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« Reply #120 on: May 21, 2015, 11:15:08 am »
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/18/nhs-seven-day-health-reform-conservatives-cameron

David Cameron’s promise of a ‘seven-day NHS’ is rooted in ignorance, not evidence
Colin Leys
Can the government be serious with its latest plans to overhaul the NHS? No one believes care can be extended alongside savings of 2-3%

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David Cameron’s promise of a “seven-day NHS” is curious. The NHS is already available seven days and nights a week. Out-of-hours GP services cover evenings and weekends, A&E departments are always open, and inpatients are treated around the clock at weekends (with consultants on call), as on any other day. What seems implied is not new services at night and at the weekends, but better services. Yet the prime minister was not specific about what he has in mind, and any improvements will have costs.

GPs, the government again suggests, should open their surgeries at weekends, and consultants should do more work at weekends. But GP practices can already earn extra funding for providing “enhanced services” on weekday evenings or at weekends. What this has shown is that demand for access at these times varies considerably, according to the demographics of the populations concerned; some GPs think that if you assess demand carefully, almost all of it can be met within normal weekday hours. This suggests that a blanket policy would waste resources: what would be helpful would be for NHS England to offer to assist every practice to work out the best way for it to meet the local demand.

In the meantime, it is hard to see how any improvement is possible, even by 2020, given that there is a critical shortage of GPs. Training takes five years, and newly qualified doctors are choosing other kinds of medical career than general practice. In addition, up to 80% of medical students are women, and many start families soon after qualifying – one practice in east London currently has five pregnant GPs and has not had a single application to cover the soon-to-be empty posts. In addition, most GPs choose to work part-time. These facts, if they persist, would mean that the government will need to pay for training three or four potential GPs for every full-time-equivalent who will eventually practise. Jeremy C*nt says he wants half of all qualifying doctors to choose to be GPs. This may be less than is needed just to maintain existing services, let alone extend them.

The case for shifting some senior hospital medical staff hours from weekdays to weekends is also problematic, and the evidence that Cameron cited to justify it is disputed. Hospital admissions at weekends are different – they rarely come from outpatient clinics, which are held on weekdays: most are emergency admissions and tend to be more serious. But it is not entirely clear that outcomes are worse for such patients than for comparably ill patients admitted on weekdays.

Supposing that the evidence did suggest that rearranging consultants’ hours in order to spread them over a seven-day week would be beneficial, the implications of such a shift would be immense. Consultants work with teams; it would affect every level of clinical staff, and the staff of all the diagnostic and other technical services that support surgical and non-surgical care; it could even lead to a fall in the quality of care overall.

The government is said to have learned that breaking its 2010 election promise to have no more top-down reorganisations of the NHS was politically costly. It seems improbable that it really wants to start another on this scale. A third idea, floated by Hunt, is to shift responsibility from GPs to nurses (or perhaps new categories of clinical worker) to diagnose simple conditions, or give treatments or tests that that only GPs are currently authorised to provide. Such arrangements do exist in other comparable health services, though not as a cost-saving measure, and typically in countries with much higher ratios of doctors to patients than in the UK – Sweden and Germany, for example, have 3.9 per thousand compared with the UK’s 2.7. That means less-qualified staff can provide some treatments without the risk that serious illnesses will be missed, so that quality and continuity of care remain central. In current conditions in the UK, the risk is that it would reduce the quality of primary care and drive those who could afford it to “go private”.

Cameron’s assurance that people should ‘not assume' that it would cost more was visibly not shared by the NHS chief
The attraction of reducing the skill mix is that it sounds like a way of saving money, while the other ideas – expanding the GP workforce by making it more attractive to be a GP, and getting many more hospital staff (and GPs and their staff) to work more unsocial hours, would cost serious money. Cameron’s airy assurance that people should “not automatically assume” that seven-day services would cost more was visibly not shared by the NHS chief executive, Simon Stevens, speaking after him at the same event.

Analysts at Nuffield Trust calculate that to maintain the present level of services the NHS will need £30bn a year more by 2020 than it is getting now. The PM has pledged to give it just £8bn a year more by then, relying on Stevens’ view that the other £22bn will be found from efficiency savings of 2-3% a year. But the efficiency savings already achieved under the Tony Blair and Gordon Brown governments came substantially from salary freezes. It is hard to find anyone familiar with the day-to-day reality in the NHS who thinks £22bn a year can be saved by 2021 without a major loss of coverage and quality. Meanwhile, George Gideon Oliver Osborne, son of Sir Peter Osborne, 17th Baronet of Ballentaylor and Ballylemon and Felicity Alexandra Loxton-Peacock, educated at St. Paul's and Magdalen College, Oxford proposes to cut welfare spending by £12bn a year, implying a predictable increase in demands on health services.

It is hard to avoid the impression that Cameron’s speech, whatever its intended political aim, lacks a serious basis in policymaking.
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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #121 on: May 21, 2015, 11:56:04 am »
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/18/nhs-seven-day-health-reform-conservatives-cameron

David Cameron’s promise of a ‘seven-day NHS’ is rooted in ignorance, not evidence

This is not ignorance! They know exactly what they are saying is rooted in deceit. The Non-Scotland population once again are smeared in total ignorance. When will this country wake up and open its eyes to the Tory deceit!!

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« Reply #122 on: June 5, 2015, 10:49:51 am »
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/04/nhs-patient-safety-fears-nice-scrap-staffing-level-guidelines-mid-staffs-scandal

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Nice says it has stopped devising ratios of nurses to patients, recommended in report into Mid Staffs scandal, with NHS England taking over the work

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 Sir Robert Francis QC, whose report into the Mid Staffs scandal recommended staffing guidelines, has criticised the scrapping of the work. Photograph: Martin Godwin/Martin Godwin
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The NHS has been accused of backtracking on improvements to patient safety brought in after the Mid Staffordshire hospital scandal in an effort to tackle its escalating financial problems.

The National Institute of Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice) watchdog has unexpectedly scrapped work to set out how many nurses are needed in different parts of hospitals to ensure safe patient care.

The move drew sharp criticism from nurses’ leaders, patient safety campaigners and Sir Robert Francis, the QC whose official report into Mid Staffs recommended Nice draw up guidelines on NHS-wide safe staffing levels, because understaffing had contributed significantly to the scandal.

Nice – which is an independent body – said it had stopped devising a raft of patient to staff ratios intended to help guarantee patient safety in A&E units and mental health settings at the request of NHS England, which will now take over the work.

However the fear is that NHS England will either introduce lower standards – in terms of the number of nurses required – that are cheaper for hospitals to meet, or that the guidelines on the safe number of nurses will be abandoned altogether.

NHS England has already sparked concern by deciding to start publishing data on hospitals’ A&E waiting times monthly instead of weekly, and to scrap two targets covering patients’ right to be treated in hospital within 18 weeks of referral by their GP.

NHS England needs to make £22bn of efficiency savings to help close the £30bn gap expected in its finances by 2020. There are growing fears that hospitals will cut staff to help meet it.

“I am surprised and concerned by this news,” Francis told the Health Service Journal. Nice, which advises ministers and the NHS on the best ways to improve healthcare, is much better-suited to devising safe staffing ratios than NHS England, he added.

While he did not object to NHS England looking into staffing levels, “I specifically recommended the work which Nice has been undertaking for a reason, namely they have an evidence-based and analytical approach which I believed would be very helpful in filling what appeared to be a gap in the discussions on this topic. Nice also has an advantage not enjoyed by NHS England of being independent.”

Francis also implicitly criticised Simon Stevens, NHS England’s chief executive, who is believed to be behind the move. “I would not be surprised if this news generates a significant level of concern, and it seems a shame that the work of Nice has been stopped.”

Dr Peter Carter, chief executive of the Royal College of Nursing, said he feared that the NHS might repeat previous mistakes by reducing numbers of staff in order to save money.

“If staffing levels are not based on evidence there is a danger they will be based on cost. We must not repeat the mistakes of the past, where staffing levels were cut to save money, and patients suffered as a result. We are concerned that this move is driven by affordability, and patients and staff must be assured that this is not the case,” he said.

Julie Bailey, whose Cure The NHS campaign group played a key role in revealing the extent of poor care at Stafford Hospital in 2005-2009, said the move was an “absolute disgrace”. She warned Jeremy C*nt, the health secretary, that “you will lose all credibility with patients, public and Cure The NHS” by backing it.

“We are so disappointed, Jeremy C*nt has championed patients and their safety. This will be a huge step backwards. We’re not prepared to go back to those dark days. We fought too hard for the Francis report and now we must ensure that his recommendations matter and are implemented to ensure it never happens again,” Bailey added.

Nice has already produced safe staffing levels for adult acute wards and maternity units, which have been a key element of the NHS’s drive since Mid Staffs to improve safety.

But NHS England will now take over its planned work on devising further ratios for emergency departments, mental health units and community health service providers.

Nice pointedly stated that “NHS England has asked Nice not to begin new activity in its safe staffing programme”. Its planned work “is likely now to be taken forward as part of NHS England’s wider programme of work to help the NHS deal with the challenges it is facing over the next few years,” said Andrew Dillon, its chief executive.

Andy Burnham, the shadow health secretary, accused Jeremy C*nt of seeking to reduce the discomfort of weekly publication, often revealing that the A&E targets had been missed, especially over the winter.

“It’s hard to see what justification there can there be for moving A&E data from weekly to monthly reports. From a government that supposedly supports transparency this looks like a cynical attempt to bury bad news,” he said.

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« Reply #123 on: June 5, 2015, 10:53:04 am »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11644736/NHS-must-stop-making-excuses-and-improve-patient-care-Jeremy-Hunt-says.html

NHS must stop making excuses and improve patient care, Jeremy C*nt says


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The Health secretary says the NHS needs to deliver "its side of the bargain" and the "time for debate" about funding is over

The NHS must improve patient care and stop making excuses about a lack of funding after the government committed to giving it an extra £8billion a year, the health secretary says today.

In an article for The Telegraph, Mr Hunt says that the health service has the money it needs and must now "deliver its side of the bargain" and make "substantial and significant" savings.

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He says that the police have managed to cut crime significantly with reduced funding and called on hospitals to do the same by increasing standards of patient care while becoming more efficient.

It comes amid concerns about lengthening waiting times and rising numbers of hospitals missing targets to start treatment for cancer patients within two months.

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Mr Hunt has ordered a clampdown on "exorbitant" fees of up to £3,500 a shift charged for temporary doctors and nurses and accused staffing agencies of "ripping off" hospitals.

The strict new rules will introduce a maximum hourly rate for agency doctors and nurses, ban the use of agencies that are not approved, and put a cap on total agency staff spending for every NHS trust in financial difficulty.

NHS pays £1,600 a day for nurses as agency use soars

The Tories will also require hospitals to seek approval for spending more than £50,000 on management consultants while limiting excessive pay for executives.

The Conservatives have committed to meeting demands from the NHS bosses for an extra £8billion a year worth of funding by 2020. In return, health service bosses have agreed to £22billion worth of efficiency savings.

Mr Hunt argues that the safest hospitals are the most efficient and that it is "no coincidence" that the best in the world have the "healthiest" finances.

In his article Mr Hunt says: "The government has pledged at least £8billion more to help the NHS's own plan to transform services, including a seven-day operating offer that would cut the unacceptably high mortality rates for those admitted at weekends.

"But with that commitment from taxpayers, the time for debating whether or not it is enough is over. The NHS now needs to deliver its side of the bargain, which is to make significant efficiency savings.

"Can we really afford the kind of care we all want? It is an understandable worry with an ageing population, rising consumer expectations and tight public finances.

"With a strong economy, the answer is yes - but only if we care as much about every pound the NHS spends as every patient it treats. Because money wasted is money that can't be spent on those needing care."

A&E departments had their worst performance on record at Christmas
His intervention comes after an investigation by The Telegraph revealed that the revenue of Britain's 10 biggest medical recruiters rose by more than 40 per cent over three years, with companies posting £7.7billion takings since 2009.

Official figures show that NHS spending on temporary workers has reached a record £3.3billion high, and “catastrophic” levels of debt are being blamed on last year’s rise in agency bills.

NHS reports last month revealed an £822million deficit across the health service, blamed entirely on spiraling agency spending. Some trusts have spent up to £3,500 a shift for doctors.

In his article, Mr Hunt pledges to "wean the NHS off the understandable but growing addiction to temporary staffing" in the wake of a series of hospital scandals.

Hospitals will also be required to seek approval from regulators for spending more than £50,000 on management consultants to ensure "money is directed at patients rather than bureaucracy".

Mr Hunt compared the drive for efficiency savings to the airline industry, which has halved the cost of travel at the same time as halving aviation deaths, and police cuts under the Coalition which have seen crime fall.

He says that the principles of Nye Bevan, the founding father of the NHS, are the same as those on which the Conservative party weas built.

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He says: "It embodies the spirit of one nation, the compassionate country this government is trying to built, where we look out for each other and provide support for everyone who needs it.

"As Gary Kaplan, the visionary doctor who runs Virginia Mason hospital [one of the safest in the world] says: 'The path to safer care is the same as the path to lower cost.' Safety and sustainability go together, and I want the NHS to blaze a trail for both across the World."

Many NHS trusts have become entirely reliant on temporary workers. Between Christmas Eve and New Year’s Day more than half the shifts in some Accident and Emergency departments were worked by locum medics.

The Royal College of Nursing has said too few nurses were being trained in this country, forcing NHS trusts to pay inflated sums, to prevent dangerous levels of short-staffing.
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« Reply #124 on: June 5, 2015, 10:57:17 am »
Notice how the 2 articles tie in... making it impossible for some hospitals to run their services.

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« Reply #125 on: June 5, 2015, 11:48:49 am »
I couldn't read all that, Macca. But I want to say this... I've just commented in the Question Time thread about the Elephant in the room that nobody will mention, the Central Banks and their decitful money creation. But there's plenty of Elephant's sitting there and nobody on that telly will tell people about them.

TTIP.... have you ever seen it discussed on telly? I haven't. But then, I refuse to watch telly now. I'd far rather believe me own eyes. And I was in America when they signed NAFTA. It's TTIP's brother....

North American Free Trade Agreement - TransAtlantic Trade Investment Partnership... they love them fancy titles, but in plain English, it's Theft.

Have a look at Detroit and Baltimore. That's what Free Trade brought to the working class of America. And if TTIP flies, it's exactly what it will bring to our NHS.
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« Reply #126 on: June 5, 2015, 12:10:08 pm »
I couldn't read all that, Macca. But I want to say this... I've just commented in the Question Time thread about the Elephant in the room that nobody will mention, the Central Banks and their decitful money creation. But there's plenty of Elephant's sitting there and nobody on that telly will tell people about them.

TTIP.... have you ever seen it discussed on telly? I haven't. But then, I refuse to watch telly now. I'd far rather believe me own eyes. And I was in America when they signed NAFTA. It's TTIP's brother....

North American Free Trade Agreement - TransAtlantic Trade Investment Partnership... they love them fancy titles, but in plain English, it's Theft.

Have a look at Detroit and Baltimore. That's what Free Trade brought to the working class of America. And if TTIP flies, it's exactly what it will bring to our NHS.

The basic jist of them is they are scrapping minimum numbers of staff to patient (which varies depending on level of care needed) and stopping high cost agency nursing  (which personally ive known to cost a fortune and dont agree with but hospitals including one i worked at relyed upon it to keep up safe staffing levels).  Its more attempts at cost improvement but reducing levels of patient care.

And that agreement is nothing but greedy corporations trying to have us off. Ive already seen enough into that.
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« Reply #127 on: June 5, 2015, 03:18:18 pm »
Macca mate, it's an aul trick... run something into the ground, get people pissed off, come up with the answer.... sell it.
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« Reply #128 on: June 9, 2015, 10:48:05 pm »
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« Reply #129 on: June 10, 2015, 07:56:49 am »
Ha! Tony yer nut. I seen your comment in the other thread, made me laugh so I came to check. But thanks, because I'm really serious about this. I might seem bonkers but it's true. Weird set of circumstances really... I was in a terrible car crash in Connecticut in 1988, cut out the car, thought dead all that malarkey. I don't remember much of the first few days, but the hospital staff, nurses, doctors, and that, just like ours all lovely people and great with me. And in honesty, I'd have been dead if it wasn't for the blood transfusions. But that's not to say the corporations that supplied the blood weren't in the wrong.

They knew full well what they was doing. They didn't give a toss. I've since found out, treating the blood is no more than warming it up really. But they just sold it on without bothering. They don't know how many millions got infected. But one things for sure, the huge corporations like Bayer, that done it, won't pay a penny piece in compo. And it's not really about compo. But money's all they can give people, so of course the victims and their families want it. In fact, a lot of the people that want it, only want it to leave to their families. I've seen some awful stories, people too sick to work, ending up in all sorts of financial trouble, leaving their families in bad straits. So of course they want compo.

Governments since the 80's have hid this. It only started to really come out when people started dying and getting sick. They still tried to ignore it, and now they are lying, saying people have been compensated. They haven't. Some have been given payments by a charity, and they're means tested.

I don't give a toss about money. I only want to get well and get on with me life. Which is just aswell, because I won't get compo anyway. I tell you who'll be first to get weighed in, The Scots. They slag the SNP to bits, used them as the Bogey Man to scare Middle England. But the SNP are the only people fighting for their own people, and the Scots have knocked back a compo offer of 25k each and called it a "Whitewash," and "Silence Money." And in honesty, 25k isn't much to a family that have buried a still young mother or father. But if everybody infected, or their families, recieve 25k, it's going to add up to a big chunk of money, as thousands are infected.

And that's the real damage... The NHS will lose that money, which will stretch it even further and make it all the easier for the big pharma corporations to pick it off. And that's exactly what they'll do... cherry pick all the parts of the NHS that make a few quid, and leave the NHS to cover the mess. It's a terrible, snide situation.

As I say in that video, I was in America when they signed NAFTA. It was back in the 80's. Yanks were all still patriotic flag wavers back then. So, they bought the "Free Trade" idea hook line and sinker. It freed them alright, freed them off decent, well paid, manufacturing jobs and left them flipping burgers. They've already sold off all our industry. In fact, they've run out of things to sell. The NHS is the last of the family silver. It's already bollocksed. They've done that on purpose... The Conspiracy Theorists, like that whacko, Noam Chomsky, call it Problem, Reaction, Solution... meaning the dirty bastards cause the problem when there is none, wait for people to get pissed off, solve the problem they caused by selling it off to their mates.

Dirty rotten scoundrels the lot of them, they need their heads putting on the spikes of Traitors Gate. And I'm not messing saying that, I honestly consider what they are doing to us and our children Treason. And slyly selling the NHS off behind closed doors, to these monstrous corporations and their mates, is probably the worst treachery they've pulled. But then, it's got plenty of oppo for that title.
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« Reply #130 on: July 16, 2015, 05:09:38 pm »
http://web2.bma.org.uk/pressrel.nsf/wall/04ED6F506732F75980257E840015BCEC?OpenDocument

BMA's response to Jeremy C*nt's "wholesale attack" on doctors
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Responding to Jeremy C*nt’s "wholesale attack" on doctors and his comments on seven-day services, Dr Mark Porter, BMA council chair, said:

“Doctors support more seven-day hospital services and have repeatedly called on the government to outline how they will fund and staff them. Despite whatever the health secretary may claim, his simplistic approach ignores the fact that this is a much broader issue than just doctors’ contracts.

“Today’s announcement is nothing more than a wholesale attack on doctors to mask the fact that for two years the government has failed to outline any concrete proposals for introducing more seven-day hospital services. The health secretary has questions to answer. How does he plan to pay for it? How will he ensure there isn’t a reduction in mid-week services or fewer doctors on wards Monday to Friday? Yet again there are no answers.

“More than 80 per cent of the public believe that doctors alone cannot deliver seven-day services without proper support, yet the health secretary makes no mention of the extra nurses, diagnostic staff, porters, admin staff – the list goes on – that would be needed to deliver the same high level standard of care patients deserve seven-days a week.

“Doctors believe patients should have access to the same quality of care, seven days a week. If the health secretary wants the same he should be working with us, not setting artificial deadlines and attacking the very people who are the leading advocates for patients, protecting and improving patient care in the face of unprecedented rising demand and funding deficits.

“This is a blatant attempt by the government to distract from its refusal to invest properly in emergency care. So, I say again to the health secretary, get real and show us what you mean.”

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« Reply #131 on: July 16, 2015, 07:03:53 pm »
C4 news now about the Ambulance service cut by 75 million a year. Dispatchers having to send taxi's
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« Reply #132 on: July 16, 2015, 07:12:25 pm »
In London they've been sending the police to up to 80 shouts a night. For a couple of years now. Sometimes they are too scared to move the patient so they fly off on blues and twos to the hospital to fetch a doctor back. Sometimes they do move the patient but because they get blood in the car, the car is then out of action for the rest of the night. They are now getting rid of about 10,000 police officers so I suppose they'll start using bin lorries.
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« Reply #133 on: July 16, 2015, 07:32:41 pm »
This is why the NHS should and must be taken away from the control of political parties.
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« Reply #134 on: July 16, 2015, 10:52:36 pm »
In fact fuck it. It's a crock of shit. I had 3 fucking days off last month. That is it. That was full on xraying and ct scans even during weekends quite a few 12 hour shifts in there and I'm on a week of 12 hour nights next fucking week. That 7 of them. There is fuck all we don't offer out of hours an if we don't it's because there is no demand or there is no point.  We make cuts after cuts, work for fuck all compared to what a medical based degree should offer, and since I've been working in my profession I've had a jump in contracted hours which meant an hourly pay cut. A pay freeze. Our pensions fucked in every way, in that we pay more in, for longer and get less out. Staff numbers and funding cut and yet we are being told we need to do more. And they are trying the take our unsociable  hours pay off us which is fuck all but makes that week of nights actually worth doing.  Sick of the cheeky twats doing top down reorganisations of things they have no idea about.  An I know it's in the aim of privitisation but this needs to be fought.
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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #135 on: July 17, 2015, 12:35:26 am »
And they get a 10% rise.

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« Reply #137 on: July 17, 2015, 12:42:13 pm »
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« Reply #138 on: July 17, 2015, 04:05:42 pm »
The principle of a free, taxpayer-funded NHS 'must be questioned', says Tory health minister



The idea that the NHS can remain taxpayer-funded and free needs to be re-examined as costs rise, a Conservative health minister has said.

Lord Prior, the Government’s minister for NHS Productivity, is moving to set up an independent inquiry into whether the current free-at-the-point-of-use service is sustainable.

“At heart, our ability to have a world-class health system will depend on our ability to create the wealth in this country to fund it,” he told peers in the House of Lords who had raised the issue.

The minister said that though he personally supported the current system, demands for a change in the health service’s funding model should be examined.

“I am personally convinced that a tax-funded system is the right one. However, if demand for healthcare outstrips growth in the economy for a prolonged period, of course that premise has to be questioned,” he said.

“I would like to meet … to see whether we can frame some kind of independent inquiry—I do not think that it needs to be a royal commission,”

“The issue is: what will the long-term demand for healthcare be in this country in 10 or 20 years’ time? Will we have the economic growth to fund it?”

The Conservative election manifesto pledged that the UK would “always have access to a free and high quality health service” with the introduction of 7-day services.

The NHS has been rated by a number of studies as the most efficient major healthcare system in the developed world.

One piece of research from 2014, carried out by the US-based Commonwealth Fund, found the British system was significantly more efficient than those of the US, Switzerland, France and Germany.

Paul Evans, director of the NHS Support Federation told The Independent at the time: “It shows that the basic concept of the NHS not only works, it stands up well against all other systems.

“But within these results is a stark warning about opening up the NHS to the market and profit driven companies, like the US, as it is clearly not associated with care that is safe and effective for all.”

The announcement is the latest in a string of radical policies to be floated by Conservative ministers shortly after the general election campaign.

Culture Secretary John Whittingdale this week questioned the sustainability of the BBC TV licence system, while DWP Secretary Iain Duncan Smith has floated the idea of more private involvement in sickness and unemployment benefits.

The Government has also moved to print price labels on NHS drugs in order to make sick people aware of the costs of their treatment.

The comments by Lord Prior were made in the Government’s response to a parliamentary debate in the House of Lords on 9 July.

The minister added that the NHS was incredibly popular with the public and that “we have to be very careful in the messages that we give out as politicians”.

He added in a later statement to the Lords this week: "I believe fundamentally and passionately in a universal, tax-funded healthcare system—the NHS—that is free at the point of delivery and based on clinical need, not ability to pay. Having looked back on it, I do not remember uttering a word in that debate that would question that statement."

The Independent contacted the Department of Health for comment on this story. A Department of Health spokesperson said: "This is complete nonsense. This Government has made clear repeatedly that we are committed to a tax-funded NHS, free at the point of use, and as Jeremy C*nt said in the House of Commons on Thursday, there is no review on charging for NHS services. We have shown that commitment by investing the extra £8bn the NHS asked for to implement its own plan for the future.”

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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #139 on: July 17, 2015, 04:21:12 pm »
Bloody hell, here's Jeremy KHunt our NHS guardian angel. Here you have it, you voters for the Tories, Ukip and SNP hope you are loving this as you all must be so blooming rich and heartless!!! To say I'm angry is putting it mildly. :no :no :no

Jeremy C*nt raises doubts about long-term future of free NHS
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« Reply #140 on: July 17, 2015, 04:23:26 pm »
SNP


SNP?

If not one person had voted SNP and all voted Labour it would have been the same Election result.

The election was lost in England not Scotland.
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« Reply #141 on: July 17, 2015, 05:05:05 pm »
It's a shame that as a professional body doctors haven't had the bollocks to fight for things that have been taken away from them. Now is the time. Morale is at an all time low however so it will be difficult.
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« Reply #142 on: July 17, 2015, 05:47:12 pm »
SNP?

If not one person had voted SNP and all voted Labour it would have been the same Election result.

The election was lost in England not Scotland.
I was probably being over dramatic but make no excuses for my rage. I did also include Tory voters in my rant and the Ukip spoilers.
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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #143 on: July 17, 2015, 05:49:50 pm »
SNP?

If not one person had voted SNP and all voted Labour it would have been the same Election result.

The election was lost in England not Scotland.

Partly true but the rise of the SNP allowed the Tories to scaremonger about their power in a potential Labour minority administration to great effect, backed up as usual by their buddies in the press.

That's understandably not the prime concern of anyone voting in Scotland though.

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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #144 on: July 18, 2015, 01:55:44 am »
SNP?

If not one person had voted SNP and all voted Labour it would have been the same Election result.

The election was lost in England not Scotland.
It was the SNP scare used by the Tory filth and right wing fuckers of the press that pushed many moderate voters into the arms of the Tories.

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« Reply #145 on: July 18, 2015, 01:47:12 pm »
I love that #ImInWorkJeremy is top trending NHS staff taking to Twitter showing pictures of themselves at work at the weekend.
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« Reply #146 on: July 18, 2015, 07:16:19 pm »
Plenty of pictures on this one so worth going through the link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33578990?ocid=socialflow_facebook

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Rod Hammett tweeted that he was in the middle of an 80-hour shift and still smiling
Some NHS employees have been letting Health Secretary Jeremy C*nt know in no uncertain terms what they are up to this weekend.
Health workers have taken to Facebook and Twitter where they have posted photographs of themselves at work using the hashtag #ImInWorkJeremy.
It comes after Mr Hunt said he was prepared to impose seven-day working on hospital consultants in England, saying there was a "Monday to Friday culture" in parts of the NHS.
One worker, named Erica P from Brighton, tweeted a photo of herself with a stethoscope, writing that she was working 13 hours on Saturday.
Sebastian Nixon, another NHS worker, tweeted that he was also at work on Saturday, saying: "Damn these lazy doctors and their extravagant weekends."
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In a reply to his critics, Mr Hunt also took to Twitter - and also used the #ImInWorkJeremy hashtag - saying he wanted to make the NHS "safer".
It comes as Mr Hunt this week said consultants' working hours were having "tragic consequences" for patients, with 6,000 people dying each year because of weekend restrictions.
"The problem dates back to 2003 when the then government gave consultants the right to opt out of working at weekends - that's a right that nurses don't have, midwives don't have, paramedics, ambulance drivers and so on don't have," he said.
Dr Mark Porter, from the British Medical Association, accused Mr Hunt of being "too simplistic".
And now NHS workers have attempted to deliver their own message to Mr Hunt.
Among them was Clovis Rau, a junior doctor, who tweeted he had been in work on Friday night - and "all of this week".
Mr Rau also referenced previous comments by Mr Hunt in 2013 when he warned that "coasting" within the NHS can kill.
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Jenny Hartley, a junior doctor working at Frimley Park Hospital in Surrey, tweeted she was working last weekend, this weekend and next weekend.
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Anna Farmer also posted a picture of her NHS photo card on Twitter, asking: "What day is it again?"
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Trainee doctor Faisal tweeted a photograph of himself on Saturday morning, saying he was in work with two consultants.
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Rachel Clark took a slightly different stance. She tweeted a picture of her five-week-old child along with a handwritten note saying: "My daddy, a registrar, is in work Jeremy. I miss time with him."
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Even Mr Hunt got in on the act tweeting his thanks to doctors who worked shifts on Saturday.
He said there was a need for modern contracts to make the NHS "safer".
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« Reply #147 on: July 18, 2015, 07:20:13 pm »
It was the SNP scare used by the Tory filth and right wing fuckers of the press that pushed many moderate voters into the arms of the Tories.

Thats not the SNP's fault tells you more about us right now mostly scared sheep.
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« Reply #148 on: July 19, 2015, 11:07:02 am »
https://juniordoctorblog.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/weekend-mortality-and-the-7-day-nhs/

Weekend Mortality and the 7-day NHS
“If you are admitted to hospital on a Sunday, you are 15% more likely to die than on a Wednesday”.

This is Jeremy C*nt- quoting a paper without atribution from the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine, conducted in 2010 by Freemantle et al [1] amongst nearly 15 million admissions.

Here is the actual paper:
Here are the ACTUAL conclusions
Patients admitted on a Sunday were more likely to die over the next thirty days than a similar cohort of admissions on Wednesday- the ratio was 1.16 and the result significant, suggesting a true result of increased deaths by 16%
94% of these ‘admissions’ were emergencies
34% of deaths occurred within three days of admission
You are actually less likely to die if you are IN hospital on the weekend – the Sunday to Wednesday ratio here is 0.92, or 8% LESS likely. As the authors also conclude, this likely reflects the fact that high-risk, non-urgent procedures are performed during the week.
For elective (non-emergency) admissions, the ratio was 1.62 for Sunday to Wednesday, suggesting a 62% increased chance of death. This, as the authors conclude, is likely biased by the fact that high-risk elective patients are brought in early in general for exactly this reason, therefore this is unlikely to be significant.
Of 10 conditions specifically looked at, only 7 were found to show the same increased risk: sepsis, acute renal failure, cancer of the bronchus or lung, myocardial infarction, acute stroke, and congestive heart failure.
The authors also conclude: “7-day access to ALL ASPECTS of care” could improve such figures, but further ‘economic evaluation’ is required to ensure efficiency with ‘scant resources’ [para]
A further third of patients in this study died after discharge
So to summarise, you are 16% more likely to die, over the next thirty days, if you come into hospital on a Sunday- 30% will die within three days (Mon-Tues), and a further 30% will die after discharge. This only applies to emergency admissions, and a list of medical emergency conditions.
One major criticism, published by the authors themselves, is the fact that any conclusion completely ignores the reason for admission and the route of admission- there are no routine GP services on the weekend, and the impetus to admit on a weekend has to be higher than the week when most people would hold out for the GP unless they were very unwell. This immediately selects out a group of sicker patients than might routinely come in on a Wednesday.
Now we will play a game called ‘Jeremy C*nt spectacles’.
I look at this paper with ‘Jeremy C*nt Spectacles’ and read the abstract ‘admissions on a Sunday…16% more likely to die vs a wednesday’ and then completely stop reading and decide that a) 15% is a rounder, more soundbite-friendly number b) this must be the consultants fault c) I should go and tell them, loudly and with contract renegotiations for the entire consultant body. Or more realistically d) this would be excellent to further my agenda of privatising the NHS (despite that later in the paper the private US system shows the exact same pattern).
Now I take off the spectacles and look again.
The paper shows that patients admitted on Sunday, overwhelmingly emergencies, do worse during the entire course of their illness episode than those on Wednesday, but they deteriorate during the next three days (30%) over the weekdays, or even after discharge (34%) ie all on weekdays or even weeks of admission. Of the commonest conditions they are all medical emergencies.
Therefore, the suggestion is there is a decreased level of care on a Sunday admission, assuming that the patients are not genuinely sicker on average as suggested above, and that exarcebates or worsens an illness episode greater than a Wednesday admission. This extra initial insult, in 16% of patients, is not survivable. The ward patients however, appear generally unaffected weekend or weekday.
So what do the Wednesday patients get, that the Sunday patients don’t get? Consultants? In every hospital I have worked in that is simply not the case. Think about the admission process; in A&E there is always a consultant, on a 7-day 24-hour basis. Most have 3 or 4 at a time. For this set of patients they go to acute medicine where the standard is a daily consultant ward round, some twice or even thrice daily. So that is not going to help Mrs Sunday.*
What is not there? Only limited access to their GP, which in turn increases the workload in A&E, limited radiographer and lab techs, echocardiogram technicians, reduced pharmacy cover, and the hordes of office hours staff – secretaries for vital notes from other hospitals, semi-urgent referrals to other teams, the list goes on. In other words the missing £20 billion from the £100 billion budget that has already been cut away.
So, looking at the same problem, where emergency admissions are the chief cause of the 15% bump in mortality, what is the rational response? To increase funding and GP resources, to staff and fund A&E and acute medicine and other acute specialties and to support community services.
Has this been done? No.
Instead- GPs have been pushed on to duties they didn’t want in the form of the wholly rejected Health and Social Care Act, at a conservative estimated cost of £1.5 billion [2], and instead of funding and supporting emergency admissions A&Es have been closed and the specialty chronically under recruited, despite warnings. In other words, the areas designed to prevent this exact problem, identified in 2010, have been systematically underfunded and cut by the current Government for the last 5 years.
So, is an attack on consultant contracts, who are already working weekends and nights in vital areas, going to save 6100 lives? Clearly not. The system needs to extend through the multidisciplinary teams and out of the hospital and into GP land and social care- this needs to focus on emergency admissions. So while there is a neat political capital in claiming 7-day NHS services is good for patients- it’s an appeal to convenience, not safety, and no regard to resource. If you want all the staff and equipment and resources available 24 hours a day, you will need another two 8 hour shift equivalents- another 300,000 doctors, 800,000 nurses, 310,000 multi-discplinary team members. If you have a spare annual £200 billion, this would be a good time to speak up.
And in the meantime Lord Prior, the parliamentary under-secretary of state for NHS productivity, quietly announces an inquiry into private charges and insurance to fund the NHS. I.e to move the system from tax-funded to full charge-based private healthcare. [3]
So, Jeremy C*nt, is not stupid. He isn’t ignorant- he is inflammatory. He is not incompetent he is corrupt. There is an agenda here far wider than doctor-bashing.
While myself and my colleagues post #ImInWorkJeremy tweets in solidarity against changes to our contract, the political conversation is focused on us, while behind the scenes one of the greatest healthcare systems in the world is quietly dismantled by politicians and Lords with no democratic mandate to do so.
All doctors would like a 7-day NHS- we would like all the resources we have at the weekdays to do the best for our patients. Just come and witness the frustrated arguments with midnight radiographers and rushing to on call pharmacy at 11.55 am on a Saturday. But you learn to prioritise as well- that’s why you want to be the patient kept waiting, because the patient we are running to is usually the one in a hurry to die.
Perhaps Jeremy C*nt needs a lesson on prioritisation. Or perhaps he, Lord Prior and the rest of the Conservative government are not prioritising patients at all.
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*In fact this is exactly the changes made at Northumbria hospital, mentioned in the same breath in the same speech by Mr Hunt as an example 7-day service, to increase acute medicine and A&E Services, NOT the entire hospital.
**. And for what’s it’s worth: this is day 6 of my 12 day shift. Lazy old me.
[1] J R Soc Med. 2012 Feb;105(2):74-84 doi: 10.1258/jrsm.2012.120009. Epub 2012 Feb 2. Weekend Hospitalization and additional risk of death: an analysis of inpatient data. Freemantle N, Richardson M, Wood J, Ray D, Khosla S, Shahian D, Roche WR, Stephens I, Keogh B, Pagano D.
[2] http://www.kingsfund.org.uk/blog/2015/02/cost-reform
[3]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-principle-of-a-free-taxpayerfunded-nhs-must-be-questioned-says-tory-health-minister-10395991.html


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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #150 on: July 22, 2015, 05:32:30 pm »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-hunt-ever-think-what-5928869#ICID=sharebar_facebook

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I am in two minds about Jeremy C*nt.

Either he’s an incompetent moron who couldn’t be left alone with a plug socket without sticking his finger in it, or he knows exactly what he’s doing.

And if he knows exactly what he’s doing, then I'm worried the only solution to our problem will be to dip him in acid or toss him into a vat of molten steel.

You see, Jeremy Richard Streynsham Hunt – son of an admiral, direct descendant of Henry I, 4th cousin to the Queen and 5th cousin to Oswald Mosley – seems confused.

Jeremy C*nt opens emergency department at Lister Hospital
Jeremy C*nt needs help to carry out simple tasks
He is confused about logic, he is confused about what his job is, and he’s confused more than anything else about what it is that nurses do.


In 2010 he was a minister in a government which decided to cut 3,000 nurse training places.

At the same time they cut 6,000 registered nursing posts, and both figures have been cut again since (the government is able to say the numbers had risen because it includes health visitors, community midwives and school nurses in the figures).

So that’s 9,000 fewer nurses overall, and a three year lead time on training new ones, in a year when the NHS was already spending about £1billion a year on agency staff.

Logic would tell most of us that was a bad idea. That fewer staff, fewer trainees, and a big freelance bill was unsustainable for any organisation.

But Jeremy does not appear to have the same sort of logic as the rest of us.

In 2012, after screwing up being Culture Secretary in a number of ways, most memorably hiding behind a tree so the Press wouldn’t spot him being friendly with James Murdoch, Jeremy was promoted to Health Secretary.

This is a man described by someone who met him as “the thickest man in a suit that I’ve ever had a conversation with. There is nothing going on behind the eyes. It’s like trying to get through to a mollusc in a coma”.

Let’s not speculate about David Cameron’s reasons for promotion. I’d as soon ask Kerry Katona to defuse a nuclear bomb, but perhaps Dishface is an optimist.

Anyway in 2013 the Francis Inquiry set up to investigate the Mid Staffs scandal in which dozens of patients were found to have suffered and died without proper care found it was partly due to a lack of nurses.

Jeremy thought this was a jolly good excuse to kick the Labour Party so he told all the hospitals to have more nurses on duty.

So now every NHS trust in the UK suddenly needed even more nurses than they would have had if those 9,000 posts hadn’t been cut in 2010.

But they had been cut, so now they needed even more.

So they upped the agency staff, which last year cost us £5bn, and recruited abroad where nurses could be picked up for £6,000 a time and be paid less while they were here.

Today about 22% of NHS nurses are foreign born. The Royal College of Nursing reckons we’re still about 20,000 nurses short. The nurses we've got are threatening strikes and the situation in A&E is so bad that trolleys of sick people stretch as far as the eye can see.

So what’s Jeremy doing about it?

Crisis: The picture posted online is thought to show the hospital in Stoke, Staffs
People waiting to be treated at Royal Stoke University Hospital
After all, as Health Secretary his job is to look after our health.

And the NHS for all its flaws provides some of the cheapest healthcare in the world, so it’s worth preserving.

Well, Jeremy has told the NHS to stop whining and make more cuts.

He’s axed monitoring of the nursing statistics that embarrassed him, capped nursing agency pay, and now the Home Office is changing its immigration rules so that 30,000 foreign-born nurses can be kicked out.

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"I haven't thought this through at all! Ha ha!"
If you can remove your head from the nearest wall for a moment, it’s worth considering the fact that he’s watching while the cheapest nurses the NHS has are forcibly removed on the grounds that we have too many of them.

And this is AFTER the Royal College of Nursing pointed out there are 54,000 British people every year who want to train as nurses, but the government will fund just 20,000 of them.

So let’s just get this straight:

1) The Coalition cut a load of nurses

2) We need a load more nurses


3) Agency nurses will be capped


4) Foreign nurses will be kicked out


5) People who want to be nurses can’t


And to top it all, Jeremy says we can’t count nurses any more.


"Jeremy C*nt has done WHAT?"
Either this man is the kind of idiot that makes you wonder just how useless the other 249,999,999 sperm were, or he's a new and even more terrifying Terminator.

Due to being dense and/or evil, Jeremy behaves as though nurses aren't much use.

That they suck up cash, whinge, kill people on a whim, come here to claim benefits, and that their medical expertise could be easily replaced by a dock leaf.

Nurses are not perfect, it’s true. Some are incompetent, most are overworked, and one or two end up in jail.

But when you need one, you realise they are saving and improving the lives of strangers every single day without ever stopping to ask if the patient is perfect.

They don’t demand to know what we’re paid, or where we were born. They don’t tell us we can’t have their tax money because they disapprove of the guiding principles of the job we’re in.

Nurses just want to know where it hurts and how to fix it.

They’d even try to fix Jeremy C*nt, I expect, if he were to meet with an unfortunate smelting incident which of course I hope he doesn't
But I do hope he never needs a nurse. And that you and I don't need them either.

Because the chances are, if he's allowed to carry on tinkering with the NHS, they won't be there.

So let's just pray for unending, perfect health, shall we? It seems to be our only option.
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« Reply #151 on: July 23, 2015, 01:14:14 am »
Another one thats worth clicking on the link

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/7847662?1437568302
NHS Doctor Posts Payslip Online To Prove To Jeremy C*nt He's Paid 'Less Than Minimum Wage'
 11 hours ago | Updated 10 hours ago
George Bowden Social media writer, The Huffington Post UK
 A newly appointed NHS consultant has written an open letter to Health Secretary Jeremy C*nt claiming he is paid less than minimum wage for on-call duties.
Karan Kapoor posted the letter alongside his payslips on Facebook and it has now received hundreds of comments of support and thousands of shares on the social network.
He wrote in the letter: “My on calls per month add approximately 120 hours of work in addition to my normal working week. This is made up of being on call one day per week and one weekend in 5 - 5pm on Friday to 8am on Monday.
“Simple maths says that works out as £2.61 per hour - significantly less than the minimum wage let alone the living wage.”

 In response to Dr Kapoor's letter, one Facebook user wrote: "Shocking. Regardless..Thank you for not opting out and looking after our health."
Another said: "Well written, to the point and more importantly, unlike the Health Secretary, honest."
Mr Hunt has received criticism from health workers across the UK this week after he claimed the NHS was not currently a seven-day, twenty-four hour service.
The hashtag #ImInWorkJeremy trended on Twitter as hundreds of NHS workers pointed out their hard work over the weekend.
Meanwhile, a petition calling for Mr Hunt’s resignation has gained thousands of signatures.
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A petition calling for the removal or resignation of Jeremy C*nt has been signed by over 98,000 people
Dr Dan Furmedge created it on Sunday, and has since received the support of close to 100,000 people.
At the same time a further petition, this time held on Parliament's own website has gained enough signatures to be considered for debate.
Dr Ash Sadighi's call for politicians to 'debate a vote of no confidence' in Mr Hunt now has 150,000 supporters.
Last week, an open letter to the Prime Minister David Cameron by a junior doctor alluded to the low take home pay for those beginning their careers in the health service.
Dr Janis Burns wrote to Mr Cameron: “I would like you to look me, and every other doctor in the NHS, in the eye and tell us that you genuinely believe that we are being adequately paid for all the responsibility that rests on our shoulders.”
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« Reply #152 on: July 24, 2015, 05:18:46 pm »
Massive leaked NHS privatisation plan could shut 29 centres and make 800 staff redundant

A massive NHS privatisation plan worth up to £1bn is threatening to shut 29 centres across England, leaked documents reveal today.

Outraged union reps at Unison fear the plans, handed to the Liverpool Echo , will put the jobs of 800 hard-working admin staff at risk.

The workers are based at 32 Primary Care Support centres, which keep medical records up to date and send out letters to millions of patients.

NHS England is planning to hand responsibility for the centres to private company Capita in September.

Now proposals sent to staff suggest Capita is proposing to shut down 29 centres, leaving just three in Leeds, Preston and Essex.

NHS bosses insist the plans will free up cash for frontline staff as part of the Tories' vow to protect the NHS.

But it comes just months after Tory Jeremy C*nt signed the biggest privatisation deal in history - worth up to £780million.



Unison national officer Nick Bradley told members: "Any reorganisation could have been properly carried out by the NHS itself.

"Savings could have been used for the NHS rather than profit for a private company. PCS staff were effectively ignored."

Paul Summers, Unison's North West regional organiser, added: "The Tory government moved quickly after the election to privatise this important NHS function.

"Now we learn that profit-seeking private firm Capita plans to slash jobs in Liverpool and across England.

"The administration of patients' records will now be done by staff who are no longer employed by the NHS and based outside Liverpool. Local knowledge and experience will be lost.

"Privatisation invariably worsens services to the public because money is taken out as profit rather than being reinvested in the service."

According to the NHS memo the first six sites to go - Chelmsford, Yeovil, Derby, Mansfield, Leicester and Lincoln - will shut as soon as December this year.

Bevan House in Liverpool is expected to close no later than May 2016, while the the final sites earmarked for closure in Walsall and Hertfordshire will be axed in October 2016.

Wavertree Labour MP Luciana Berger, a shadow health minister, said: "This is devastating news for staff who will now be very worried about their jobs.

"The priority must be to ensure that they receive all the information, guidance and help they need in the coming months.

"I will be holding NHS England to account to ensure that staff receive the best possible support."

In the leaked document, Capita says the closures are necessary "in order to meet the service improvement and cost challenges that NHS England has required of us".

Capita has yet to be formally awarded the contract until certain legal work is finalised, but the Government has said the firm is its "preferred bidder".

Unison says 931 NHS staff who work at all the primary care support centres across the country will transfer to the employment of Capita in September.

Around 150 of these will be offered alternative employment, the union claims, but the rest - around 800 - face redundancy.

Capita declined to comment further, saying it had not yet won the contract and is only at the "preferred bidder" stage.

In the leaked document, the firm says its closure plans will be subject to "further due diligence and consultation... with unions and staff".

The contract to run the centres is reportedly worth between £400m and £1bn for up to 10 years.

An NHS England spokesman said: “These proposals would release substantial administrative savings to reinvest in frontline health services, and will form the basis of full consultation with the employees involved."

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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #153 on: July 24, 2015, 09:00:39 pm »
What a stupid fuck pobs wife is. Right now I'm on my 6th of 7 11 hour nights on the bounce.  It now has a correction at the bottom but  reading it has pissed me right off!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11755552/Michael-Gove-left-on-crutches-by-the-lack-of-Sunday-NHS-services.html

Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove left on crutches because he couldn't get an X-ray over weekend

Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove leaves Shepton Mallet hospital on crutches
Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove leaves Shepton Mallet hospital on crutches
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Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove's wife has called for all NHS services to be available 24/7, after her husband was let down by the lack of Sunday services

Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove has been unable to receive treatment for a possible fractured foot because parts of the NHS shut down on the weekends, his wife has said.

Sarah Vine, an outspoken newspaper columnist, reported that the Justice Secretary was unable to see a doctor during the week because of his busy schedule, and had been left “hobbling around on crutches, chucking down painkillers” due to the lack of Sunday services.

The Justice Secretary hurt his foot on Saturday night. His wife drove him to a minor injuries unit the next morning.

Despite being told by a nurse that his foot is “probably broken”, he was not able to get an X-ray, as the unit's radiology department was closed.

Ms Vine argues that the incident proves the need for the “reformation” of the NHS that Jeremy C*nt, the Health Secretary, has set out, which most notably included plans to create seven-day service in all departments.

Sarah Vine with husband Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove and their dog

Sarah Vine and her husband Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove, outside Parliament

She says that her husband, “like most people, doesn’t have a spare half-day to sit around awaiting the pleasure of the hospital radiographer”, and calls for all departments to work longer hours to provide for people like him.

Her comments come as the British Medical Association hit back at the Health Secretary’s proposals, stating that they amount to a “wholesale attack” on the “precious institution”.

They claim that all patients, regardless of the severity of their complaint, will be seen in 24 hours, despite a clause in consultant’s contracts which allows them to opt out of non-emergency work during weekends or evenings.

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this article wrongly implied that all NHS radiology departments close on Sundays. They are in fact open 24 hours a day for emergencies in many hospitals other than the minor injuries unit attended by Mr Gove. We are happy to make this clear.
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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #154 on: July 24, 2015, 09:34:22 pm »
Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove's wife has called for all NHS services to be available 24/7, after her husband was let down by the lack of Sunday services

Hope they both die of fucking gangrene.

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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #155 on: July 24, 2015, 09:36:53 pm »
The thing that amazed me about that story... There is a Mrs Gove   ???

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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #156 on: July 24, 2015, 09:46:09 pm »
The great British people voted for a privatised NHS. Or maybe not, who knows what goes on, in that mind space. Hard to call really, given history.
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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #157 on: July 26, 2015, 06:38:44 am »
Other than the shite in the article above I've just found out that the community based minor injuries unit Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove attended is run by a private firm. Absolute fuck wit

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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #158 on: July 26, 2015, 02:08:37 pm »
that documentary was pretty powerful nhs the perfect storm,,,panorama special.
the numbers are extraordinary.
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Re: "Sell-Off" - The Abolition of Your NHS
« Reply #159 on: July 26, 2015, 02:11:05 pm »
Other than the shite in the article above I've just found out that the community based minor injuries unit Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove attended is run by a private firm. Absolute fuck wit

Apparently it's not. The health centre is run by a private company however the MIU is run by the NHS.