Author Topic: China - a Fascist State  (Read 75684 times)

Offline Nobby Reserve

  • Onanistic Charades Champion Of Roundabouts. Euphemistic Gerbil Starver.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 11,984
  • Do you wanna build a snowman?
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #520 on: October 21, 2021, 10:34:54 am »
Evergrande shares resumed trading today, after a deal was agreed by Evergrande to sell a controlling stake its property services division for $2.6bn. The deal fell through and Evergrande shares dropped another 14%

They've lost 80% of their value this year.

The company was given a month 'grace period' to make interest payments (in the $billions) due on the debt to it's creditors, and this runs out on Saturday.

Its overall debt in is excess of $300bn (2% of China's entire GDP)

Two smaller real estate companies in China have already gone *pop* this month, but Evergrande dwarfs them.

Globally, there's almost 300 banks and financial institutions that have lent to Evergrande, as well as investors from not just China but around the world who have shareholdings. Then there's the huge number of trade creditors, collectively owed $billions.

Interesting to note that the company was incorporated in the Cayman Isles, where its parent company is still located. I'm guessing the paper shredders are currently running on overtime in Georgetown.

The CCP has told Evergrande not to default, but without the state stepping in, experts think it's inevitable.

If Evergrande were to fail, it would be catastrophic within China - but also send huge economic ripples around the world, perhaps even leading to another credit crunch (although every likely not as substantial as the 2008/9 GFC)

There's a simple summary of the situation here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58976991
A Tory, a worker and an immigrant are sat round a table. There's a plate of 10 biscuits in the middle. The Tory takes 9 then turns to the worker and says "that immigrant is trying to steal your biscuit"

Offline Broad Spectrum

  • Antibiotic
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,633

Offline villagelife

  • 100 degree villageidiot
  • Main Stander
  • ***
  • Posts: 193
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #522 on: October 27, 2021, 10:37:06 pm »

Offline Broad Spectrum

  • Antibiotic
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,633
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #523 on: November 19, 2021, 10:58:08 am »
As concern grows for Peng Shuai, in China her story is barely a whisper

Awful story, this is a professional athlete who by the sounds of it has been imprisoned for speaking out against being sexually assaulted.

Offline Nobby Reserve

  • Onanistic Charades Champion Of Roundabouts. Euphemistic Gerbil Starver.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 11,984
  • Do you wanna build a snowman?
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #524 on: November 19, 2021, 11:48:22 am »
As concern grows for Peng Shuai, in China her story is barely a whisper

Awful story, this is a professional athlete who by the sounds of it has been imprisoned for speaking out against being sexually assaulted.


It's shocking, but hardly surprising.

The dictatorship there is one of the most evil in the world.
A Tory, a worker and an immigrant are sat round a table. There's a plate of 10 biscuits in the middle. The Tory takes 9 then turns to the worker and says "that immigrant is trying to steal your biscuit"

Online Mister Flip Flop

  • More flop than flip.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 9,763
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #525 on: November 19, 2021, 01:14:28 pm »
As concern grows for Peng Shuai, in China her story is barely a whisper

Awful story, this is a professional athlete who by the sounds of it has been imprisoned for speaking out against being sexually assaulted.

A complete sh1thouse of a "government". The things they are doing to Muslims wouldn't be out of place in in 1939 Germany.
Soccer - let's face it, its not really about a game of ball anymore is it?

Offline Sangria

  • In trying to be right ends up wrong without fail
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 19,109
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #526 on: November 19, 2021, 01:26:27 pm »

It's shocking, but hardly surprising.

The dictatorship there is one of the most evil in the world.

A USSR for the 21st century.
"i just dont think (Lucas is) that type of player that Kenny wants"
Vidocq, 20 January 2011

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=267148.msg8032258#msg8032258

Offline Nobby Reserve

  • Onanistic Charades Champion Of Roundabouts. Euphemistic Gerbil Starver.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 11,984
  • Do you wanna build a snowman?
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #527 on: November 19, 2021, 02:22:45 pm »
A USSR for the 21st century.


Similarities, yes. The biggest difference is that even most people can see how evil they are, we put our devotion to cheap gadgets and shiny tat a million miles above any principles. That enriches them and gives them the money that they use to become even more powerful and spread their evil influence and control outwards.

The question is, how do we stop them before our own personal freedoms find themselves in their crosshairs?
A Tory, a worker and an immigrant are sat round a table. There's a plate of 10 biscuits in the middle. The Tory takes 9 then turns to the worker and says "that immigrant is trying to steal your biscuit"

Offline Red-Soldier

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 16,698
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #528 on: November 19, 2021, 03:11:44 pm »
A USSR for the 21st century.

They've grown powerful from the West's desire for rampant consumerism (cheap goods)!

They recognised years ago that they could explot this for their own gain!

Online BarryCrocker

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 17,127
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #529 on: November 19, 2021, 10:09:48 pm »

Similarities, yes. The biggest difference is that even most people can see how evil they are, we put our devotion to cheap gadgets and shiny tat a million miles above any principles. That enriches them and gives them the money that they use to become even more powerful and spread their evil influence and control outwards.

The question is, how do we stop them before our own personal freedoms find themselves in their crosshairs?

Governments and authorities are always harping on about how illegal drugs fund terrorists. Nothing ever said about how the west firstly relies on China for so many things, while at the same time funding a government who actively uses that foreign income to expand their reach and rule.
And all the world is football shaped, It's just for me to kick in space. And I can see, hear, smell, touch, taste.

Offline TSC

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 25,477
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #530 on: November 19, 2021, 11:03:43 pm »
As concern grows for Peng Shuai, in China her story is barely a whisper

Awful story, this is a professional athlete who by the sounds of it has been imprisoned for speaking out against being sexually assaulted.

Seen a report on the news last night.  Awful stuff.  Hope she’s still alive but wouldn’t be surprised if she’s not seen again.

Offline SouthDerryLaggo

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,642
  • Enjoy these times
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #531 on: November 23, 2021, 03:44:19 pm »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-59385519

at least she appears to be alive. God knows whats going on off camera though
YNWA

Offline Nobby Reserve

  • Onanistic Charades Champion Of Roundabouts. Euphemistic Gerbil Starver.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 11,984
  • Do you wanna build a snowman?
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #532 on: December 9, 2021, 08:54:11 pm »
A Tory, a worker and an immigrant are sat round a table. There's a plate of 10 biscuits in the middle. The Tory takes 9 then turns to the worker and says "that immigrant is trying to steal your biscuit"

Offline stara

  • ra-boom-de-ay. RAWK's very own Dicktionary Corner.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,687
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #533 on: December 10, 2021, 04:46:08 pm »
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/MFevDazKUQ0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/MFevDazKUQ0</a>
50+1. Real FFP rules. Now.

Offline TSC

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 25,477
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop

Offline Nobby Reserve

  • Onanistic Charades Champion Of Roundabouts. Euphemistic Gerbil Starver.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 11,984
  • Do you wanna build a snowman?
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #535 on: December 30, 2021, 04:49:16 pm »
It's on the 'very mild' side of the evil that these fascist shitstains commit, but how petty is this:

"Footballers who play for China's national team have been banned from getting tattoos - and advised to remove ones they have - under a new directive."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-59827047

The vile scum running the country say the move will set a "good example for society".

As will forcing female sports stars into sexual relationships with senior Party officials, I guess.
A Tory, a worker and an immigrant are sat round a table. There's a plate of 10 biscuits in the middle. The Tory takes 9 then turns to the worker and says "that immigrant is trying to steal your biscuit"

Offline So… Howard Philips

  • Penile Toupé Extender. Notoriously work-shy, copper-bottomed pervert.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 23,146
  • All I want for Christmas is a half and half scarf
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #536 on: December 30, 2021, 05:09:14 pm »

Offline Barrow Shaun

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,653
  • Off the coach, through the park.....
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #537 on: January 4, 2022, 10:01:37 pm »
Not sure if this link has been posted anywhere, but this alone tells you all you need to know about the title of this thread, and this is just in one area.....

https://xinjiang.sppga.ubc.ca/

Includes very many harrowing testimonies, state media statements, etc, etc, etc....
officially accepted RAWK source of information

Offline CornerFlag

  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,649
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #538 on: January 25, 2022, 08:29:41 pm »
Just been reading about how Fight Club has had its ending changed in China to appease their authorities.



Admittedly small-time, but a sign of just how micro-managed certain situations are.
My Twitter

Last time I went there I saw masturbating chimpanzees. Whether you think that's worthy of £22 is up to you. All I'll say is I now have an annual pass.

Offline killer-heels

  • Hates everyone and everything. Including YOU! Negativity not just for Christmas. Thinks 'irony' means 'metallic'......
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 76,549
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #539 on: January 25, 2022, 09:13:39 pm »
Ha!

Offline Broad Spectrum

  • Antibiotic
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,633
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #540 on: January 27, 2022, 03:03:17 pm »

Offline Yorkykopite

  • Misses Danny Boy with a passion. Phil's Official Biographer, dontcherknow...it's all true. Honestly.
  • RAWK Writer
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 34,479
  • The first five yards........
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #541 on: February 1, 2022, 05:07:15 pm »
Chinese imperialism in Africa. They will strip that continent of all its got if they are allowed.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/01/sierra-leone-families-starving-chinese-trawlers-industrial-overfishing-destroying-lives
"If you want the world to love you don't discuss Middle Eastern politics" Saul Bellow.

Offline killer-heels

  • Hates everyone and everything. Including YOU! Negativity not just for Christmas. Thinks 'irony' means 'metallic'......
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 76,549
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #542 on: February 1, 2022, 05:14:28 pm »
Cannot trust China at all. Ridiculous how countries and brands pander to them.

Offline lobsterboy

  • Sworn enemy of crayfishgirl. Likes to draw spunking cocks n balls at sunday school
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,891
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #543 on: February 2, 2022, 01:21:32 pm »
Cannot trust China at all. Ridiculous how countries and brands pander to them.

Yet everyone still wants the latest iWank device, nike gear and cheap shit off Amazon.
Public has to force their leaders and their brands to change, they won't do it while they make profits.
We have seen just how dumb and selfish so many are here alone (the UK not rawk!) so don't hold your breath it will change.

Offline Nobby Reserve

  • Onanistic Charades Champion Of Roundabouts. Euphemistic Gerbil Starver.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 11,984
  • Do you wanna build a snowman?
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #544 on: February 2, 2022, 05:23:19 pm »
Yet everyone still wants the latest iWank device, nike gear and cheap shit off Amazon.
Public has to force their leaders and their brands to change, they won't do it while they make profits.
We have seen just how dumb and selfish so many are here alone (the UK not rawk!) so don't hold your breath it will change.



Because people have limited funds but are brainwashed by the consumerist society we live in, where 'having stuff' is the key judging criteria for people being successful, they will continue to seek out the cheapest ways of securing that 'stuff', and not care where it comes from/was manufactured. Similarly, if multinational corporations can improve profit margins whilst fucking the wider consequences, then they will do it (and that impact trickles down to smaller and smaller companies who have to outsource production to China/sweatshops to compete)

It's up to governments to impose tariffs on goods coming in from certain countries.

But that bird flew years ago. The transfer of wealth from 'the west' to China and other such sweatshop economies has been immeasurable. In doing so, 'the west' has signed its own economic death warrant.
A Tory, a worker and an immigrant are sat round a table. There's a plate of 10 biscuits in the middle. The Tory takes 9 then turns to the worker and says "that immigrant is trying to steal your biscuit"

Offline Sangria

  • In trying to be right ends up wrong without fail
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 19,109
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #545 on: February 2, 2022, 05:38:24 pm »


Because people have limited funds but are brainwashed by the consumerist society we live in, where 'having stuff' is the key judging criteria for people being successful, they will continue to seek out the cheapest ways of securing that 'stuff', and not care where it comes from/was manufactured. Similarly, if multinational corporations can improve profit margins whilst fucking the wider consequences, then they will do it (and that impact trickles down to smaller and smaller companies who have to outsource production to China/sweatshops to compete)

It's up to governments to impose tariffs on goods coming in from certain countries.

But that bird flew years ago. The transfer of wealth from 'the west' to China and other such sweatshop economies has been immeasurable. In doing so, 'the west' has signed its own economic death warrant.

Are we back in the 18th century?
"i just dont think (Lucas is) that type of player that Kenny wants"
Vidocq, 20 January 2011

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=267148.msg8032258#msg8032258

Offline John C

  • RAWK Staff
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 42,259
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #546 on: February 3, 2022, 05:30:59 pm »
Flippin hec, a busy couple of days and I miss all the fun.

Offline Perkinsonian

  • Kopite
  • *****
  • Posts: 544
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #547 on: February 3, 2022, 05:36:09 pm »
 
Flippin hec, a busy couple of days and I miss all the fun.
;D

Offline Andy82lfc

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,518
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #548 on: February 3, 2022, 05:44:32 pm »
Cannot trust China at all. Ridiculous how countries and brands pander to them.

Absolutely. The biggest world crisis in my lifetime came from China. They have done hardly a thing to stop the wet markets and trade of wild animals that are the most likely cause. The rest of the world has not batted an eyelid accept to pour billions into the country to produce cheap materials for the pandemic (something really messed up about that) while the source of it remains as it was without the slightest pressure to reform. Pander is not even close to the word I would use.

Now let's throw an Olympic games to forget about it all, but don't say anything about us or you will go on the bad list.

Offline Sangria

  • In trying to be right ends up wrong without fail
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 19,109
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #549 on: February 3, 2022, 05:45:37 pm »
Absolutely. The biggest world crisis in my lifetime came from China. They have done hardly a thing to stop the wet markets and trade of wild animals that are the most likely cause. The rest of the world has not batted an eyelid accept to pour billions into the country to produce cheap materials for the pandemic (something really messed up about that) while the source of it remains as it was without the slightest pressure to reform. Pander is not even close to the word I would use.

How about panda?
"i just dont think (Lucas is) that type of player that Kenny wants"
Vidocq, 20 January 2011

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=267148.msg8032258#msg8032258

Offline Yorkykopite

  • Misses Danny Boy with a passion. Phil's Official Biographer, dontcherknow...it's all true. Honestly.
  • RAWK Writer
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 34,479
  • The first five yards........
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #550 on: February 3, 2022, 06:13:35 pm »
Flippin hec, a busy couple of days and I miss all the fun.

Where the hell were you John. RAWK was annexed by a foreign power. We were slowly being brainwashed into believing Everton have won 6 European Cups.
"If you want the world to love you don't discuss Middle Eastern politics" Saul Bellow.

Offline WhereAngelsPlay

  • Rockwool Marketing Board Spokesman. Cracker Wanker. Fucking calmest man on RAWK, alright? ALRIGHT?! Definitely a bigger cunt than YOU!
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 26,458
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #551 on: February 3, 2022, 06:17:36 pm »
My cup, it runneth over, I'll never get my fill

Offline afc tukrish

  • How long for them sausages? Maggie May's Mythical Turkish Delight. RAWK's Expert Sausage Monster! Oakley Cannonier is fucking boss. Likes blowing his friends and undoing their nuts? Who nose?!
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 16,943
  • This looks like a nice spot...
    • Flat Back Four
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #552 on: February 3, 2022, 07:12:38 pm »
Flippin hec, a busy couple of days and I miss all the fun.

 ;D
Since haste quite Schorsch, but Liverpool are genuine fight pigs...

Offline John C

  • RAWK Staff
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 42,259
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #553 on: February 3, 2022, 07:41:18 pm »
 ;D

Offline Andy82lfc

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,518
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #554 on: February 3, 2022, 10:34:44 pm »

Offline ChaChaMooMoo

  • From doubters to believers - Klopp 2015
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,890
  • Justice shall prevail.
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #555 on: February 7, 2022, 09:43:56 am »
Just been reading about how Fight Club has had its ending changed in China to appease their authorities.

Admittedly small-time, but a sign of just how micro-managed certain situations are.

China's Tencent restores Fight Club ending after backlash
BBC

Quote
Chinese streaming giant Tencent has reinstated the original ending of a Hollywood movie after a censored version last month sparked backlash.

The original ending to the 1999 film Fight Club shows the narrator killing his imaginary alter-ego, before bombs destroyed buildings in a subversive plot to reorder society.

But China's version showed a message onscreen saying the authorities won.

The decision sparked intense debate about cinematic censorship in China.

The latest version on Tencent reportedly restores about 11 of the 12 minutes that were cut. According to news site SCMP, the scenes that remained cut are those that involve nudity.

The cult classic, directed by David Fincher, stars Edward Norton as the narrator and Brad Pitt as his alter ego, Tyler Durden.

Last month's release of the film also showed a message saying the police foiled the plot, arrested the criminals and sent Durden to a "lunatic asylum".

It had said: "Through the clue provided by Tyler, the police rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all criminals, successfully preventing the bomb from exploding."

The censored ending drew ire from both human rights groups and Chinese viewers who had previously seen pirated versions of the original.

Human Rights Watch described the changes as "dystopian". Chuck Palahniuk, who wrote the 1996 novel that Fight Club was adapted from, wrote sarcastically on Twitter: "This is SUPER wonderful! Everyone gets a happy ending in China!"

The author added on Substack: "How amazing. I'd no idea! Justice always wins. Nothing ever exploded. Fini."

It is not uncommon for Chinese broadcasters to censor anything that may be deemed politically or culturally sensitive.

Last year's Friends: The Reunion special saw several cuts being made by Chinese censors, including scenes with Lady Gaga. The pop star's repertoire was banned from mainland China after she met the Dalai Lama in June, who is considered a separatist by Chinese authorities.

However, it is less common for them to change an ending, and rarer still to see those cuts reversed.

Offline Broad Spectrum

  • Antibiotic
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,633
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #556 on: February 24, 2022, 05:38:21 pm »
Is Taiwan Next?

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine makes the frightening possibility of China seizing control of the island more real.

Offline Sudden Death Draft Loser

  • old and annoying
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 9,483
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #557 on: February 24, 2022, 05:40:27 pm »
Is Taiwan Next?

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine makes the frightening possibility of China seizing control of the island more real.
Quote
the long American struggle against global authoritarian threats seemed to have been won.

 :lmao

God bless America the "whiter than white" defenders of world peace and democracy

 :butt
"The greatest argument against democracy is to have a five minute conversation  with the average voter. "

Offline Broad Spectrum

  • Antibiotic
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,633
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #558 on: February 24, 2022, 05:45:07 pm »
:lmao

God bless America the "whiter than white" defenders of world peace and democracy

 :butt


Offline stevensr123

  • bedwetter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 7,794
Re: China - a Fascist State
« Reply #559 on: February 24, 2022, 05:46:03 pm »
China's state-run TV just ran a show saying that Ukraine's fate is that of Taiwan so, yeah, things are going great.
PUSSY cat, PUSSY cat, I love you,  yes I do.......