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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3240 on: May 29, 2022, 10:06:39 am »
I am so sorry you that you had to go though all those issues to support the club we all love. Reading these stories of the problems really brings it home. I hope you all made it home safe.

I posted this in the match thread of the issues faced by us fans.

sky sports news reporter showing what happened with Liverpool fans trying to get into the stadium.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/v06qb5/sky_sports_news_chief_reporter_kaveh_solhekol/

how are 20,000 fans supposed to get though a small gap between a police van as a checkpoint? utterly disgraceful.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3241 on: May 29, 2022, 10:20:12 am »
Disgrace what has happened to everyone and feel for you all.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3242 on: May 29, 2022, 10:24:07 am »
I am so sorry you that you had to go though all those issues to support the club we all love. Reading these stories of the problems really brings it home. I hope you all made it home safe.

I posted this in the match thread of the issues faced by us fans.

sky sports news reporter showing what happened with Liverpool fans trying to get into the stadium.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/v06qb5/sky_sports_news_chief_reporter_kaveh_solhekol/

how are 20,000 fans supposed to get though a small gap between a police van as a checkpoint? utterly disgraceful.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3243 on: May 29, 2022, 10:26:14 am »
The riot police only in our end right at the end said it all really. I e never know the losing team to have a pitch invasion?
I was also agree  someone else said that happy  we didn’t equalise as just wanted to get gone.
Lot to process.

Still can’t get over the gates just being shut. What were they thinking?
was worried about getting out more than the football, can't even remember much of the match

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3244 on: May 29, 2022, 10:39:21 am »
Some of those tv crews on the raised platform and vehicles near our entrance must have decent footage of the Chaos.
I arrived earlier enough to avoid it (was with the wife) and see Jason McAteer . Shouted up to him (got a thumbs up and a comment from him, was that close).

HE MUST OF WITNESSED ALL OF THIS!!!!

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3245 on: May 29, 2022, 10:40:05 am »
I fear it will never change. The most emotional part was hearing the stadium sing YNWA and us trying to make ourselves heard, stuck behind bars 50 yards away with everything going on around us. Sobering moment that

I got a lump in my throat when we all started singing YNWA from the outside the ground. Really emotional

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3246 on: May 29, 2022, 10:40:09 am »
Imagine if it had been City though. Seriously could have been the biggest disaster for a long time if it had been. That's the only positive I can think of.
was thinking that myself, it would've been absolute carnage.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3247 on: May 29, 2022, 10:54:22 am »
Kicked off in the fan zone when Madrid scored. A local in a Marseille shirt started cheering which riled a few reds. Loads of pushing and shoving before the Frenchman’s friends escorted him away.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3248 on: May 29, 2022, 10:54:24 am »
was thinking that myself, it would've been absolute carnage.

Shouldn't matter who you're playing though. You shouldn't go to any football match fearing your safety and actually fearing the police are out to get you rather than help you.

There's a serious problem happening with football fans again you feel. Before too long something really disastrous could happen.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3249 on: May 29, 2022, 11:01:50 am »
Had a mate in tears this morning, he was separated from his brother due to debacle getting into turnstile A with Z being closed. Didn't find each other until mid way through the first half, burying their mum this week an all. Another friends son won't leave the hotel room he's that upset about what he saw outside. They were in Corporate, so UEFA & the authorities didn't discriminate who they dished that treatment to as I've seen countless similar accounts from the media also.


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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3250 on: May 29, 2022, 11:01:54 am »
As my mate who went to the game said, it’s clear to see how the carnage unfolded a few years back when the suicide belt wearer got so close to gaining entry to the ground. Absolute shambles.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3251 on: May 29, 2022, 11:13:40 am »
I was in the chaos outside Y gate. Absolutely dreadful.
Once in the ground I’d lost all interest in the game. Wasn’t bothered one bit we lost.
It was literally all a matter of survival and getting back the hotel safe. Local gangs running amok round the ground and on the metro after the game.
Now I’m no shrinking violet and I’ve been everywhere watching Liverpool but that was scary last night.
And Paris is a shithole.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3252 on: May 29, 2022, 11:17:10 am »
Can I say first of all anyone who got caught up in that hell hole, I hope you are okay  today. Both Spirit of Shankly and the journalist Simon Hughes have appealed for fans who were caught up to contact them and tell them of their stories. The club have officially demanded an official enquiry over this, so important that as many put their thoughts down so the fans views are represented fairly.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3253 on: May 29, 2022, 11:20:58 am »
Me & my brother were on the metro to the game and he had his phone stolen.

Tried to log into UEFA app for our tickets and it said “somebody else is logged in” we spoke to every officer, security person we possibly could and they sent us on a run around, laughed at us until we finally found other reds queuing to get in. There was a crush and a push, then we got tear gassed, hit with riot shields and battons  for standing still. Lost each other and obviously without a phone not so easy to catch back up, didn’t know if he’d gone in or got chucked out.

Finally found each other got sent from gate g to gate n to gate x, so many people trying to get in without tickets but they definitely weren’t Liverpool fans,  a lot of fans with Algerian/other types of shirts goading true reds trying to get in. Then they shut every gate and locked out genuine people without tickets.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3254 on: May 29, 2022, 11:55:19 am »
Horrible that mate. From what i saw last 99% of those trying to force their way in weren't Liverpool fans and were most definitely locals.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3255 on: May 29, 2022, 11:56:08 am »
Can I say first of all anyone who got caught up in that hell hole, I hope you are okay  today. Both Spirit of Shankly and the journalist Simon Hughes have appealed for fans who were caught up to contact them and tell them of their stories. The club have officially demanded an official enquiry over this, so important that as many put their thoughts down so the fans views are represented fairly.

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I'm sure there will be plenty of LFC employees who attended as fans with stories to tell in addition to the rest. I've seen a few of the women's team players in the tear gassing videos. There should be no shortage of first hand accounts for any enquiry.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3256 on: May 29, 2022, 12:27:39 pm »
I'm sure there will be plenty of LFC employees who attended as fans with stories to tell in addition to the rest. I've seen a few of the women's team players in the tear gassing videos. There should be no shortage of first hand accounts for any enquiry.

Andy Robertson made a point of having a go at the organisation as one of his friends was accused of have a "fake" ticket which was supplied via the club so obviously was not fake at all. Also Joel's brother's wife was tear gassed as well. Just disgusting. I also saw one of a disabled fan in a wheel chair who'd been caught up in it as well.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3257 on: May 29, 2022, 12:39:48 pm »
I can’t get my head straight. I’ve made it back to Eindhoven to fly home and honestly still feel sick. A LOT of first hand accounts but will anything be done?

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3258 on: May 29, 2022, 12:44:44 pm »
I can’t get my head straight. I’ve made it back to Eindhoven to fly home and honestly still feel sick. A LOT of first hand accounts but will anything be done?

Get in touch with Simon Hughes, he's doing a big report on it and SoS have also asked for people to come forward. The club has already asked for an official enquiry and a number of club members were affected too and families. I am glad you made in back in safety.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3259 on: May 29, 2022, 12:48:20 pm »
I can’t get my head straight. I’ve made it back to Eindhoven to fly home and honestly still feel sick. A LOT of first hand accounts but will anything be done?

That video of the security dickhead spraying a fan just trying to scan his ticket in needs making an example of. We must know his name soon and he should face justice for it. He should have to issue an apology and lose his job.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3260 on: May 29, 2022, 01:09:28 pm »
I got into the ground about 18.10 so fortunately wasn't caught up in any of this. Even got photos showing how clear gate X was. Got the feeling something was building though, a Liverpool fan in front of me was turned away as the ticket "was not good". He seemed genuinely gutted though so do question the accuracy of their checks. Was dreading them finding some sort of fault on my genuine ticket.

Was oblivious of just how bad it got though till the notice came up on the screen. Hope all get home safe. As for Paris, absolute shitehole and won't ever be returning.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3261 on: May 29, 2022, 01:16:06 pm »
Get in touch with Simon Hughes, he's doing a big report on it and SoS have also asked for people to come forward. The club has already asked for an official enquiry and a number of club members were affected too and families. I am glad you made in back in safety.

I definitely will do, planning on doing nothing at work tomorrow so will type it up then. Appreciate it mate. Have to admit, thought it was touch and go at one stage weather we got out of there, but we all stuck together. Proud of us.

That video of the security dickhead spraying a fan just trying to scan his ticket in needs making an example of. We must know his name soon and he should face justice for it. He should have to issue an apology and lose his job.

Every time I scroll, there is a new video. I mean they literally have a social media currently full of evidence 🤷‍♂️

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3262 on: May 29, 2022, 01:27:06 pm »
I definitely will do, planning on doing nothing at work tomorrow so will type it up then. Appreciate it mate. Have to admit, thought it was touch and go at one stage weather we got out of there, but we all stuck together. Proud of us.

Every time I scroll, there is a new video. I mean they literally have a social media currently full of evidence 🤷‍♂️

Good on you. At least the journalists who have attended have kept up the more truthful edition on twitter, some really good posts in there today with a lot of videos as well. UEFA will not be able to wriggle out of this, as there is clear evidence over what happened.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3263 on: May 29, 2022, 01:27:09 pm »
Andy Robertson made a point of having a go at the organisation as one of his friends was accused of have a "fake" ticket which was supplied via the club so obviously was not fake at all. Also Joel's brother's wife was tear gassed as well. Just disgusting. I also saw one of a disabled fan in a wheel chair who'd been caught up in it as well.
This on the BBC, loads of other similar stories...

Took my 84 year old mum to the game last night. She's been a Liverpool supporter her whole life but this was her first European final. We got to the ground at 18.30 local time and she was in her wheelchair. We both had genuine tickets but were told they were fake and when she asked the police office to hand her ticket back she was pepper sprayed and rolled off behind a cage so she could "calm down". When she tried to leave one of the police officers put some sort of bike lock around her wheelchair and this wasn't released until the game was finished. The whole trip cost me £5000. I was in Madrid and it was organised so well but this was just an absolute disgrace.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3264 on: May 29, 2022, 01:45:16 pm »
Out of curiosity did gate Z tickets scan at the other places e.g Y?
Some inside were saying Z was shut and to go to another entrance but most of us didn’t fancy losing our place for a wild goose chase. A few came back and said it didn’t work. Just wondering if it did or not?
And if it did-how far did you have to go, because at one point I gave up in Z and tried but the other gates near were shut as well.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3265 on: May 29, 2022, 01:46:29 pm »
Good on you. At least the journalists who have attended have kept up the more truthful edition on twitter, some really good posts in there today with a lot of videos as well. UEFA will not be able to wriggle out of this, as there is clear evidence over what happened.

They need a big fucking carpet to sweep this one under. They have already tried the blame narrative, and I think (just about) most of the football world have seen through it. Apart from your normal shithouses. Now for accountability as a bare minimum

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3266 on: May 29, 2022, 01:57:50 pm »
Still baffled by closing the gates. What’s the thinking? We all had fake tickets?
And if so they just decided to not even try?
If it was safety then why even open it later?
How’s it not safe and then safe?
I’m baffled by the logic.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3267 on: May 29, 2022, 02:28:45 pm »
Out of curiosity did gate Z tickets scan at the other places e.g Y?
Some inside were saying Z was shut and to go to another entrance but most of us didn’t fancy losing our place for a wild goose chase. A few came back and said it didn’t work. Just wondering if it did or not?
And if it did-how far did you have to go, because at one point I gave up in Z and tried but the other gates near were shut as well.
My Z scanned okay at Y, but I think those sections were open to eachother so it might not have scanned at otherside of ground for example, was absolutely shitting it not scanning, this after been crushed and sprayed within 5 minutes

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3268 on: May 29, 2022, 02:31:34 pm »
Still baffled by closing the gates. What’s the thinking? We all had fake tickets?
And if so they just decided to not even try?
If it was safety then why even open it later?
How’s it not safe and then safe?
I’m baffled by the logic.
something happened before the majority of us got there, between 18:00-19:30, that's prompted them to close the gates, they clearly meant to check tickets in that underpass as they had barriers in place but very quickly they've started letting anyone through and up to the ground that's where all the locals came from, there's videos of them rushing the gates but I'm not sure what time, a lot of Liverpool fans I spoke to after seemed to have less problems at neutral ends, was specifically the Liverpool allocation which the gates were closed

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3269 on: May 29, 2022, 02:37:26 pm »
something happened before the majority of us got there, between 18:00-19:30, that's prompted them to close the gates, they clearly meant to check tickets in that underpass as they had barriers in place but very quickly they've started letting anyone through and up to the ground that's where all the locals came from, there's videos of them rushing the gates but I'm not sure what time, a lot of Liverpool fans I spoke to after seemed to have less problems at neutral ends, was specifically the Liverpool allocation which the gates were closed

On twitter there are videos of local fans getting into the ground, these were all French spoken I saw a couple of videos were they were talking. Some of those I saw on another video when the fans were being held and they were forcing their way through.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3270 on: May 29, 2022, 02:58:34 pm »
On twitter there are videos of local fans getting into the ground, these were all French spoken I saw a couple of videos were they were talking. Some of those I saw on another video when the fans were being held and they were forcing their way through.
I think that's happened before most of us got there and that's why the gates were shut then

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3271 on: May 29, 2022, 03:03:53 pm »
Just thought what it reminded me. Kids when they stick their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen. It was like that, only dangerous.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3272 on: May 29, 2022, 03:06:37 pm »
I think that's happened before most of us got there and that's why the gates were shut then

Around 6:45 is when we saw at least 10 people rush through the final check and were all hauled to the ground by the security. It was bad. I think they were French. Think that was the start if it all.
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3273 on: May 29, 2022, 03:28:06 pm »
Around 6:45 is when we saw at least 10 people rush through the final check and were all hauled to the ground by the security. It was bad. I think they were French. Think that was the start if it all.
gates have been clearly been compromised by locals before majority of Liverpool fans got there, then they've closed the gates to us and stuck us all outside with even more locals surrounding us, they've then opened 1 side gate at each entry point to try and funnel fans through but that only created a crush at that small point, the whole thing is a disgrace and I really doubt I'll ever be away in Europe at a football match again

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3274 on: May 29, 2022, 04:14:41 pm »
something happened before the majority of us got there, between 18:00-19:30, that's prompted them to close the gates, they clearly meant to check tickets in that underpass as they had barriers in place but very quickly they've started letting anyone through and up to the ground that's where all the locals came from, there's videos of them rushing the gates but I'm not sure what time, a lot of Liverpool fans I spoke to after seemed to have less problems at neutral ends, was specifically the Liverpool allocation which the gates were closed

We got in at 18:00 and it was fine but after about 15/20 minutes Y got stormed a couple of times and that then got closed.  Z closed about an hour before after a small group tried to charge but nothing that suggested all gates needed closing.  A few very energetic and mobile lads jumped over the 20ft fence but individuals and a few got caught others legged it. 

A couple of liverpool stewards were trying to calm supporters inside who were asking what was happening and tell them to sort out but our stewards were either not interested or couldn’t influence.

Some disabled supporters eventually got let through a gate but as others tried to gain access got sprayed in the melee.

I’m the upper tier Z and even during match wasn’t full although lower seemed over capacity.  Stewards in ground just taking videos of singing and not interested. 

On way encountered what I’d say was police intimidation squeezing us through with underpass blocked by vans just waiting for a show of aggression from our fans who thankfully apart from advising them they were C’s walked on.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3275 on: May 29, 2022, 04:19:58 pm »
Out of curiosity did gate Z tickets scan at the other places e.g Y?
Some inside were saying Z was shut and to go to another entrance but most of us didn’t fancy losing our place for a wild goose chase. A few came back and said it didn’t work. Just wondering if it did or not?
And if it did-how far did you have to go, because at one point I gave up in Z and tried but the other gates near were shut as well.

We tried to get in at Y and were told our tickets wouldn’t scan. We were then directed back to Z. When that didn’t work, because they flat out refused to open or even speak to us, we eventually went back to Y where, yes you better believe it, our tickets worked and we were let in.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3276 on: May 29, 2022, 04:36:43 pm »
A couple of liverpool stewards were trying to calm supporters inside who were asking what was happening and tell them to sort out but our stewards were either not interested or couldn’t influence.

When I eventually got in at Y, I asked one of the Liverpool stewards why they were just standing and watching and not helping, and it turned out they were as frustrated as us.  She said they had been outside the gates helping steward the early crowds, but their French counterparts had told them they were not allowed to do that and made them stop.

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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3277 on: May 29, 2022, 04:40:22 pm »
When I eventually got in at Y, I asked one of the Liverpool stewards why they were just standing and watching and not helping, and it turned out they were as frustrated as us.  She said they had been outside the gates helping steward the early crowds, but their French counterparts had told them they were not allowed to do that and made them stop.
they don't really have much power and are there just to advise, when the police take over they take over, I was more shocked that there absolutely no one with authority outside the ground, no stewards no nothing they were all locked behind the fence

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« Reply #3278 on: May 29, 2022, 05:17:54 pm »
Around 6:45 is when we saw at least 10 people rush through the final check and were all hauled to the ground by the security. It was bad. I think they were French. Think that was the start if it all.

We were at Y, it happened a few times, but definitely not just locals - only a handful a couple of times, though. Gates closed twice while we were there, 2nd time it was reopened (looked from a few metres back that it had been pulled open), and that's when they let the gas off as there was a push forward.

There looked to be a mix of locals and a few lads who said they couldn't get in at Z, so just pushed to the front of Y, over the fences at the front, all insisted they had tickets
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Re: Champions League Final in Paris 28.5.2022
« Reply #3279 on: May 29, 2022, 05:51:48 pm »
I forgot to say after all the trouble getting in the pat down was like that gif on Twitter. You know the one.
So obviously not that arsed about the security in the end.