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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #200 on: April 1, 2019, 02:58:02 pm »
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Hillsborough Trial: The jury foreman has said they have not reached a unanimous verdict on either Defendant - Judge has told them he will accept a majority verdict, agreed by 10 out of the 12 members.

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #201 on: April 3, 2019, 12:29:41 pm »
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BREAKING: Hillsborough Trial: On the 8th day of deliberations, the jury has returned to say it has NOT reached a verdict on the manslaughter charge against ex Ch Supt David Duckenfield.

The jury hearing the prosecution for gross negligence manslaughter of the former South Yorkshire police chief superintendent David Duckenfield has failed to reach a verdict, almost 30 years after he commanded the 1989 FA Cup semi-final at Hillsborough between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest, at which 96 people died.

The jury delivered a guilty verdict on the breach of safety duty charge against Graham Mackrell, the Sheffield Wednesday secretary and safety officer for the club’s Hillsborough ground at the time of the disaster.
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #202 on: April 3, 2019, 12:34:25 pm »
What does that mean exactly? Neither guilty or not guilty, so not cleared, just no agreement from the jury? Will that be the end of it or will there be another trial?

Apologies if not the place to debate, just trying to establish what happens next.

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« Reply #203 on: April 3, 2019, 12:36:11 pm »
What does that mean exactly? Neither guilty or not guilty, so not cleared, just no agreement from the jury? Will that be the end of it or will there be another trial?

Apologies if not the place to debate, just trying to establish what happens next.

Says on the Sky News article that jurors have been discharged so I imagine that’s the end of it.
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #204 on: April 3, 2019, 12:38:24 pm »
Says on the Sky News article that jurors have been discharged so I imagine that’s the end of it.
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BREAKING: Hillsborough: The Crown Prosecution Service has said that it WILL seek a RETRIAL of the former Ch Supt David Duckenfield for gross negligence manslaughter, after the jury in this trial failed to reach a verdict.


Judge Sir Peter Openshaw has stressed that reporting restrictions are still in place and that only the verdicts may be reported. No commentary, opinion permitted.
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #205 on: April 3, 2019, 12:38:56 pm »
Says on the Sky News article that jurors have been discharged so I imagine that’s the end of it.

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #206 on: April 3, 2019, 12:39:23 pm »
And I’ve just seen that reporting restrictions are still in place so won’t comment any further. Ta

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« Reply #207 on: April 3, 2019, 12:40:21 pm »
And I’ve just seen that reporting restrictions are still in place so won’t comment any further. Ta

I would echo this sentiment. I really wouldn`t comment further at this stage
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #208 on: April 3, 2019, 12:43:20 pm »
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BREAKING: Hillsborough: The Crown Prosecution Service has said that it WILL seek a RETRIAL of the former Ch Supt David Duckenfield for gross negligence manslaughter, after the jury in this trial failed to reach a verdict.


Judge Sir Peter Openshaw has stressed that reporting restrictions are still in place and that only the verdicts may be reported. No commentary, opinion permitted.

Came out after my post. Hopefully good news that a retrial has been sought

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #209 on: April 3, 2019, 12:46:34 pm »
This can be reported

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All parties now back in court at 12.15. Jury foreman asked for verdicts after 29 hours 6 mins:

Duckenfield: HUNG JURY

Mackrell: GUILTY 10-2 on Charge 3 (breaching his safety duty re the number of turnstiles) NOT GUILTY on Charge 2.

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #210 on: April 3, 2019, 12:50:38 pm »
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Hillsborough: Almost exactly 30 years since just 7 turnstiles were allocated for 10,100 people with standing tickets to support Liverpool at Hillsborough, Sheffield Wednesday secretary Graham Mackrell has been found guilty of failing to take reasonable care of their safety.

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« Reply #211 on: April 3, 2019, 01:32:14 pm »
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« Reply #212 on: May 13, 2019, 01:24:06 pm »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-48253507

The stadium safety officer in charge at the time of the Hillsborough disaster has been fined £6,500.

Former secretary of Sheffield Wednesday Football Club, Graham Mackrell, is the first person to be convicted of an offence relating to the tragedy.

Mackrell, 69, of Stocking Pelham, Hertfordshire, failed to ensure there were enough turnstiles to prevent large crowds building up.

He was also ordered to pay £5,000 towards the prosecution costs.

Ninety-six Liverpool fans died following the crush in the central pens of the Leppings Lane terrace at the FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989.

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #213 on: May 13, 2019, 08:12:59 pm »
The full judgement off David Conn's twitter:

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #214 on: June 25, 2019, 10:40:35 am »
Via David Conn:

"Hillsborough: A retrial has been ordered of the manslaughter charge against ex South Yorkshire police Ch Supt David Duckenfield, who was in command of the 1989 FA Cup semi final at which 96 people were killed. Trial due to start 7 October."

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« Reply #215 on: October 7, 2019, 09:47:37 am »
As always posted without comment

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/367838-hillsborough-retrial-to-begin

The retrial of David Duckenfield, the match commander on the day of the Hillsborough disaster, will begin at Preston Crown Court today.

Duckenfield is charged with gross negligence manslaughter in relation to the deaths of 95 of the 96 supporters who lost their lives as a result of the tragedy on April 15, 1989.

Due to the law in 1989, the former chief superintendent has not been charged with the manslaughter of Tony Bland, because he died more than a year and a day after the disaster occurred.

Duckenfield’s original trial concluded in April this year, when a jury failed to reach a verdict after eight days of deliberations.

In June, Sir Peter Openshaw granted the Crown Prosecution Service’s application for a retrial, which is now set to start in Preston.

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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #216 on: November 13, 2019, 11:16:14 pm »
No comment.

https://twitter.com/joe_thomas18/status/1194719248146423809

'The prosecution has concluded its case against Duckenfield, who jurors today heard will not be giving evidence because of his PTSD.'

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/medical-condition-makes-undesirable-duckenfield-17252471

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« Reply #217 on: November 25, 2019, 08:02:11 pm »
Jury has retired to consider a verdict.
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« Reply #218 on: November 27, 2019, 04:03:45 pm »

https://twitter.com/joe_thomas18/status/1199719818645127169 ...

'Hillsborough Retrial: The jury in the case of Hillsborough match commander David Duckenfield has been sent home for the night. Their deliberations will resume at 10.30am'.
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #219 on: November 28, 2019, 02:35:47 pm »

https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/1200059584737619970

'Hillsborough Trial: After 3 full days of consideration, jury foreman has said they have not reached a verdict on which they're all agreed; Judge has told them he can now accept a majority verdict which must be 9-1. (7 women and 3 men on the jury, after 2 were discharged.)'
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #220 on: November 28, 2019, 03:44:30 pm »

https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/1200077596916105216

'BREAKING: Hillsborough Trial: The Jury has returned with a Verdict of NOT GUILTY on the charge of manslaughter against ex South Yorkshire police Ch Supt David Duckenfield, who was in command at the 1989 FA Cup semi final when 96 people were unlawfully killed in the crush.'
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #221 on: November 28, 2019, 03:44:52 pm »
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BREAKING: Hillsborough Trial: The Jury has returned with a Verdict of NOT GUILTY on the charge of manslaughter against ex South Yorkshire police Ch Supt David Duckenfield, who was in command at the 1989 FA Cup semi final when 96 people were unlawfully killed in the crush.
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Re: * Inquests 2015/16 - News Only Updates *
« Reply #222 on: November 28, 2019, 03:47:00 pm »

'David Duckenfield NOT GUILTY in Hillsborough retrial - updates and reaction as verdict is reached':-

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-trial-updates-court-retrial-17043375



'How David Duckenfield's trial left Hillsborough families distraught again':-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/28/how-david-duckenfield-trial-left-hillsborough-families-distraught-again - by David Conn



'Hillsborough: David Duckenfield found not guilty of manslaughter':-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/28/hillsborough-david-duckenfield-verdict?CMP=share_btn_tw



'Hillsborough chief cleared of manslaughter':-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50592077 : https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cw1qywm142kt/david-duckenfield-retrial



'Hillsborough: 96 men, women and children were unlawfully killed as a result of the Hillsborough tragedy. No-one will ever be held responsible for their deaths':-

https://twitter.com/joe_thomas18/status/1200079274256076800 : https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-trial-updates-court-retrial-17043375
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« Reply #223 on: November 28, 2019, 03:47:03 pm »
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« Reply #224 on: November 28, 2019, 03:47:25 pm »
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« Reply #225 on: November 28, 2019, 03:57:34 pm »
'David Duckenfield NOT GUILTY in Hillsborough retrial - updates and reaction as verdict is reached':-

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-trial-updates-court-retrial-17043375



'Hillsborough: David Duckenfield found not guilty of manslaughter':-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/28/hillsborough-david-duckenfield-verdict?CMP=share_btn_tw



'Hillsborough chief cleared of manslaughter':-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50592077



'Hillsborough: 96 men, women and children were unlawfully killed as a result of the Hillsborough tragedy. No-one will ever be held responsible for their deaths':-

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« Reply #226 on: November 28, 2019, 04:04:14 pm »
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« Reply #227 on: November 28, 2019, 04:05:37 pm »
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« Reply #228 on: November 28, 2019, 04:07:17 pm »
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The trial of Hillsborough match commander David Duckenfield concluded today, with the 75-year-old found not guilty of the manslaughter of Liverpool supporters killed in the disaster.

The result will understandably spark emotion and no doubt some of that will spill online.

And with this case now over, there are no jurors who could be influenced by anything they read or hear.

This means there is more freedom to make comments specifically related to the former chief superintendent and his seven week trial.

Yet you must still take care if you want to express your thoughts more generally on social media.

This is because a separate trial is due to begin in April.

Three suspects face allegations linked to what happened in the aftermath of the Hillsborough disaster.

So if you are commenting after today’s verdicts it is best to stick to what happened before April 15, 1989 and on the day of the tragedy - the topics which fell under scrutiny in the trial and retrial of Duckenfield this year.

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« Reply #231 on: November 28, 2019, 04:12:18 pm »
Can this be appealed or is that it now?

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« Reply #232 on: November 28, 2019, 04:12:54 pm »
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« Reply #236 on: November 28, 2019, 04:19:57 pm »
Can this be appealed or is that it now?
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« Reply #238 on: November 28, 2019, 04:24:07 pm »
Fucking joke. Can't imagine how the families feel, christ what kick in the gut. Disgusting that they've got away with again.

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« Reply #239 on: November 28, 2019, 04:24:39 pm »

'How David Duckenfield's trial left Hillsborough families distraught again':-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/28/how-david-duckenfield-trial-left-hillsborough-families-distraught-again - by David Conn


^ includes some of the events of from the re-trial, and... well, it is an important read.
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