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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27320 on: September 2, 2022, 11:31:48 am »
I've only just realised they got less than £30m for Werner and Gilmour combined (plus paying off the contracts for Barkley and Alonso).  In a market where they paid double that for Cucurella it highlights how dysfunctional they are at negotiating.

Amusingly Transfermarkt has the market values of their arrivals and departures at almost exactly the same amount; £287.73m for their arrivals and £287.37m for their departures.  It's quite the achievement to do that whilst having a net spend of over £200m!

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-chelsea/transfers/verein/631

Like I said to someone in another thread - transfer market is pretty terrible at their numbers.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27321 on: September 2, 2022, 11:49:29 am »
Like I said to someone in another thread - transfer market is pretty terrible at their numbers.
Sorry, I missed that comment.  Terrible in what way?  The reported fees or their "market value" calculations?

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27322 on: September 2, 2022, 12:34:31 pm »
Sorry, I missed that comment.  Terrible in what way?  The reported fees or their "market value" calculations?

the market value is all over the place, some of them are genuinely bonkers  ;D

With the actual transfer fees, they often do tend to put the initial fee rather than the complete fee. So that can be a little missleading. But then for other deals - they put the full fee. So it’s a bit hard to get an accurate amount unless you know already what the fee was.

It’s a great site, but yeah, the market values should be taken with a massive mound of salt.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27323 on: September 2, 2022, 12:54:58 pm »
the market value is all over the place, some of them are genuinely bonkers  ;D

With the actual transfer fees, they often do tend to put the initial fee rather than the complete fee. So that can be a little missleading. But then for other deals - they put the full fee. So it’s a bit hard to get an accurate amount unless you know already what the fee was.

It’s a great site, but yeah, the market values should be taken with a massive mound of salt.
Thanks  :thumbup

Scanning down the Chelsea transfers the market values don't seem wild (e.g. they underpaid for Sterling but overpaid for Fofana and Cucurella).  That said, I can rarely make sense of the fees that players move for and the old adage that something's worth what somebody else is willing to pay for it is very true.  Barkley having a market value of £10m is definitely one outlier on that page, especially as it seems they were unable to give him away!

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27324 on: September 2, 2022, 12:56:15 pm »
There's a Swiss Ramble thread about this from earlier this week.

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1559060509911093248

According to that, somehow Chelsea are going to be easily with-in the Premier League FFP rules even with the enormous spending.


Thanks, explains a lot.  a big one off spend then shut the wallet.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27325 on: September 3, 2022, 04:23:29 pm »
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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27326 on: September 3, 2022, 04:25:15 pm »
They're playing like they did before Roman turned up

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27327 on: September 3, 2022, 04:28:09 pm »
Tommy T looking for another pay off.  ::)

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27328 on: September 3, 2022, 04:35:00 pm »
Tommy T looking for another pay off.  ::)

Maybe he'll end up at Newcastle next, given his recent managerial history.
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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27330 on: September 3, 2022, 07:01:02 pm »
These apparently put in a £50million bid for Lavia from Southampton who only signed for them 2 months ago and has played 5 games. Would have been a £38mill profit

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27331 on: September 3, 2022, 11:25:24 pm »
They're playing like they did before Roman turned up
Gotta revert back to form don't they?

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27332 on: September 4, 2022, 09:02:06 am »
if you realize, Mwndy did the exact same thing in 1st Westham goal and expected a foul

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27333 on: September 6, 2022, 09:44:47 pm »
They look bad for a team that has spent more than 300 million in one window. Hell, they look worse than they did last season.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27334 on: September 6, 2022, 10:10:25 pm »
Don't be surprised to see Poch turn up in the near future!

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27335 on: September 6, 2022, 10:21:31 pm »
I thought making loads of signings made you instantly amazing and is the be all and end all of football?

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27336 on: September 6, 2022, 10:27:34 pm »
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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27337 on: September 6, 2022, 10:52:38 pm »
They paid 75M for Fofana, 62M for Cucurella and 33M for Koulibaly yet they manage to be even worse defensively.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27338 on: September 6, 2022, 10:56:07 pm »
Would Potter take that job if offered it on Monday?

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27339 on: September 6, 2022, 11:02:46 pm »
Lose or draw against Fulham and he's gone  :wave
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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27340 on: September 6, 2022, 11:09:31 pm »
Great how these are suddenly shit again. Is Tuchel the German Brendan Rodgers? Great for a season or two before things go south.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27341 on: September 7, 2022, 12:26:22 am »
I thought making loads of signings made you instantly amazing and is the be all and end all of football?
Same strategy has worked well for United.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27342 on: September 7, 2022, 12:40:04 am »
Great how these are suddenly shit again. Is Tuchel the German Brendan Rodgers? Great for a season or two before things go south.
At PSG, he initially charmed them with good performances and results but it became stale in his second season. Their fans couldn't wait to see the back of him because they felt:

i. He lacked the charisma to drive the team on in difficult situations.
ii. He played players out of position- Marquinhos at DM and Danilo at CB.
iii. He threw their board under the bus despite having a lot to spend.

It's similar to what's happening now because he complained about investment before Aubameyang was brought in. His transfer record is crap for someone that has spent so much.
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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27343 on: September 7, 2022, 02:16:50 am »
Same strategy has worked well for United.

When? This year?

Not after the first two games it didn't. And if you think they are amazing, well....

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27344 on: September 7, 2022, 03:18:31 am »
When? This year?

Not after the first two games it didn't. And if you think they are amazing, well....
That was meant to be tongue in cheek given they have spent a decade throwing money around with little return.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27345 on: September 7, 2022, 04:32:38 am »
New manager bounce just in time for our game - you’ll see….
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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27346 on: September 7, 2022, 06:00:46 am »
They were shit before Roman, and now they're shit after Roman, Ken Bates spent some money too. Chelsea are done, dont see them troubling the top 4 this season.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27347 on: September 7, 2022, 08:43:06 am »
New manager bounce just in time for our game - you’ll see….

Tuchel always gets them up for Liverpool anyway and Kante always returns from an injury to have a stormer.

It seems like Lampard's last season anyway, spent a fortune and team not gelling/performing. The usual mid-season Chelsea new manager bounce could be needed.
Could have done with Grujic and even Chirivella to tide us over this season

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27348 on: September 7, 2022, 08:48:40 am »
Tuchel always gets them up for Liverpool anyway and Kante always returns from an injury to have a stormer.

It seems like Lampard's last season anyway, spent a fortune and team not gelling/performing. The usual mid-season Chelsea new manager bounce could be needed.
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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27349 on: September 7, 2022, 10:04:13 am »
Tuchel always gets them up for Liverpool anyway and Kante always returns from an injury to have a stormer.

It seems like Lampard's last season anyway, spent a fortune and team not gelling/performing. The usual mid-season Chelsea new manager bounce could be needed.

Hazard always had a blinder against us as well.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27350 on: September 7, 2022, 10:08:57 am »
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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27351 on: September 7, 2022, 10:10:23 am »
Chelsea Football Club part company with Thomas Tuchel.
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« Reply #27352 on: September 7, 2022, 10:10:47 am »
Expect to see Poch there pretty soon.
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« Reply #27353 on: September 7, 2022, 10:11:43 am »
Seems a bit mad.

Pochettino the obvious choice.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27354 on: September 7, 2022, 10:12:16 am »
Can you remember when they were comparing him with Klopp? :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

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« Reply #27355 on: September 7, 2022, 10:12:36 am »
:lmao

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« Reply #27356 on: September 7, 2022, 10:12:57 am »
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« Reply #27357 on: September 7, 2022, 10:14:25 am »
New manager bounce just in time to face us then, is it?

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« Reply #27358 on: September 7, 2022, 10:14:44 am »
Bye bye, German Roberto di Matteo.

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Re: Chelsea FC - Sponsored by “The Liquidator"
« Reply #27359 on: September 7, 2022, 10:14:49 am »
He’s quite good at engineering this situation, gets a payoff, finds a new job, rinse and repeat.