it gets accepted.

The metrics in general, why do we believe them? It's all selective. We're being told inflation is low. At the same time housing prices go to the moon, nothing happens to inflation. Housing isn't included. It should be quite an important part of most households economy, but it would ruin the numbers. Because of the inaccuracy, it's easy for Trump to choose his metrics. Why not? I don't think he's much different there. But when people feel pain and detect the lies, all hell will break loose.

Your point about farmers is a really important one. I've read that back in the 1930s, increased productivity created problems for farmers. It created excessive supply and eventually put people out of jobs. The comparison to our time is computers, the internet, the mobile phone etc may have a similar effect on our society today. Old jobs disappear. Trump tried to appeal to people who have lost their jobs and they bought it. He went on with his tariffs, as if that was a solution to get jobs back. Instead he put an extra tax on the American people. I have no problem with America taking a stance against China, but I don't think Trump has a clue what he's doing. Except when it comes to the propaganda. It really annoys me that everyone jumps at every tweet and settle for it. It's so easy. It wouldn't be much harder to remind everyone that Trump called the stock marker at big, fat, ugly bubble when he was a candidate. Now it's his own measure of success and he wants to make it even bigger, fatter and uglier with the same methods that he complained about. Instead we're stuck being upset with his latest tweet/name calling regarding Sanders, Biden, Warren or Bloomberg. Our media is doing the propaganda for him, even though they seem to believe they are not.

Edit: I couldn't access the Washington Post article, but the other one was good.

Your point in bold is spot on, as is your points that Trump can just brag about a couple of metrics and keep his numbers afloat.

The gutting of the State department, the appointment of unqualified economic advisors, the nepotism of his family being involved, and the purging of those unloyal to him means that there is no coherent domestic or foreign policy strategy.

The media loves covering him as it boosts ratings.  The moguls aren't bothered either way who's president really.  I'm sure there are Democrats that would prefer Trump to Sanders or Warren.

The thing about people taking his word for granted I think is related to the decades of people simplifying numbers to just a few points.  As you say, Trump now plays the same game.  There is nuance to every number, but people don't have the attention span for it.
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« Reply #60773 on: February 16, 2020, 06:02:56 pm »
Trump's propaganda is only a symptom, not a cause of the overall issues.

The people complaining the loudest (e.g. millennials who are burdened by student loans who are despaired by home costs, concerns about climate change, etc and older people who are worried about healthcare) are often unheard.  Even as the Democrats who won back the House on the healthcare message, it's not like they all agreed on Medicare for All.  If you look at the likes of Biden and Bloomberg, the entire message is to beat Trump, it's not to truly solve the issues that have been persistent in America for a long time (e.g. inequality).  Bigwig donors that back these candidates don't want changes to the system.  It's not just Trump's propaganda.  Those that want change (e.g. Sanders and Warren) will have to overcome a lot of resistance.  Plenty of people know that the amazing economy rhetoric is false, but plenty of people also knew about it before Trump also.  More and more people understand these issues, for sure, but plenty of Americans don't really care.

The entire system is a problem.  Look at Bloomberg literally buying his way into the election or the sheer amount of money in politics on both sides.  It's not just Trump propaganda.  Why Bernie gets so much love from young people for example is that he does represent hope for genuine change.  An independent senator from Vermont whose ideas aren't even that radical by western nations' perspective is literally so refreshing that he's getting much love from people one-third his age.

Think of everyone that's run for president and other office since the 90s.  How of them truly wanted to address the inequality inherent in the system?

The other thing is, on the metrics, it is accepted that GDP, unemployment rate, stock market, etc are the measure of economic success.  But things that look at wages, housing/healthcare affordability, wealth inequality, etc are often ignored.  And it's been this way for a long time.

Even thinking about the rhetoric of manufacturing jobs.  Trump's propaganda kicks in here, but the overall thinking misses the point:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/28/theres-a-big-reason-trump-might-not-be-able-to-keep-his-promise-on-jobs/

"U.S. factories now manufacture twice as much as they did in 1984, with one-third fewer workers, according to the Federal Reserve."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-manufacturing-dead-output-has-doubled-in-three-decades-2016-03-28

Manufacturing isn't dead in the US.  It's still crucial.  It's just that automation has taken away jobs while increasing productivity.  But it is much, much easier to blame other countries and globalization than it is to face facts.  And also, some will argue that this is part of the natural cycle.  Something like 40% of Americans were farmers in the early 1900's.  It's now 2%.  There was no way to sustain the number of jobs that manufacturing supported in the 70s and 80s, but those jobs can be moved to other sectors.  However, if you're trying to win over voters in towns that have experienced these job losses, it is easier to use the rhetoric "other countries stole our manufacturing jobs, and I'm bringing them back" than it is to look at automation and the importance of education and job training to move to other sectors.  Andrew Yang, for example, constantly cites automation as bringing a complete change to the economy in the future, and while UBI is obviously a centerpiece of his platform, many outlets like to focus on $1,000 a month and poke fun at that without addressing the underlying point.

In the end, with many people reasonably satisfied and fat cats running the show, the message that the economy isn't working for everyone is still not universally accepted.  And even if it was, there's no consensus on how to address it.

Of course, when things truly hit the fan, it's too late.  But until then, people aren't motivated for big changes.  They'll wait until things look really bad for themselves before pushing changes.  It'll be too late, and even then I'm sure the politicians and donors that prop up this system will then blame it all on globalization, immigrants, socialists, Millennials being lazy, etc.

This is great.

I'd add that the part in bold also describes the media that the poor get their information from. The hosts of CNN etc. are fat n happy and the current situation suits them fine. They have healthcare and they have bulging 401ks. And their paymasters are Advertising from big pharma, healthcare, negative election campaigns, energy companies, autos, etc.  They rely on guns, war, political gridlock, mideast tensions, etc. To be endless unsolvable problems to give them easy content between the pharma ads.

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« Reply #60774 on: February 18, 2020, 08:10:44 am »

Rachel Maddow totally eviscerated Trump over his financial dealings last night. The show is available in podcast form.

This is the area of attack the media and his opponents should really be pushing. His Tax Records case is up in front of the Supreme Court soon, assuming they don`t roll over, she made the point that he might just ignore their ruling thanks to being emboldened by his "acquital".
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« Reply #60775 on: February 18, 2020, 09:34:23 am »
His Tax Records case is up in front of the Supreme Court soon, assuming they don`t roll over

Loaded in his favour, nothing happening here

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« Reply #60776 on: February 18, 2020, 10:35:12 am »
Reading he was a guest at Stephen Millers wedding to one of Pence's press secretaries at Trump DC Hotel.

What a perfect storm of shitiness that would have been.
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« Reply #60777 on: February 18, 2020, 10:52:19 am »
Rachel Maddow totally eviscerated Trump over his financial dealings last night. The show is available in podcast form.

This is the area of attack the media and his opponents should really be pushing. His Tax Records case is up in front of the Supreme Court soon, assuming they don`t roll over, she made the point that he might just ignore their ruling thanks to being emboldened by his "acquital".
Assuming that the Supreme Court finds in favour of Congress's subpoena for Trump's tax returns, surely others (the IRS and Trump's accountants) will be compelled to supply the records under threat of penalty. When it comes down to a Supreme Court judgement on the hand, and Trump's bluster on the other, surely someone will cave and do as the court instructs. Surely!? ???
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« Reply #60778 on: February 18, 2020, 04:06:13 pm »
Assuming that the Supreme Court finds in favour of Congress's subpoena for Trump's tax returns, surely others (the IRS and Trump's accountants) will be compelled to supply the records under threat of penalty. When it comes down to a Supreme Court judgement on the hand, and Trump's bluster on the other, surely someone will cave and do as the court instructs. Surely!? ???

Maddow did make the point that some of the instructions will be to Deutsche Bank and his accounting firm, people outwith Trump`s mythical realm of executive immunity. But, do we trust the SC will stand up and do the right thing when the lucky fuck has been able to handpick two of it`s members? This is a big moment.

Deutsche have already state that they no longer have his tax records. I hope that is tested, because they are as dirty as fuck. A short list of their clients:

1. Trump
2. Jeffrey Epstein
3. The Russian Govt (Putin)
3. The Nazis (apparently the approved the loans to build Auschwitz.)
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« Reply #60779 on: February 18, 2020, 04:07:05 pm »
Reading he was a guest at Stephen Millers wedding to one of Pence's press secretaries at Trump DC Hotel.

What a perfect storm of shitiness that would have been.

You should see the photos. Though i advise you don`t.
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« Reply #60780 on: February 18, 2020, 04:18:07 pm »
You should see the photos. Though i advise you don`t.

Did it look something like this?
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« Reply #60781 on: February 18, 2020, 07:35:46 pm »
Maddow did make the point that some of the instructions will be to Deutsche Bank and his accounting firm, people outwith Trump`s mythical realm of executive immunity. But, do we trust the SC will stand up and do the right thing when the lucky fuck has been able to handpick two of it`s members? This is a big moment.

Deutsche have already state that they no longer have his tax records. I hope that is tested, because they are as dirty as fuck. A short list of their clients:

1. Trump
2. Jeffrey Epstein
3. The Russian Govt (Putin)
3. The Nazis (apparently the approved the loans to build Auschwitz.)

Whilst this is true, ironically Kavanagh has voted against Trump several times already so who knows

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« Reply #60782 on: February 18, 2020, 10:09:07 pm »
Shows the sort of man he is....
Trump commutes sentence of ex-Illinois Gov. Blagojevich, pardons ex-NY police commissioner Kerik, ex-49ers owner DeBartolo — and Michael Milken.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/18/trump-expected-to-grant-clemency-to-rod-blagojevich-bernard-kerik.html

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« Reply #60783 on: February 19, 2020, 08:15:40 am »
Shows the sort of man he is....
Trump commutes sentence of ex-Illinois Gov. Blagojevich, pardons ex-NY police commissioner Kerik, ex-49ers owner DeBartolo — and Michael Milken.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/18/trump-expected-to-grant-clemency-to-rod-blagojevich-bernard-kerik.html

Madoff next?

He`s trolling and seeing what he can get away with.

Whatever he wants is the answer.

Why arent there organised marches and protests across the country? Perhaps in the states where he organises his rallies good citizens should exercise their 2nd Amendment rights.
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« Reply #60784 on: February 19, 2020, 03:11:26 pm »
Shows the sort of man he is....
Trump commutes sentence of ex-Illinois Gov. Blagojevich, pardons ex-NY police commissioner Kerik, ex-49ers owner DeBartolo — and Michael Milken.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/18/trump-expected-to-grant-clemency-to-rod-blagojevich-bernard-kerik.html

Madoff next?

If he had ended up making a shit load of money off of Madoff back in the day, he'd have granted him clemency years ago. Madoff is unfortunate in that Trump probably just doesn't give a flying fuck about him.  ;D

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« Reply #60785 on: February 19, 2020, 10:22:28 pm »

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« Reply #60786 on: February 20, 2020, 03:00:19 am »
Not that one should read too much into the ramblings of a brainwashed idiot, but why does Stephanie Grisham call this a DNC hoax when it's Assange making the claim?

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« Reply #60787 on: February 20, 2020, 04:49:39 pm »
Trump criticised for appointing loyalist Grenell as acting spy chief

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President Donald Trump has appointed Richard Grenell, the current ambassador to Germany, as the acting intelligence chief in charge of US spy agencies.

The move was a surprise to many given his lack of relevant experience and controversial record of pushing conservative policies as a diplomat.

But Mr Grenell is a staunch Trump loyalist and has been outspoken in his defence of the president.

Critics say this bias will impede his ability to deliver neutral facts.

As the acting Director of National Intelligence, Mr Grenell will manage the National Security Agency, FBI, and CIA among other agencies, as well as advise the president on intelligence concerns.

The president announced the appointment via Twitter on Wednesday, saying Mr Grenell had "represented our Country exceedingly well" as ambassador.

But US media report some officials and Trump allies are concerned that Mr Grenell was given the directorship based primarily on his loyalty to Mr Trump.

Mr Grenell is a former Fox News contributor and served as US spokesman at the United Nations during President George W Bush's term. He was confirmed by the Senate to the ambassador role in April 2018.

He is believed to be the first openly gay member of Mr Trump's cabinet.

Mr Grenell will replace the current acting director, Retired Vice Admiral Joseph Maguire, who must leave the post by 12 March in accordance with federal law.

When the last director, Dan Coats, left in July, the president attempted to fill the role with another loyalist, Republican congressman John Ratcliffe.

Mr Trump eventually decided against doing so after bipartisan pushback over Mr Ratcliffe's lack of experience and outspoken support for him. It was clear he was unlikely to be confirmed by the Senate.

There is no indication whether or not Mr Trump intends Mr Grenell to serve permanently.

A White House statement said Mr Grenell had "years of experience working with our Intelligence Community in a number of additional positions" and would take a "non-political, non-partisan approach".

However, some in Washington were less convinced.

"This is a job requiring leadership, management, substance and secrecy," former CIA officer John Sipher told the New York Times.

"He doesn't have the kind of background and experience we would expect for such a critical position."

The idea of having a Director of National Intelligence had been floated since the 1950s, but the role was not created until the aftermath of 9/11.

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Mr Grenell has also been dismissive about Russian meddling and, in his post as ambassador, been an outspoken critic of Berlin's policies. He has called for Germany to follow through on Mr Trump's demands, like increasing contributions to Nato and ending business operations in Iran.

In 2018, following his move to Berlin, Mr Grenell told the far-right publication Breitbart: "I absolutely want to empower other conservatives throughout Europe, other leaders. I think there is a groundswell of conservative policies that are taking hold because of the failed policies of the left."

Last year, he spearheaded a campaign to end the criminalisation of homosexuality worldwide.

He is expected to retain his ambassadorship while serving as acting intelligence chief.

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« Reply #60788 on: February 20, 2020, 05:45:12 pm »
Not that one should read too much into the ramblings of a brainwashed idiot, but why does Stephanie Grisham call this a DNC hoax when it's Assange making the claim?

Because she is a c*nt.
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« Reply #60789 on: February 20, 2020, 06:30:10 pm »
Not that one should read too much into the ramblings of a brainwashed idiot, but why does Stephanie Grisham call this a DNC hoax when it's Assange making the claim?

She obviously has syphillis of the brain, much like the majority of the Trump administration.
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« Reply #60790 on: February 20, 2020, 07:03:58 pm »
Trump ally Roger Stone sentenced to prison

Roger Stone, long-time adviser and ally to President Donald Trump, has been sentenced to 40 months in jail.

Stone, 67, was found guilty in November on seven counts of lying to Congress, obstruction and witness tampering.

He is the sixth Trump aide convicted in a criminal case resulting from Robert Mueller's investigation into alleged collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

Mr Trump has hinted he may pardon his ally.

Stone has maintained the case against him was politically motivated.

Explaining the sentence, Judge Amy Berman Jackson said Stone had engaged in "intolerable" "threatening and intimidating conduct" toward her.

Last week, prosecutors on the case quit after the Justice Department said it planned to reduce the amount of prison time sought for the president's long-time ally.

The prosecutors had recommended a sentence of seven to nine years.

In a tweet, Mr Trump had called the recommendation "very horrible and unfair".

The court heard that Stone had told five lies under oath, including about his conversations with Trump campaign officials and a supposed "intermediary" with WikiLeaks in early August 2016.

He also lied about the existence of certain texts or emails.

Speaking in a Washington courtroom on Thursday, Judge Jackson said Stone "knew exactly what he was doing" when he posted an image to social media last year of a gun sight over the judge, calling the proceedings a "show trial".

"This is intolerable to the rule of justice," Judge Jackson said. "The court cannot just sit idly by and say 'that's just Roger being Roger.'"

Stone told the court that he thought the crosshairs in the picture he posted of Judge Jackson on Monday actually depicted a Celtic cross.

"I am kicking myself over my own stupidity but not more than my wife is kicking me," he said.

Stone, wearing sunglasses and a dark fedora, declined to speak at Thursday's hearing.

His lawyer, Seth Ginsberg, said Stone's public persona - that of a self-described "dirty trickster" - masked the true "human being", a spiritual man, devoted to his family.

Mr Ginsberg had argued that Stone did not deserve the tougher sentencing guidelines demanded by federal guidelines.

Stone will serve two years' probation after his custodial sentence. He has also been fined $20,000 (£15,500) and must serve 250 hours of community service.

As Judge Jackson handed down the sentence, she seemed to allude to Mr Trump, saying Stone "was not prosecuted for standing up for the president, he was prosecuted for covering up for the president".

She continued: "The dismay and disgust at the defendant's belligerence should transcend party."

"At his core, Mr. Stone is an insecure person who craves and recklessly pursues attention."

Entering the courthouse flanked by his wife, family and friends, Stone walked past several protesters, including one giant inflatable rat dressed as Mr Trump, another demonstrator shouting "traitor".

Awaiting Stone's sentencing, Mr Trump sent a tweet that seemed to question his ally's conviction and name-checking a host of perceived enemies.

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“They say Roger Stone lied to Congress.” @CNN  OH, I see, but so did Comey (and he also leaked classified information, for which almost everyone, other than Crooked Hillary Clinton, goes to jail for a long time), and so did Andy McCabe, who also lied to the FBI! FAIRNESS?

The sentence delivered by Judge Jackson falls short of the seven- to nine-year recommendation from prosecutors.

This initial sentencing suggestion was quickly overruled by the US Department of Justice after Mr Trump's public complaints. This reversal led all four prosecutors to quit the case, one leaving the justice department entirely.

At trial on Thursday, Judge Jackson called the Justice Department intervention "unprecedented". But she said the politics surrounding the case did not inform her ultimate decision.

"The truth still exists. The truth still matters," she said.

Stone, a political veteran, has worked with Republicans since the 1970s and has a tattoo of Richard Nixon on his back.

In the 1990s, Stone worked as a lobbyist for Mr Trump's casino business, and later helped Mr Trump's unsuccessful White House run in 2000.

According to the Netflix documentary Get Me Roger Stone, the strategist reportedly encouraged Mr Trump to run for the presidency.

Stone declined questions as he left the courthouse on Thursday, making his way through a crowd of people to a waiting vehicle, with a small smile on his face.

"I have nothing to say," he said.

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« Reply #60791 on: February 21, 2020, 02:46:41 am »
Trump rambling on about the "biased" jury because the forewoman is a former Democratic congressional candidate. That's why you have jury selection ya daft c*nt, if she passed muster then no point whining about it later. Clearly planning a pardon but will probably wait until after the election. Prick.

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« Reply #60792 on: February 21, 2020, 07:26:44 am »
Trump upset that someone stole the title for his future bio-pic.

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"What the hell was that all about? We've got enough problems with South Korea with trade, on top of it they give them the best movie of the year?" he asked.
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« Reply #60793 on: February 21, 2020, 01:59:49 pm »
Yeah. Problems with South Korea but up North it's all roses and wine with Trump's best buddy.
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« Reply #60794 on: February 21, 2020, 05:24:23 pm »
Trump upset that someone stole the title for his future bio-pic.


The real reason he didn't watch Parasite was that it would involve reading.  I agree with Sam Bee in that he's basically functionally literate, but only just.

Meanwhile he's been retweeting Peter Tatchell today and not in a snarky way. Wasn't expecting that.
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« Reply #60795 on: February 21, 2020, 05:55:43 pm »
The real reason he didn't watch Parasite was that it would involve reading.  I agree with Sam Bee in that he's basically functionally literate, but only just.

Meanwhile he's been retweeting Peter Tatchell today and not in a snarky way. Wasn't expecting that.
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« Reply #60796 on: February 21, 2020, 09:26:21 pm »
Trump upset that someone stole the title for his future bio-pic.

I saw the clip of that last night. He's a fucking moron. Although obviously not the biggest one in the vicinity. His supporters are genuinely thick people. It's fucking scary, actually. They hung onto everything he said, and were cheering and nodding along.

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« Reply #60797 on: February 22, 2020, 12:31:13 am »
I saw the clip of that last night. He's a fucking moron. Although obviously not the biggest one in the vicinity. His supporters are genuinely thick people. It's fucking scary, actually. They hung onto everything he said, and were cheering and nodding along.

That's where we are. Trump has polarized everything. It's what he does. Either you are with him or you're against him. So people pick sides. Those who support Trump stand by every stupid thing he says and does. They are blind. Unfortunately people who are against Trump often fall in the same trap. They oppose everything he says. If he changes his mind, so do they. Trump is a dreadful and dangerous person and it's vital that people think for themselves and don't accept the pro/anti Trump mindset as the only option.

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« Reply #60798 on: February 22, 2020, 02:41:18 pm »
The real reason he didn't watch Parasite was that it would involve reading. 
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« Reply #60799 on: February 22, 2020, 05:05:59 pm »
Los Angeles Times
Trump has flipped the 9th Circuit — and some new judges are causing a 'shock wave'
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When President Trump ticks off his accomplishments since taking office, he frequently mentions his aggressive makeover of a key sector of the federal judiciary — the circuit courts of appeal, where he has appointed 51 judges to lifetime jobs in three years.

In few places has the effect been felt more powerfully than in the sprawling 9th Circuit, which covers California and eight other states. Because of Trump's success in filling vacancies, the San Francisco-based circuit, long dominated by Democratic appointees, has suddenly shifted to the right, with an even more pronounced tilt expected in the years ahead.

Trump has now named 10 judges to the 9th Circuit — more than one-third of its active judges — compared with seven appointed by President Obama over eight years.

"Trump has effectively flipped the circuit," said 9th Circuit Judge Milan D. Smith Jr., an appointee of President George W. Bush.

To assess the early impact of these appointments, The Times interviewed several judges on the 9th Circuit. Some either declined to discuss their colleagues or inner deliberations or refused to be quoted by name, saying they were not authorized to speak about what goes on behind the scenes.

To be sure, some of the new appointees to the 9th Circuit have quickly won the respect of their colleagues. But the rapid influx of so many judges — most without judicial experience — has put strains upon the court and stirred criticism among judges appointed by both Democratic and Republican presidents.

"Ten new people at once sends a shock wave through the system," a 9th Circuit judge said.

Among those who have caused the most consternation is Judge Daniel P. Collins, a former federal prosecutor and partner of a prestigious law firm.

Some judges said that in the early months of his tenure, Collins has appeared oblivious to court tradition. He has sent memos at all times of the night in violation of a court rule and objected to other judges' rulings in language that some colleagues found combative, they said.

Collins also moved quickly to challenge rulings by his new colleagues, calling for review of five decisions by three-judge panels, and some of the calls came before Collins even had been assigned to his first panel, judges said.

Active judges vote on the calls behind the scenes, and the public becomes aware of a failed effort only when dissents are later filed by the judges who favored reconsideration. Judges said it was unprecedented for a new jurist to try to overturn so many decisions in such a short period of time. The court has so far rejected most of Collins' calls.

"Collins has definitely bulldozed his way around here already in a short time," one 9th Circuit judge said. "Either he doesn't care or doesn't realize that he has offended half the court already."

Collins did not respond to a request for an interview.

Democratic appointees still make up the majority of active judges — 16 to 13. But the court also has judges on "senior status" who continue to sit on panels that decide cases. Senior status rank gives judges more flexibility but allows them to continue to work, even full time.

Of the senior judges who will be deciding cases on "merits" panels — reading briefs and issuing rulings — 10 are Republicans and only three are Democratic appointees, Smith said.

"You will see a sea change in the 9th Circuit on day-to-day decisions," Smith predicted.

The biggest change will come in controversial cases that test the constitutionality of laws and the legal ability of presidents to establish contentious new rules. The 9th Circuit is weighing challenges to Trump on a wide array of issues, from immigration to reproductive rights, and the rightward tilt is likely to make it easier for the president to prevail.

Only two of the 9th Circuit appointees have prior judicial experience — Bridget S. Bade and Danielle Hunsaker. They also are the only women among the court's new judges. Three are Asian Americans — one an openly gay man who has two children with his husband. The other five are white men. Several went to the nation's top universities.

The American Bar Assn. rated six of the 10, including Collins, "well qualified," the group's highest rating for circuit judge candidates. Three received the lower "qualified" rating, and one, Lawrence VanDyke, was found to be "not qualified."

Though conservative, the Trump appointees to the 9th Circuit are not monolithic. Two Trump appointees — Bade, a former federal court magistrate, and Mark J. Bennett, a former attorney general of Hawaii — are regarded by their colleagues as experienced and collegial.

Trump appointee Eric D. Miller also has drawn positive reviews from both Democratic and Republican appointees. Before his appointment, Miller headed up the appellate division of a major law firm.

"I think he will be a good judge," a 9th Circuit veteran said.

But Trump appointee Judge Ryan D. Nelson rattled other members of the court when he suggested during a hearing in August that the 9th Circuit remove a respected San Francisco district judge, Edward M. Chen, from a case. The 9th Circuit rarely takes cases away from district judges and only in extreme situations.

Chen, a former ACLU lawyer, was serving as a federal magistrate when Obama elevated him to the district court. Nelson complained about him during a hearing on a case in which Chen imposed an injunction on a Trump plan to take away protected status from many immigrants.

"You can reverse Ed Chen from time to time, but to suggest from the bench that are you are going to reassign" a case is "off the reservation," one longtime 9th Circuit judge said. "Ed is an extremely well respected judge."

Another veteran called Nelson's suggestion "beginner stuff."

"When he is in a china shop, he doesn't walk around with caution," the judge said.

Nelson, an Idaho lawyer who worked as general counsel for a wellness consumer goods company, did not respond to a request for comment.

Ninth Circuit Judge Kim McLane Wardlaw, a Clinton appointee, noted that most of the Trump appointees are still in transition, with the heat of the political process of Senate confirmation not far behind them. She said she was optimistic the 9th Circuit would continue to be collegial.

Another judge predicted that even the hard-charging Collins, educated at Harvard and Stanford, "will mellow."

"I think he will be fine, though he will never be a go-along-get-along guy," the judge said.

The behind-the-scenes tensions over Collins spilled into public last month in an order rejecting a call, presumably made by Collins, to reconsider a panel's decision. The panel had upheld a lower court's ruling in favor of suppressing evidence from a tribal officer's search of a vehicle on a public highway. The highway ran through tribal land.

Collins, dissenting from the court's refusal to reconsider, was joined by three judges, two Trump appointees and one appointed by President George W. Bush.

Collins called the panel's decision "deeply flawed," "plagued" by legal error and marked by "confused analysis."

Two Democratic appointees whose ruling Collins wanted reversed wrote that even in the genre of such dissents, Collins' was was an "outlier."

"It misrepresents the legal context of this case and wildly exaggerates the purported consequences of the panel opinion," wrote Judge Marsha S. Berzon, a Clinton appointee, and Judge Andrew D. Hurwitz, an Obama appointee.

"This case involves an unusual factual scenario and a technical issue of Indian tribal authority," they said. "It certainly does not present a 'question of exceptional importance' meriting en banc consideration."

The 9th Circuit court has been dominated by Democratic appointees for decades. In 1978, a federal law created 10 new judgeships on the court, allowing President Carter to fill them all. The liberal Carter appointees were followed by judges named by three Republican presidents and two Democrats.

Clinton's and Obama's appointees were not uniformly liberal, however, and the 9th Circuit has been growing more moderate. One study, examining the years 2010 to 2015, found that the 9th Circuit was the third most reversed by the Supreme Court, following the Ohio-based 6th and Georgia-based 11th circuits.

Still, with Democratic nominees heavily outnumbering Republicans, there were usually enough votes to overturn conservative decisions by three-judge panels.

Smith predicted the full effect of the Trump appointees won't be seen until 2021, when they will be carrying full caseloads.

But even now Democratic appointees are likely to be more reluctant to ask for 11-judge panels to review conservative decisions because the larger en banc panels, chosen randomly, might be dominated by Republicans, judges said.

That happened in July after a panel of the three Republican appointees upheld a Trump ruling denying federal family planning funds to clinics that referred women for abortions. A Democratic appointee called for en banc review, and a majority voted in favor. But the randomly selected 11-member panel had a majority of Republican appointees, including two named by Trump.

The 9th Circuit is by far the largest in the federal appeals court in the nation, and its judges are scattered over nine states.

Some judges elect to work alone with their staffs in offices or courthouses near their homes. Most 9th Circuit veterans have yet to have had any experience with the new appointees, and it could take years before they serve on a panel with each of them.

Trump appointed the successors to the late Judges Stephen Reinhardt and Harry Pregerson, two of the most liberal circuit judges in the nation and filled other slots created by Republicans who opted to take senior status.

The new appointees include Patrick Bumatay, the openly gay former prosecutor, and Daniel A. Bress, a former partner at the Washington, D.C., office of Kirkland & Ellis. The ABA rated both qualified. During a hearing in January on challenges to Trump's immigration policies, Bress appeared ready to side with Trump.

The others are Kenneth Kiyul Lee, a partner in the Los Angeles office of Jenner & Block LLP, who received a well-qualified rating and VanDyke, a former solicitor general of Nevada and a federal deputy assistant attorney general.

In rating VanDyke unqualified for the job, the ABA wrote: "Mr. VanDyke is arrogant, lazy, an ideologue, and lacking in knowledge of the day-to-day practice, including procedural rules." VanDyke cried during his confirmation hearing when attempting to rebut criticism that he might be unfair to the LGBTQ community.

Trump's rapid transformation of the circuit courts — three others went from a majority of active judges appointed by Democrats to Republican majorities — was accomplished with the support of Senate Republicans.

Nominations of appellate judges may no longer be blocked by filibuster, and Republican Senate leaders have declined under Trump to follow the practice of allowing an appointee's home-state senators to veto the president's choice.

"Trump has set all records for the number of appellate appointees," said University of Richmond law Professor Carl Tobias.

The federal appeals courts are just one rung below the Supreme Court, and federal judges serve for life.

Though some 9th Circuit veterans expressed unease at the inexperience of some of the new judges, 9th Circuit Judge Consuelo Callahan said they would grow into the job.

"Both President Obama and President Trump appointed quite a few young people with really exceptional credentials, but not necessarily judicial experience," said Callahan, appointed by President George W. Bush.

Four of Obama's seven appointees had been judges.

"You have to learn to be a judge," Callahan said.

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