Topic: The NFL Thread

[rodderzzz]

I absolutely loved fuckin the chargers last week end. Pre game all the chargers fans saying leave Herbert out as 'Its only the Jags' haha a reputation sticks I guess but Im hoping Philly take the same approach this weekend cause this Jags team might be knocking on the door in 12 months time.

[KillieRed]

Latest Peter King podcast is a good listen, particularly on the investigation into Brett Favre’s latest scandal.

[dalarr]

I usually listen to Around the NFL podcast, but will check out the one you mentioned.

Bengals - Dolphins will be interesting for sure. It’s a big game for both teams.

[voodoo ray]

I usually listen to Around the NFL podcast, but will check out the one you mentioned.

Bengals - Dolphins will be interesting for sure. It’s a big game for both teams.

their jet-lagged stuff this week has been funny/.

[bryanod]

I usually listen to Around the NFL podcast, but will check out the one you mentioned.

Bengals - Dolphins will be interesting for sure. It’s a big game for both teams.

Massively difficult spot for Miami here, short week after long difficult game in heat vs buffalo, short week on travel always hard for TNF, lot of banged up key players - Tua, Waddle, Armstead etc.

Wouldn't be massively surprised if soft spot here Bengals win it by 7-14 points.

[PaddingtonRed]

The Bengals defence has been keeping them in games so far and I expect the however, run stopper DJ Reader is out and while the focus has been on the Miami passing game their running game could have some joy against a weakened D line.

Cincy has to get some semblance of run game going otherwise it's going to be long night.

White tiger helmets though.

[bryanod]

White tiger helmets though.

Shame Miami not going throwbacks could been nice jersey matchup!

[voodoo ray]

it'd be better if they used the white helmets against a team who didn't wear white helmets themselves, but prime time etc. (not deion)

[rafathegaffa83]

Tua carted off and taken to hospital. No idea why he was playing after Sunday's "back injury"

[swoopy]

Looks a bad injury for Tua that.

[kaesarsosei]

Someone in the Dolphins org should be facing the sack, lifetime ban from the sport and potentially a prison sentence after what happened there tonight. That's the worst concussion I've ever seen in sport and is potentially a career-ender for Tua. No doubt he himself played along with whatever protocol allowed him to get into this game, and he should be stood down for the rest of the season as well.

Fucking fed up, in all sports, with the token nods to concussion just to be seen to be doing the right thing.

[SouthDerryLaggo]

Someone in the Dolphins org should be facing the sack, lifetime ban from the sport and potentially a prison sentence after what happened there tonight. That's the worst concussion I've ever seen in sport and is potentially a career-ender for Tua. No doubt he himself played along with whatever protocol allowed him to get into this game, and he should be stood down for the rest of the season as well.

Fucking fed up, in all sports, with the token nods to concussion just to be seen to be doing the right thing.

Agree with all of this. Fucking joke. They pretend they have done all the protocols and the players always want to play so they go along with it.

[bryanod]

You are a pair of morons.

It's independent neurologists that both put people into protocol and do the assessment and he was cleared Sunday and checked since then and those people that actually assessed him confirmed back issue.

Getting slammed whiplash style by someone 200lbs heavier was the cause of this.

Some people even blaming the cincy hospital for letting him fly home as they know better. Fucking professional neurologists could do with them all practising instead of on twitter and whatever other jobs they have for some reason instead.

[kaesarsosei]

It's independent neurologists that both put people into protocol and do the assessment and he was cleared Sunday and checked since then and those people that actually assessed him confirmed back issue.

 

[voodoo ray]

Questions do need to be asked of whoever was involved and of the processes themselves. Especially of the 'unaffiliated neurological consultant' who assessed him.

[KillieRed]

Tua carted off and taken to hospital. No idea why he was playing after Sunday's "back injury"

After seeing him jelly-leg on Sunday, there`s no way he shoulda been back out on the field that day, much less last night.

[classycarra]

Questions do need to be asked of whoever was involved and of the processes themselves. Especially of the 'unaffiliated neurological consultant' who assessed him.

Yep, it's important the process is considered too. It is possible that he legitimately passed the tests and the consultant has independently (without too much bias) been satisfied. But in the event that has hypothetically happened, it appears that a new safeguard must be added.

[Rosario]

You are a pair of morons.

It's independent neurologists that both put people into protocol and do the assessment and he was cleared Sunday and checked since then and those people that actually assessed him confirmed back issue.

Getting slammed whiplash style by someone 200lbs heavier was the cause of this.

Some people even blaming the cincy hospital for letting him fly home as they know better. Fucking professional neurologists could do with them all practising instead of on twitter and whatever other jobs they have for some reason instead.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisNowinski1

This guys is the top of his field and was saying the same things ever since the first incident on Sunday. Is he also a moron?

[SouthDerryLaggo]

You are a pair of morons.

It's independent neurologists that both put people into protocol and do the assessment and he was cleared Sunday and checked since then and those people that actually assessed him confirmed back issue.

Getting slammed whiplash style by someone 200lbs heavier was the cause of this.

Some people even blaming the cincy hospital for letting him fly home as they know better. Fucking professional neurologists could do with them all practising instead of on twitter and whatever other jobs they have for some reason instead.

ok mate

[PaddingtonRed]

From a Bengals standpoint, good win, marred by the injury to Tua and we wish him all the very best in his recovery

The offence continues to sputter, being harsh but Mixon looks like he's running through treacle. We have to remember he's been ran into the ground for 5 straight seasons and running backs don't last that long in this league, if he continues to struggle I don't see him being a Bengal next season.

Burrow hasn't captured the form of last season, whether it's the lack of pre season or just poor form the drop off in parallel with a poor running game is concerning.

The defence has been great, the loss of DJ Reader is massive and next week in Baltimore will show the measure of this unit.

[bryanod]

Some solid comebacks there lads.

I've personally experience with neurologists so please grt to practising as backlogs are large. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisNowinski1

This guys is the top of his field and was saying the same things ever since the first incident on Sunday. Is he also a moron?

Yes he didn't assess him. Tua throws that ball away this guy doesn't have a word last night. Instead slammed backwards by someone twice his weight.

Serious levels of I know better than doctors here, like why in the world would someone risk their doctor career for a team don't work for, it's insane.

Now if he's missed something then that's on him but what team and tua meant do if told cleared of any concussion. Not play because abc124 on twitter knows better!?!

[Zimagic]

The easy solution is to ban sacks.

[bryanod]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisNowinski1

This guys is the top of his field and was saying the same things ever since the first incident on Sunday. Is he also a moron?

Are people raging tee Higgins played last night as this guy also said he's got two this season in opening 3 games, including one 4 days ago too in which returned game. Quiet there.

No mention from him or anyone on our TE who has been in protocol since week 1 as diagnosed with concussion.

[Daniel Cabbaggio]

https://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-concussion-protocol-2018-4

Players can cheat the concussion protocols and in the NFL, doctors get pressured and shit gets hushed up because of the stakes. See any given sunday.

If you don't think the dolphins fucked up here you're a lunatic. You are far more likely to get another one if you haven't recovered from the first, 2 in 5 days. Madness.

[Ray K]

Everyone involved in the decision to play Tua last night should not be fired.
They should be jailed.

[redwillow]

You don't even have to be top of your field to know Tua should not have been playing

[SouthDerryLaggo]

https://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-concussion-protocol-2018-4

Players can cheat the concussion protocols and in the NFL, doctors get pressured and shit gets hushed up because of the stakes. See any given sunday.

If you don't think the dolphins fucked up here you're a lunatic. You are far more likely to get another one if you haven't recovered from the first, 2 in 5 days. Madness.

Any given Sunday is a film at the end of the day but the premise is correct. Take one look at pro cycling, they have an independent doctor in a car following the race, two or three times this year alone guys have come off their bikes and staggered around the road dazed and somehow passed the concussion test and continued. The pressure from the teams is insane. It can often be difficult to diagnose on the spot. I had one myself as a child after falling off a zip line, the hospital thought there was nothing wrong with me and discharged me.

[anandg_lfc]

Dolphins management need to take some blame on this. Tua looked like he got a knockout blow in the ufc with those spaghetti legs. It was foolish to bring him back.

[anandg_lfc]

Bucs defense has been on a tear this season. It's going to be a very difficult matchup for mahomes and the chiefs o-line.

[SouthDerryLaggo]

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1576277263770914819?s=46&t=ZJnkZa4-EunSxRvbYWlpzA

The doctor fucked up and is now fired

[voodoo ray]

I read something about that earlier and it does make you wonder who the fuck they're employing.

[classycarra]

immediately adds question marks to all independent neurologists now, like it or not.

league and NFLPA can't allow it to remain a miami dolphins/that doctor two party thing, it needs fully investigating in order to improve the safeguards for all players.

also, i naively assumed the 'unaffiliated consultant' would be on nfl centralised payroll. if they're someone on miami's staff, that to me surely means affiliated?

[voodoo ray]

immediately adds question marks to all independent neurologists now, like it or not.

league and NFLPA can't allow it to remain a miami dolphins/that doctor two party thing, it needs fully investigating in order to improve the safeguards for all players.

also, i naively assumed the 'unaffiliated consultant' would be on nfl centralised payroll. if they're someone on miami's staff, that to me surely means affiliated?

it sounds like the nflpa fired him, so presumably he was on their payroll or the nfl's as opposed to being employed by a team

[stoa]

it sounds like the nflpa fired him, so presumably he was on their payroll or the nfl's as opposed to being employed by a team

It still sounds fishy as fuck. Surely, the Dolphins have doctors on their team, and not a single one of them raised a concern that Tua being cleared might be the wrong decision after seeing him stumble like that in the first match? I have only seen the whole thing after the fact (i.e. after the second incident had occured on Thursday), but a guy getting up like that and then stumbling to the ground while shaking his head multiple times should raise some eyebrows with the team's medical staff.

[SouthDerryLaggo]

It still sounds fishy as fuck. Surely, the Dolphins have doctors on their team, and not a single one of them raised a concern that Tua being cleared might be the wrong decision after seeing him stumble like that in the first match? I have only seen the whole thing after the fact (i.e. after the second incident had occured on Thursday), but a guy getting up like that and then stumbling to the ground while shaking his head multiple times should raise some eyebrows with the team's medical staff.

Team doctors can't be trusted. Their job is to get players on the field, not take them off it, unfortunately

[The North Bank]

Weekends games kick off at the Tottenham hotspur stadium , no idea why an NFL stadium has been named after a soccer team, a shite one at that.

[KillieRed]

Are people raging tee Higgins played last night as this guy also said he's got two this season in opening 3 games, including one 4 days ago too in which returned game. Quiet there.

No mention from him or anyone on our TE who has been in protocol since week 1 as diagnosed with concussion.

They shouldn’t have played either. Satisfied?

[Linudden]

Good riddance regarding that doctor. Yikes. Hopefully Tua will avoid long-lasting consequences of that hit and luckily initial signs appear positive, but to me it's irresponsible if they let him play in the next month. He needs to heal properly now. It's not like Bridgewater wasn't above .500 with Denver before his own hit last year. Let him play while they figure out how Tua actually is doing over several weeks.

[voodoo ray]

If the non-team employed 'consultant' can't be trusted then the entire process falls down because everyone else including the player himself wants the player to play.

Anyway it's dalton vs cousins 2 today in London, the sequel nobody asked for or wanted.

[TipTopKop]

That consultant was a scapegoat in my opinion. I hope Tua is ok and the lad gets some proper time off.