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Slightly Less Mediocre Baron Bennekov · « **Reply #2200 on:** November 30, 2021, 04:31:05 pm »

I haven't been in here since February this year and I couldn't be bothered reading back through the pages, so I'm not aware if this brewery has been mentioned before:

https://arpusbrewing.co/

Latvian brewery which makes crazy good IPA's. I've tried several of their IPA's and none of them were short of being damn good!

Vocation from Manchester, UK is not too bad either but not in the same league as Arpus.

CheshireDave · « **Reply #2201 on:** November 30, 2021, 05:21:24 pm »

Quote from: Slightly Less Mediocre Baron Bennekov on November 30, 2021, 04:31:05 pm

https://arpusbrewing.co/

They sold in shops in the UK anywhere? I want to buy some of that Coffee x Vanilla x Maple Imperial Stout but their site is in Euros and doesn't seem to let me add anything to the cart.

Ziltoid · « **Reply #2202 on:** December 1, 2021, 02:24:54 pm »

Quote from: CheshireDave on November 30, 2021, 05:21:24 pm

They sold in shops in the UK anywhere? I want to buy some of that Coffee x Vanilla x Maple Imperial Stout but their site is in Euros and doesn't seem to let me add anything to the cart.

Just tried. I added one and said add in x12 multiples so i did and said "no". Went to basket and increased to 12 and updated and seemed to work. 50 euros. Not gone further to check shipping/taxes.

Think they are out of stock

Pheeny · « **Reply #2203 on:** December 4, 2021, 08:39:00 pm »

Finally got to try Tynt Meadow, the English Trappist, very nice indeed...

Red-Soldier · « **Reply #2204 on:** December 20, 2021, 12:00:51 pm »

I've just bought myself a bottle of this from Lidl - intrigued by the potential flavour........

https://eaglebrewery.co.uk/beers/banana-bread/

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #2205 on:** December 20, 2021, 02:01:46 pm »

Quote from: Red-Soldier on December 20, 2021, 12:00:51 pm

I've just bought myself a bottle of this from Lidl - intrigued by the potential flavour........

https://eaglebrewery.co.uk/beers/banana-bread/

It's not awful to be fair, I've tried it.

MadErik · « **Reply #2206 on:** December 20, 2021, 02:35:00 pm »

Anyone tried the Guinness Nitro Surge? Seems a bit gimmicky on the face of it...

Slightly Less Mediocre Baron Bennekov · « **Reply #2207 on:** December 20, 2021, 04:13:30 pm »

So...

Anyone her fancy Barrel Aged Imperial Stouts?

This beauty was aged in Rum barrels and is a monster of 17,1%. Hallelujah!!

It's To Øl Yule Malt BA Edition.

It's pitch black, low carbonation, loads of all the malty notes + the boozy sweet notes from the rum barrel. It's a beer for that quiet moment at the end of the evening when the family has left after Christmas Dinner and you have to unwind all by yourself and think about life.

Jookie · « **Reply #2208 on:** December 21, 2021, 04:13:49 pm »

Had a bottle of Fortnum and Mason's Christmas Ale last night. Was nice and not too expensive as a Xmas treat (3.50 a bottle)

filopastry · « **Reply #2209 on:** January 4, 2022, 11:51:09 pm »

I do like a lot of Pale Ales in the UK Craft scene, I tend to go for Verdant, Cloudwater, Neon Raptor, Pressure Drop, Left Handed Giant or maybe Wylam, any other highly recommended craft brewers for Pales that I might be missing out on?

Red_Mist · « **Reply #2210 on:** January 5, 2022, 02:25:18 am »

Quote from: filopastry on January 4, 2022, 11:51:09 pm

I do like a lot of Pale Ales in the UK Craft scene, I tend to go for Verdant, Cloudwater, Neon Raptor, Pressure Drop, Left Handed Giant or maybe Wylam, any other highly recommended craft brewers for Pales that I might be missing out on?

The ones you mention there are all really good filo, and I think the first two you are arguably two of the very best producers of ultra hopped pales in the craft scene. All six are ‘premier league’ imo.

Others that can hold their own with those you mention would be:-

Deya (easily in the same league as Verdant and Cloudwater)
Overtone
Pollys
Pomona Island
Track

There’s others that make very good pales, but they’re more all round great breweries (as opposed to specialising in pales):-

Buxton
Red Willow (try their Perceptionless if you like hoppy pales, it’s incredible)
The Kernel
Burning Sky
Vibrant Forest

Honourable mentions for some others (some of which are readily available in the supermarkets these days):-

North
Northern Monk
Vocation
Brew By Numbers
Howling Hops
Fierce
Wild Horse
Burning Soul
Siren
Pentrich
Burnt Mill
Full Circle

Hedley Lamarr · « **Reply #2211 on:** January 5, 2022, 07:35:07 am »

I live less than 500 yards from Left Handed Giants taproom, and probably 5 minutes walk from their brewpub. Their beers decent, but there are much better Bristol breweries (and I live kind of close to all of them).

New Bristol Brewery - Make some great IPAs but also some of the most interesting stouts going. Kept me sane during lockdown. My favourite brewery.

Wiper And True - Probably the biggest craft brewery in Bristol. A lot of their stuff is session, but every now and then they produce a cracker.

Moors - Started off in Somerset before relocating to Bristol. It's ran by a Californian chap and takes most of it's inspiration from his Californian roots (think Sierra Nevada). Really nice beers, don't recall ever having a bad one.

Lost And Grounded - They do make some cracking IPAs but mainly concentrate on Kellerbier.

Arbor - Don't brew many beers, but each one is great, especially the Shangri-La.

Like I said, all these are within a two mile radius and I'm bang in the middle. There are other breweries in South Bristol, but none are really that great, Bristol Beer Factory is probably the best, they have about four bars including the Arnolfini.

Luckily my local only serves ale from Bristol and the South West so I get try all of them out.

Red_Mist · « **Reply #2212 on:** January 5, 2022, 07:59:32 am »

Had a lot of Arbor and Wiper & True and both excellent.

But I had an impy Stout from Left Handed Giant over xmas that was one of the best beers I’ve ever had - King of the Woodland I think it was called. An incredible beer.

filopastry · « **Reply #2213 on:** January 5, 2022, 10:21:43 am »

Quote from: Red_Mist on January 5, 2022, 02:25:18 am

The ones you mention there are all really good filo, and I think the first two you are arguably two of the very best producers of ultra hopped pales in the craft scene. All six are ‘premier league’ imo.

Others that can hold their own with those you mention would be:-

Deya (easily in the same league as Verdant and Cloudwater)
Overtone
Pollys
Pomona Island
Track

There’s others that make very good pales, but they’re more all round great breweries (as opposed to specialising in pales):-

Buxton
Red Willow (try their Perceptionless if you like hoppy pales, it’s incredible)
The Kernel
Burning Sky
Vibrant Forest

Honourable mentions for some others (some of which are readily available in the supermarkets these days):-

North
Northern Monk
Vocation
Brew By Numbers
Howling Hops
Fierce
Wild Horse
Burning Soul
Siren
Pentrich
Burnt Mill
Full Circle

Somehow I had managed to forget to include Deya, which I do love as well, and Steady Rolling Man may well be my favourite "Core Range" Pale, but thanks for the other recommendations as well, have a few craft beer shops near me so can try a few new ones out as well!

Thanks for the pointers on Bristol breweries as well Hedley!

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #2214 on:** January 17, 2022, 04:49:33 pm »

Anyone watched Beer Masters on Amazon Prime?

Kind of like Bake Off but for beer. There's (I think) 5 teams, all from different countries - England, The Netherlands, Belgium, France and Italy - and each week they're given a different style of beer to go away and brew.

There's some really knowledgeable and interesting guest judges they have on, often master brewers from famous brands and James Blunt as the host is reasonably tolerable. There's a master brewer I can't say I've heard of (she's very knowledgeable though) who makes the 'tasting notes' parts and the technical detail very accessible, not pretentious as it could end up being.

They also visit a few big breweries like Camden (don't rate their Hells Lager much myself) and Stella Artois, which is fairly interesting.

There's some really good looking beers made by the teams and a few disasters, it's a decent watch. I'd say it's easy and enjoyable watching for anyone who likes their beer.

Anyone who's doing Dry January, I would avoid, as it really makes you want a beer

There was one shot of the Belgian team sat by the river in their home town sharing a bottle of Belgian Blonde that was giving me insane cravings.

Elmo! · « **Reply #2215 on:** January 21, 2022, 07:31:08 pm »

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on January 17, 2022, 04:49:33 pm

Anyone watched Beer Masters on Amazon Prime?

Kind of like Bake Off but for beer. There's (I think) 5 teams, all from different countries - England, The Netherlands, Belgium, France and Italy - and each week they're given a different style of beer to go away and brew.

There's some really knowledgeable and interesting guest judges they have on, often master brewers from famous brands and James Blunt as the host is reasonably tolerable. There's a master brewer I can't say I've heard of (she's very knowledgeable though) who makes the 'tasting notes' parts and the technical detail very accessible, not pretentious as it could end up being.

They also visit a few big breweries like Camden (don't rate their Hells Lager much myself) and Stella Artois, which is fairly interesting.

There's some really good looking beers made by the teams and a few disasters, it's a decent watch. I'd say it's easy and enjoyable watching for anyone who likes their beer.

Anyone who's doing Dry January, I would avoid, as it really makes you want a beer There was one shot of the Belgian team sat by the river in their home town sharing a bottle of Belgian Blonde that was giving me insane cravings.

Thanks, I enjoyed that! It did sum up craft beer drinkers up a bit though in the first episode when they are supposed to be making an easy drinking beer, and the judges warn that making a dark beer or a sour is probably a bad idea, then you end up with a few dark beers and a sour.

In other news...

BrewDog boss accused of trying to intimidate ex-staff over TV exposé

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James Watt appears to warn sources who gave evidence to BBC that their identities could be revealed

The boss of BrewDog has been accused of trying to intimidate former staff who are due to appear in a critical documentary that will shine a light on the beer brand’s workplace culture.

The self-styled “punk” brewery, which is targeting an eventual £2bn stock market float, apologised last year after current and former employees signed an open letter alleging a “culture of fear” in which workers were bullied and “treated like objects”.

Some of the allegations will be revisited in a BBC documentary, Disclosure: The Truth About BrewDog, due to air on Monday evening.

But in fresh posts on BrewDog’s “Equity for Punks” forum, the company’s chief executive, James Watt, appeared to attempt to warn sources who gave evidence to the BBC that their identities could be exposed.

In the forum, which is seen by investors and some staff, he said: “All of this is very, very likely to end up in court.”

He said the BBC “will likely have told sources that their identity will remain anonymous”. But he said anonymity “can never be guaranteed” and a court could order the BBC to name former staff who contributed to the programme.

“If anyone is in any way concerned by this, it is not too late to withdraw your consent,” he said.

A spokesperson for the Unite trade union criticised Watt’s comments. “Any attempt to intimidate current and former workers taking a stand on systemic mistreatment will not be tolerated,” said Bryan Simpson, an industrial organiser for Unite Hospitality. “We will represent all Unite members fully against efforts by a multimillionaire to silence them.”

Watt said: “We … know false information has been given to the BBC, which if broadcast would be highly defamatory. BrewDog fully supports transparency and investigative journalism. However, it must also protect itself from defamatory allegations and will not hesitate to do so.”

Last year 61 former workers signed an open letter under the banner “Punks with Purpose”. They alleged that the Scottish brewer’s dizzyingly rapid growth had involved cutting corners on health and safety, espousing values it did not live by, and creating a “toxic” culture that led to staff suffering from mental illness.

The company, whose meteoric rise has attracted admiration as well as criticism for its sometimes controversial PR stunts, has since apologised and performed a review of its workplace culture. Watt has repeatedly promised to learn from the experience, while also casting doubt on the integrity of some of the complainants.

Disclosure: The Truth About BrewDog is on BBC One Scotland on Monday 24 January at 7pm and will also be on iPlayer.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jan/21/brewdog-boss-accused-of-trying-to-intimidate-ex-staff-over-tv-expose

dimwit · « **Reply #2216 on:** January 22, 2022, 02:22:05 am »

Born in a lager country, fell in love with weissen bier, I can only declare one winner, and that is Fosters

red_Mark1980 · « **Reply #2217 on:** January 24, 2022, 08:30:55 pm »

Real shame about the BBC documentary on Brewdog.

They always seemed like decent chaps

Hedley Lamarr · « **Reply #2218 on:** January 25, 2022, 10:36:21 am »

Quote from: red_Mark1980 on January 24, 2022, 08:30:55 pm

Real shame about the BBC documentary on Brewdog.

They always seemed like decent chaps

Really ? James Watt has always seemed like an arsehole, I feel for Martin Dickie though, he’s had his name sullied because of Watt. The best thing about BrewDog is that they open the door to much better beer from much better breweries, because their own beer is rank.

I’m saying this as someone who has shares via their ‘Equity for punks’ scheme.

red_Mark1980 · « **Reply #2219 on:** January 25, 2022, 10:51:18 am »

Quote from: Hedley Lamarr on January 25, 2022, 10:36:21 am

Really ? James Watt has always seemed like an arsehole, I feel for Martin Dickie though, he’s had his name sullied because of Watt. The best thing about BrewDog is that they open the door to much better beer from much better breweries, because their own beer is rank.

I’m saying this as someone who has shares via their ‘Equity for punks’ scheme.

Apologies. It was dripping in sarcasm. I really dislike everything about them

Hedley Lamarr · « **Reply #2220 on:** January 25, 2022, 10:54:31 am »

Quote from: red_Mark1980 on January 25, 2022, 10:51:18 am

Apologies. It was dripping in sarcasm. I really dislike everything about them

Phew. That James Watt is a scumbag, hope last nights doc really damaged them.

Elmo! · « **Reply #2221 on:** January 25, 2022, 10:55:54 am »

He was much better when he stuck to making steam engines.

Scottish-Don · « **Reply #2222 on:** January 25, 2022, 11:42:08 am »

Quote from: red_Mark1980 on January 24, 2022, 08:30:55 pm

Real shame about the BBC documentary on Brewdog.

They always seemed like decent chaps

BBC Westminster propaganda, BBC Scotland knocking a Scottish success story. Everything from that Exclusive has been on social media for months now. Real lazy journalism, all he said/she said tales with 80% of the documentary You Tube footage.

And for the BBC to interview Andrew Morgan? That clown crowdfunded for the Bottleshop in Bermondsey, ran the company into the ground, screwed over many local breweries and staff then sold it cheap to Ab-in Bev.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #2223 on:** January 25, 2022, 12:51:04 pm »

Quote from: Scottish-Don on January 25, 2022, 11:42:08 am

BBC Westminster propaganda, BBC Scotland knocking a Scottish success story. Everything from that Exclusive has been on social media for months now. Real lazy journalism, all he said/she said tales with 80% of the documentary You Tube footage.

And for the BBC to interview Andrew Morgan? That clown crowdfunded for the Bottleshop in Bermondsey, ran the company into the ground, screwed over many local breweries and staff then sold it cheap to Ab-in Bev.

I don't want to be a 'no smoke without fire' guy, but surely there's been enough awful stories from ex employees, current employees and general issues that you're inclined to believe a lot of the terrible stuff that's coming out about the company? Or is it the quality of BBC's journalism and production you have an issue with, as opposed to the exposee's on Brewdog?

They've admitted to breaching laws in the past and there's now the added issue of sending beer to America to meet demands, knowing it wasn't tested and included ingredients not allowed on the US market, though that could be more oversight than malice, it's hard to see that guy doing anything with good intentions.

It's been two years of non-stop bad stories about the place, maybe a good chunk of it is true.

Onto actual good beer, I've been working my way through my Christmas pile, one a night, but have been craving Leffe, blonde and brown, a lot recently. I tend not to get the big bottles in as I'd sit there and polish the whole thing off.

Scottish-Don · « **Reply #2224 on:** January 25, 2022, 01:02:39 pm »

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on January 25, 2022, 12:51:04 pm

I don't want to be a 'no smoke without fire' guy, but surely there's been enough awful stories from ex employees, current employees and general issues that you're inclined to believe a lot of the terrible stuff that's coming out about the company? Or is it the quality of BBC's journalism and production you have an issue with, as opposed to the exposee's on Brewdog?

A bit of both really, I'm a former Brewdog employee (left to further my career), never witnessed any sexism etc during my time there and met James & his crew many times during my employment. I'm not sticking up for them, just sharing my view of things.

As for the BBC, they are in the Tories pocket and this was a swipe at the SNP as they have links with Brewdog.

Elmo! · « **Reply #2225 on:** January 25, 2022, 01:08:49 pm »

Quote from: Scottish-Don on January 25, 2022, 01:02:39 pm

A bit of both really, I'm a former Brewdog employee (left to further my career), never witnessed any sexism etc during my time there and met James & his crew many times during my employment. I'm not sticking up for them, just sharing my view of things.

As for the BBC, they are in the Tories pocket and this was a swipe at the SNP as they have links with Brewdog.

What links do Brewdog have with the SNP? First I've heard of that.

To be honest I've always assumed Watt is a Tory.

Scottish-Don · « **Reply #2226 on:** January 25, 2022, 01:38:32 pm »

Quote from: Elmo! on January 25, 2022, 01:08:49 pm

What links do Brewdog have with the SNP? First I've heard of that.

To be honest I've always assumed Watt is a Tory.

Brewdog received financial support from our Government. Our First Minister has many photo's of her in the Bars and together with James. The Scottish Unionists are having a field day wiith this on Twitter, looks like the BBC's plan worked.

Elmo! · « **Reply #2227 on:** January 25, 2022, 01:46:37 pm »

Quote from: Scottish-Don on January 25, 2022, 01:38:32 pm

Brewdog received financial support from our Government. Our First Minister has many photo's of her in the Bars and together with James. The Scottish Unionists are having a field day wiith this on Twitter, looks like the BBC's plan worked.

To be honest I haven't seen anyone talk about this from a party political viewpoint. That seems a bit of a stretch and a weak criticism of the documentary to deflect from the actual issue.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #2228 on:** January 25, 2022, 03:20:31 pm »

Politically speaking, Watt's social media would have you believe he's somewhere marginally left of centre, and he's certainly taken swipes at the Tories - the Barnard Castle Eye Test Hazy Pale Ale was a funny bit of marketing off the back of the Cummings furore.

Fair enough if Scottish-Don is taking the people he's met as he found them, I tend to try and do the same. It's just difficult to see how there's not some truth to some of the bad press coming out, when it's being fired at them from all angles. Maybe success has bred jealousy, maybe the stories are an exaggerated version of the truth, but rarely have I known a company and an owner - of a beer company no less - get so many attacks on them from so many angles. It would be bizarre and a bit of a conspiracy if none of it were true.

Nobby Reserve · « **Reply #2229 on:** January 25, 2022, 10:44:29 pm »

Quote from: dimwit on January 22, 2022, 02:22:05 am

Born in a lager country, fell in love with weissen bier, I can only declare one winner, and that is Fosters

Nothing wrong with Fosters. Out of that 4% 'bog standard' sector, I think it's the nicest (Carling, on the other hand, is awful).

I still hate hoppy beer, especially if it has that citra shite.

Red_Mist · « **Reply #2230 on:** January 26, 2022, 09:33:47 am »

Quote from: Nobby Reserve on January 25, 2022, 10:44:29 pm

Nothing wrong with Fosters. Out of that 4% 'bog standard' sector, I think it's the nicest (Carling, on the other hand, is awful).

I still hate hoppy beer, especially if it has that citra shite.

I love hoppy beers, the more hop aromas and flavours the better for me. There’s certain hops that smell strongly of weed. Love those. I don’t partake anymore but still love the smell of fresh weed, so to inhale those aromas in a beer is heaven

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #2231 on:** January 26, 2022, 11:28:07 am »

Quote from: Red_Mist on January 26, 2022, 09:33:47 am

I love hoppy beers, the more hop aromas and flavours the better for me. There’s certain hops that smell strongly of weed. Love those. I don’t partake anymore but still love the smell of fresh weed, so to inhale those aromas in a beer is heaven

I had a Citra IPA from Indie Brew Co in a taphouse the other day, was incredibly hoppy and smelt so strong of weed that I honestly thought the barman had sparked up in the room behind the bar for a moment, until I realised it was the beer.

Had a Blue Moon Belgian White last night after a work event and it hit the spot, considering it's Belgian style and made in Colorado, it's one of the nicer mass produced beers easily available. £5.50 a pint though, steep.

Red_Mist · « **Reply #2232 on:** January 26, 2022, 02:14:13 pm »

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on January 26, 2022, 11:28:07 am

I had a Citra IPA from Indie Brew Co in a taphouse the other day, was incredibly hoppy and smelt so strong of weed that I honestly thought the barman had sparked up in the room behind the bar for a moment, until I realised it was the beer.

They’re closely related. You can tell just by looking at a hop flower.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hops_and_cannabinoids

https://wayofleaf.com/blog/marijuana-and-hops

Nobby Reserve · « **Reply #2233 on:** January 26, 2022, 04:27:53 pm »

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on January 26, 2022, 11:28:07 am

I had a Citra IPA from Indie Brew Co in a taphouse the other day, was incredibly hoppy and smelt so strong of weed that I honestly thought the barman had sparked up in the room behind the bar for a moment, until I realised it was the beer.

Had a Blue Moon Belgian White last night after a work event and it hit the spot, considering it's Belgian style and made in Colorado, it's one of the nicer mass produced beers easily available. £5.50 a pint though, steep.

I generally really love wheat beers - creamy, a little sweet, decent bit of fizz, no intrusive hops to dominate the taste. But I see 'trendy' breweries are now polluting these with fruit and other such shit.

For some reason, really enjoying Corona lager lately; picked up some 10-packs from Aldi, who were selling them off for £5.99. Speaking of Aldi, they changed their Galahad lager from a poor Carling rip-off, to a very good Fosters imitation. At £2.19 for 4 (4%), it's actually not bad at all.

Boston always unofficial · « **Reply #2234 on:** February 18, 2022, 09:30:03 pm »

A new brewery opened near me last fall,concentrates on euro style session beers.
https://www.notchbrewing.com/notchbrighton#brightonontap. They were suppossed to be doing an english style bitter and a mild style but i've not seen any signs yet.I'm kinda hanging out in hope for those.

kaesarsosei · « **Reply #2235 on:** February 20, 2022, 06:29:01 am »

Random question - but where/when did the term session come from in regards to beers/IPAs? Back in my youth we would have talked about going on a "session" as basically going out on the lash all-day. But I find it hard to believe that such an un-sophisticated term would have been picked up by these trendy breweries.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #2236 on:** February 20, 2022, 09:25:00 am »

Quote from: kaesarsosei on February 20, 2022, 06:29:01 am

Random question - but where/when did the term session come from in regards to beers/IPAs? Back in my youth we would have talked about going on a "session" as basically going out on the lash all-day. But I find it hard to believe that such an un-sophisticated term would have been picked up by these trendy breweries.

It’s not perfect etymology, but it’s thought to stem back to WW1 England, where workers were allowed breaks or ‘sessions’ where they would be allowed to stop working and have a drink. These would be between 11am and 3pm, then again in the evening. These allocated license times for ale houses didn’t really change until the late 80s. Typical ale of the time was often stout or Porter, which was a bit too impactful to return to work on after a few, so lighter ales between 3 and 4% became more popular as you could enjoy two or three and still be fit to work. Pints of mild were the go to then, and if you read into it, it’s mild bitter that’s first referred to as a session drink.

That such beers are now classed as session or sessionable comes from that I believe, though it’s taken on the modern connotations that you’ve referred to. It’s why today, most sub 4% session ales harken from a more traditional British style, even the American options flooding the market.

Red_Mist · « **Reply #2237 on:** February 20, 2022, 11:53:26 am »

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on February 20, 2022, 09:25:00 am

It’s not perfect etymology, but it’s thought to stem back to WW1 England, where workers were allowed breaks or ‘sessions’ where they would be allowed to stop working and have a drink. These would be between 11am and 3pm, then again in the evening. These allocated license times for ale houses didn’t really change until the late 80s. Typical ale of the time was often stout or Porter, which was a bit too impactful to return to work on after a few, so lighter ales between 3 and 4% became more popular as you could enjoy two or three and still be fit to work. Pints of mild were the go to then, and if you read into it, it’s mild bitter that’s first referred to as a session drink.

That such beers are now classed as session or sessionable comes from that I believe, though it’s taken on the modern connotations that you’ve referred to. It’s why today, most sub 4% session ales harken from a more traditional British style, even the American options flooding the market.

That’s interesting stuff DS….but I reckon (much to kaesarsosei’s disappointment!) that it does simply come from ‘going on a session’, which is a phrase that’s been around since I started drinking in the 80s. Definitely not a new term. ‘That’s a nice session ale’ is just something you’d hear a beer drinker say (and still hear). Obviously meaning you can safely have a few without falling over.

Beer festivals call them ‘sessions’, as in ‘are you going the afternoon or evening session?’ The word just implies you’re going to have a few more over a longer period of time than you normally might when just nipping to the ale house for an hour or so.

I love these newer, stronger, kegged ipas and stouts. They’re full of flavour and I’ll have a good few halves if I’m in that sort of place. But now I’m an old fart basically, I’m happy if I see a nice, well brewed 3.8% hoppy little number on cask on the bar. I know I’m good for several hours and won’t feel like shite the next day.

Boston always unofficial · « **Reply #2238 on:** February 20, 2022, 07:36:31 pm »

Agree with Mr.Sangria about the session term would also say it's become more of a thing over here,sit at the bar shoot the shit for an afternoon as oppossed to the college style drink as much as quickly to get fucked up.
"The future is unwritten"is a great mild from Small Change Brewing.https://www.smallchangebrewing.com/our-beer,i've not tried their other stuff i'm not an IPA type .

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #2239 on:** February 21, 2022, 01:00:27 pm »

Quote from: Red_Mist on February 20, 2022, 11:53:26 am

That’s interesting stuff DS….but I reckon (much to kaesarsosei’s disappointment!) that it does simply come from ‘going on a session’, which is a phrase that’s been around since I started drinking in the 80s. Definitely not a new term. ‘That’s a nice session ale’ is just something you’d hear a beer drinker say (and still hear). Obviously meaning you can safely have a few without falling over.

Beer festivals call them ‘sessions’, as in ‘are you going the afternoon or evening session?’ The word just implies you’re going to have a few more over a longer period of time than you normally might when just nipping to the ale house for an hour or so.

I love these newer, stronger, kegged ipas and stouts. They’re full of flavour and I’ll have a good few halves if I’m in that sort of place. But now I’m an old fart basically, I’m happy if I see a nice, well brewed 3.8% hoppy little number on cask on the bar. I know I’m good for several hours and won’t feel like shite the next day.

I think it's a mixture of the two, as it often is with etymological origins, that there's some truth in what a few historians have noted, but that it's come into the beer drinking nomenclature via the more common modern application - and as you say, that's pretty much the thought that pops to mind when you see 'session' and that's principally the way in which it's used in a modern context.

Interesting either way.

Quote from: Boston always unofficial on February 20, 2022, 07:36:31 pm

Agree with Mr.Sangria about the session term would also say it's become more of a thing over here,sit at the bar shoot the shit for an afternoon as oppossed to the college style drink as much as quickly to get fucked up.
"The future is unwritten"is a great mild from Small Change Brewing.https://www.smallchangebrewing.com/our-beer,i've not tried their other stuff i'm not an IPA type .

Looks like they've a few interesting beers. In the UK, 'a session' has devolved into 'going on the sesh,' which no longer necessarily means just drinking, it's a term that's got a somewhat pejorative context now in that it means just going out and getting fucked up in a sustained manner, whatever the means, typically a mixture of drink and drugs, regardless of what that drink is.