Topic: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022

[TeddyTime33]

I forgot to say after all the trouble getting in the pat down was like that gif on Twitter. You know the one.
So obviously not that arsed about the security in the end.

local steward's caught in between the police and fans, probably on a shit wage too and feeling the effects for gas, not surprised they weren't arsed

[John C]

Out of curiosity did gate Z tickets scan at the other places e.g Y?

We had Z, moved to Y due to the chaos, to experience more chaos. Mine didn't scan and ironically the bloke on the gate told me to "go under" the turnstile (although he may have been trained to recognise a gen ticket) but my lads did scan ok.

[Dagro]

After reading others posts here, and the countless others on social media, i was incredibly lucky to not get caught up in any real trouble. But it was just that, luck.

We got to the ground at around 6.20, as a couple of the lads in our group wanted 1 of those final caps, and thought they could get them from those merchandise tents on the concourse by the stadium.

The tent was opposite our gate, which was B and at around 6.30 we saw those gangs try and storm the gate. Those metal barriers they had laid out in lanes leading to the gates were manned by 1 person. He couldn't of been more then 18. All these local lads did was go further down the barriers, and ragged them apart, then there was another wave of lads who ran through and hurdled the turnstiles. Some of these got up the stairs to the upper tiers. The ones that were caught and apprehended were just shoved back out of the gate, no arrests or being detained, so essentially they could try and again later.

At this point our group made the decision to go in, as we thought it would get worse. This was around 6.50, and still took 40 minutes to get through the gates, they didn't close the gate at this point but had more security there who blocked the entrance.

On exiting the stadium i think what saved us was that we went to the other station to use the RER D line.

Just on a side issue and a minor one compared to others experiences, but i didn't feel safe in the upper tiers with the way the seat are. Because they didn't fold up there was no room for people to pass by. 3 times in that 1st half people behind me went over the seats in front.

[UntouchableLuis]

Did anyone manage to get any compensation from Coach Innovations then who ended up missing it entirely?

[MKB]

Just on a side issue and a minor one compared to others experiences, but i didn't feel safe in the upper tiers with the way the seat are. Because they didn't fold up there was no room for people to pass by. 3 times in that 1st half people behind me went over the seats in front.

Was only in the middle tier that wasn't so steep, but it was still lethal.  There were about 40+ seats between the narrow aisles, and I had to walk along the non-flat seats themselves to get out.  I nearly went over three times, but was saved by grabbing onto shoulders of those in front or being caught by another fan.  This ground would never have got a health-and-safety certificate in the UK.

[Dagro]

Was only in the middle tier that wasn't so steep, but it was still lethal.  There were about 40+ seats between the narrow aisles, and I had to walk along the non-flat seats themselves to get out.  I nearly went over three times, but was saved by grabbing onto shoulders of those in front or being caught by another fan.  This ground would never have got a health-and-safety certificate in the UK.

Thats what everyone was doing in the upper, problem was the seats became wet with the spilled beer, so were slippy.

[ScubaSteve]

Out of curiosity did gate Z tickets scan at the other places e.g Y?
Some inside were saying Z was shut and to go to another entrance but most of us didn’t fancy losing our place for a wild goose chase. A few came back and said it didn’t work. Just wondering if it did or not?
And if it did-how far did you have to go, because at one point I gave up in Z and tried but the other gates near were shut as well.

I held out at gate Z as at one point I was right at the entrance. I thought we weren’t gonna get in so i walked off about 9pm paris time then got a call off the missus to say they’d be opening the gates once things were more organised inside. They opened gate A and I had no bother getting in 

[TeddyTime33]

I held out at gate Z as at one point I was right at the entrance. I thought we weren’t gonna get in so i walked off about 9pm paris time then got a call off the missus to say they’d be opening the gates once things were more organised inside. They opened gate A and I had no bother getting in

in reality I should've done that to avoid the carnage at gate Y but I was also fearful of the locals surrounding us so didn't really wanna leave the crowd of lfc fans

[TeddyTime33]

Was only in the middle tier that wasn't so steep, but it was still lethal.  There were about 40+ seats between the narrow aisles, and I had to walk along the non-flat seats themselves to get out.  I nearly went over three times, but was saved by grabbing onto shoulders of those in front or being caught by another fan.  This ground would never have got a health-and-safety certificate in the UK.

hosting the Olympics in 2 years too, I was looking at going too and I will absolutely not be now, think I'll save for the World Cup in 2026 instead

[ScubaSteve]

in reality I should've done that to avoid the carnage at gate Y but I was also fearful of the locals surrounding us so didn't really wanna leave the crowd of lfc fans

Yeah Z was becoming a pressure pot but the lads around me were fantastic, kept everything in order. I walked to a side street to take a call and it was closed off for other people from entering and the riot police where in their numbers so I headed back towards our fans. As I got to A, they opened the one side gate so I walked from the side and queued. Got in as the players were doing their second warm up!
Really thought we weren’t getting in, loads crying everywhere whilst the locals ran amok

[jizzspunk]

When was this bollocks about standing on seats a thing? was in Z3 near the rear..about 10 continuous rows in front of me all standing on seats..a fucking nonsense that 👎

[aedge659]

Got to ground at around 6.30, thought that would be early enough to get in easy enough. But the under pass bit where there was like 4 people checking tickets was already rammed, moving steadily but was worried about people arriving later making that even more unsafe. Finally got through after like 45 minutes, thought thank fuck we're through that. Only to arrive at gate Y and find a queue of around 200 at the point, thought oh still plenty of time, it'll go down steadily. Then proceeded to spend the next two hours barely moving, they were opening and closing like one gate. We were all getting more impatient but to be fair we were amazingly behaved considering the situation. Just lots of us asking what the fuck is going on. Got relatively near the front and heared shouts of tear gas, got a brief waft of it. Stewards and police just standing there, no information being given. Saw the odd person bunking in and trying blag tickets but not enough to keep all us genuine ones with tickets waiting for hours. I got in the ground literally bang on kick off and my head just wasn't in it. Fuck UEFA, fuck the French.

[KevLFC]

Got to ground at around 6.30, thought that would be early enough to get in easy enough. But the under pass bit where there was like 4 people checking tickets was already rammed, moving steadily but was worried about people arriving later making that even more unsafe. Finally got through after like 45 minutes, thought thank fuck we're through that. Only to arrive at gate Y and find a queue of around 200 at the point, thought oh still plenty of time, it'll go down steadily. Then proceeded to spend the next two hours barely moving, they were opening and closing like one gate. We were all getting more impatient but to be fair we were amazingly behaved considering the situation. Just lots of us asking what the fuck is going on. Got relatively near the front and heared shouts of tear gas, got a brief waft of it. Stewards and police just standing there, no information being given. Saw the odd person bunking in and trying blag tickets but not enough to keep all us genuine ones with tickets waiting for hours. I got in the ground literally bang on kick off and my head just wasn't in it. Fuck UEFA, fuck the French.

I just don't get it. Did they think all the Liverpool fans had fake tickets or something? Were they scared after what happened at Wembley with England happening to them?

[keano7]

I just don't get it. Did they think all the Liverpool fans had fake tickets or something? Were they scared after what happened at Wembley with England happening to them?

It’s because a significant number of local had tried to bunk in (many successfully) that they decided to go 180 degrees the other way. It had very little to do with fake tickets and it’s one of many of UEFA’s unsubstantiated excuses for a complete fuck up which could have had even worse consequences than what we experienced last night.

[jwilstroplfc]

Got to the stadium at just before 6 with my Dad….relatively quick at that point getting up that ramp for a beer …10 mins later watching over the wall to the entrance we had just been through you could see it building up and the bottle neck back towards the vans and you could sense it wasn’t right ….became more crowded as time went on with people joining from the Madrid end on the path. We went through Z and again on at the point we went in ….saw the message about kick off so I went out to the fence at 9pm
local time to see gates shut and police peppering our fans for no reason whatsoever!
Thought the riot police coming out 5 mins to go was ridiculous and pretty intimidating and added to a tense atmosphere all around. Up to this point I thought we had made a good decision being early …that’s where the good decisions ended …after the game went down the ramp and turned right to go up to the metro as was an easier way home …bad decision . Met by locals charging , attacking anyone they could do we had to leg it and hide behind a row of police vans and try head back to the RER D. Not one police officer helping , sorting the situation or trying to guide where to go safely. When we did get there other lads saying there were more locals on the platform with knives / bottles etc and not a police presence in sight!
Still on coach now and trying not to let it spoil what was at first a brilliant day around the centre and fan zone. Outskirts of Paris and Saint Denis …wow

[bornandbRED]

Our cab driver yesterday was a PSG home and away fan, from St Denis. He told us it is the ‘hottest’ part of Paris and that lots of locals (including his mates) would be trying to storm the ground before kick off, effectively predicting exactly what happened. 

[TeddyTime33]

Our cab driver yesterday was a PSG home and away fan, from St Denis. He told us it is the ‘hottest’ part of Paris and that lots of locals (including his mates) would be trying to storm the ground before kick off, effectively predicting exactly what happened.

Euro 2016 final seemed to go off without a hitch so something broke down massively here

[BobPaisley3]

In the words of one of my mates who went the game, it was like an episode of spiral on crack.

[Alf]

Out of curiosity did gate Z tickets scan at the other places e.g Y?
Some inside were saying Z was shut and to go to another entrance but most of us didn’t fancy losing our place for a wild goose chase. A few came back and said it didn’t work. Just wondering if it did or not?
And if it did-how far did you have to go, because at one point I gave up in Z and tried but the other gates near were shut as well.

My ticket for Z worked in block A.

At the first check point they said my ticket was a forgery, bought it in the first sale and the operator the first person since I'd opened the envelope to touch the ticket, when I challenged this they called the supervisor over who took one look & let me through. I suspect a few had tickets confiscated that were genuine in similar circumstances.

[WanderingRed]

https://xcancel.com/srfc_infinity35/status/1531000939733196800?s=21&t=rMMh-QjUWG-S-kml415edQ

Not directly related but calls into question the need for all the riot police at the end.

Hopefully the club use this response in some form or another

[Luke 17]

My experience was a little different to others... got to the fanzone via taxi at about 1pm. my dad met his mates an they came in on the metro when he rang me an said his tickets been stolen out of his zipped pocket(ironically they left his bank card in the same pocket an just took the ticket) an as soon as he said that my day was ruined. Worst thing is my Dad was completely sober an he is very clued up on stuff like that so he pretty much had no chance. We went to the stadium to see if we could do anything an after fucking about on the metro an walking round the stadium we got to the uefa ticket office at about 4.45pm. We passed the underpass on the way an the police didn't have it blocked off at that point, I did think at the time though if thats the only entrance up that ramp its going to be chaos later on. So anyway speaks to Uefa official tells them what happens etc he says nothing they can do(to be fair there was about 5 of them an i feel like if they could of helped they would of) The guy in charge seemed quite official he actually said if the ticket was on mobile he would be able to cancel it but he can't do anything about the paper ticket. He said Liverpool requested the tickets to be paper tickets he mentioned the last few finals have all been tickets on the phones? an in future thats how they want to go but they honored Liverpools request this time.

So then we went and sat on a bench near the stadium absolutely gutted, sat there for about an hour or so didn't really speak didn't feel like eating or drinking. Couldn't enjoy the day at all. I watched as loads of different types of fans walked up to the stadium from the metro. seen groups of locals walking round with Man utd tops on which I thought was weird. Waited for my mates to leave fanzone to come meet us, there day was shite aswell because they knew what had happened an it killed the mood completely for them also they didn't know what to say it was like a funeral. I've been following Liverpool home and away now since I was old enough to go on my own in 2010 its my life I don't miss many games an I nearly fucked it off an sold my ticket so my Dad wasn't on his own, I was gutted I wanted to go in but i didn't want to leave him either it wasn't a nice situation to be in.

So anyway my dad was adamant i had to go in an he will be fine hes going back to our hotel etc. So at 7.30pm i made my way to the stadium with my dads mate which was about 5 mins away. I was able to go in via different entrance than the one I had seen earlier up the narrow ramp, this entrance had a ticket check an it was still under a tunnel but it was on the other side of the stadium just before the A turnstile an there was more room. They checked my ticket an did the pen with UV light to let us through. I seen some locals trying their luck trying to get past. I'd say at that point it was busy but not really really busy where it was unsafe.

The next bit now is where I realised I am most likely not getting into the ground before kickoff. My dads mates ticket was for A so he went an got in that queue, mine was for Z and I walked down an seen the gates were shut an it looked dangerous an overcrowded. I stood in the open space bit between A and B on the corner an just watched from a distance in the hope they speeded things up an queues went down, I rang a few friends etc to say this doesn't look good am not sure everyone is going to get in on time etc. I was actually thinking to myself the only way I can get in here is if I jump over the fence, an I bet a lot of others who had genuine tickets were thinking the same thing. I observed an seen a lot of people who looked worried/scared. I also knew that my ticket wouldn't scan at another turnstile because they specifically said your ticket will only scan at the turnstile on your ticket so I had no idea how I was getting in. I seen loads of riot police running in formation towards Z and Y an was fearing the worst. I seen a fight outside A to the side an heard someone shout hes got a knife pointing at a french looking guy, the police grabbed him an there was a bit of commotion going on but I didn't want to get to close.

Next minute I think it was either B or C but there seemed to be a gate opened an loads of people flooded in, few tried to climb the fence an the tear gas was deployed. I was about 70m away from this gate an still the tear gas reached me. I went inside the restaurant/bar on the corner an put some water on my eyes in the toilets, decided if I was inside i'd be safer from any tear gas. At this point now I was resigned to the fact that I was most likely not getting in an the news came through kickoff was delayed. It was about 8.50pm an The screen inside the bar showed our end with loads of empty seats an I looked through the window an seen the queues still to get in. I text mates to see if they was in an they had just got in but were shaken up etc. My mate said try gate C ive just got in there so at about 9.20 I went to C an walked straight up to the turnstile an give the security guy my ticket who ripped the top off an let me under the turnstile. I was at least in but still didn't feel very safe. Managed to find my mate an we stood in an empty seat. My ticket was for behind the goal an I was now on line with the corner flag so nowhere near my seat. There was a fence blocking u off moving around also.

Didn't enjoy the game one bit just felt completely flat after what had happened getting in and the whole day, didn't care to much about the result just wanted to get out safely an was praying everyone was ok. The police lining up at our end was just odd it was like they wanted something to happen. Then coming out after the game they didn't have all the gates open that they could of had to get everyone out smoothly. Underneath the passage loads of locals looking for fights etc with our fans, loads of bottles an things thrown, tear gas going on all sorts. Walked down the tunnel which was blocked by police vans an funnelled into a smaller exit was just fucking odd. All the horrible c*nts standing there with their shields and bats ready to hit anyone who dared even look in their direction. There was loads of shady people about on that walk an we just kept walking to the metro an jumped on the train to the airport an I've never been so happy to get away.

I'll never ever go back to that stadium or that part of Paris ever again what an absolute shithole. It's also made me think is it really worth it anymore. I go the football to enjoy myself i've had some great times over the years but it's getting less an less enjoyable an i'm just thinking whats the point? Madrid an Kiev were fantastic because they had great organisation. I had a great time at both. But this was the worst experience at a game i've ever had.

[RedMan2107]

Got there for about 6ish stuck on the bottom ramp until they searched people , got into the ground fairly easy though B , our block was a nightmare though must have been 50 locals all in there taking people's seats , standing on the stairs , stewards wasn't instrested one bit , like most heart wasn't really in the game after everything that had gone on.

After the game the metro was a nightmare , lads getting watches snatched , bags snatched then the police turned up and locked US on a ramp pulling pepper spray out kids crying and all sorts , police were a disgrace.

Also like a few have said paris is a shithole won't be rushing back there.

[End Product]

Tackled a local who jibbed in on the stairs outisde the staduim, broke me sunglasses the big twat. Got the cough your fucking lungs out treatment from macrons boys after the game. Then had me phone tried to be nicked by a fella who looked like he kidnapped tom hanks under that underpass from mordor. 500 quid to be treated like an animal, was not even arsed with the match so stressed ouf from the whole thing.

[Jaska]

This on the BBC, loads of other similar stories...

Took my 84 year old mum to the game last night. She's been a Liverpool supporter her whole life but this was her first European final. We got to the ground at 18.30 local time and she was in her wheelchair. We both had genuine tickets but were told they were fake and when she asked the police office to hand her ticket back she was pepper sprayed and rolled off behind a cage so she could "calm down". When she tried to leave one of the police officers put some sort of bike lock around her wheelchair and this wasn't released until the game was finished. The whole trip cost me £5000. I was in Madrid and it was organised so well but this was just an absolute disgrace.

Will, Liverpool (currently Paris)

Holy shit. Absolutely shocking.

[John C]

Phil Scraton has started a thread in the main forum, it would be a good idea if all horror stories and informative evidence can be contained in there.
https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=352606.0

Loads of us only just got home yesterday so were a bit chocka.

[Roughie Scouse]

couldnt agree more just spoke to my brother in law who went with my 14 yr old niece he’s on route home said the French police stewards and organisation an absolute joke but the behaviour of some of so called fans an absolute disgrace ticketless no marks with no respect or safety for fellow fans he said he hopes these scrotes get what their deserve for spoiling and embarrassing lfc and the 99% of magnificent supporters Yes he said the organisation and policing was rank but these no marks fuelled it he said if  some videos come out of their behaviour we’re in gig trouble

Exactly this.

[tarkens]

My experience was very similar to everything you've already read in here

Me and my mate arrived around 7:15pm and walked from the station to Stade de France, there were no signs or anything so we just followed the crowd, we walked underneath the tunnel (there were no checkpoints there at that point, edit: looking at the map now, it looks like a different tunnel, so I don't think we walked through the area where bottleneck was) and saw the LFC coach heading to the stadium. We continued to the stadium and since there were no signs telling you where your gate is we just joined other Liverpool fans queuing at the ramp leading to gate Y (my ticket was in B, my mate's in Y).
We assumed it's a queue to a ticket checkpoint but I still don't know if it was. 5 minutes in and police deployed tear gas for absolutely no reason, we said fuck it and tried to find another way, ended up in a narrow street leading up to gates B and C, there was a ticket checkpoint there, it was an absolute chocker, however at around 8:20pm we managed to get through.
I joined the massive queue at gate B and my mate went to gate Y.

I spent 1h10min in that queue, during that time I saw some locals and our fans jumping the gate from the side, but there weren't too many of them, 10 people max. The bahaviour of people in the queue was amazing, everyone was calm, just shouting occasional 'fuck UEFA' to camera crews, calling out rat behaviour of people trying to jump the fence or pushing from behind. They opened the gate at around 9:10-9:15 I think, there was a fan in a wheelchair we let through ahead of us, however turnstiles at gate B aren't wheelchair-friendly so they had to lift him from a wheelchair and through turnstiles, while his wheelchair was carried over turnstiles.

Got to my seat in B while Camila Cabello was on and texted my mate if he's in. Didn't get a reply until HT, unfortunately at around 9:55pm he decided to swerve it as he said it was getting increasingly dangerous at gate Y with riot police becoming more and more hostile and more local youths arriving from everywhere, he went back to the station to watch second half somewhere in town...
I felt not only for my mate but also for myself as I'm not gonna lie, I didn't fancy going back on my own after what I've just witnessed outside the stadium, so I was completely out of it second half. Sad to say but I'm glad we didn't equalise, I just wanted to get out of there as soon as possible.
I legged it as soon as the ref blew for FT and sounds like I avoided further trouble. I sat on the train at 11:39pm, probably less than 10 minutes after FT, and it felt good.

Third world country, shithole of a city, definitely not coming back

[DangerScouse]

couldnt agree more just spoke to my brother in law who went with my 14 yr old niece he’s on route home said the French police stewards and organisation an absolute joke but the behaviour of some of so called fans an absolute disgrace ticketless no marks with no respect or safety for fellow fans he said he hopes these scrotes get what their deserve for spoiling and embarrassing lfc and the 99% of magnificent supporters Yes he said the organisation and policing was rank but these no marks fuelled it he said if  some videos come out of their behaviour we’re in gig trouble

Not my experience. Vast, vast majority was locals almost causing crushes at the gates trying to force their way in. It was left to us to police the c*nts.

[banksybanks]

Not my experience. Vast, vast majority was locals almost causing crushes at the gates trying to force their way in. It was left to us to police the c*nts.

Same here - there were some reds bunking in, but maybe 5-10 in the almost 2hrs we were queuing at Y.

If we hadn't been so calm, calling for everyone to go slowly etc it would've turned into something really unpleasant.

[TeddyTime33]

Not my experience. Vast, vast majority was locals almost causing crushes at the gates trying to force their way in. It was left to us to police the c*nts.

locals rushed the turnstiles and gates clearly organsied, a few bad reds trying to bunk (completely unacceptable and shouldn't have got near the stadium) did not cause the carnage outside

[Billy Elliot]

Five of my family went, so going by what they've told me - and the various posts - video's etc. I'll sum it up, and you can tell me if I'm wrong.

Around 40 French lads jumped the fence and around 20 of our lot seen the opportunity and went for it. The area was packed but they completely closed gates Y and Z.

There was a fault with Z and they couldn't re-open it. Gate Y was re-opened around 90 minutes later. There was no police or stewards outside giving any kind of communication. Just the riot police the other side of the iron bars.

Some were already irate before this after being dipped / assaulted by local youth. And now panic was setting in. As people were panicking and trying to get info, they were pepper sprayed. Some didn't get in until half time (including one family member).

At the end the police wasn't telling people the way to go, and if anybody went the wrong way they were pepper sprayed. Then some were either dipped / assaulted again by local youth on the way back, or at the metro.

Sounds horrific and there's lots in common with Heysel (referring here to policing and organisation) and Hillsborough.

Am I close? If so they shouldn't host another final again.

[R D Ender]

 Just watched Sky Sports News at 1300 today,
Isn't it strange that as they are showing the disgusting scenes from Paris on Saturday night, that the yellow news thread at the bottom of the screen appears
saying that

 "Rangers and Frankfurt are to jointly complain to UEFA regarding the organisation at their final also".

Now i'm no Miss Marple, but is there not a common denominator here......................................   

[Jaska]

I was thinking we should do a petition to UEFA on https://change.org/ that Paris or France would never ever be given another European cup final. I'm currently at work so I could do this later if you agree but I also assume there'd be better writers than me so if anyone is ready to create the petition, please let me know.

[PaulKS]

Got back yesterday afternoon. I got to the ground at around 17:45, after getting the Metro from the Eiffel Tower (couldnt be arsed with the fanpark personally).

Turned out that's the route the Madrid fans were all taking, and ended up entering via the North entrance where all the Real Madrid fans were. That part was much bigger and got in no problem ( i took a video of it and sent it to Simon Hughes at The Athletic)

Got a pint and walked round to where our entrance was, and could not believe the bottleneck already at 6pm (CET) 3 hours before KO, and got really worried thinking how bad it could get closer to kick off, absolutely unbelievable. I went in via gate Z at around 18:15 and it was fine then

Everyone knows what happened after, but for me the worst was walking back to the Station after the game. Never witnessed anything like it in my life with the gangs of immigrant scruffs running riot, picking off fans (saw a 60+ year old man in a replica shirt get chinned for no reason at all as he was walking).

Not sure if anyone else saw on the platforms when reds started rightly retaliating and some of the gangs got absolutely filled in? They fucking deserved it, it was horrific. Felt so sorry for people there with kids who had witness everything during a horrible evening all round. Reports of absolutely loads of people being mugged, Saint Denis is an absolute shit hole ghetto and should never host a major final again

Not sure what Tony Evans is banging on about on Twitter by the way, saying its "racist undertones: to be blaming local immigrant communities... but im sorry thats just reality, they were terrifying and there was hundreds of them, they were a huge part of the problem all evening. At Half Time I saw them trying to break into the ground again, being chased by french riot police, not sure if anyone else saw that too?

A word on some of the fucking dickheads in our support by the way - we can't deny that there wasn't a few that did try it on and tried climbing the fence etc to get in. Fucking have a word, after everything the clubs been through they think that's acceptable, absolute disgrace and should be banned for life. But there was nowhere near 30-40k without tickets like the Police are claiming, and I never saw LFC fans 'storming the turnstiles' either, just saw idiots trying to climb over but probably 20-30 maximum.

Proper ticket checks and adequate space make sure minority twats like that are dealt with too - which is what happened in Basel, Kyiv and Madrid. I guarantee if this final would've been in Germany for example, none of this would've happened.

Full respect to Real Madrid and their fans also, they were all absolutely sound and treated us with respect too. Out of all clubs in Europe to lose a CL final to, i'd pick RM. Aside from how the clubs run, they're a proper club and I thought their fans were a credit.

[Levitz]

something happened before the majority of us got there, between 18:00-19:30, that's prompted them to close the gates, they clearly meant to check tickets in that underpass as they had barriers in place but very quickly they've started letting anyone through and up to the ground that's where all the locals came from, there's videos of them rushing the gates but I'm not sure what time, a lot of Liverpool fans I spoke to after seemed to have less problems at neutral ends, was specifically the Liverpool allocation which the gates were closed

We were there when they were still checking tix on the ramp after the underpass. But they only had 1 or 2 people actually doing the checks. Created a massive bottle neck and a crush below the ramp. Then there were a few whose tickets were given back to them as fakes and told to go back, but how can you go back when there is a solid crowd behind you? This narrowed the space going up the ramp even further. Police did nothing but stand there taking up space. It was really uncomfortable and bordering on dangerous. There were kids and Real Madrid supporters in there too. When we finally got through, UEFA suits on the other side laughing and joking. Nearly lost my shit with them the pricks, but just wanted to get in.

[d_sig8489]

The club now have a feedback form so we can pass this all onto then https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/lfc-asks-fans-share-champions-league-final-experiences

[Billy Elliot]

Not sure what Tony Evans is banging on about on Twitter by the way, saying its "racist undertones: to be blaming local immigrant communities... but im sorry thats just reality, they were terrifying and there was hundreds of them, they were a huge part of the problem all evening. At Half Time I saw them trying to break into the ground again, being chased by french riot police, not sure if anyone else saw that too?

I get it mate and sound a bit like 84. But think Tony means it's enough to say there were local youth causing problems, no need to comment on their background. Otherwise it can come across like we're being racist, and I know you're not.

A word on some of the fucking dickheads in our support by the way - we can't deny that there wasn't a few that did try it on and tried climbing the fence etc to get in. Fucking have a word, after everything the clubs been through they think that's acceptable, absolute disgrace and should be banned for life. But there was nowhere near 30-40k without tickets like the Police are claiming, and I never saw LFC fans 'storming the turnstiles' either, just saw idiots trying to climb over but probably 20-30 maximum.

Personally, I haven't got anything against them if they were young lads who've been to most matches and have been hard done by a shit allocation. If I'd have been there and I was 25 years younger I might have had a go myself. You can never foresee shit like this happening due to 30 of our fans trying their luck. And saying "after everything the clubs been through", none of that was caused by a few people trying to bunk in.

Even if 200 tried to bunk in, it's no excuse for UEFA or the French. It's shit and UEFA should be held to account, but they'll wash their hands of it like usual.

If there was promotion / relegation system to the ESL, I'd be all up for fucking them off altogether.

And didn't mean to pick apart your post mate, I can relate to it.

[ScubaSteve]

The club now have a feedback form so we can pass this all onto then https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/lfc-asks-fans-share-champions-league-final-experiences

Just got an email from the club. Everyone needs to complete this

[UntouchableLuis]

I get it mate and sound a bit like 84. But think Tony means it's enough to say there were local youth causing problems, no need to comment on their background. Otherwise it can come across like we're being racist, and I know you're not.


Personally, I haven't got anything against them if they were young lads who've been to most matches and have been hard done by a shit allocation. If I'd have been there and I was 25 years younger I might have had a go myself. You can never foresee shit like this happening due to 30 of our fans trying their luck. And saying "after everything the clubs been through", none of that was caused by a few people trying to bunk in.

Even if 200 tried to bunk in, it's no excuse for UEFA or the French. It's shit and UEFA should be held to account, but they'll wash their hands of it like usual.

If there was promotion / relegation system to the ESL, I'd be all up for fucking them off altogether.

And didn't mean to pick apart your post mate, I can relate to it.

I have to disagree with you. The allocation is terrible. Everyone knows that. Sometimes you'll get lucky and sometimes you won't. There's nothing fair about it- it's pot luck. But to bunk in and potentially jeopardise it for those who genuinely got tickets is unacceptable. It also gives ammunition to those looking to blame fans.

UEFA need to be properly challenged on their allocations but they won't be.

But if you miss out unfortunately you've got to accept it. I missed out on Madrid but was lucky to get Kiev and Paris (or unlucky!). That's the way it is.

[PaulKS]

I get it mate and sound a bit like 84. But think Tony means it's enough to say there were local youth causing problems, no need to comment on their background. Otherwise it can come across like we're being racist, and I know you're not.


Personally, I haven't got anything against them if they were young lads who've been to most matches and have been hard done by a shit allocation. If I'd have been there and I was 25 years younger I might have had a go myself. You can never foresee shit like this happening due to 30 of our fans trying their luck. And saying "after everything the clubs been through", none of that was caused by a few people trying to bunk in.

Even if 200 tried to bunk in, it's no excuse for UEFA or the French. It's shit and UEFA should be held to account, but they'll wash their hands of it like usual.

If there was promotion / relegation system to the ESL, I'd be all up for fucking them off altogether.

And didn't mean to pick apart your post mate, I can relate to it.

Yeah totally agree mate, just meant in terms of if any images/videos of that kind of thing getting out on social media etc. fans of other clubs/some media would be on it straight away and try to tarnish our reputation, and would get all of the focus rather than the disgraceful organisation by UEFA and the French Police

French Interior Minister has come out and said 30-40k tried entering without tickets, absolute bollocks and hopefully that is squashed as soon as possible.