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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37400 on: November 5, 2019, 08:21:05 am »
Neither are racist......misconceptions, stereotypes maybe...but not racist. Singing about dogs being eaten in a particular country is maybe distasteful but not racially abusing anybody. Same goes for the size of anybody's penis...... Its just a song...its fictional.

Stereotypes based on race.

They’re racist songs.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37401 on: November 5, 2019, 08:31:04 am »
They might put an 'X' next to Labour in the elections, but their attitude towards the working class population of a fellow working class neighbouring city is distinctly Tory. In fact, I'd go further and say it's disturbingly fascistic.

It's like PaulF says, its vitriol for football, the Kop in the 70's and 80's wasn't a nice place, some of the songs about Munich and Spurs and a certain death camp were fucking vile. Sadly, this kind of shit is creeping back into football. When you mix with the people away from football, they aren't far removed for us. Over the years I've worked with people from Eccles, Salford, Gorton, I've got mates from those areas and they are all like us, they want the same things we want.

Anyway, all off topic, these are still shit and it's ace. This week is all about the 6 times Champions of Europe aiming to extend their unbeaten run and lead at the top of the Prem over their noisy neighbours and it must be killing them.
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I'm loving seeing their despair at how far away they are from competing again.

The depths they're falling to in an attempt to regain their top spot.

Their desperation for the next generation of youngsters coming through.

Their impatience and need for instant gratification.

What's really hilarious is that they've become the one thing they loved taking the piss out of.....US!

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37403 on: November 5, 2019, 09:01:46 am »
Mate, all of their insults come from real life political ideas or policies. They sing 'Sign On' because of the high levels of unemployment in Liverpool in the 80s, they sing 'In Your Liverpool Slums' because the city suffers from poverty and was almost cut adrift by Thatcher's government, they sing about 'eating rats in your council house' because they think social housing is to be sneered at, they sing 'always the victim' because they believed the establishment lies, I could go on...

Calling them inbreds isn't embracing them but it's not exactly based on decades of right-wing smear campaigns and political agendas either. It's easy to dismiss it as banter but when the British public votes Tory every four years because they hate 'benefit scroungers' and fans come to Anfield every week singing about claiming the dole it's hard to dismiss a link in the mindset. If the Mancs want to side with Thatcher, Johnson and The Sun then they are giving us every reason to label them Tories.
Another good post. This is the thing. There's a tendency to think that all 'banter' is the same and 'just banter' but it isn't. There's ridiculous over-exaggerated cartoon calumny - stuff like six-fingered inbreds and stuff involving sisters etc, which is so obviously not based on any verifiable truth (even if some of the fans we are aiming at are inbred sister-fingerers, how would we know?) that it's just a kind of verbal raspberry.

Then there's sledging in the 'we're gonna pound you' or 'rip you a new one' and even the thnakfully no-longer heard '...back of an ambulance' and similar stuff which is just verbal posturing. And then there's footballing shitchat that could be based in truth like 'Fergie's right' and  stuff about glory hunters etc.

But then there's the vile stuff based on true situations, tragedies, poverty, unemployment etc which really has no place in banter. It's not banter, it's not footballing exchanges, it's vilification of a people, a place, serious situations, political cynicism, social deprivation and devastation and so on. It might as well be racism because it is targeted at specific people/places and is born out of hate.

It needs to be fucked right off and no amount of hipster rhetoric about 'silencing the authentic voice of the terraces' or 'working class footballing traditions' should get in the way of clubs dealing with it.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37404 on: November 5, 2019, 09:05:07 am »
I'm loving seeing their despair at how far away they are from competing again.

The depths they're falling to in an attempt to regain their top spot.

Their desperation for the next generation of youngsters coming through.

Their impatience and need for instant gratification.

What's really hilarious is that they've become the one thing they loved taking the piss out of.....US!

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They are replicating is in the early 90s aren’t they, but too even worse levels. Shipped out a few senior players too early when they could still do a job. Keep some of the more average senior pros. Pin faith in youth but without the talent of a Fowler or McManaman. Long may it last.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37405 on: November 5, 2019, 12:24:02 pm »
They are replicating is in the early 90s aren’t they, but too even worse levels. Shipped out a few senior players too early when they could still do a job. Keep some of the more average senior pros. Pin faith in youth but without the talent of a Fowler or McManaman. Long may it last.

What are you on about, Rashford has the potential to be better the Mbappe ;)
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« Reply #37406 on: November 5, 2019, 12:31:13 pm »
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Why do you have that quote of mine as your signature? You took that out of context, and that's not the whole quote, you dumb little fuck.
Because it is such a monumentally stupid thing to say about the greatest player ever, WD-40.

Unfortunately for you, that was not the only stupid thing you have said.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37408 on: November 5, 2019, 03:24:27 pm »
Because it is such a monumentally stupid thing to say about the greatest player ever, WD-40.

Unfortunately for you, that was not the only stupid thing you have said.

I see he's now edited the original post.
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Because it is such a monumentally stupid thing to say about the greatest player ever, WD-40.

Unfortunately for you, that was not the only stupid thing you have said.
Hahhahaah  ;D

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37410 on: November 5, 2019, 03:33:16 pm »
Neither are racist......misconceptions, stereotypes maybe...but not racist. Singing about dogs being eaten in a particular country is maybe distasteful but not racially abusing anybody. Same goes for the size of anybody's penis...... Its just a song...its fictional.

Couldn't be any more wrong if you tried

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« Reply #37411 on: November 5, 2019, 03:45:02 pm »
I see he's now edited the original post.

And his new sig....  :lmao
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« Reply #37413 on: November 5, 2019, 03:50:55 pm »
So so so creative :D

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37414 on: November 5, 2019, 06:16:24 pm »
Quite exceptional levels of bell whiffery here
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37415 on: November 5, 2019, 07:06:08 pm »
Singing about dogs being eaten in a particular country is maybe distasteful

It's intended to be racist.

Re people having a problem with eating dogs, if you're happy to eat a: cow, sheep, pig, goat, chicken etc, then why not a dog?

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37416 on: November 5, 2019, 08:03:08 pm »
Quite exceptional levels of bell whiffery here

I was ad hominem-ed by an anti rust spray, Tepid.
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Because it is such a monumentally stupid thing to say about the greatest player ever, WD-40.

Unfortunately for you, that was not the only stupid thing you have said.

Sorry mate, but you sound like a knob. I praised Messi, and I've put him in top3 of all times in that comment, but you took one line of that comment, to take it out of context. What a dumb thing to do.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37418 on: November 5, 2019, 10:25:25 pm »
:lmao :lmao

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37419 on: November 5, 2019, 10:32:50 pm »
Sorry mate, but you sound like a knob. I praised Messi, and I've put him in top3 of all times in that comment, but you took one line of that comment, to take it out of context. What a dumb thing to do.

But it makes for a great laugh for the rest of us. Specially when it has f**k all to do with Man Utd

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37420 on: November 5, 2019, 10:33:12 pm »
I think I agree with what you've been saying about their songs stepping over the mark. And you are right, some of it is aimed in an almost racist way.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37421 on: November 5, 2019, 10:56:11 pm »
Another good post. This is the thing. There's a tendency to think that all 'banter' is the same and 'just banter' but it isn't. There's ridiculous over-exaggerated cartoon calumny - stuff like six-fingered inbreds and stuff involving sisters etc, which is so obviously not based on any verifiable truth (even if some of the fans we are aiming at are inbred sister-fingerers, how would we know?) that it's just a kind of verbal raspberry.

Then there's sledging in the 'we're gonna pound you' or 'rip you a new one' and even the thnakfully no-longer heard '...back of an ambulance' and similar stuff which is just verbal posturing. And then there's footballing shitchat that could be based in truth like 'Fergie's right' and  stuff about glory hunters etc.

But then there's the vile stuff based on true situations, tragedies, poverty, unemployment etc which really has no place in banter. It's not banter, it's not footballing exchanges, it's vilification of a people, a place, serious situations, political cynicism, social deprivation and devastation and so on. It might as well be racism because it is targeted at specific people/places and is born out of hate.

It needs to be fucked right off and no amount of hipster rhetoric about 'silencing the authentic voice of the terraces' or 'working class footballing traditions' should get in the way of clubs dealing with it.

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Had to come back to this after Rees-Mogg's vile comments today about the victims of Grenfell. Let's not dismiss the dangerous attitudes that the political and social elites in this country have toward the working-class and how it creeps into the mindsets of normal people. "Eating rats in your council house..." doesn't sound as much like harmless banter when you view it through the prism of British politics and social attitudes.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37422 on: November 5, 2019, 11:38:14 pm »
Another good post. This is the thing. There's a tendency to think that all 'banter' is the same and 'just banter' but it isn't. There's ridiculous over-exaggerated cartoon calumny - stuff like six-fingered inbreds and stuff involving sisters etc, which is so obviously not based on any verifiable truth (even if some of the fans we are aiming at are inbred sister-fingerers, how would we know?) that it's just a kind of verbal raspberry.

Then there's sledging in the 'we're gonna pound you' or 'rip you a new one' and even the thnakfully no-longer heard '...back of an ambulance' and similar stuff which is just verbal posturing. And then there's footballing shitchat that could be based in truth like 'Fergie's right' and  stuff about glory hunters etc.

But then there's the vile stuff based on true situations, tragedies, poverty, unemployment etc which really has no place in banter. It's not banter, it's not footballing exchanges, it's vilification of a people, a place, serious situations, political cynicism, social deprivation and devastation and so on. It might as well be racism because it is targeted at specific people/places and is born out of hate.

It needs to be fucked right off and no amount of hipster rhetoric about 'silencing the authentic voice of the terraces' or 'working class footballing traditions' should get in the way of clubs dealing with it.

That is a really good post.
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« Reply #37423 on: November 6, 2019, 03:41:33 am »
Couldn't be any more wrong if you tried

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Thursday Wankers
« Reply #37424 on: November 6, 2019, 02:04:08 pm »
Marcus Rashford says Manchester United can still make the top 4 this season, even if he has to write the song himself.

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« Reply #37425 on: November 6, 2019, 03:00:25 pm »
He's always offside by a nose
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« Reply #37426 on: November 6, 2019, 04:59:30 pm »
Marcus Rashford says Manchester United can still make the top 4 this season, even if he has to write the song himself.

Remember that they have got sanchez  Paul pogba and fred. And never forget Marcus rashford is manc born and bred
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« Reply #37427 on: November 6, 2019, 05:01:58 pm »
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

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« Reply #37428 on: November 6, 2019, 05:04:26 pm »
And for the love of God keep this man in charge

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« Reply #37429 on: November 6, 2019, 06:01:35 pm »
He's always offside by a nose
So even when he's in his own half?
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« Reply #37430 on: November 6, 2019, 11:42:28 pm »
Another good post. This is the thing. There's a tendency to think that all 'banter' is the same and 'just banter' but it isn't. There's ridiculous over-exaggerated cartoon calumny - stuff like six-fingered inbreds and stuff involving sisters etc, which is so obviously not based on any verifiable truth (even if some of the fans we are aiming at are inbred sister-fingerers, how would we know?) that it's just a kind of verbal raspberry.

Then there's sledging in the 'we're gonna pound you' or 'rip you a new one' and even the thnakfully no-longer heard '...back of an ambulance' and similar stuff which is just verbal posturing. And then there's footballing shitchat that could be based in truth like 'Fergie's right' and  stuff about glory hunters etc.

But then there's the vile stuff based on true situations, tragedies, poverty, unemployment etc which really has no place in banter. It's not banter, it's not footballing exchanges, it's vilification of a people, a place, serious situations, political cynicism, social deprivation and devastation and so on. It might as well be racism because it is targeted at specific people/places and is born out of hate.

It needs to be fucked right off and no amount of hipster rhetoric about 'silencing the authentic voice of the terraces' or 'working class footballing traditions' should get in the way of clubs dealing with it.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Still manager of Manchester United!
« Reply #37431 on: November 6, 2019, 11:43:38 pm »
They are replicating is in the early 90s aren’t they, but too even worse levels. Shipped out a few senior players too early when they could still do a job. Keep some of the more average senior pros. Pin faith in youth but without the talent of a Fowler or McManaman. Long may it last.

I think a joint manager with Solksjaer will do the trick.

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« Reply #37432 on: November 6, 2019, 11:57:59 pm »
I think a joint manager with Solksjaer will do the trick.

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Thursday Wankers
« Reply #37433 on: November 7, 2019, 12:43:55 am »
https://youtu.be/s0OiDkxj4KI

And this  gem

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Thursday Wankers
« Reply #37434 on: November 7, 2019, 03:45:07 am »
It's intended to be racist.

Re people having a problem with eating dogs, if you're happy to eat a: cow, sheep, pig, goat, chicken etc, then why not a dog?



So it is a fact then?

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« Reply #37435 on: November 7, 2019, 06:49:52 am »
They have talked to Rangnick about being director of football according to the Atlantic...

He will want control of the whole football operation in the club, there will be no compromise.

He would give them a direction as a club where currently they are a floundering mess.

However.... will he take it?  I’m not sure I can see United giving him the control he would want. Would they be able to keep Fergies nose out of it long enough?

And if he did get appointed, would they piss him off so he leaves?
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Thursday Wankers
« Reply #37436 on: November 7, 2019, 07:04:48 am »
And for the love of God keep this man in charge

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Bean eating his beans, has he?
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Thursday Wankers
« Reply #37437 on: November 7, 2019, 07:57:04 am »
On the right track according to Smaegol

Manchester United are "on the right track" despite a difficult start to the season, says boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

The Red Devils were beaten by Bournemouth on Saturday - their fourth Premier League loss of the season - and lie 10th in the table.

But they top their Europa League group and can move closer to the knockout stages with victory over Partizan Belgrade on Thursday (20:00 GMT).

"The work everyone does every day is pleasing as a manager," said Solskjaer.

"It is hard work, stick together and team spirit. They want to do well and for one reason or another we haven't had the results.

"We think we should have had a few more results than we have got, but we need to keep working and we know we are on the right track. Of course, Saturday was disappointing and now there is a chance for us to get two wins before the break."

United had been on a four-game unbeaten run before losing 1-0 on the south coast and will be looking to pick up wins against Partizan and against Brighton on Sunday before the international break.

Solskjaer said: "We were on a half-run but it won't happen in one instance that you turn everything around. [Against Bournemouth] it was a quick turn around [from the previous game], we couldn't get the goal we felt we deserved early on.

"We had started well, the mentality was great but [we ended up] disappointed. We go again, have a great chance to qualify for the next round, and that means the last two games we can try out a few things."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50322325

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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Thursday Wankers
« Reply #37438 on: November 7, 2019, 08:48:41 am »
13 points from 11 games, that's horrendous performance. Any top 4 sides would have fired the manager already. That basically explains United no longer consider themselves as top 4 candidate.
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Re: "Green and Gold, it's O10e from Molde!" - Thursday Wankers
« Reply #37439 on: November 7, 2019, 12:25:45 pm »
They have talked to Rangnick about being director of football according to the Atlantic...

He will want control of the whole football operation in the club, there will be no compromise.

He would give them a direction as a club where currently they are a floundering mess.

However.... will he take it?  I’m not sure I can see United giving him the control he would want. Would they be able to keep Fergies nose out of it long enough?

And if he did get appointed, would they piss him off so he leaves?

Rangnick has always been interested in working in the prem (or in England generally - cos he did go for the England job a few years ago), he studied in the UK, and generally seems to have a lot of fondness and time for the place and it's football! And he's now at the stage of his career where if he's going to do it - it'd have to be sooner rather than later.

He has such a cushy number with Red Bull though, he's the king there, of all their football operations. To leave that for Man Utd he'd have to get some serious assurances that he was running operations there. Guess we will see!