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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #960 on: October 26, 2015, 01:47:24 pm »
Loved Moreno's tackle as good as a goal that for me
Moreno had a very un-Moreno game, very good defensively but poor in the final third.

Lallana set him up with a nice reverse pass that put him through on goal but he thrashed wildly at the ball and later he had a chance to square the ball to Lallana who was in the middle of the goal but he hit it far too hard and behind him.

And then he makes that goal saving tackle......................
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #961 on: October 26, 2015, 01:50:37 pm »
Insanity abounds from too many. It's three, that's 3 games into Klopps tenure. Not one manager that has ever existed could be expected to turn a team round in 3 games, nor should they.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #962 on: October 26, 2015, 01:54:02 pm »
A reliable defence and midfield is what virtually every successful coach starts their tenure with. The talk about Rodgers was that he could bring about a revolutionary paradigm that would break with this orthodoxy. I disagreed, as I believed that there was a reason why this was the orthodoxy. If you can get the orthodox basics right, there will be a baseline to return to whatever happens. With the squad he has, there's not much else Klopp can do right now anyway.

Agreed, Rodgers was attack first, everything else later. It worked for one season where we had that level of attack needed, when it failed everything else came apart. Most managers who build a good team start at the back and work from there. We've had all our defenders available apart from Gomez who, while he was doing fantastic this season, I doubt anyone thought before the season started, he would be an integral part of our squad.

Klopp in the short space he's been here has made us defensively hard to beat, something we haven't been for quite a while. It's a great place to start and build on from there.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #963 on: October 26, 2015, 02:01:49 pm »
I wonder what the mood in here would be like had the goals happened the other way around, with Southampton goal coming first and us equalising with a few to go?

Performance the same, result the same......






 
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #964 on: October 26, 2015, 02:06:07 pm »


Klopp in the short space he's been here has made us defensively hard to beat, something we haven't been for quite a while. It's a great place to start and build on from there.

To be fair, we were hard to beat this season before Klopp arrived. A shock loss at home to West Ham and a surrender at Manu being the only loses before Klopp arrived.

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #965 on: October 26, 2015, 02:08:01 pm »
More tools in here than the Black and Decker distribution warehouse....
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #966 on: October 26, 2015, 02:15:30 pm »
I spent the hours after the game last night trying to preach patience to a couple of red mates who seem to have made up their minds about most of the players and what the new manager can achieve with them.

According to these 2 all the players are shite and will not improve under the new manager so we may as well bin them all now. I give up, honestly.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #967 on: October 26, 2015, 02:22:16 pm »
Only 2 years and 11 months left, to get this right Jurgen lad.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #968 on: October 26, 2015, 02:28:00 pm »
I spent the hours after the game last night trying to preach patience to a couple of red mates who seem to have made up their minds about most of the players and what the new manager can achieve with them.

According to these 2 all the players are shite and will not improve under the new manager so we may as well bin them all now. I give up, honestly.

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #969 on: October 26, 2015, 02:28:23 pm »
Only 2 years and 11 months left, to get this right Jurgen lad.

He'll be doing well if he gets that long from the vultures on here.
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« Reply #970 on: October 26, 2015, 02:30:33 pm »
To be fair, we were hard to beat this season before Klopp arrived. A shock loss at home to West Ham and a surrender at Manu being the only loses before Klopp arrived.
Yes but we were only hard to beat with 3 at the back before Klopp. (Excluding first 3 league games)

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #971 on: October 26, 2015, 02:32:28 pm »
Was actually impressed with our passing in comparison with the Spurs game, we looked much better in attack. Unfortunately we still couldn't manage to score more than 1 goal and yet again it cost us.

Firmino and Benteke returning and our tough run of fixtures nearing an end are helping to give me at least a little optimism still this season. Who knows our 100k + per weekstriker might certify himself fit to actually play a few games this season also.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #972 on: October 26, 2015, 02:32:38 pm »
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #973 on: October 26, 2015, 02:32:50 pm »
To be fair, we were hard to beat this season before Klopp arrived. A shock loss at home to West Ham and a surrender at Manu being the only loses before Klopp arrived.

Results wise yes, but right now I feel we're defensively working as a group , whereas before not so much.

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #974 on: October 26, 2015, 02:34:37 pm »
It´s really sad to see so many people looking for scapegoats again. Milner, Coutinho, Divock, Can, I even see Lucas, Moreno and Lallana taking a lot of it despite being in the top performers every game since Klopp joined.

Try to just calm the fuck down and stop acting like a bunch of twats. For the past 18 months the players have been coached to play a slow tempo and use 1 v 1 skills to unlock defences. No idea why but you seen in every single game. We plod up to the edge of the box, then just fuck around waiting for a moment of individual brilliance to get us a goal. Unfortunately there wasn´t enough individual brilliance and so Rodgers was sacked.

Now all the players who were tasked with doing this (Lallana, Coutinho, Ibe etc) have all been in poor form, all slow down our attacks and all hold the ball way too long. You can´t just flick a switch and expect them to instantly play quick, 1 touch football. Also players who are new to the club like Milner, Firmino etc are/were trying to play a quicker tempo but because they were on a different wave length to their new team mates, they struggled. Players like Markovic who refused to adapt to the way ROdgers wanted were shipped out. Yet seem exactly what we need now. Players who want to play a quick, direct, incisive way. Lots of 1-2´s etc.

So we are were we are. Klopp is focusing more on shape and pressing and therefore hasn´t set aside much time to dealing with out ponderous attacking play carried over from the Rodgers era. He will though but it just takes time and patience. Two things our fan base doesn´t seem to have. It also will need us to not react like little bitches every time we don´t win a game. Something which seems impossible for a lot of RAWK.

I think you are spot on here, mate. On the bolded bit, I think Klopp is right to start with our defensive game. Our defense has suddenly become much tougher to score against in open play. Even Skrtel's positioning isn't awful like it has been. It is probably closer to acceptable now, even if it's not as good as the rest of the back line. We're also winning the ball back higher and higher up the pitch and the midfield isn't a soft touch against the counter. No one is just roaming through the midfield at will! I don't think that can be emphasized enough. We've become solid in midfield and at the back in three fucking games under Klopp, and that is progress.

If we can concede an average of a goal per game in the PL for the rest of the season, we'll probably secure a Europa League spot and contended for the top four, irrespective of what we think about our goal scoring right now. If we can get it down to 35 goals conceded or less for the season, we have a 95% chance of making the top four (based on the number of goals conceded by top 4 finishers over the last ten years). Our defense looks capable of it under Klopp with a little extra work on set pieces. I think the fan base sometimes underestimates how important good defense can be. 11 goals conceded in 10 games with our tough start is quite impressive, and the players deserve more credit than they've received considering how little emphasis Rodgers put on defense.

I agree that the goals will come as the players learn to attack as a team, rather than as individuals, but we'll still be competitive with a solid midfield and defense. My prediction is that the rest of the season will be ugly, with better attacking play in the second half of the season, but effective football nonetheless. Klopp know what he is doing. I think it's just unfortunate that the shadow of the 2013/14 season still hangs over the squad.

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #975 on: October 26, 2015, 02:43:04 pm »
The players have to learn coolness and the fans have to learn patience. Simple as.

What's past is done. We have a management in place who know what they are doing. When you see methods being applied and progression, that is all you can ask for. Every player in round holes and answers being sought for the problems we've got.

There is no point having a dig at anyone. Look at a player like Adam Lallana. Trying his best to do what the coach wants. Now he may not make it, he may not be quite what we need but that's it, we have to wait and see.

Phil Coutinho is a player with a lot of talent. Again no point digging at him, he needs time to absorb his new bosses training and also to build a relationship with new players. If Phil's form is dependent on Daniel Sturridge being fit, then we'd better change that. Being realistic.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #976 on: October 26, 2015, 02:56:14 pm »
It seems that all, or most, of the work on the training pitch is probably defensive the first week or so.  It's probably why the attack still looks a lot like it did with Rodgers in charge.  Give him a couple more weeks and we'll start to see some changes in our attacking patterns and overall play. 

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #977 on: October 26, 2015, 03:09:03 pm »
I'm tellin' y'all, with the way we are improving, we are just a fit Benteke/Sturridge away from going on a winning run. My bet would be after Man City away. We will be alright. Believe me.

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #978 on: October 26, 2015, 03:32:13 pm »
Was actually impressed with our passing in comparison with the Spurs game, we looked much better in attack. Unfortunately we still couldn't manage to score more than 1 goal and yet again it cost us.

Firmino and Benteke returning and our tough run of fixtures nearing an end are helping to give me at least a little optimism still this season. Who knows our 100k + per weekstriker might certify himself fit to actually play a few games this season also.

Agree - the passing looked much slicker and more accurate than we've seen for a long time.

Very definitely green shoots there.

Everyone is agreed that the final third (without Benteke/Sturridge/Ings) needs a lot of work - there was one point when Can (can't remember exactly when) took the ball all the way up to the left front corner of the opposition box and then....just.....stopped.

Looked like he didn't know where he was and what he was supposed to do with this round thing at his feet...I burst out laughing

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #979 on: October 26, 2015, 03:34:26 pm »
I'm tellin' y'all, with the way we are improving, we are just a fit Benteke/Sturridge away from going on a winning run. My bet would be after Man City away. We will be alright. Believe me.

Yep - they're both experienced and talented enough to score those goals we need (as we saw yesterday)

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #980 on: October 26, 2015, 03:36:52 pm »
Agree - the passing looked much slicker and more accurate than we've seen for a long time.

Very definitely green shoots there.

Everyone is agreed that the final third (without Benteke/Sturridge/Ings) needs a lot of work - there was one point when Can (can't remember exactly when) took the ball all the way up to the left front corner of the opposition box and then....just.....stopped.

Looked like he didn't know where he was and what he was supposed to do with this round thing at his feet...I burst out laughing

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Not only that but his brain just completely stopped working in the last 15-20 minutes. :D
 
He just didn't know what to do with the ball whenever he won it. Lost it multiple times as well. He was probably exhausted with all the gengenpressing he had done in the last week. He has been our best gegenpresser in the Klopp era so far.

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #981 on: October 26, 2015, 03:56:14 pm »
Not only that but his brain just completely stopped working in the last 15-20 minutes. :D

He just didn't know what to do with the ball whenever he won it. Lost it multiple times as well. He was probably exhausted with all the gengenpressing he had done in the last week. He has been our best gegenpresser in the Klopp era so far.

You're absolutely correct.  That's down to fatigue.  Hopefully there will be quite a few changes for Wednesday's game so we are ready for the weekend. 

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #982 on: October 26, 2015, 04:09:35 pm »
I'm a big fan of Klopp, and concur with the general consensus that it's way too early to expect the team to morph into one looking like potential title contenders overnight.

But some otherwise fair and considered posts make what I think are unfounded assumptions about the teams BR put out. It might be the case that Brendan Rodgers abandoned the rapid-transition style he employed with the front three of Sturridge, Suarez and Sterling for a slower, more deliberate style. It certainly looked that way, but that might have simply been the product of a number of other factors - we simply don't know.

The same goes for assumptions about BR's supposed lack of emphasis and work on defensive shape; it would appear there wasn't sufficient emphasis on those things, but it's speculation. For all we know, BR and his coaches did attempt to improve our obvious weaknesses, but was thwarted by injuries, loss of form and confidence, and perhaps a sense amongst the players that he'd lost the plot.

That's speculation on my part, and that's all it is elsewhere.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #983 on: October 26, 2015, 04:13:18 pm »
I'm tellin' y'all, with the way we are improving, we are just a fit Benteke/Sturridge away from going on a winning run. My bet would be after Man City away. We will be alright. Believe me.

As much as i'm pissed off about our attacking play for what seems like forever i've no doubt we'll be alright. Whether it be this season, next or the one after. Klopp's a world class manager. We aren't going to attract any better. Everyone just needs the bottle to stick with it.

We all knew our fixtures the first 3 months were tough. Didn't matter who the manager was. But by the time Benteke, Firmino, Sturridge(hopefully) and Hendo are back and firing we'll have already played the toughest 6 matches of the season. That should allow us to go on some pretty good runs of form from December onwards.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #984 on: October 26, 2015, 04:24:04 pm »
I know Klopp said not to focus on the goal but what other top team would let in a goal like that with a 1-0 lead?

We need a goalkeeper who can command his penalty box and organise a defence at set pieces. It was like a comedy sketch.
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« Reply #985 on: October 26, 2015, 04:24:30 pm »
All complete speculation. Performances, tactical decision, and results were crumbling under Rodgers towards the end. We'd given him enormous money to spend, and now it is clearer than ever that the greatest deficiency in the team is the quality of the players. Klopp will be given time to build a team at the very least.

As far as we know Klopp was brought in to arrest the decline under Rodgers (why draw it out when it was clear our long-term future with Rodgers was going nowhere near top 4), and for us to secure Klopp before Chelsea got trigger happy.

All pure speculation as you said as you stretched it even more as for a club to sack a manager in fear another prospect may be picked up would be scandalous ownership. Just like Brendan, Klopp will have to deal with the transfer committee policies and lets see if Jurgen will be 4 points short (that's where we were when Rodgers was fired) of the top 4 by season's end and have the team playing better. That's the hope of the owners which is why they have given him the bulk of the season to play with and they must feel the quality is still there in the team as they are the ones who brought them in.


What a load of shite The reason they sacked Rodgers was not only down to league position. The team was still playing as poorly as the end of last season. Rodgers hadn't rectified any of the issues that were already there, and ultimately paid the price for it. He might well have had longer if Klopp hadn't become available, but he didn't give the owners any reason to not make the decision.

Klopp said himself he can't make miracles happen. It's going to take time for him to rectify many of the issues plaguing the team currently and it could well cost us a real shot at the top 4. You and others need to accept that it's a more likely possibility. A lot of the damage was done before the season even started, now it's just how quickly can we repair ourselves.

As I said above the owners have goals that are probably as unrealistic as they want Klopp to challenge with the quality they brought in via the committee. The materials are there supposedly but Brendan was not up to the job to mould potential into a top 4 challenge and I personally think they want it this season. We should all give him time but if the team continues to underperform this season then there will be a black mark against Jurgen so if his team does not do it for sure next season then the pressure will be on. Honestly these days if you gave the fans a title and fall flat on your face the next season then you are pretty much out. Sad state of affairs which is why I don't think we deserve much these days as many a supporter does not have the faith to stay steady when the shit hits the fan. The average supporter is a good weather fan and so quick to bitch that the result is not even dry on the paper before they are on here putting their foot in.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #986 on: October 26, 2015, 04:35:07 pm »
Klopp's a world class manager. We aren't going to attract any better. Everyone just needs the bottle to stick with it.


Absolutely crucial, if we blow this one we're done as a top team, this is an unbelievable chance to return to our perch, we must be patient. 
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« Reply #987 on: October 26, 2015, 04:47:19 pm »
All pure speculation as you said as you stretched it even more as for a club to sack a manager in fear another prospect may be picked up would be scandalous ownership. Just like Brendan, Klopp will have to deal with the transfer committee policies and lets see if Jurgen will be 4 points short (that's where we were when Rodgers was fired) of the top 4 by season's end and have the team playing better. That's the hope of the owners which is why they have given him the bulk of the season to play with and they must feel the quality is still there in the team as they are the ones who brought them in.


As I said above the owners have goals that are probably as unrealistic as they want Klopp to challenge with the quality they brought in via the committee. The materials are there supposedly but Brendan was not up to the job to mould potential into a top 4 challenge and I personally think they want it this season. We should all give him time but if the team continues to underperform this season then there will be a black mark against Jurgen so if his team does not do it for sure next season then the pressure will be on. Honestly these days if you gave the fans a title and fall flat on your face the next season then you are pretty much out. Sad state of affairs which is why I don't think we deserve much these days as many a supporter does not have the faith to stay steady when the shit hits the fan. The average supporter is a good weather fan and so quick to bitch that the result is not even dry on the paper before they are on here putting their foot in.
Pressure on and a black mark from who exactly? Rodgers was not fired because the fans wanted him out, he was fired because FSG wanted him out - and they could bring in their number 1 target of their whole tenure owning the club. That is the only reason why he was not brought in over the summer, because he was still on his sabbatical. 

Sure they may want to get Top 4 this year, but with how long FSG chased Klopp, he is going to get at least the amount of time Rodgers got here, and probably even more when they look at the time it took to mould his Dortmund team into what they were. People talk about FSG being impatient, but no, now that they have their man, they have all the patience in the world. 

Personally, I find it ridiculous you are even mentioning something like a "black mark" three games into a World Class Manager's tenure here.
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« Reply #988 on: October 26, 2015, 04:47:56 pm »
:o

Fuck about.

So you think the owners will say well done if we still suffer in midtable all season? All I am saying is jurgen will lose a wee bit of faith if that happens and if that continues next season too then watch out for the pressure to be piled on. Fickle fans & fickled ownership means there is no more 5 year plans on a table but 3 year contracts. Obviously someone is expecting some serious goals to be delivered by 2018.

and for god sake where am I saying there is pressure or a black mark after three games?
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #989 on: October 26, 2015, 04:53:54 pm »
FFS where is all this speculation and looking ahead coming from? Chill, relax, be patient etc as the man himself says.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #990 on: October 26, 2015, 04:58:30 pm »
and for god sake where am I saying there is pressure or a black mark after three games?

Because after 3 games you're saying "IF...", then he'll be under pressure (though not from you, but everyone else apparently). Well, naturally. If he gets us relegated, he'll be under pressure. But some IFs are bigger than others and none need stating at this stage.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #991 on: October 26, 2015, 04:58:50 pm »
Absolutely crucial, if we blow this one we're done as a top team, this is an unbelievable chance to return to our perch, we must be patient. 

And that is the hope as they have the best manager we could possible get right now and hopefully he can attract top class players that we need to win titles. I see suggestions we need to ship 10 players out in the next two windows but its the 3 or 4 class acts we should bring in that will make or break us in the next 2 or 3 years.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #992 on: October 26, 2015, 04:59:06 pm »
So you think the owners will say well done if we still suffer in midtable all season? All I am saying is jurgen will lose a wee bit of faith if that happens and if that continues next season too then watch out for the pressure to be piled on. Fickle fans & fickled ownership means there is no more 5 year plans on a table but 3 year contracts. Obviously someone is expecting some serious goals to be delivered by 2018.

and for god sake where am I saying there is pressure or a black mark after three games?

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #993 on: October 26, 2015, 05:02:53 pm »
Because after 3 games you're saying "IF...", then he'll be under pressure (though not from you, but everyone else apparently). Well, naturally. If he gets us relegated, he'll be under pressure. But some IFs are bigger than others and none need stating at this stage.


Lets leave it at this, Jurgen jokingly suggested he be in Switzerland in a few years time if he does not deliver some honours for LFC. That is the standard goal for this club and I am delighted he has stated that one.

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #994 on: October 26, 2015, 05:08:08 pm »
So you think the owners will say well done if we still suffer in midtable all season? All I am saying is jurgen will lose a wee bit of faith if that happens and if that continues next season too then watch out for the pressure to be piled on. Fickle fans & fickled ownership means there is no more 5 year plans on a table but 3 year contracts. Obviously someone is expecting some serious goals to be delivered by 2018.

and for god sake where am I saying there is pressure or a black mark after three games?

Midtable doesn't matter if we build correctly and challenge next season.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #995 on: October 26, 2015, 05:10:39 pm »
Absolutely crucial, if we blow this one we're done as a top team, this is an unbelievable chance to return to our perch, we must be patient. 

We must also invest

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #996 on: October 26, 2015, 05:13:54 pm »
I find it hard to talk about Rodgers as I'm still so angry with him. For what it's worth I don't think the players are that bad but what we're looking at is Rodgers legacy after 3 years of coaching and education; a confused, mentally fragile team with no confidence or heart and virtually no leaders on the pitch or in the squad. It's going to take Klopp a while to unpick this mess and I'm just grateful he's agreed to try.

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #997 on: October 26, 2015, 05:14:19 pm »
Midtable doesn't matter if we build correctly and challenge next season.

Exactly. All but relegation (which will not happen) is fine for this season.
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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #998 on: October 26, 2015, 05:32:15 pm »
Real shame we couldn't hold on. I thought we just about deserved the three points.

Coutinho was poor yesterday; gave the ball away for fun in the first half. Regarding some of the OrigI comparisons, I think it's deeply unfair on Origi to compare him with David fucking N'gog so early in his Anfield days. Hopefully he'll improve, it's still early days.

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Re: Liverpool FC 1-1 Southampton FT
« Reply #999 on: October 26, 2015, 05:34:04 pm »
Doesn't matter at all. This season can be totally written off and I'm not in the least bit arsed.

To be honest, I'm of the view if Klopp can't do this job no one can, so we all need to be very patient. We have a properly world class, proven, manager for the first time in more than 5 years. He deserves all the time, patience and understanding that the last world class manager at LFC never got.

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