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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #35520 on: August 9, 2022, 12:03:12 pm »
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #35521 on: August 9, 2022, 12:26:09 pm »
I don't understand the obsession with Jude. De Jong is more proven plays arguably in a more competitive league and we have big dutch personality like VVD who can convince him to come here.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #35522 on: August 9, 2022, 12:35:51 pm »
I don't understand the obsession with Jude. De Jong is more proven plays arguably in a more competitive league and we have big dutch personality like VVD who can convince him to come here.

De Jong is on millions more a year than Van Dijk. It's the kind of signing that would ruin the wage structure of the club (a consideration that almost lost us Mo).
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #35523 on: August 9, 2022, 12:38:17 pm »
A few on here have mentioned De Jong over the past couple of days. I'd have been fine with United dropping 80 odd million on him. I really don't think he's kicked on since leaving the inferior Dutch league. As we all know it's not Barca's greatest ever side, but I think it'd be really hard to justify spending big on him. Maybe Klopp could get a better tune out of him but I'd steer clear. Huge wages too.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #35524 on: August 9, 2022, 12:41:39 pm »
De Jong is on the similar deal to what we offer Mo now. It's a none starter.

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« Reply #35525 on: August 9, 2022, 12:49:34 pm »
A few on here have mentioned De Jong over the past couple of days. I'd have been fine with United dropping 80 odd million on him. I really don't think he's kicked on since leaving the inferior Dutch league. As we all know it's not Barca's greatest ever side, but I think it'd be really hard to justify spending big on him. Maybe Klopp could get a better tune out of him but I'd steer clear. Huge wages too.

Not exactly been great for them but Barca such a basket case. You would expect someone like Xavi would want to build a team around him if he's that good a midfielder, although Barca need to sort their wage bill out.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #35526 on: August 9, 2022, 01:21:17 pm »
If City are losing Bernardo then they are going to go all in for Jude and put a crazy bid.

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« Reply #35527 on: August 9, 2022, 01:34:57 pm »
If City are losing Bernardo then they are going to go all in for Jude and put a crazy bid.

And Dortmund will turn it down. They don't need to sell, and his value won't be affected over the next 12 months provided he stays injury free.
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« Reply #35528 on: August 9, 2022, 01:52:51 pm »
And Dortmund will turn it down. They don't need to sell, and his value won't be affected over the next 12 months provided he stays injury free.

His value will only increase which means he'd be more easily attainable now than in 12 months time when there will be more clubs interested in him and his value increased, especially if he has a good world cup and/or season with Dortmund.

Dortmund would sell this year if the fee was right. I've said for months now I'd offer 60m and Naby and see what they say.

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« Reply #35529 on: August 9, 2022, 01:54:19 pm »
And Dortmund will turn it down. They don't need to sell, and his value won't be affected over the next 12 months provided he stays injury free.

Depends how much they offer and when, If the offer is north of a 100m they will accept and reinvest in 2-3 players but the later it goes into the transfer window the less chance of that happening.

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« Reply #35530 on: August 9, 2022, 01:55:07 pm »
And Dortmund will turn it down. They don't need to sell, and his value won't be affected over the next 12 months provided he stays injury free.

If Man City put £100m on the table I'd be absolutely astonished if Dortmund said no. It's simply not the way they operate. They usually take the huge money when it's there and move on.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #35531 on: August 9, 2022, 01:57:42 pm »
I don't understand the obsession with Jude. De Jong is more proven plays arguably in a more competitive league and we have big dutch personality like VVD who can convince him to come here.
De Jong would cost 75m to buy and is still owed £17m in wages by Barca (which they would want the buying club to take one).

The less LFC have to do with a basket case like Barca, the better.
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« Reply #35532 on: August 9, 2022, 01:58:18 pm »
His value will only increase which means he'd be more easily attainable now than in 12 months time when there will be more clubs interested in him and his value increased, especially if he has a good world cup and/or season with Dortmund.

Dortmund would sell this year if the fee was right. I've said for months now I'd offer 60m and Naby and see what they say.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #35533 on: August 9, 2022, 02:01:46 pm »
If Man City put £100m on the table I'd be absolutely astonished if Dortmund said no. It's simply not the way they operate. They usually take the huge money when it's there and move on.

They've always set deadlines for when they will let players leave.

Plus Bellingham could always turn down the move too.
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« Reply #35534 on: August 9, 2022, 02:13:08 pm »
Plus Bellingham could always turn down the move too.

This is an alien concept for some on here it seems. Imagine a player deciding to push for a move to us over City, for example. I imagine that has never, or would ever, happen  ::)

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« Reply #35535 on: August 9, 2022, 02:24:47 pm »
They've always set deadlines for when they will let players leave.

Plus Bellingham could always turn down the move too.

Bellingham may reject but Dortmund definitely would not. They wouldn't be able to get him to the airport quick enough for £100m.

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« Reply #35536 on: August 9, 2022, 02:36:54 pm »
I don't know how long FDJ has left on his contract but Barcelona clearly need to get rid in order to register players and shore up cash etc..

I don't know the ins and outs of what is happening but would I be right in assuming Barca still owe us money for previous transfers?

With that in mind would it be outrageous to suggest they give him to us in lieu of outstanding debt, and we pay him his £17m plus a bit extra as a signing on bonus and do this to offset a huge wage, and instead put him in line with others we have at the club with achievable bonuses. I reckon we could get it done for maybe £30m if Barcelona and player are willing to listen.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #35537 on: August 9, 2022, 02:38:10 pm »
Bellingham may reject but Dortmund definitely would not. They wouldn't be able to get him to the airport quick enough for £100m.

I did think that earlier in the window, but if there isn't a deal agreed already (which is my thinking) then I'm not sure they would let him go for £100 million now considering the fees being thrown around.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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« Reply #35538 on: August 9, 2022, 02:42:03 pm »
I did think that earlier in the window, but if there isn't a deal agreed already (which is my thinking) then I'm not sure they would let him go for £100 million now considering the fees being thrown around.

The financial realities outside of England are way different though. It would still be the second highest transfer fee received in Bundesliga history and be about 31% of their turnover for a year.

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« Reply #35539 on: August 9, 2022, 02:50:14 pm »
They did (stupidly) refuse getting more money by selling Sancho and Haaland a season earlier then they did so who knows what they're thinking.

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« Reply #35540 on: August 9, 2022, 02:54:57 pm »
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« Reply #35541 on: August 9, 2022, 03:05:07 pm »
Tielemans is seemingly available, honestly think he’d be a decent buy.

In what way? He has a questionable attitude (by all accounts), poor workrate and is slow...?

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« Reply #35542 on: August 9, 2022, 03:14:24 pm »
Isn't he quite a slow healer? I seem to remember his last '6 week' injury lasting just under 3 months, but I may be wrong on that...

That was when someone tried to break his leg. Kind of a different situation.

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« Reply #35543 on: August 9, 2022, 03:14:55 pm »
In what way? He has a questionable attitude (by all accounts), poor workrate and is slow...?
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« Reply #35544 on: August 9, 2022, 03:22:13 pm »
That was when someone tried to break his leg. Kind of a different situation.

I think I was thinking of the calf injury the following season, was supposed to be a knock but he ended up missing a couple of months

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« Reply #35545 on: August 9, 2022, 03:28:57 pm »
I don't know how long FDJ has left on his contract
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« Reply #35546 on: August 9, 2022, 03:31:33 pm »
Why do we have an obsession with Bellingham?

Anything could happen with that - he goes elsewhere as can command more money or gets injured

Odd to put all your eggs in one basket
I think if Klopp had to build his perfect midfielder then Bellingham would come close. Pace, power, athleticism, seems to be tactically astute, good passer, good dribbler, good presser and as a bonus he is 19 and English. He also doesn't appear to be a dickhead. Yes, he is a bit cocky but I like that.

To be fair I think Tchouameni fits the all round template as well.

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« Reply #35547 on: August 9, 2022, 03:31:49 pm »
Tielemans' reputation has taken an absolute battering in RAWK transfer threads lately and I'm not entirely sure why.
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« Reply #35548 on: August 9, 2022, 03:32:26 pm »
Tielemans' reputation has taken an absolute battering in RAWK transfer threads lately and I'm not entirely sure why.
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« Reply #35549 on: August 9, 2022, 03:41:29 pm »

Tielemans is the definition of average. Lijnders explained our strategy clearly, if the club can't identify or afford a qauilty player then Klopp would rather wait instead of wasting money on the likes of Tielemans.

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« Reply #35550 on: August 9, 2022, 03:42:11 pm »
Speaking of Leicester midfielders, Dewsbury-Hall profiles well.

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« Reply #35551 on: August 9, 2022, 03:42:28 pm »
I reckon Nunes is already in the bag and we're making a long play for Frenkie by letting him be jostled between the craziness of Barca and United, and we swoop in for a gratefully lowering his wages player going for the cheap on the last day of the window.

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« Reply #35552 on: August 9, 2022, 03:43:18 pm »
Tielemans is the definition of average. Lijnders explained our strategy clearly, if the club can't identify or afford a qauilty player then Klopp would rather wait instead of wasting money on the likes of Tielemans.

He's far from the definition of average, but he doesn't have the athleticism for us.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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« Reply #35553 on: August 9, 2022, 03:45:07 pm »
I think I was thinking of the calf injury the following season, was supposed to be a knock but he ended up missing a couple of months

He was out for 43 days / 10 matches per Transfermarkt.

I wouldn't necessarily put anything down to him being a slow healer, but he does seem to be very prone to soft tissue injuries. But we knew that before we signed him.

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« Reply #35554 on: August 9, 2022, 03:45:48 pm »
Speaking of Leicester midfielders, Dewsbury-Hall profiles well.

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« Reply #35555 on: August 9, 2022, 03:47:58 pm »
Tielemans is the definition of a sideways step. He's not an improvement on what we already have.

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« Reply #35556 on: August 9, 2022, 03:53:32 pm »
I reckon Nunes is already in the bag and we're making a long play for Frenkie by letting him be jostled between the craziness of Barca and United, and we swoop in for a gratefully lowering his wages player going for the cheap on the last day of the window.
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« Reply #35559 on: August 9, 2022, 04:11:54 pm »
If City are losing Bernardo then they are going to go all in for Jude and put a crazy bid.

Why? They have signed Phillips