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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - END GAME
« Reply #33360 on: July 2, 2022, 10:46:18 am »
Agent Salah closing on the Veratti deal

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« Reply #33361 on: July 2, 2022, 11:04:11 am »
As disguises go, thats not a good one from Salah.

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« Reply #33362 on: July 2, 2022, 11:14:33 am »
Read it was £240k earlier in the season ( Bild )
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« Reply #33363 on: July 2, 2022, 11:25:32 am »

I'd guess we were only maybe looking at him in case the Salah negotiations went south and he left.

Yeah as things stand Salah, Díaz, Jota and Carvalho is a rather strong lineup of actual or prospective wide forwards. If there's a good window to get Gnabry onboard next summer I wouldn't be against it but if the front line delivers this year there's no reason to pursue that.

If Bellingham is available either through a transfer this summer or an agreement in principle (maybe a transfer now, loan back a year to get a discount) it's a lot more urgent need to press on with. The midfield is aging out at this rate with Henderson and Thiago above 31 and Fabinho turning 30 next year. Milner is obviously 36 and can't play with the same energy as before for 90 minutes. It's clear that there will be a need to bring in one or even two midfielders in the coming 12 months to successfully hand the relay pin to the next generation.
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« Reply #33364 on: July 2, 2022, 11:32:36 am »
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« Reply #33365 on: July 2, 2022, 11:54:26 am »
Would Gnabry be a free transfer next season? If so and we could sign him that'd be brilliant, he'd be 28 then I think so still a few good years ahead of him. Might not be entirely needed or anything but he's a fun player. Midfield will be interesting next summer, especially if we don't sign one this time around, as there's a chance we'll need more than one.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - END GAME
« Reply #33366 on: July 2, 2022, 12:15:03 pm »


Doubt we go after a forward now next summer after the Salah extension. The priority will be midfielder(s)

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« Reply #33367 on: July 2, 2022, 01:19:30 pm »
Did a stat comparison between Mane and Gnabry. They are eerily similar statistically even down to defensive pressures. Def on board if they can bring him in cheap. Although ideally you want a natural lefty to give Salah competition. But he’s very productive and only 26. Not sure why Bayern aren’t looking to retain him

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - END GAME
« Reply #33368 on: July 2, 2022, 01:41:51 pm »
Agent Salah closing on the Veratti deal


The guy with the protective glove about to inject him with a toothpick looks a bit sinister

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« Reply #33369 on: July 2, 2022, 03:15:02 pm »
Aaaah Bild. The only German newspaper to be the inspiration for a Housemartins track.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - END GAME
« Reply #33370 on: July 2, 2022, 03:16:29 pm »
The guy with the protective glove about to inject him with a toothpick looks a bit sinister
Well it is Mykonos, right? Hey, maybe Maguire was on to something after all...
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« Reply #33371 on: July 2, 2022, 04:31:49 pm »
By all accounts, he was excellent at Fulham, so I'd be a bit surprised if they didn't come back in for him at some point.
You’d hope so, but maybe they see greater value elsewhere. They’re heavily linked to Wolfsburg’s Kevin Mbabu for around half the fee we’re rumoured to want for Neco.
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« Reply #33372 on: July 2, 2022, 06:59:43 pm »
OK, I'm biased being a fan, but I think that the Liverpool signings this transfer window would be the most exciting ones for a neutral person, especially considering the club level in the game. One point off City over four seasons and we got in Nunez on Mane and resigned Salah (no more distractions). Elliott (who wasn't lucky last season) and Carvalho are expected to make big strides, and Curtis will be more established MF. There is still a gap in MF, but Bellingham must be salivating over the prospect of joining us. In defense, we are stoked up with great CBs, LB and RB now have good cover. Isn't this the most rounded team?!...
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« Reply #33373 on: July 2, 2022, 08:51:27 pm »
Forest are signing a right back from Troyes, so that’s one fewer club in for Williams

Totally LFC-relevant comment: I lived in Troyes for a year. It's a cool little city and I loved it there. I went to a few matches (this was 2005-2006, during a short sting in Ligue 1), and they were fine - but I seriously never saw a single person wearing any sort of shirt/scarf/whatever outside of the stadium. A few other clubs' supporters wandered around town chanting at people, but the response was usually a bemused "I don't even know what you're talking about" face. The only time I ever noticed any sort of excitement for a match was when Lyon were in town...because all of the girls in the high school where I taught thought Coupet was handsome.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - END GAME
« Reply #33374 on: July 2, 2022, 09:01:40 pm »
OK, I'm biased being a fan, but I think that the Liverpool signings this transfer window would be the most exciting ones for a neutral person, especially considering the club level in the game. One point off City over four seasons and we got in Nunez on Mane and resigned Salah (no more distractions). Elliott (who wasn't lucky last season) and Carvalho are expected to make big strides, and Curtis will be more established MF. There is still a gap in MF, but Bellingham must be salivating over the prospect of joining us. In defense, we are stoked up with great CBs, LB and RB now have good cover. Isn't this the most rounded team?!...
Media will surely have all eyes on Haaland, but that suits us just fine.

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« Reply #33375 on: July 2, 2022, 09:06:47 pm »
OK, I'm biased being a fan, but I think that the Liverpool signings this transfer window would be the most exciting ones for a neutral person, especially considering the club level in the game. One point off City over four seasons and we got in Nunez on Mane and resigned Salah (no more distractions). Elliott (who wasn't lucky last season) and Carvalho are expected to make big strides, and Curtis will be more established MF. There is still a gap in MF, but Bellingham must be salivating over the prospect of joining us. In defense, we are stoked up with great CBs, LB and RB now have good cover. Isn't this the most rounded team?!...

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« Reply #33376 on: July 2, 2022, 09:31:46 pm »
It was the best squad last season but as of right now there is no debate, we have the best squad.

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« Reply #33377 on: July 2, 2022, 09:54:49 pm »
It was the best squad last season but as of right now there is no debate, we have the best squad.

We have an excellent squad, the way the club was able to avoid too many muscle related injuries played a massive part in our season

Still short in midfield but we should be set for another fun season

Massive opportunity for Elliott and jones to establish themselves as the successors to Henderson and Thiago, Jones in particular has a lot to prove

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« Reply #33378 on: July 2, 2022, 10:03:37 pm »
If you want some Saturday Night Bullshit you've come to the right place.

Apparently...we're going to submit a £91 million + add-ons offer for Jude Bellingham.  ;D

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« Reply #33379 on: July 2, 2022, 10:06:17 pm »
If you want some Saturday Night Bullshit you've come to the right place.

Apparently...we're going to submit a £91 million + add-ons offer for Jude Bellingham.  ;D

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« Reply #33380 on: July 2, 2022, 10:07:49 pm »
A deeper cesspool that is Liverpool Reddit.   ;D

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« Reply #33381 on: July 2, 2022, 10:13:14 pm »
If you want some Saturday Night Bullshit you've come to the right place.

Apparently...we're going to submit a £91 million + add-ons offer for Jude Bellingham.  ;D

I don't know who your source is, but I'm sure they're a reliable chap, and the information is concrete.

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« Reply #33382 on: July 2, 2022, 10:17:28 pm »
Thanks lad, I've always loved you more than your cousin Croissant.

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« Reply #33383 on: July 2, 2022, 10:18:24 pm »
Rather unsurprisingly the only source for this figure when you search Google is one of your own posts on here  ::)

Try €19 million per season, in German, you Google expert ...
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« Reply #33384 on: July 2, 2022, 10:19:58 pm »
Thanks lad, I've always loved you more than your cousin Croissant.

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« Reply #33385 on: July 2, 2022, 10:21:55 pm »
If you want some Saturday Night Bullshit you've come to the right place.

Apparently...we're going to submit a £91 million + add-ons offer for Jude Bellingham.  ;D

You never disappoint Samie ;D

The Rabiot/Keita swap deal has been my favourite rumour of late. There have been about 10 actual swap deals in the last couple of decades. But Rabiot and Keita, both in the last 12 months of their contracts?

TRADE.

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« Reply #33386 on: July 2, 2022, 10:32:10 pm »
Will wait until a proven source like grizz khan confirms it

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« Reply #33387 on: July 2, 2022, 10:44:59 pm »
If you want some Saturday Night Bullshit you've come to the right place.

Apparently...we're going to submit a £91 million + add-ons offer for Jude Bellingham.  ;D
I did think we might launch a bid this summer but include Naby.

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« Reply #33388 on: July 2, 2022, 11:24:59 pm »
We have an excellent squad, the way the club was able to avoid too many muscle related injuries played a massive part in our season

Still short in midfield but we should be set for another fun season

Massive opportunity for Elliott and jones to establish themselves as the successors to Henderson and Thiago, Jones in particular has a lot to prove

?????  We have 7-9 players (depending on whether or not you count Morton and whether Ox stays and plays in mf this year) for 3 positions.  I guess you could argue the quality isn't there but I'm not sure what the argument would be considering we easily have 2 world class players in Fab and Thiago and a couple more who are very good and can be world class on their day.  Add to that two incredible young talents and I'd say we are pretty set in midfield for the year. 

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« Reply #33389 on: July 3, 2022, 12:33:21 am »
Rather unsurprisingly the only source for this figure when you search Google is one of your own posts on here  ::)

I tried that, and you're right  ;D
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« Reply #33390 on: July 3, 2022, 01:10:27 am »
I tried that, and you're right  ;D
Try €19 million per season, in German, you Google expert ...

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« Reply #33391 on: July 3, 2022, 02:35:38 am »
?????  We have 7-9 players (depending on whether or not you count Morton and whether Ox stays and plays in mf this year) for 3 positions.  I guess you could argue the quality isn't there but I'm not sure what the argument would be considering we easily have 2 world class players in Fab and Thiago and a couple more who are very good and can be world class on their day.  Add to that two incredible young talents and I'd say we are pretty set in midfield for the year.

It’s not about numbers it’s about quality and having the right attributes at our disposal, we have too many nice players, I’d like us too find someone who will make us horrible to play against

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« Reply #33392 on: July 3, 2022, 05:33:44 am »
Yeah as things stand Salah, Díaz, Jota and Carvalho is a rather strong lineup of actual or prospective wide forwards. If there's a good window to get Gnabry onboard next summer I wouldn't be against it but if the front line delivers this year there's no reason to pursue that.

If Bellingham is available either through a transfer this summer or an agreement in principle (maybe a transfer now, loan back a year to get a discount) it's a lot more urgent need to press on with. The midfield is aging out at this rate with Henderson and Thiago above 31 and Fabinho turning 30 next year. Milner is obviously 36 and can't play with the same energy as before for 90 minutes. It's clear that there will be a need to bring in one or even two midfielders in the coming 12 months to successfully hand the relay pin to the next generation.
We have no natural inside right winger aside from Salah. Jota has looked useless any time he's on that side. IMO simply grouping 'wide forwards' together like there's no difference in efficacy playing right or left isn't something a title contending team should be doing. RW should be a focus, Salah or no Salah. Gnabry would be a cheap option, but IMO he's like Mane, a player you can play right which we did early days, but is going to be much more effective on the left.

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« Reply #33393 on: July 3, 2022, 05:58:45 am »
I dont think we were ever going to offer Sadio the same pay level as Mo, which is why his sale became a given as once Mo signed, you'd definitely have Sadio being disappointed with his contract offer. The other difference was the fact that Mo made it clear he would be here atleast for another year, regardless of the outcome, making it a decision between either extending him or releasing him next summer. Selling him was never genuinely considered.
Absolutely love Sadio and he's a bonafide legend, but given a choice between the two, I'd want to keep Mo too.
It's mad that so many fans think Mane has been not only as important as Mo, but some actually think he's been more important.

Salah has produced 1.5x the number of goals, and double the number of assists on a per season basis compared to Mane in his Liverpool career just in the EPL.

Salah
MP   G    A
36   32   10
38   22   8
34   19   10
37   22   5
35   23   13
Avg per season   23.6 goals   9.2 assists

Mane
MP   G    A
27   13   5
29   10   7
36   22   1
35   18   7
35   11   7
34   16   2
Avg per season   15.4 goals   4.8 assists

Just in the EPL, Salah has been good for 32.8 goal contributions per season, vs 20.2 for Mane. That's a pretty large difference. Mane most certainly provides a level of defensive workrate that is levels above Mo, but workrate is a hell of a lot easier to come across than consistent high volume goal contribution. It's a lot easier to attempt to cover a loss of around 20 goal contributions each season than around 33.

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« Reply #33394 on: July 3, 2022, 06:14:51 am »
^^^ These statistics are a bit out of context though. For example, Salah was brilliant the first half of last season, but was a different player after AFCON. Mane was the one pulling us through in the 2nd half. Plus, their styles were very different. Mane in a beast mode was unstoppable; he would take on a defender, he would press, he would lose a ball and get back in there to recover it. So the comparison is not quite fair, because his finishing leaves a lot to be desired.

I actually think that Mane's work rate has been replaced with Lucho's almost one to one. We have a similar beast in the same position, albeit with a slightly different style. But Salah staying was always critical to our future, be it for one or two years; two years would have been ideal, one a bit too short, but not bad, three... I don't know.
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« Reply #33395 on: July 3, 2022, 06:33:38 am »
We have no natural inside right winger aside from Salah. Jota has looked useless any time he's on that side. IMO simply grouping 'wide forwards' together like there's no difference in efficacy playing right or left isn't something a title contending team should be doing. RW should be a focus, Salah or no Salah. Gnabry would be a cheap option, but IMO he's like Mane, a player you can play right which we did early days, but is going to be much more effective on the left.

Looks like he's played there 3 times last season and scored twice,not bad.

But yeah right side does look lighter than left but still we have a number of players who can play there to a good enough standard imo if needed (Diaz,Jota even Gordon maybe) and now Salah has signed and with his excellent injury record i think we have other priorities first.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - END GAME
« Reply #33396 on: July 3, 2022, 07:31:26 am »
We have no natural inside right winger aside from Salah. Jota has looked useless any time he's on that side. IMO simply grouping 'wide forwards' together like there's no difference in efficacy playing right or left isn't something a title contending team should be doing. RW should be a focus, Salah or no Salah. Gnabry would be a cheap option, but IMO he's like Mane, a player you can play right which we did early days, but is going to be much more effective on the left.

A left footed forward that can play on the right would be ideal but it isn't essential that we get one this summer and people shouldn't throw a tantrum if we don't get one.

For me a CM is more of a priority especially if we end up selling one this window. If we sign one more player and it happens to be a CM then absolutely no one should complain. Anyone who complains after that about the lack of signing another forward, are just being  a bunch of spoilt brats who revel in throwing their toys out of the pram. I've already seen one clown on Twitter saying we need to sign two more CM's and a forward this summer. Fans are just never happy.  ::)

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« Reply #33397 on: July 3, 2022, 07:35:07 am »
We have no natural inside right winger aside from Salah. Jota has looked useless any time he's on that side. IMO simply grouping 'wide forwards' together like there's no difference in efficacy playing right or left isn't something a title contending team should be doing. RW should be a focus, Salah or no Salah. Gnabry would be a cheap option, but IMO he's like Mane, a player you can play right which we did early days, but is going to be much more effective on the left.

Gnabry wouldnt be a cheap option.

Also we have to ensure we dont overdo it. We have 5 top forwards and a real prospect in Carvalho so balance and numbers is currently right.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - END GAME
« Reply #33398 on: July 3, 2022, 07:37:29 am »
Gnabry wouldnt be a cheap option.

Also we have to ensure we dont overdo it. We have 5 top forwards and a real prospect in Carvalho so balance and numbers is currently right.
I doubt that he/Diaz would accept not being in our first 11.

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« Reply #33399 on: July 3, 2022, 07:47:01 am »
I doubt that he/Diaz would accept not being in our first 11.

I think if we had no Salah and Gnabry was one of the 5 attackers then its possible to rotate but with Salah you have no choice but to play him in 99% of your league and meaningful CL games (rightly so), which means effectively 4 top players are vying for 2 positions.

That is of course also doable but when four of those are some of the best attackers in Europe (Gnabry, Jota, Nunez and Diaz) then its tough.

Even if we lose Bobby next summer there is a chance we dont replace him simply because we will want Carvalho to kick on a level if thats who we have earmarked as an attacker.