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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22160 on: July 5, 2020, 11:36:19 am »
the arrogance to say that a manager who is on the slide, with a club who are on the slide, that have no winning mentality whatsoever, WILL win a trophy at least i just find mental.
It’s a hell of a brand for him to exploit isn’t it.  Mourinho --> guarantees trophies.  Other managers —> no guarantees.  I mean, it’s not even totally untrue, historically, it’s just ... it gets said as if there’s no other factors in the equation.  As if you can take a failing, ageing team with massive structural problems and no money to spend - but add Mourinho and just watch those trophies pile up.

I don’t even care about Spurs, in fact I quite like them, I just hate him forever.

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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22161 on: July 5, 2020, 03:05:03 pm »
Have the sports pages restarted the pleas for "Harry Kane to move to somewhere where he can finally win trophies but especially Man Utd please" yet?
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22162 on: July 5, 2020, 07:17:38 pm »
Levy's been after Mourinho for ages, since he left Chelsea the very first time. Only Mourinho was too hot a property to go to Spurs at that time. Mourinho is now shit enough to join Spurs, but Levy is not smart enough (footballwise) to see that that the time to go for him as manager has passed.

He might be great at finance etc but his footballing nous is perhaps a bit lacking
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22163 on: July 6, 2020, 09:08:41 am »
If it's going to be difficult to prise trophies away from two teams you should only concentrate on the one I think, I suggest Manchester City - you know it makes sense!

It seems this might be a good strategy!   ;D

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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22164 on: July 6, 2020, 10:05:55 pm »
Great win today to get some breathing room over Everton for the mid table mediocrity trophy.
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22165 on: July 6, 2020, 10:21:42 pm »
They are genuinely awful to watch. I wonder if Kane and Son will be looking for a new club when the window opens up. Poor career choice for Lo Celso and Bergwijn, although Lo Celso didn't realize what he was getting into last summer when he signed with them.
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22166 on: July 6, 2020, 10:28:43 pm »
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« Reply #22167 on: July 6, 2020, 11:58:21 pm »
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22168 on: July 7, 2020, 04:12:03 am »
Time for Kane to leave now.
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22169 on: July 7, 2020, 04:30:13 am »
Someone needs to save Son.  He's wasted there. 

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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22170 on: July 7, 2020, 06:18:15 am »
They are genuinely awful to watch. I wonder if Kane and Son will be looking for a new club when the window opens up. Poor career choice for Lo Celso and Bergwijn, although Lo Celso didn't realize what he was getting into last summer when he signed with them.

Both Lo Celso and Bergwijn will outlast Shitcoat, that is the main culprit of their dire football. If he gets the boot and Kane goes (which he won't), I can see the others thriving.


Someone needs to save Son.  He's wasted there. 

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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22171 on: July 7, 2020, 06:29:22 am »
Time for Kane to leave now.

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He's going no where. he's the new Le Tissier and to be fair he didn't do too badly out of his status. He's on Sky a lot.


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« Reply #22172 on: July 7, 2020, 06:34:35 am »
Time for Kane to leave now.
No one is going to buy him at a Levy price in the current climate.
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22173 on: July 7, 2020, 06:38:47 am »
No one is going to buy him at a Levy price in the current climate.


Even without covid they would never have gotten what they'd ask,it's as obvious as a boil on the tip of a snout that his injuries & the fact Kane himself has always rushed back that he has lost what little pace he used to have,the game has moved on and left him behind ino.
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« Reply #22174 on: July 7, 2020, 06:54:04 am »
I got a news alert on my phone saying that Kane had been identified as the man to replace Firmino due to his scoring woes...

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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22175 on: July 7, 2020, 07:33:25 am »
I got a news alert on my phone saying that Kane had been identified as the man to replace Firmino due to his scoring woes...

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Seems legit.
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« Reply #22176 on: July 7, 2020, 07:37:02 am »
I got a news alert on my phone saying that Kane had been identified as the man to replace Firmino due to his scoring woes...

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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22177 on: July 7, 2020, 09:12:07 am »
Mourinho doing what he does best, producing shit sandwich football.

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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22178 on: July 7, 2020, 09:26:06 am »
Mourinho doing what he does best, producing shit sandwich football.
Did I mishear him, or did he really say on Sky Sports that he wanted his players be angry « with each other » and to « blame » each other? Never gets the tone or the message right that one.

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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22179 on: July 7, 2020, 10:11:49 am »
I don't see a team Kane goes into (that could afford him) and improves.

He's an old fashioned goalscorer, maybe Chelsea's system would work for him but they have other targets and options they are happy with. Everyone else seems to be set up using a more mobile striker, and I don't think Kane can play that role.
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22180 on: July 7, 2020, 10:22:31 am »
I don't see a team Kane goes into (that could afford him) and improves.

He's an old fashioned goalscorer, maybe Chelsea's system would work for him but they have other targets and options they are happy with. Everyone else seems to be set up using a more mobile striker, and I don't think Kane can play that role.

Maybe going abroad to, say, Italy perhaps? Never going to happen though.
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22181 on: July 7, 2020, 10:26:59 am »
Maybe going abroad to, say, Italy perhaps? Never going to happen though.

I could see how he could fit in at Juventus, but I can't imagine that happening either.

He's basically forced into Englands set up now too.
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22182 on: July 7, 2020, 11:00:15 am »
Yes, he did a good job in taking Spurs from an occasional Champions League team to a regular Champions League team, but also didn't do as good a job as he could have frankly, missing that golden opportunity in the year Leicester won, when all Spurs’ major competitors where either not that good, or in a season on major change. That Spurs team was an excellent team, and it looks like the stars where aligning for them, but they chocked.   
Agree with your overall assessment but its harsh to say they choked in 2016. I would argue they were never really in the title race at all.

That team was still very early in their development and kinda just fell into 2nd place when all the rest failed. They were always a good number of points behind Leicester, I'd say they did pretty well that season they just fell off as they just were not ready. If anything, it was Arsenal who threw a golden chance of a title challenge away (they were the only ones with a stable team).

Spurs downfall is traced back to 2018 - they had fallen slightly from their 2017 points total and that was the time to invest - they didn't and the rest is history.

We always have to be mindful of this and invest when it is possible to do so. Of course we have a much stronger squad and coaching set up so we are in a far better position.
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22183 on: July 7, 2020, 11:45:59 am »
No one will pay what Levy demands so he's stuck there  ... I think he's happy being the big fish at Spurs as he signed a new 5 year contract recently. You will notice the likes of Mbappe and Neymar are running their contracts down as to become more 'affordable' (whatever that means) to potential suitors in the future.

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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22184 on: July 7, 2020, 11:49:00 am »
Agree with your overall assessment but its harsh to say they choked in 2016. I would argue they were never really in the title race at all.

That team was still very early in their development and kinda just fell into 2nd place when all the rest failed. They were always a good number of points behind Leicester, I'd say they did pretty well that season they just fell off as they just were not ready. If anything, it was Arsenal who threw a golden chance of a title challenge away (they were the only ones with a stable team).

Spurs downfall is traced back to 2018 - they had fallen slightly from their 2017 points total and that was the time to invest - they didn't and the rest is history.

We always have to be mindful of this and invest when it is possible to do so. Of course we have a much stronger squad and coaching set up so we are in a far better position.

whether it’s harsh or not - the whole point is - they should have been in the title race that season - Leicester won it for goodness sake  ;D  That’s the point, it was the prefect storm.

As for early development, not sure I agree with that, plus - you can counter that with the ‘but Leicester won it for goodness sake’ argument, what sort of development where they in, with a coach who’d been there less time than Pochettino had at Spurs.   Spurs had the likes of Lloris, Eriksen, Walker, Rose, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Dembele, most of them had been at Spurs for at least a couple years, most of them experienced players in their prime. As well as Kane, Alli, Son, Dier of course. They had a really good settled squad with a settled manager / coach

It was a massive missed opportunity.

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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22185 on: July 7, 2020, 12:45:31 pm »
No one is going to buy him at a Levy price in the current climate.
Can't believe you missed the opportunity to say ''No one is going to buy him at the price Spurs would Levy'' #punsneedwork
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22186 on: July 7, 2020, 02:04:41 pm »
Mourinho sounds like a pundit now in his post match interviews.
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22187 on: July 7, 2020, 02:47:49 pm »
some "news" outlets are going with this story:

"Spurs CL hopes are still alive after victory over Everton."

yeah.....what? They are a point behind arsenal and not even Claude thinks Arsenal are getting CL. They are 7 behind Ole the Genius and 4 behind Wolves with 5 to play. That's a lot of points to make up.

I mean, I suppose they still have a chance.

 

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« Reply #22188 on: July 8, 2020, 05:24:56 am »
some "news" outlets are going with this story:

"Spurs CL hopes are still alive after victory over Everton."

yeah.....what? They are a point behind arsenal and not even Claude thinks Arsenal are getting CL. They are 7 behind Ole the Genius and 4 behind Wolves with 5 to play. That's a lot of points to make up.

I mean, I suppose they still have a chance.

They're shite, and articles should never be talking up their chances. The one thing they have going for them though is that their fixtures are favourable. Bournemouth up next, which is as much a gimme as anyone could wish for at the moment, and they play both Arsenal and Leicester at home.

4th is pretty impossible, but due to everyone's inconsistency, they do still have an outside chance of 5th. But they'd have to win every game, which I don't expect and anyway there are no guarantees 5th even gives CL.

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« Reply #22189 on: July 8, 2020, 07:15:27 am »
4th is pretty impossible, but due to everyone's inconsistency, they do still have an outside chance of 5th. But they'd have to win every game, which I don't expect and anyway

While also hoping for others to drop lots of points...

Leicester’s form is pretty poor right now but even so, they’d have to completely tank to finish behind Spurs.

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« Reply #22190 on: July 8, 2020, 11:06:46 am »
Eric Dier has the next 4 games off for heading up into the stand and having a few words with one of their fans. Which, as you remember, happened some time in 2017.

Though If I was him I'd be gutted it wasn't 5 games so I could have the rest of the season off.
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Re: Spurs - Commiserations
« Reply #22191 on: July 8, 2020, 11:10:30 am »
Eric Dier has the next 4 games off for heading up into the stand and having a few words with one of their fans. Which, as you remember, happened some time in 2017.

Though If I was him I'd be gutted it wasn't 5 games so I could have the rest of the season off.

I was a little surprised to read this bit in the Guardian's report on it:

Dier has been in excellent form since the Premier League’s restart in his preferred centre-half position.

I may need to revisit the opticians.
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« Reply #22192 on: July 8, 2020, 11:11:36 am »
I was a little surprised to read this bit in the Guardian's report on it:

Dier has been in excellent form since the Premier League’s restart in his preferred centre-half position.

I may need to revisit the opticians.

Has he ever been in excellent form? Christ remember when all the Ingurlunders thought he was better than Hendo...

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« Reply #22193 on: July 8, 2020, 11:24:32 am »
I was a little surprised to read this bit in the Guardian's report on it:

Dier has been in excellent form since the Premier League’s restart in his preferred centre-half position.

I may need to revisit the opticians.

Amazing what a british passport will get you! Christ he's woeful. Spurs fans should be upset it wasn't five games, so they can make a push to qualify for europe (somewhere in the top 7/8 should do it)

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« Reply #22194 on: July 8, 2020, 11:26:08 am »
A suspended Eric Dier should give Spurs a big boost as they attempt to achieve their ultimate ambition of finishing above Arsenal.

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« Reply #22195 on: July 8, 2020, 11:54:36 am »
Has he ever been in excellent form? Christ remember when all the Ingurlunders thought he was better than Hendo...

I vaguely remember him scoring some good goals from free kicks, but apart from that he's been pretty average whenever I've watched him play.
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« Reply #22196 on: July 8, 2020, 12:02:01 pm »
I vaguely remember him scoring some good goals from free kicks, but apart from that he's been pretty average whenever I've watched him play.

He's like a slower Tom Huddlestone

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« Reply #22197 on: July 8, 2020, 12:03:22 pm »
Amazing what a british passport will get you! Christ he's woeful. Spurs fans should be upset it wasn't five games, so they can make a push to qualify for europe (somewhere in the top 7/8 should do it)

There does seem to be some sort of criticism force field around this club at times. None of their players have ever dived; they never try to injure an opponent, it's just a clumsy tackle; they've never bottled it when they're close to winning a trophy, just been unlucky; etc.

And if Kane is still England captain after Hendo has captained his club team to four trophies in 12 months, then Southgate needs a good slap.
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« Reply #22198 on: July 8, 2020, 12:04:46 pm »
"What's passive smoking? There's passive lots of things. Like passive listening to shitheads. I have to put up with that every day. Are you going to ban people from talking crap? They give me a headache. Believe me, they're killing me. One day people's conversations on the street will do me in." Terry Hall

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« Reply #22199 on: July 8, 2020, 02:05:02 pm »
The Special Once doesn't like this ban for Dier, his chances to get the sack and another large payout diminish.
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