Topic: Fulham 1-0 Liverpool: Full time

[crichton]

Actually having chest pains after watching that.

Kevin Friend is no fucking premier league ref. I dont mind saying that a performance like that should be automatically checked by an ethics commitee.

He looked the other way every time Suarez was fouled.
The goal was onside.
Spearing won the ball.
I thought we should have had a penalty watching it in live time with a decent camera angle, he thought otherwise from 20 yards behind play.
Dempsey should have gotten red card for his reaction to Bellamy winning the ball.

This prick should never be allowed near a game again.

Of course we missed our usual hatfull of chances, Pepe dropped a clanger, and not one of our strikers could hit a barn door with a shotgun at the moment, but add a crap, bent ref to this and how the fuck are we expected to win games.

We need 2 strikers, the league needs an overhaul of its ref programme.
I feel like my chest is going to explode.

[Groundskeeper Willie]

Gareth Southgate is a massive twat.

[reddd10]

How you can be that unlucky is unbelievable.

Lucas Leiva. What a player.

[just Riggins?]

Pissed off with the ref throughout that. 

We scored once and hit the woodwork twice, we were extremely unlucky.

Also fed up with Johnson getting turned all the bloody time, Kelly should start.

[IanMac]

I thought Lucas was anonymous tonight.

[LFC King]

http://yfrog.com/h6jo3wij

offside ? fuck off

[stiffnuts]

I love Dalglish to bits but I think he was playing football manager/fantasy football tonight and it didnt work. Wrong formation with the wrong personnel !

[astowell1]

Fuck off.

He hasn't said too much wrong there, definitely not deserving of your dog shit excuse of a response, have a word.

[Twelfth Man]

8 league goals in 27 games for Suarez. It's becoming an issue. Outrageously talented footballer. Outrageously frustrating in front of goal.

Doesn't help him that there seems to be nobody else capable of pitching in with consistent goals.

Poor thing doesn't get laid chances on a plate for him like Aguero. Often has to create his own outrageous opportunities.

[buzzing]

Why change the team?

Why change the formula that got us two wins against Chelsea and a draw against the league leaders?

Today was nothing to do with Lucas. We should once again have been home and dry before any of the last 20 minutes happened.

The fact is, Andy Carroll is the problem. I'm not using him as a scapegoat, it's just a fact. He's not even playing bad though! He's does some nice touches, and with a bit of confidence I am sure he will score a lot of goals. This isn't the point though. It's not who the player is, it's the type of player he is. It's just not working at the moment.

Suarez is world class, but even he needs a little space. He only finds that space when he has a duo of players running around, and beyond him to create distractions for the opposition defenders. Andy Carroll does not have that movement, and he never will. THE SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK WITH THE BIG MAN. Suarez needs Maxi and Bellamy, or Kuyt and Bellamy, or even Kuyt and Maxi.

Kenny got it wrong today unfortunately.

Yes we missed Lucas, and yes Spearo got sent off. But we would've had, 1? 2? Maybe even 3 in the first half if we kept the formula from the last two league games. I just don't understand why Kenny changed it. I want nothing more than Carroll to be a star for us, and maybe one day he will be. But we can't drop points with the hope that Carroll gets a string of games and suddenly because a Goal galore number 9. We can't sacrifice points for that.

Agree with that

[Leecher9]

Should have got a pen, shouldn't have been a red, but we should have scored and that's the end of it.

But we did score is what im saying just an awful call yet again.

[helmboy_nige]

to be honest, while I agree we played well, I'm tired of the 'we played well but struggled in the final third' excuse.  That failure to finish teams off is costing us big points now.  I still feel we can finish top 4, but we desperately need a killer instinct and that may meaning spending big money.

[vanderpaart]

Oh... uhm... fuck off.

Outplayed them until the joke of a red

We looked dangerous on the counter, and so did they. No-one outplayed anyone.

I'd be more inclined to say they outplayed us than the other way around if anything

[Seebab]

Why change the team?

Why change the formula that got us two wins against Chelsea and a draw against the league leaders?

Today was nothing to do with Lucas. We should once again have been home and dry before any of the last 20 minutes happened.

The fact is, Andy Carroll is the problem. I'm not using him as a scapegoat, it's just a fact. He's not even playing bad though! He's does some nice touches, and with a bit of confidence I am sure he will score a lot of goals. This isn't the point though. It's not who the player is, it's the type of player he is. It's just not working at the moment.

Suarez is world class, but even he needs a little space. He only finds that space when he has a duo of players running around, and beyond him to create distractions for the opposition defenders. Andy Carroll does not have that movement, and he never will. THE SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK WITH THE BIG MAN. Suarez needs Maxi and Bellamy, or Kuyt and Bellamy, or even Kuyt and Maxi.

Kenny got it wrong today unfortunately.

Yes we missed Lucas, and yes Spearo got sent off. But we would've had, 1? 2? Maybe even 3 in the first half if we kept the formula from the last two league games. I just don't understand why Kenny changed it. I want nothing more than Carroll to be a star for us, and maybe one day he will be. But we can't drop points with the hope that Carroll gets a string of games and suddenly because a Goal galore number 9. We can't sacrifice points for that.

Good post pal. I agree completely. I like Carrol, he's a good player but he's just not clicking with our system and right now our want for him to do well is hindering our performances I reckon.

[Thiago]

He hasn't said too much wrong there, definitely not deserving of your dog shit excuse of a response, have a word.

I'm used to it. 

[timmyonions]

Some need to simmer down.The performance wasn`t by any means bad.It wasn`t our best,but we were doing ok up to the sending off.Shocking decision from the ref.We were in control up to then.It was a real kick in the balls.That said we`re finding goals hard to come by,which is a worry.

 

[dioufythebrave]

8 league goals in 27 games for Suarez. It's becoming an issue. Outrageously talented footballer. Outrageously frustrating in front of goal.

Doesn't help him that there seems to be nobody else capable of pitching in with consistent goals.

its the fact no one really is consistently on the same wavelength as him around the box

[John C]

I thought the lads played really well, the ref may not have got it so badly wrong on the sending off but he made plenty of other errors.

So disappointed in losing but not in the performance, we had a fucking good go there.

[Fitzy.]

Relegation fodder us...


That's the view of some on here.

We lose a game late on where we've been unlucky. Some RAWKites sprint to the computer to attack anyone and anything. We've had a really good few weeks and now some whoppers cry like spoilt children because we lost a game of football. I just hope the closest these people come to Liverpool is via the internet.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

We weren't good enough to win it though to be honest, still a draw was the fairest result out of this match. Maxi needs to start IMO.

[jaffod]

The club really need to grow some balls and attack these cheating refs.

Been saying it for ever mate, we get shafted time and again but we bend over and take it in a dignified manner. Expect more of the same until someone grows a fucking spine.

[SmallwoodRed]

Should have got a pen, shouldn't have been a red, but we should have scored and that's the end of it.

what a bizzare thing to say.
You tend to score from pens.
Teams with one player less tend to lose.
Apart from that the ref had no impact at all.

Speachless

[Kite]

no excuses, red card was spot on, cant go through a tackle with both feet, studs showing and 1 foot 3 ft off the ground.

to be fair, he probably touched the ball more once he was off the pitch anyway, we need to bring someone in...Poulsen available..?  .

Adam was a liability defensively.

the ONLY plus was the back 4 again

Tackle ?  It wasn't a tackle, Spearing was first to that ball by a country mile, and he cleared it.

[buzzing]

Fuck off.

Dont agree with him saying it was awful. But rest of it is right

[Cruiser]

I thought Lucas was anonymous tonight.

Thought he was MOTM myself 

[-Willo-]

If we simply played the players who were playing well, scoring and generally making us a better team as opposed to playing players who are quite shite at the moment and adding next to nothing bar the money we paid in the summer/January, then maybe we'd do alright tonight, ah well though.

[kasperoff]

Awful performance.

Referee is not to blame, nor is luck. Kenny got it badly wrong today - the selection was terrible, the delay in making subs was again terrible and not bringing on Maxi was stupid.

Too many players underperformed.

Gonna disagree with that. I though we played really well. We pressed and harried from the off and were clearly looking for the win from the outset. We were also pushing for an equalizer right to the end even with 10 men. I saw some really good pass and move football tonight and a generally great tempo when we had 11 men on the pitch.

I hate to say it, but with a Torres in his pomp in that team we'd be fucking flying in the league this season. We've desperately lack a finisher. I really expected more goals out of Downing, Carroll and Suarez this season.

[Cochise]

http://yfrog.com/h6jo3wij

offside ? fuck off

Very tight.

[MelwoodBoy]

Suprise suprise Jol thinks its a red

Fat wanker. So sick of this in football. Just dont comment, no-ones asking you to say it was. Just dont comment instead of making a cock of yourself

[Phil_88]

 what it needs is ex pro's from the lower leagues who ain't aint rich and still need 2 work cus they know the game, 90% of these refs have never ever played the game ay any level and they have not got a clue

[soxfan]

All of the things that everyone is complaining about tonight are the things that City, ManU, Chelsea, Spurs & Arsenal overcome better than us. They tend to get past those issues by putting an extra goal in the net. We don't.

Let's stop blaming refs & bad luck. We need a top-4 caliber replacement for Lucas plus a bonafide goal scorer in January. If we don't get them we'll be riding this roller coaster all season.

[faisfais]

Performance was good, luck was against us.

I am not sure I agree with you on that one. Remember, Arsenal, Everton sending offs? We have had our share of luck in games, but from the evidence from Man U, City, Stoke, Sunderland, Norwich, Swansea today clearly shows that we do not convert possession into goals. If we continue to try and adapt the team to incorporate our $35 million investment, we will end up paying a lot more than $35 million in the long run. I am saying, its better to take a $35 million loss and move on.

Remember Veron, Mutu, Adebayor.. failures by their standards at their respective clubs, and the clubs won trophies after getting rid. Liverpool have in the past always tried to incorporate expensive signings at the expense of (1) disjointed performances.. in case of Cisse, Kewell, Aquillani, or (2) over-reliance on one player.. in case of Owen(free), Torres. We have move away from the "team" into a team of "Gerrard/Torres". And losing the ultimate selfless team player Lucas did not help the matter as well.

/end of knee jerk comments

[Spirit_of_Istanbul]

Oh well, (Thinks of some positives) least the tickets are cheap, and you have lots of leg room due to the attendances in the group stages.

Stupid putting up things like that. It wasn't to be tonight after bad decision by ref and us not putting ball in the net. Sometimes i think so of our 'fans' want us to fail. Loads of time to put things right.

[firing squad]

No point in blaming the ref.

Sorry.

I ususally don't like to blame things on the ref, I'm a ref myself, but tonight the refs were woeful, plenty of fouls not given for both sides, Suarez goal wrongfully dissallowed, Senderos was onside and the red card was comical, Yay went for the ball, he actually even got the ball and that's it. You could MAYBE give a plain foul for that but a straight red? fuck off.

[BigAl24]

Why change the team?

Why change the formula that got us two wins against Chelsea and a draw against the league leaders?

Today was nothing to do with Lucas. We should once again have been home and dry before any of the last 20 minutes happened.

The fact is, Andy Carroll is the problem. I'm not using him as a scapegoat, it's just a fact. He's not even playing bad though! He's does some nice touches, and with a bit of confidence I am sure he will score a lot of goals. This isn't the point though. It's not who the player is, it's the type of player he is. It's just not working at the moment.

Suarez is world class, but even he needs a little space. He only finds that space when he has a duo of players running around, and beyond him to create distractions for the opposition defenders. Andy Carroll does not have that movement, and he never will. THE SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK WITH THE BIG MAN. Suarez needs Maxi and Bellamy, or Kuyt and Bellamy, or even Kuyt and Maxi.

Kenny got it wrong today unfortunately.

Yes we missed Lucas, and yes Spearo got sent off. But we would've had, 1? 2? Maybe even 3 in the first half if we kept the formula from the last two league games. I just don't understand why Kenny changed it. I want nothing more than Carroll to be a star for us, and maybe one day he will be. But we can't drop points with the hope that Carroll gets a string of games and suddenly because a Goal galore number 9. We can't sacrifice points for that.

I've got to agree with this to be honest.

[keeby]

What a game, we were the much better side for the most part, but sadly the ref has given a very soft red - was dempseys tackle early in the first half just as bad, for my money it was.  Several bizarre decisions  went to fulham some did go to us mind. (late in second half)

Yet again poor finishing - on a positive we are creating chances woodwork struck twice AGAIN, we are were we are because of a very low conversion rate - we need a finisher and fast.

[cox3100]

why the fuck are people slating kenny?

that team and that performance should have been good enough to beat fulham and probably would have if it wasnt for alot of blatantly shit decisions from the ref and his assistants

and for those saying the signings in the summer are shite,its funny how they were good enough to beat chelsea twice away and should have beaten man city

we were unlucky to have come up against kevin fucking friend

[keano7]

Such a stop start season. Need to put a run together over christmas or 4th will be a distant memory by New Year.

[theoupsilon]

Kevin Fucking Friend, you bitch !!

Everything was against us tonight, we might have lost a golden opportunity to play in Europe next year.

[RedRabbit]

Btw we hit the post twice. 15 times this season.

Top of the league in this apparently.

At least that's something.