Author Topic: Hull City - Protest (Read 69516 times)

Graham Smith · « **on:** April 17, 2015, 05:38:13 pm »

http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/hull-city-away-supporter-protest

Apologies

Ycuzz · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2015, 05:40:01 pm »

Link broken mate

Craig S · « **Reply #2 on:** April 17, 2015, 05:44:54 pm »

Working Link:
http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/hull-city-away-supporter-protest

Graham, it may also be worth posting in the Hull ticket thread here:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=320484.40

RK7 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:01:41 pm »

It will only work if tickets are not brought, what does the statement mean "we will personally be purchasing a £10 ticket in order to maintain our credits and not go"

How come these tickets are £10?

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #4 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:05:55 pm »

Fucking shameful pricing structure that is.

paulsheridan08 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:06:34 pm »

Quote from: RK7 on April 17, 2015, 06:01:41 pm

It will only work if tickets are not brought, what does the statement mean "we will personally be purchasing a £10 ticket in order to maintain our credits and not go"

How come these tickets are £10?

they aren't going to game but to keep credits they are buying the cheapest kid ticket. reason for buying the ticket is because someone else would just buy it and go whereas we are trying to make a point to the premier league without us football is nothing.

Sudden Death Draft Loser · « **Reply #6 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:06:58 pm »

£50 a ticket for Hull away

Surprised we've got any fans attending matches at all.

CraigDS · « **Reply #7 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:08:25 pm »

Will the kids tickets (the ones costing £10) be limited in number?

If so is it a good thing to purchase one just to keep a credit and possibly prevent a kid attending the match?

paulsheridan08 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:09:49 pm »

Quote from: CraigDS on April 17, 2015, 06:08:25 pm

Will the kids tickets (the ones costing £10) be limited in number?

If so is it a good thing to purchase one just to keep a credit and possibly prevent a kid attending the match?

no? just a sake of ripping off the stub for adult isn't it? would be great if 2,500 fan bought 10 quid tickets.

Cork Red · « **Reply #9 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:18:13 pm »

Is there anybody in the media who is sympathetic to the plight of the ordinary supporter? Genuine question.

Part of the problem is that the likes of Sky and BT keep trying to gloss over the protests, pretend they're not happening. The pundits must have known that there was an organised protest at the game at the Emirates, but I don't think it got a mention?

It would be great if someone would stick their neck out and put a shout in and mention that there's no away fans today because they're being charged extortionate prices.

paulsheridan08 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:22:34 pm »

completely different but about a week or 2 ago Cardiff fans boycotted leeds away for the sake they offered them a 500 allocation and they would have to pick up tickets rather than the club distribute and no one turned up. heres the article, if only our club did this because of the price ....if only ey http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/cardiff-city-take-no-away-5493483

mjjason · « **Reply #11 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:30:17 pm »

That is disgraceful. What justification do they have for doing this? Who sets the ticket pricing for away games? Is this both team together or is Hull driving?

Retro Red · « **Reply #12 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:32:29 pm »

Quote from: CraigDS on April 17, 2015, 06:08:25 pm

Will the kids tickets (the ones costing £10) be limited in number?

If so is it a good thing to purchase one just to keep a credit and possibly prevent a kid attending the match?

Here he is! Less of the faux naivety, you know full well what's going on with the idea of buying £10 tickets.

Not buying tickets means that the seats will be filled anyway, as you know. So any visual impact in the stadium, through very rare empty seats in a Liverpool away end, means buying a ticket and not going. Less to do with keeping the credit and everything to do with not filling a Liverpool end away at Hull on a Tuesday night at £48 a go.

Observing a boycott would mean that kid not going anyway.

RK7 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:32:48 pm »

Quote from: paulsheridan08 on April 17, 2015, 06:06:34 pm

they aren't going to game but to keep credits they are buying the cheapest kid ticket. reason for buying the ticket is because someone else would just buy it and go whereas we are trying to make a point to the premier league without us football is nothing.

Cheers, that makes more sense.

PhaseOfPlay · « **Reply #14 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:39:30 pm »

Quote from: paulsheridan08 on April 17, 2015, 06:06:34 pm

they aren't going to game but to keep credits they are buying the cheapest kid ticket. reason for buying the ticket is because someone else would just buy it and go whereas we are trying to make a point to the premier league without us professional football is nothing.

gingermolloy · « **Reply #15 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:43:20 pm »

Frankly this is crunch time. If we can't make a boycott of Hull away midweek work, where the tickets are £50, we might as well give up.

paulsheridan08 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:44:03 pm »

Quote from: gingermolloy on April 17, 2015, 06:43:20 pm

Frankly this is crunch time. If we can't make a boycott of Hull away midweek work, where the tickets are £50, we might as well give up.

agree mate, if this doesn't work nothing will. for me the arsenal protest didn't make a difference as people payed 50 quid to miss 10 minutes but by every fan buying a 10 quid ticket and not goin hits them in the pocket and makes them listen.

TheFlyingScouseman · « **Reply #17 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:46:05 pm »

Idea this, good very

redbyrdz · « **Reply #18 on:** April 17, 2015, 06:54:35 pm »

Will join you at Anfield. Enough is enough!

Graham Smith · « **Reply #19 on:** April 17, 2015, 07:23:13 pm »

There are about 250 already committed as far as non-going coaches are concerned:

Wilcox tours
SOS
Irregulars
Vinny coach
1906 coach

All absent.

the 92A · « **Reply #20 on:** April 17, 2015, 07:50:38 pm »

Boycotts are always really hard to organise and carry out. Some of the most regular supporters who go away are supporting this protest, think we should really try to get behind this.

Eeyore · « **Reply #21 on:** April 17, 2015, 07:57:30 pm »

Quote from: CraigDS on April 17, 2015, 06:08:25 pm

Will the kids tickets (the ones costing £10) be limited in number?

If so is it a good thing to purchase one just to keep a credit and possibly prevent a kid attending the match?

Look at the bigger picture Craig, the kid might endure a bit of short term pain but this boycott is fighting for the kids because make no mistake without a change ordinary fans are going to be completely priced out of going the game for generations to come.

Skidder. · « **Reply #22 on:** April 17, 2015, 07:57:58 pm »

If you're going to try and get any kind of campaign going nowadays, you need something that people will share.

Words just aren't enough any more unfortunately. It'd take someone to streak, soapboxing, a clever video, or the backing of someone well known.

CraigDS · « **Reply #23 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:01:43 pm »

Quote from: Al 555 on April 17, 2015, 07:57:30 pm

Look at the bigger picture Craig, the kid might endure a bit of short term pain but this boycott is fighting for the kids because make no mistake without a change ordinary fans are going to be completely priced out of going the game for generations to come.

I understand that, and agree with the boycott as that is ridiculous pricing.

Just not too comfortable, given it's highly unlikely a full boycott will happen given the complexity with these things, with deliberately buying the kids tickets for the simple reason of keeping credits up.

Now if it was part of an attempt for buying up all the tickets and not attending, be it adults or kids, to make sure the maximum impact is achieved then it wouldn't be an issue.

meady1981 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:23:24 pm »

Are there any meet up details for the london demonstration?

Graham Smith · « **Reply #25 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:24:54 pm »

Quote from: meady1981 on April 17, 2015, 08:23:24 pm

Are there any meet up details for the london demonstration?

To follow in the next week

Andy · « **Reply #26 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:26:04 pm »

Quote from: Kidder. on April 17, 2015, 07:57:58 pm

If you're going to try and get any kind of campaign going nowadays, you need something that people will share.

Words just aren't enough any more unfortunately. It'd take someone to streak, soapboxing, a clever video, or the backing of someone well known.

Not being flippant, but is there a song that could be sung? Something that fans from all clubs could sing and would be heard on the telly. Could be shared on social media as well.

Also, lads like the those on The Anfield Wrap seem to have good contacts with local and national papers. Is it worth talking to them about getting their contacts to talk about it more. Paper journalists are more likely to follow the story in comparison to those that work for the telly.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:26:17 pm »

Quote from: CraigDS on April 17, 2015, 08:01:43 pm

I understand that, and agree with the boycott as that is ridiculous pricing.

Just not too comfortable, given it's highly unlikely a full boycott will happen given the complexity with these things, with deliberately buying the kids tickets for the simple reason of keeping credits up.

Now if it was part of an attempt for buying up all the tickets and not attending, be it adults or kids, to make sure the maximum impact is achieved then it wouldn't be an issue.

It's not just about keeping credits up though, if people just didn't buy the tickets then somebody else would and the away end would be full.

Where did you get that there's only limited number of kids tickets from? The selling details doesn't mention it

Perkins · « **Reply #28 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:26:58 pm »

Quote from: CraigDS on April 17, 2015, 08:01:43 pm

I understand that, and agree with the boycott as that is ridiculous pricing.

Just not too comfortable, given it's highly unlikely a full boycott will happen given the complexity with these things, with deliberately buying the kids tickets for the simple reason of keeping credits up.

Now if it was part of an attempt for buying up all the tickets and not attending, be it adults or kids, to make sure the maximum impact is achieved then it wouldn't be an issue.

That doesnt make sense. The only way to do this is to buy up the tickets and as a result maintain credits.

CraigDS · « **Reply #29 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:28:30 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Wych on April 17, 2015, 08:26:17 pm

It's not just about keeping credits up though, if people just didn't buy the tickets then somebody else would and the away end would be full.

And as I said above, if this is what it's about then understand that. However the release that was linked to above specifically states about buying the kids tickets if you're worried about losing a credit.

Quote

Where did you get that there's only limited number of kids tickets from? The selling details doesn't mention it

I don't know, which is why I asked above if they were limited.

... · « **Reply #30 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:31:25 pm »

Just dropping in to say I support this - hope it gets more attention so as to have the full effect.

CraigDS · « **Reply #31 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:32:55 pm »

Quote from: Perkins on April 17, 2015, 08:26:58 pm

That doesnt make sense. The only way to do this is to buy up the tickets and as a result maintain credits.

Which bit doesn't make sense?

If all 2000+ tickets can be purchased as the £10 kids tickets then everyone should get on it and buy up as many as possible and then not attend, 100% agree. Makes sense to do that, regardless of credit.

If however there are only a limited amount of kids tickets, and given it's unlikely many will spend £48 on an adult ticket and not attend (it's a ridiculous amount too attend, let alone not!), all it's likely to do is keep the credits for the small few who manage to get them and prevent anyone not boycotting from taking their kid.

BHB · « **Reply #32 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:33:05 pm »

The buying of £10 kids tickets is not just "to keep the credits up"; it's to ensure these tickets go unused so the seats are empty at the game - a visual impact.

Otherwise - as we all know - there are plenty of people out there that cannot see the bigger picture and would gladly buy the tickets and go themselves.

This is a point of principle and a chance to make a real stand and make a huge public fuss about ticket prices.

£50 for Hull away is an absolute scandal. Especially consider in the increase from last seasons price, and in comparison to what Hull charge other clubs.

And there is no limit on the number of kids tickets available. I buy one for my 7 year old to go with me to most away games. I will again be buying them for this game, but neither of us will be going to Hull.

Supporters in this country (especially those of Category A sides like Liverpool) have been ripped off for too long. If we can't make a stand now, backed up by all - whether they go regularly not - then we might as well concede and tell them "they've" won.

Graham Smith · « **Reply #33 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:33:57 pm »

Quote from: CraigDS on April 17, 2015, 08:28:30 pm

And as I said above, if this is what it's about then understand that. However the release that was linked to above specifically states about buying the kids tickets if you're worried about losing a credit.

I don't know, which is why I asked above if they were limited.

People who have followed this club year after year have had enough, why should they lose this credit when they're spending their money to boycott so someone else can hoover up the ticket?

CHOPPER · « **Reply #34 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:34:30 pm »

Quote from: Perkins on April 17, 2015, 08:26:58 pm

That doesnt make sense. The only way to do this is to buy up the tickets and as a result maintain credits.

And like anyone would do that.............. Imagine what this would be like if we had a chance for the title!

Le_Mot_Juste · « **Reply #35 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:36:31 pm »

Boycott's will become increasingly important.

Will only work if it's observed by all though. Will be very tough, but should be tried.

Perkins · « **Reply #36 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:36:51 pm »

Quote from: CraigDS on April 17, 2015, 08:32:55 pm

Which bit doesn't make sense?

If all 2000+ tickets can be purchased as the £10 kids tickets then everyone should get on it and buy up as many as possible and then not attend, 100% agree. Makes sense to do that, regardless of credit.

If however there are only a limited amount of kids tickets, and given it's unlikely many will spend £48 on an adult ticket and not attend (it's a ridiculous amount too attend, let alone not!), all it's likely to do is keep the credits for the small few who manage to get them and prevent anyone not boycotting from taking their kid.

There is no limit on the concessions from what I have heard.
Also very few kids would be going to Hull on a Tuesday night if their guardian had to pay nearly £50 to accompany.

I would argue that there would be less than 30 kids in that away end had the boycott not happened

CHOPPER · « **Reply #37 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:38:15 pm »

Quote from: Graham Smith on April 17, 2015, 08:33:57 pm

People who have followed this club year after year have had enough, why should they lose this credit when they're spending their money to boycott so someone else can hoover up the ticket?

Commitment without conviction. Sound.

Graham, a union is only as strong as its members conviction.

Ask your members to carry the scar of that missed credit. Thats what they need to do.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #38 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:39:40 pm »

Quote from: Kay Burley on April 17, 2015, 08:38:15 pm

Commitment without conviction. Sound.

Graham, a union is only as strong as its members conviction.

Ask your members to carry the scar of that missed credit. Thats what they need to do.

But if they let that ticket go then the boycott won't happen. Somebody will buy the ticket (at £50) and the effect of an empty away end, costing the club money, won't be felt.

There's 100,000 members and ~33,000 (?) season ticket holders, organising an actual boycott simply isn't viable

Max999 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 17, 2015, 08:40:05 pm »

Quote from: Kay Burley on April 17, 2015, 08:38:15 pm

Commitment without conviction. Sound.

Graham, a union is only as strong as its members conviction.

Ask your members to carry the scar of that missed credit. Thats what they need to do.

If they don't buy the ticket then someone else does, goes to the game and the boycott doesn't happen. All who qualify should buy the £10 credit and stay away.