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Re: United - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 2018-21: Good Night Sweet Prince
« Reply #27200 on: November 25, 2021, 07:09:28 pm »
I'm failing to see the plan here to be honest.

If they see him moving on to a DOF role then you're arguably setting him up to fail by forcing him to take on a managerial role for 6 months with a squad of players not even close to what he'd want. Or if he does happen to do well then you risk a call to bring him back if the full time appointment doesn't come out the blocks firing.

It also begs the question why Poch is being named fav to become full time. Firstly he doesn't come across as someone Rangnick would employ to push his brand of football, and secondly seems he was picked before Rangnick was, so you're not including your DOF in one of the main footballing decisions.

Everything just screams a fuck up is on the cards.

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Re: United - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 2018-21: Good Night Sweet Prince
« Reply #27201 on: November 25, 2021, 07:26:54 pm »
First sensible decision they've made in a long time. Hopefully he moves on in the summer.
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Re: United - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 2018-21: Good Night Sweet Prince
« Reply #27202 on: November 25, 2021, 07:35:23 pm »
Wreck it, Ralph! (The Interim One!) On the face of it, not their worst decision in the last 10 years. But I'm sure they can expect infighting, snidey ex-players having a pop in the press and general lack of everyone pulling in the same direction. Let's hope Woodward stays a little longer to mess up the longer term planning and managerial decisions.

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Re: United - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 2018-21: Good Night Sweet Prince
« Reply #27203 on: November 25, 2021, 07:36:28 pm »
Rangnik's the perfect appointment for this squad - they're tailor made to play his brand of football.

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Re: United - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 2018-21: Good Night Sweet Prince
« Reply #27204 on: November 25, 2021, 07:38:33 pm »
They could be frightening when Rangnick gets Ronaldo, Martial and Greenwood initiating the press, backed up with the energy of Pogba and Matic with Maguire marshalling the high line and De Gea sweeping, I'm just delighted we have a bit of a head start on them points wise.

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Re: United - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 2018-21: Good Night Sweet Prince
« Reply #27205 on: November 25, 2021, 07:40:30 pm »
I'm failing to see the plan here to be honest.

If they see him moving on to a DOF role then you're arguably setting him up to fail by forcing him to take on a managerial role for 6 months with a squad of players not even close to what he'd want. Or if he does happen to do well then you risk a call to bring him back if the full time appointment doesn't come out the blocks firing.

It also begs the question why Poch is being named fav to become full time. Firstly he doesn't come across as someone Rangnick would employ to push his brand of football, and secondly seems he was picked before Rangnick was, so you're not including your DOF in one of the main footballing decisions.

Everything just screams a fuck up is on the cards.

Have to agree with this. Ralf Rangnick could be a smart appointment but not as manager. It smacks of a continuation of the confused fuck-ups that led to Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho and Solksjaer getting the job.
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Re: United - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 2018-21: Good Night Sweet Prince
« Reply #27206 on: November 25, 2021, 07:44:17 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ7zEahtgpA

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That whole speech summarized:

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Your show ponys are the polar opposite of motivated geggenpressers. You will need to turn over the entire squad to get to what ralf has in mind. Based on the running and pressing stats, you are dead last in f's given.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27207 on: November 25, 2021, 07:45:19 pm »
No he'll start Rashford and Daniel James lads - tailor made for the system.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27208 on: November 25, 2021, 07:47:36 pm »
No he'll start Rashford and Daniel James lads - tailor made for the system.
That's really going to piss off Bielsa.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27209 on: November 25, 2021, 07:51:12 pm »
That's really going to piss off Bielsa.

And Carlos Tevez. And Ji Sung Park.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27210 on: November 25, 2021, 07:52:16 pm »
He'd be excellent as a DoF or even in Woodwood's place. Makes no sense as a short term managerial appointment.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27211 on: November 25, 2021, 07:54:18 pm »
So Ragnick is at least a man with a plan..  well that’s something they’ve not had for a decade.

But for 6 months? They don’t have the players to fit his plan.  And yes he’s a noted coach, but he’s never been at a club even half as big as Manchester United.  I really do wonder how it will go.

And two years as a consultant? Well they’ve got a director of football, do they not trust him?  I suspect not one iota.
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Re: United - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 2018-21: Good Night Sweet Prince
« Reply #27212 on: November 25, 2021, 07:55:44 pm »
They could be frightening when Rangnick gets Ronaldo, Martial and Greenwood initiating the press, backed up with the energy of Pogba and Matic with Maguire marshalling the high line and De Gea sweeping, I'm just delighted we have a bit of a head start on them points wise.
You forgot to mention Wan Bissaka bombing up the wing, sending in accurate whippy crosses for Ronaldo.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27213 on: November 25, 2021, 08:03:12 pm »
The godfather of the gegenpress? Have they told him he has to start Ronaldo?

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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27214 on: November 25, 2021, 08:09:02 pm »
His training sessions should be interesting.

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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27215 on: November 25, 2021, 08:13:06 pm »
His training sessions should be interesting.

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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27216 on: November 25, 2021, 08:16:42 pm »
Wreck-It-Ralf.

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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27217 on: November 25, 2021, 08:19:01 pm »
If nothing else let’s hope they get a one game ‘bounce’ this weekend.

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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27218 on: November 25, 2021, 08:19:36 pm »
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27219 on: November 25, 2021, 08:32:20 pm »
The laziest team in the league appointing a manager (even if only interim) known for gegenpressing, this should be fun.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27220 on: November 25, 2021, 08:35:46 pm »
If nothing else let’s hope they get a one game ‘bounce’ this weekend.
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Re: United - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 2018-21: Good Night Sweet Prince
« Reply #27221 on: November 25, 2021, 08:56:25 pm »
They could employ Mr Hanky and the media over here would make him out to be the next Messiah.
Hmm, if they made Hanky chief would they become a bogey team? Or would they still be in our pocket?
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27222 on: November 25, 2021, 09:07:01 pm »
meh, they are exactly the type of club to appoint a dof as a manager. Pretty stupid
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27223 on: November 25, 2021, 09:36:09 pm »
Perhaps they’re scared of no longer being able to count our CL titles on one hand when we pick up our next one

It wont be a problem for some of Salford's residents

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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27224 on: November 25, 2021, 09:38:50 pm »
Gets job

Does really well - huge surge, unbeaten run, does well in CL

Gets permanent contract

Puts feet up and it all turns to shit

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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27225 on: November 25, 2021, 09:57:43 pm »
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« Reply #27226 on: November 25, 2021, 09:59:39 pm »
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27227 on: November 25, 2021, 10:03:45 pm »
There’s so much wrong with the club that it’s going to take years to sort out plus their fans don’t have the patience to wait.

Look how long it took Klopp to turn things around here.

There will be a Green and Gold rebellion before the new manager has time to make a real difference; their fans think it’s as simple of finding the right manager and then things will instantly improve.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27228 on: November 25, 2021, 10:13:03 pm »
Gets job

Does really well - huge surge, unbeaten run, does well in CL

Gets permanent contract

Puts feet up and it all turns to shit

Gets job, does really well, they make him DoF and bring in another clueless manager, they don't get along, resigns.

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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27229 on: November 25, 2021, 10:14:02 pm »
I believe this is the same guy who managed Schalk when they were battered by the Mancs in the 2010/2011 UCL semi final, in which was one of the most spineless semi final displays i've witnessed.

Not worried at all.

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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27230 on: November 25, 2021, 10:20:24 pm »
"Press you lazy bastards press."

"Fuck off Ralph !"

Exactly!
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27231 on: November 25, 2021, 10:20:59 pm »
No he'll start Rashford and Daniel James lads - tailor made for the system.

Leeds may be quite pissed off if he does.

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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27232 on: November 25, 2021, 10:23:21 pm »
Leeds may be quite pissed off if he does.
Why? Bielsa might want to give Dan game time in the league rather than the U23s.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27233 on: November 25, 2021, 10:33:40 pm »
So lemme get this right,  Rolf is the Pre-interim short term consultant dof manager/coach in charge of cultural restoration continuity and footballing basics foundational work, inside a click positive commercially oriented social network framework featuring a multi layered sponsorship grid aimed at driving shareholder value in a sustainable and progressive dividend friendly manner?

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Re: United - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - 2018-21: Good Night Sweet Prince
« Reply #27234 on: November 25, 2021, 10:34:36 pm »
They could employ Mr Hanky and the media over here would make him out to be the next Messiah.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27235 on: November 25, 2021, 10:57:16 pm »
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27236 on: November 25, 2021, 11:04:46 pm »
Saw some manc on twitter say that we have the pupil and they have the sensei.  :lmao

I think they're smoking some sensei over there.

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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27237 on: November 25, 2021, 11:10:46 pm »
Saw some manc on twitter say that we have the pupil and they have the sensei.  :lmao

I think they're smoking some sensei over there.
That doesn't even make sensei.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27238 on: November 25, 2021, 11:13:53 pm »
Someone on the Football Ramble made a really good point I think in regards to Ten Haag, who most United fans now seem to want and expect in the Summer.

Basically saying that, despite his current success, he's a long way from being a sure thing when he moves on and that managing Ajax is probably the easiest job in football. This being because they base everything on bringing young players through - young players that have grown up playing the exact same system that the first team plays and are ready to slot in as soon they are good enough. That's clearly completely different to the model that United operate with, so he will need to adapt and adapt fast.
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Re: United - Get Interim - The Rangnik Years... (well, Months maybe)
« Reply #27239 on: November 25, 2021, 11:23:04 pm »
By all I am hearing they are bringing in a top expert for his plan, does this mean the 'united' way is officially dead now I wonder.
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