Topic: All Time PL Draft - With a Twist! (Discussion Thread & Sign up)

[Sarge]

I will check in in the morning

[Lastrador]

Ok, I won’t volunteer then

Thoughts on Harry Kewell anyone (I’m very needy!)...He was class at Leeds and also in spells for us but obviously we didn’t see the best of him. Rafa always picked him when fit.

Those couple of seasons at Leeds from around 99-02 he was superb though.

Probably my favourite non-Liverpool player playing in the league at that time, and the signing till this day I was most excited about. He was so fast and skilful, yet so technical and with a fabulous left foot. The goal he scored against Arsenal in his last season at Leeds is one of my favourite Premier League era goals.

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[Lastrador]

I'm saying I reckon his best football was with us, mate. He was a vital component of a cracking team. On an individual level, he'd been around. Fitted us like a glove. Take him out of that he was about Leeds at best

I don't know that to be true mate. In his pomp at Leeds, he was the heart of a league winning side and generally considered one of the best midfielders around, making two PFA teams of the year (which is no easy feat). He had a renaissance with us, and was obviously magnificent, but he was at the tail end of his career playing more a savvy veteran role around some energetic young guns like Gerrard and Hamman, who did all the running he couldn't do. Steve played a similar role alongside Hendo in the 13/14 season, and he was also greatly influential, but that wasn't the best version of Gerrard. It's a testament to Gary Mc talents, that he could come at such a stage of his career at a massive club, and be as influential as he was.

[Lawnmowerman]

Mille didn't play CM for Villa and was a largely inadequate right winger due to a lack of pace. I considered it but I'm not going to put him on the right side.

sweet baby Jesus. Millzer will be judged across his whole pl career. Stop with this madness!

It's why petrescu getting picked for Wednesday is a cracking pick!!

[Lawnmowerman]

Ok, I won’t volunteer then

Thoughts on Harry Kewell anyone (I’m very needy!)...He was class at Leeds and also in spells for us but obviously we didn’t see the best of him. Rafa always picked him when fit.

Those couple of seasons at Leeds from around 99-02 he was superb though.

always thought his bird was overrated

[Crosby Nick]

always thought his bird was overrated

Haha. The glamour of Leeds meant he had the kick of the Emmerdale crop to work with. Had he waited til he moved to Liverpool he’d have had the Brookside/Hollyoaks pool to fish in.

Petrescu is a stalwart of these drafts for me and I applaud Tubby’s pic to back it up.

[tubby]

Petrescu is a stalwart of these drafts for me and I applaud Tubby’s pic to back it up.

Obligatory.

[XabiArt]

Can we have an updated selection list please?

              X
X      X    Carvalho Cole
       Keane      X
Ronaldo Eriksen      X
               X

Not bad.

[Drinks Sangria]

James Milner most certainly did play CM for Villa, in a 2 with Barry, with Downing on the left and Young on the right (switching at times), as the player with more responsibility on the ball. I'd actually argue that his best football came at Villa, or maybe City at a push. Reo-Coker and Albrighton used to swap in when they went more attacking.

When they went more defensive, they'd line up with a 5 in midfield, Carew alone up front with Young and Reo-Coker wide to support, with Milner and Sidwell in front of Petrov, as they did when they beat us 3-1 at Anfield in 2009.

As he has been everywhere, Millie was a swiss-army knife for O'Neill at Villa and during his time there, played CM, RB, CDM, CAM, LM, RM and RW. He was shunted about everywhere - WhoScored first season of tracking positions was 2009, when Milner played 36 times, 19 times in CM and then the rest split amongst the above positions.

Harry Kewell was immense at Leeds, one of the best wingers in the division and my fevered 11 year old mind thought that he'd transform us into title winners. As a child he was the most excited I ever got for a Liverpool transfer (maybe Cisse despite never having seen him play other than against us in the UEFA Cup). The Firmino transfer might have trumped that, if only for when that mad video done in the Team Fortress engine came out.

[El Lobo]

XXXX
XXXX  XXXX  XXXX  XXXX
Essien Milner
Sterling                 Mane
    Bergkamp
  XXXX

Happy enough with that. Now just to fill the gaps with Babb, Ruddock and their ilk.

[Drinks Sangria]

Does Sarge not need to pick two?

[Crosby Nick]

Nice Lobo.

Sarge has done well again the fucker. Trent is a great pick, if I had my time again I might have gone for him.

Not sure whether to go

Back 4 (Desailly picked) and then:

Masch.  Fabregas

Xx.      Xx.    Kewell

Aguero

Or a 433 with Kewell left because he’d get enough goals to justify being in the front three.

Or old fashioned 442.

Depends if people think Masch and Fab would fine as a pair, or do you reckon one more midfielder is needed there to really dominate?

[El Lobo]

Does Sarge not need to pick two?

Nah we've got the rogue Philanthropist in there too. But I've got Sarges second pick too

Got to say, its some pretty rank draft organisation this

[Drinks Sangria]

Nice Lobo.

Or a 433 with Kewell left because he’d get enough goals to justify being in the front three.

Or old fashioned 442.

Depends if people think Masch and Fab would fine as a pair, or do you reckon one more midfielder is needed there to really dominate?

I think it depends on who else would make up the 4-2-3-1 or the 4-4-2 - if you've a hard working wide player they're fine as a two, but for me, Fabregas is more of the 10 in the 3 behind the striker, with Masch playing deep with another defensively minded player or pivot type, such as an Alonso, a Huddlestone or a Shelvey 

[Crosby Nick]

Thinking Ian Crooks from Norwich in a nod to the early Premier League era. Or Ian Culverhouse. Or Ian Butterworth.

Basically I want an Ian from Norwich.

[Drinks Sangria]

Thinking Ian Crooks from Norwich in a nod to the early Premier League era. Or Ian Culverhouse. Or Ian Butterworth.

Basically I want an Ian from Norwich.

Culverhouse was in my thinking as a late pick if I couldn't pick up another decent RB.

[El Lobo]

Tremenderson is up now, I'll pick myself at 2

[Sarge]

Thanks.

                        GK
Trent          CB   CB       LB
        Makelele   Scholes
               David Silva
Overmars                 Winger
               Andy Cole

[Crosby Nick]

Tremenderson is up now, I'll pick myself at 2

Which club did you play for?

[Lastrador]

The draft runner has been MIA for a while, isn't he?

[El Lobo]

Which club did you play for?

fucking baubles - A baseball team

[Max_powers]

Robertson at Hull was really bad.

[Crosby Nick]

Robertson at Hull was really bad.

So bad that Mr Jurgen Klopp wanted to sign him?

Have to say Old Man Sarge is smashing it so far.

[Max_powers]

So bad that Mr Jurgen Klopp wanted to sign him?

He had qualities but was not playing at a very good level. His crowning achievement at Hull was getting relegated with one of the worst defensive records in the history of Premier League. That Hull team conceded 80 goals! Although he did play as midfielder often, so not all his fault.

We got him because he was young, the fee was low so it was a low risk signing, not because he was putting in great performance after great performance.

[XabiArt]

Players judged at PL peak, no?

[El Lobo]

He had qualities but was not playing at a very good level.

Well no....he was playing for Hull

But anyway, read the OP. Its not about specific clubs, its their entire PL career.

[Max_powers]

But the other OP says to be judged at club they thrived at most. Hence Salah was picked for Liverpool and not Chelsea. Same with Virgil

[El Lobo]

Exactly, judged at the club they thrived most at. Salah, VVD, Sadio and Robbo all to be judged for Liverpool.

[Max_powers]

Exactly, judged at the club they thrived most at. Salah, VVD, Sadio and Robbo all to be judged for Liverpool.

- Players judged at their time in the PL at the club they thrived at most (Salah at LFC not Chelsea for example)

[tubby]

Yeah so you could pick Salah for Chelsea, but he'll be judged at the PL club he played best for, which is us.

[El Lobo]

Exactly

It doesn't say you have to pick them for the club they thrived at most, but thats how they'll be judged. So you could pick Fowler for Blackburn and he'll be judged on his time at Liverpool.

[Max_powers]

cool

[Lawnmowerman]

Picks:

Lastrador Salah, Eden Hazard, Stam, RVP, McAliister

Drinks Sangria Henry, Fabinho, Ferdinand, King, Lukaku

Lawnmowerman Suarez, Cantona, McGrath, Gilberto, Robben

Max_Powers Shearer, Vardy, Woodgate, Okacha, Fernindinho

Hazell Modric, Yaya Toure, Rooney, Henderson, Ginola

Big Dick Nick Aguero, Fabragas, Mascherano, Desailly, Kewell

vivabobbygraham Gerrard, Drogba, Pires, Kompany, Grealish

Linudden Van Dijk, Lampard, Vidic, Tevez, Barry

Tubby Kante, Alonso, Zola, Campbell, Petrescu, Van Nistleroy

Sheer Magnetism Viera, Kane, Terry, Beardsley, Alderweirald, Beckham

XabiArt Roy Keane, Ronaldo, Carvalho, Ashely Cole, Eriksen, Speed

Adz LFC Fowler, KDB, Son, Ljunberg, Radebe, Irwin

Fucking Appalled Bergkamp, Mane, Sterling, Essien, Milner, Robertson

JordanTre Bale, Mahrez

Sarge Makelele, David Silva, Scholes, Andy Cole, TAA, Overmars

Philanthropist  Le Tissier, Juninho

[Lawnmowerman]

Fecking useless that tremendo fella. I guess him and philanthro are sharing a cabin together and the same wifi...

[Linudden]

I listed the clubs as well as helpful documentation to everybody

Picks:

Players:

Lastrador Salah, Hazard, Stam, van Persie, McAllister, B Silva, Vertonghen

Drinks Sangria Henry, Fabinho, Rio Ferdinand, King, Lukaku, Zabaleta

Lawnmowerman Suárez, Cantona, McGrath, Gilberto, Robben, Tugay

Max_Powers Shearer, Vardy, Woodgate, Okocha, Fernindinho, Walker, Hyypiä

Hazell Modric, Yaya Toure, Rooney, Henderson, Ginola, Baines

Big Dick Nick Agüero, Fàbregas, Mascherano, Desailly, Kewell, Duff

vivabobbygraham Gerrard, Drogba, Pirès, Kompany, Grealish

Linudden Van Dijk, Lampard, Vidic, Tevez, Barry, Les Ferdinand

Tubby Kanté, Alonso, Zola, Campbell, Petrescu, Van Nistelrooy

Sheer Magnetism Vieira, Kane, Terry, Beardsley, Alderweireld, Beckham

XabiArt Roy Keane, Ronaldo, Carvalho, Ashely Cole, Eriksen, Speed

Adz LFC Fowler, De Bruyne, Son, Ljunberg, Radebe, Irwin

Fucking Appalled Bergkamp, Mane, Sterling, Essien, Milner, Robertson

JordanTre Bale, Mahrez

Sarge Makelélé, David Silva, Scholes, Andy Cole, Alexander-Arnold, Overmars

Philanthropist  Le Tissier, Juninho

Teams:

Lastrador Liverpool, Chelsea, Man United, Arsenal, Leeds, Man City, Tottenham

Drinks Sangria Arsenal, Liverpool, Man United, Tottenham, Everton, Man City

Lawnmowerman Liverpool, Man United, Aston Villa, Arsenal, Chelsea, Blackburn

Max_Powers Blackburn, Leicester, Leeds, Bolton, Man City, Tottenham, Liverpool

Hazell Tottenham, Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton

Big Dick Nick Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Leeds, Blackburn

vivabobbygraham Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Aston Villa

Linudden Southampton, West Ham, Man United, Man City, Aston Villa, QPR

Tubby Leicester, Liverpool, Chelsea, Portsmouth, Sheff Wed, Man United

Sheer Magnetism Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, Newcastle, Southampton, Man United

XabiArt Nottm Forest, Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, Everton

Adz LFC Liverpool, Man City, Tottenham, Arsenal, Leeds, Man United

Fucking Appalled Arsenal, Southampton, Man City, Chelsea, Aston Villa, Hull

JordanTre Tottenham, Leicester

Sarge Chelsea, Man City, Man United, Newcastle, Liverpool, Arsenal

Philanthropist Southampton, Middlesbrough

[Adz LFC]

Yeah so you could pick Salah for Chelsea, but he'll be judged at the PL club he played best for, which is us.

Exactly

It doesn't say you have to pick them for the club they thrived at most, but thats how they'll be judged. So you could pick Fowler for Blackburn and he'll be judged on his time at Liverpool.

Nice one, thanks for clarifying

You’ll have to edit your list of clubs when I’ve gone back through my picks Linudden

[tubby]

Yeah as we're all in agreement now, I've marked big Sol down as Portsmouth.

[Linudden]

Virgil has gone on a south coast trip then I've also sent Lampard to West Ham as a result.

Presumably Mané too, Lobo?

Edit, saw he changed that already!

[Crosby Nick]

Bobby probably watches Countdown around this time.

[Lawnmowerman]

Virgil has gone on a south coast trip then I've also sent Lampard to West Ham as a result.

Presumably Mané too, Lobo?

Edit, saw he changed that already!

There's nothing wrong with those picks. Salah at chelsea is a joke pick ffs lads. Atleast don't take the piss