Author Topic: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s) (Read 190842 times)

Had to watch it on C4 for the first time in ages. The coverage was shocking. It wasn’t showing half the driver on a hot lap half the time and just showing someone trudging around. Not to mention the comms didn’t even realise someone going faster a load of times too.

El Lobo · « **Reply #2452 on:** July 2, 2022, 04:04:11 pm »

Pretty poor from the Mercs considering how fast they’ve been

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #2453 on:** July 2, 2022, 04:05:05 pm »

Quote from: CraigDS on July 2, 2022, 04:03:02 pm

Had to watch it on C4 for the first time in ages. The coverage was shocking. It wasn’t showing half the driver on a hot lap half the time and just showing someone trudging around. Not to mention the comms didn’t even realise someone going faster a load of times too.

The Sky footage is free too.

I watched C4 yesterday and thought I couldn’t handle that again.

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #2454 on:** July 2, 2022, 04:06:46 pm »

Think the cool down lap by Mercedes the lap before their last one was too slow so the tyres were cold.

Tried too hard to be late across the line rather than keeping temperature in the tyres.

Crowd are probably happy for ABV (anyone but Verstappen).

Linudden · « **Reply #2455 on:** July 2, 2022, 04:08:28 pm »

Well you know what the locals feel about Verstappen... when they cheer on a Ferrari. At Silverstone

Having said that, it's a lucky pole but I'll take it. Will be very difficult to convert this into a win tomorrow for either car but sets up a double podium nicely.

naYoRHa2b · « **Reply #2456 on:** July 2, 2022, 04:11:27 pm »

Sainz out of nowhere. He needed that really.

CraigDS · « **Reply #2457 on:** July 2, 2022, 04:11:28 pm »

Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on July 2, 2022, 04:05:05 pm

The Sky footage is free too.

I watched C4 yesterday and thought I couldn’t handle that again.

I don’t have sky on the TV upstairs which is the only reason I ended up watching it on C4. Won’t be making that mistake again.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #2458 on:** July 2, 2022, 04:13:07 pm »

Disappointed for Norris, did some good times but swallowed up by the usual crowd at the end.

Linudden · « **Reply #2459 on:** July 2, 2022, 04:16:23 pm »

Quote from: Dave McCoy on July 2, 2022, 03:57:22 pm

Yeah that was another brilliant chapter in the GOATifi meme. The legend grows

voodoo ray · « **Reply #2460 on:** July 2, 2022, 04:37:30 pm »

keanu reeves there being exactly the kind of celeb interview they should be doing.

west_london_red · « **Reply #2461 on:** July 2, 2022, 06:03:15 pm »

Quote from: Linudden on July 2, 2022, 04:08:28 pm

Well you know what the locals feel about Verstappen... when they cheer on a Ferrari. At Silverstone

Having said that, it's a lucky pole but I'll take it. Will be very difficult to convert this into a win tomorrow for either car but sets up a double podium nicely.

Ferrari have always had good support in Silverstone even going back to the Schumacher days and even after the run ins with Hill.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #2462 on:** July 2, 2022, 06:06:04 pm »

ferrari get cheered everywhere. they're ferrari.

iamnant · « **Reply #2463 on:** July 3, 2022, 10:15:57 am »

The halo proving it's worth yet again in a nasty crash in F2. Potentially saved his life there.

Ed-Zeppelin · « **Reply #2464 on:** July 3, 2022, 11:14:30 am »

Quote from: iamnant on July 3, 2022, 10:15:57 am

The halo proving it's worth yet again in a nasty crash in F2. Potentially saved his life there.

Yep, and the commentators making a good point that the sausage kerbs used on tracks are actually dangerous in these situations as they act as a ramp to launch the cars. Seems this incident really showed that. Would expect the FIA to do something about those kerbs based on this example.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #2465 on:** July 3, 2022, 12:06:40 pm »

is it just me or is 3pm a weird start time? they do seem to have shunted them around quite a bit in recent years.

Linudden · « **Reply #2466 on:** July 3, 2022, 12:20:35 pm »

I think it's some local time difference and also to cater to the US market. Having said that, in summer a 4 pm local time start in mainland Europe is totally fine if you have a three-hour limit to get the race in. Personally think the three-hour limit is totally bogus and it should be determined by daylight viability. There was absolutely no reason to hang the chequered flag out at 6 pm a few laps early in Monaco.

However, with the way convection works it's usually a bad idea to have races stretch through the latter parts of the afternoon. Especially in mainland Europe this is when thunderstorms build up and release. Therefore I'll always prefer 2 pm CET as the race start no matter what.

jackh · « **Reply #2467 on:** July 3, 2022, 12:41:50 pm »

Quote from: iamnant on July 3, 2022, 10:15:57 am

The halo proving it's worth yet again in a nasty crash in F2. Potentially saved his life there.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/1543534822471204864

Quote from: Ed-Zeppelin on July 3, 2022, 11:14:30 am

Yep, and the commentators making a good point that the sausage kerbs used on tracks are actually dangerous in these situations as they act as a ramp to launch the cars. Seems this incident really showed that. Would expect the FIA to do something about those kerbs based on this example.

Remember this one from F3 in 2019?

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/AuvHv_VRUM8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/AuvHv_VRUM8</a>

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YouTube auto-ran into this video, and it's amazing to think that the drivers got away pretty-much injury free in most of these - the impact of the Webber and Schumacher incidents in particular.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPwhmjQt3vo

jackh · « **Reply #2468 on:** July 3, 2022, 12:54:55 pm »

https://twitter.com/redbullracing/status/1543556884128481281

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #2469 on:** July 3, 2022, 01:10:03 pm »

Has everyone gone off Trent now he's part of Team Max?

El Lobo · « **Reply #2470 on:** July 3, 2022, 01:11:52 pm »

He’s no Reece James that’s for sure

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #2471 on:** July 3, 2022, 01:12:16 pm »

Quote from: El Lobo on July 3, 2022, 01:11:52 pm

He’s no Reece James that’s for sure

IgorBobbins · « **Reply #2472 on:** July 3, 2022, 01:12:53 pm »

Trent is dead to me now.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #2473 on:** July 3, 2022, 01:13:50 pm »

you reckon trent had ever heard of max verstappen before?

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #2474 on:** July 3, 2022, 01:15:48 pm »

Quote from: voodoo ray on July 3, 2022, 01:13:50 pm

you reckon trent had ever heard of max verstappen before?

I maybe wrong but I thought he'd been following Max on his instagram for a while.

Linudden · « **Reply #2475 on:** July 3, 2022, 01:44:04 pm »

Trent is proof that Max got a diverse range of friends ay?

In all seriousness, hopefully he's having a good time at the track. If I was a footballer living in England I could think of better places to spend my vacation than on the plains of East Midlands but hey whatever floats your boat!

rob1966 · « **Reply #2476 on:** July 3, 2022, 01:51:28 pm »

Quote from: Linudden on July 3, 2022, 01:44:04 pm

Trent is proof that Max got a diverse range of friends ay?

In all seriousness, hopefully he's having a good time at the track. If I was a footballer living in England I could think of better places to spend my vacation than on the plains of East Midlands but hey whatever floats your boat!

Massive event in the F1 calendar and jam packed with "celebrities", not a bad free day out in between pissing about in Dubai and getting back to training.

I'm still pissed off I missed the text this week to drive one of the F1 trucks to Belgium/Austria tonight.

jackh · « **Reply #2477 on:** July 3, 2022, 01:59:06 pm »

Quote from: rob1966 on July 3, 2022, 01:51:28 pm

Massive event in the F1 calendar and jam packed with "celebrities", not a bad free day out in between pissing about in Dubai and getting back to training.

I'm still pissed off I missed the text this week to drive one of the F1 trucks to Belgium/Austria tonight.

Didn't know you did this, Rob - we've a family friend who used to drive trucks for Goodyear, McLaren, and Williams.

Still got fond memories of my first visit to Silverstone, for a test session in 2003 - we were able to get into the garage and I had my hand on Montoya's seat whilst looking down the footwell at the pedals at one point. Can't believe that over 19 years ago...!

rob1966 · « **Reply #2478 on:** July 3, 2022, 02:02:22 pm »

Quote from: jackh on July 3, 2022, 01:59:06 pm

Didn't know you did this, Rob - we've a family friend who used to drive trucks for Goodyear, McLaren, and Williams.

Still got fond memories of my first visit to Silverstone, for a test session in 2003 - we were able to get into the garage and I had my hand on Montoya's seat whilst looking down the footwell at the pedals at one point. Can't believe that over 19 years ago...!

You have to sign up for Special Operations before the start of the season, we work for Mercedes, I don't do it, but this week they were looking for additional drivers to help run the trucks over after the race today and I missed the bloody message on the app

reddebs · « **Reply #2479 on:** July 3, 2022, 02:02:36 pm »

Big Virg there too 👍