Topic: Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power (Amazon TV series - September 2022)

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Wow, can’t believe that about The Eagle & Child. If not a going concern it should definitely be a candidate for the National Trust/Heritage England.

Blame the owner of the building.

"A letting notice put out by estate agent Savills Licensed Leisure makes clear that the new landlord will be responsible for the works and for fitting out the building."

The refurb is said to cost close to a million & then they want £165,000pa rent.

[dalarr]

I’m really enjoying it. Actually look forward to each episode.

Yes, mate. Enjoying the show, the story, the dialogue, the setting and the characters. I even love Galadriel. I like her single minded focus and drive. I haven’t read the books but I’ve seen Peter Jackson’s trilogies at least twenty times. Finally a series I can invest serious time into.

I even enjoyed some of the Marvel movies. There..I said it. Let me enjoy my petty and uninformed existence in complete ignorance. 

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Yes, mate. Enjoying the show, the story, the dialogue, the setting and the characters. I even love Galadriel. I like her single minded focus and drive. I haven’t read the books but I’ve seen Peter Jackson’s trilogies at least twenty times. Finally a series I can invest serious time into.

I even enjoyed some of the Marvel movies. There..I said it. Let me enjoy my petty and uninformed existence in complete ignorance.

It's hard to say if you're being ironic

[Riquende]

Caught up with all this after our hols and I broadly agree that something about Galadriel isn't quite there. My girlfriend pointed out a previous discussion we'd had about Matt Smith and Dr Who - despite being very young at the time, he was able to convince as a young-looking but actually quite old and 'wise' being. I'm not sure I get that from Galadriel... yet. It was slightly surprising to find that Cate Blanchett was younger when filming the PJ movies than Morfydd Clark is now.

Aside from that, I wasn't quite expecting a "Which one of these is Sauron" puzzle to play out, but it's a pretty cool idea. I wonder if any more candidates will appear before the end of the season (which is when I expect a lot to be revealed).

[thejbs]

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The only character I’ve seen that could possibly be Sauron is the wee sinister looking blonde elf that is inspecting the crater that the stranger (gandalf?) left. I can’t see how any of the others could possibly be him.

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[Riquende]

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The only character I’ve seen that could possibly be Sauron is the wee sinister looking blonde elf that is inspecting the crater that the stranger (gandalf?) left. I can’t see how any of the others could possibly be him.

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From the trailer I expected as much too, but surely there's a massive swerve coming and it'll turn out to be...

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Lenny Henry with his book of weirdly accurate predictions

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[Kashinoda]

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Lenny Henry with his book of weirdly accurate predictions

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Sounds like the title for the next Harry Potter book.

[dalarr]

It's hard to say if you're being ironic

sorry about that. I meant everything I wrote, I really enjoy the series. I popped into this thread yesterday because I had some legitimate questions about the lore and was surprised by the rather arrogant replies by some of the posters here. It’s not always I’m able to convey my thoughts in written form.

[Djozer]

From the trailer I expected as much too, but surely there's a massive swerve coming and it'll turn out to be...

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Lenny Henry with his book of weirdly accurate predictions

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This is my favourite prediction yet, brilliant. 

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Might actually be true though, because he's black, and black is dark as in 'dark lord', and also we know that real hobbits can't be black cos some geniuses on the internet have decreed it so, hence he must be some sort of non-hobbit creature. Thought you were taking the piss there at first but you may well have hit the nail on the head.

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[EastTyroneRed]

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The only character I’ve seen that could possibly be Sauron is the wee sinister looking blonde elf that is inspecting the crater that the stranger (gandalf?) left. I can’t see how any of the others could possibly be him.

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That's a woman, they all are.

[Drinks Sangria]

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I feel like Hallbrand (sp?) is too obvious a Sauron, with his skillset ever widening every episode and the closeness to Galadriel. However Sauron did hasten the fall of Numenor which lead to the loss of his shapeshifting so it clearly could be Hallbrand, but something is telling me that’s a red herring. I fancy he’ll be one of the kings of men seduced by the rings of power who became Nazgûl. He could even be the Witch King of Angmar. This is caveated with my Tolkien knowledge being very shallow so there’s probably 1000 things in the canon that suggest my idea is wrong.

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[ToneLa]

Thought of this thread haha

https://www.theonion.com/guy-on-doomed-planet-mostly-concerned-with-skin-color-o-1849519086

[redwillow]

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I feel like Hallbrand (sp?) is too obvious a Sauron, with his skillset ever widening every episode and the closeness to Galadriel. However Sauron did hasten the fall of Numenor which lead to the loss of his shapeshifting so it clearly could be Hallbrand, but something is telling me that’s a red herring. I fancy he’ll be one of the kings of men seduced by the rings of power who became Nazgûl. He could even be the Witch King of Angmar. This is caveated with my Tolkien knowledge being very shallow so there’s probably 1000 things in the canon that suggest my idea is wrong.

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I agree that

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Hallbrand is most likely the Witch King. I don't see him being Sauron, i don't think we have seen Sauron yet. I also don't think Sauron will be revealed by the end of this series. It will be by the end of Season 2 we see Sauron and any mention of rings

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[Mr Mingebag Squid]

I see episode 6 is titled "Udun".....

[afc tukrish]

I see episode 6 is titled "Udun".....

"... have a clue?"

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

They just turned it up to 11

[Tombellylfc]

Best episode by far that. Really kicking into gear now

[Ultimate Bromance]

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Well that was a fantastic episode, great action scenes, characters from different storylines finally meeting, some mysteries revealed, and a good old volcano eruption. Although I do think it's utterly ridiculous neither of the elves or anyone else checked if the right macguffin was in the wrapping until the kid took a peek.

Think it helped that the jumping around to different plotlines was kept to the bare minimum. As much as I enjoy parts of each storyline, I think the show's pacing and momentum has really suffered from having to jump around so much. More converging please.

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[Ravishing Rick Dude]

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Why that old man felt the need to stick that sword in there? Who's he anyway?

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[Dench57]

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Although I do think it's utterly ridiculous neither of the elves or anyone else checked if the right macguffin was in the wrapping until the kid took a peek.

Think it helped that the jumping around to different plotlines was kept to the bare minimum. As much as I enjoy parts of each storyline, I think the show's pacing and momentum has really suffered from having to jump around so much. More converging please.

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agreed, actually burst out laughing when he took the axe out of the wrapping. this artifact of incredible power and importance, they're just giving it to this random lad and nobody even looked at it? come on

i'll be honest i was bored to tears until the last 10 mins, but then the scene with Numenor arriving and Mt. Doom being born - yes! that's i'm here for!

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Why that old man felt the need to stick that sword in there? Who's he anyway?

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he got told to do it by yer dark haired elf-uruk man, just before he rode off on his horse to misdirect galadriel and halbrand into chasing him (they thought he had the hilt). i don't think he's anyone significant, just a DARK SIDE sympathizing human? might be wrong.

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[Crimson]

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So the area with the eruption is actually Mordor then?

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[RF]

Wasn't a great fan of Peter Jacksons LOTR. The first one is decent, but they got worse after that with some terrible use of CGI and the Hobbit was even worse. Enjoying this series though. Really enjoying it.

[redwillow]

Still don’t think Hallbrand is Sauron. What was

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Adar saying to Galadriel about Sauron? Something about chasing spirits and wasting his orcs life’s doing so? They clearly don’t like each other

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[wampa1]

I always struggle to reconcile remarkable drama that hinges on a glaring plot contrivance. Does the former outweigh the latter? I think here it *just* about does but I hope they don't make a hobbit of it.

[afc tukrish]

I always struggle to reconcile remarkable drama that hinges on a glaring plot contrivance. Does the former outweigh the latter? I think here it *just* about does but I hope they don't make a hobbit of it.

I'm shire they will do...

[ToneLa]

When Sauron has the one ring I hope we see him get fifteen of the magic ones

Six he gave to Dwarves (for Seven in total), but Nine he gave to Men

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Wasn't a great fan of Peter Jacksons LOTR. The first one is decent, but they got worse after that with some terrible use of CGI and the Hobbit was even worse. Enjoying this series though. Really enjoying it.

Surely taking the piss? Nothing compares to Peter Jackson's trilogy

[RF]

Surely taking the piss? Nothing compares to Peter Jackson's trilogy

Not at all. There were many really good parts to the films, but he spoilt them in other parts, especially some of the battle scenes and then throwing corny bits it like tossing Gimli over the wall and Legolas on his friggin skateboard. As for the Hobbit Thorin on the Smaugs nose .....well.

[Macphisto80]

Wasn't a great fan of Peter Jacksons LOTR. The first one is decent, but they got worse after that with some terrible use of CGI and the Hobbit was even worse. Enjoying this series though. Really enjoying it.

I'm with Rick here. You're taking the absolute piss. At least Peter Jackson never made an elementary mistake like time warping an army that grows exponentially as soon as it hits land after time warping over a sea in a matter of hours which takes place during the day, to make it in time to one of the worst choreographed sieges and and battle sequences ever filmed which just so happened to be taking place during the night. You know, the same time the massive army made it ashore and then rode what I assume was a short or massive difference (it's OK if you turn your brain off) to get there in time. It wasn't my intention to come in here and piss all over this show again, but there's no way someone's going to tell me that this show is even better than The Hobbit films, never mind the first three Peter Jackson made just because there were some cringe moments in them. I recently watched The Battle of Five Armies on TV the other night. It shits all over this show despite it being a bloated whacky hijinks of a mess at times.

[wampa1]

I'm shire they will do...

Hopefully they won't as I don't want to sauron the show....

[Zizou]

Galadriel's upside down horse dodge was fucking hysterically bad.

Good episode though.

[Crimson]

I'm with Rick here. You're taking the absolute piss. At least Peter Jackson never made an elementary mistake like time warping an army that grows exponentially as soon as it hits land after time warping over a sea in a matter of hours which takes place during the day, to make it in time to one of the worst choreographed sieges and and battle sequences ever filmed which just so happened to be taking place during the night. You know, the same time the massive army made it ashore and then rode what I assume was a short or massive difference (it's OK if you turn your brain off) to get there in time. It wasn't my intention to come in here and piss all over this show again, but there's no way someone's going to tell me that this show is even better than The Hobbit films, never mind the first three Peter Jackson made just because there were some cringe moments in them. I recently watched The Battle of Five Armies on TV the other night. It shits all over this show despite it being a bloated whacky hijinks of a mess at times.

I'm with you here. It's also one (of many) things that made the later seasons of GoT so bad. Time just doesn't matter all of a sudden. Suddenly what seemed to take days or months, seemed like mere minutes or hours. It's ruining any sense of vastness to the world.

While the show is okay on its own, it certainly doesn't feel like a Lord of the Rings-show; which for me would be the Jackson trilogy.

[redwillow]

Galadriel's upside down horse dodge was fucking hysterically bad.

Good episode though.

Why was it hysterically bad?

[peachybum]

Galadriel's upside down horse dodge was fucking hysterically bad.

Really? I thought it looked miles better than the Legolas horse stuff in Jackson's LOTR.

[Schmidt]

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Why that old man felt the need to stick that sword in there? Who's he anyway?

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He's the guy who had the sword hidden in his barn for years, he's been using it and getting corrupted by it.

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[Zizou]

Why was it hysterically bad?

It looked hilarious, she could dodge in so many more graceful or fluid ways, instead it's an awkward crab manoeuvre which leaves her dangling upside down. I get that it was meant to show her skill, but it was jarring to me.

I think they've handled her horribly, honestly. Very oddly written character.

Really? I thought it looked miles better than the Legolas horse stuff in Jackson's LOTR.

Some of that was crap too, the weird flip he does to get on with Gimli still makes no sense!

[Trada]

Episode 6 was stunning and just as brutal as HOD without being boring and confusing.

Really looking forward to the last 2 of the series.

[JerseyKloppite]

I'm with Rick here. You're taking the absolute piss. At least Peter Jackson never made an elementary mistake like time warping an army that grows exponentially as soon as it hits land after time warping over a sea in a matter of hours which takes place during the day, to make it in time to one of the worst choreographed sieges and and battle sequences ever filmed which just so happened to be taking place during the night. You know, the same time the massive army made it ashore and then rode what I assume was a short or massive difference (it's OK if you turn your brain off) to get there in time. It wasn't my intention to come in here and piss all over this show again, but there's no way someone's going to tell me that this show is even better than The Hobbit films, never mind the first three Peter Jackson made just because there were some cringe moments in them. I recently watched The Battle of Five Armies on TV the other night. It shits all over this show despite it being a bloated whacky hijinks of a mess at times.

Is there any reason that all of the stuff happening in Numenor couldn't have happened long before the scenes with the humans and the dark elf? So it was something of a misdirect rather than a glaring error in timing? Nope.

In any event, I'm genuinely stunned you're back on this thread. You hate this show. Stop fucking watching it

I much prefer it to the Hobbit films, for what it's worth. If I never have to watch dwarves leaping from barrel to barrel or escaping death in increasingly implausible ways, it'll be too soon.

[wampa1]

Why was it hysterically bad?

We're now in the age were practical stunts with real people are 'hysterically bad' and weightless rubber-limbed CG creations defying gravity are 'badass'.

[Red Viper]

I thought if was fantastic. Also

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Halbrand is definitely Sauron.

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