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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19200 on: July 3, 2022, 05:52:12 pm »
I genuinely don't know why this club bothers

You can give it local pride ya ya ya

There's just nothing here anymore. The hurt outweighs the love. It's shit. Look at the fans the dirty money, it's all fucked. A waste of energy.

If you could divorce this club you would. I can begrudgingly respect the alleged normal Evertonian who doesn't immediately launch fucking bile at me but that hardly outweigh the corrupt many

If I supported Everton in 2022 I'd like to think I packed it all in. What's the point? Who wants to spend their lives being saddled with shit, that very occasionally flashes into the realm of the mediocre?

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19201 on: July 3, 2022, 05:53:07 pm »
Kassam stadium? Harsh!, very harsh

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19202 on: July 3, 2022, 05:53:35 pm »
The Dock Wall is Grade 2 listed since 28 September 1999



That’s almost to the day the last time their fans saw them win at Anfield.

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19203 on: July 3, 2022, 05:55:20 pm »
I think the Kassam Stadium in Oxford is closer to what they will end up with. Much like Oxford United, the Bitters will be seeking a new home not long after they move in.

It was bad enough when Oxford United were owned by the fraud Robert Maxwell and his daughter Ghislaine, the procuress but bringing Everton into the discussion?

A bridge too far.

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19204 on: July 3, 2022, 07:38:23 pm »
Kassam stadium? Harsh!, very harsh

(And it’s getting replaced)

Well, they are both located next to a sewer.
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19205 on: July 3, 2022, 11:52:42 pm »
So Jesse Lingard see Everton as a 'last resort'


That's if his transfer to Accrington Stanley falls though then.


Look at how far they have fallen, even United rejects won't touch them, that was never a problem even when they were 'poor'
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19206 on: July 4, 2022, 12:13:43 am »
So Jesse Lingard see Everton as a 'last resort'


That's if his transfer to Accrington Stanley falls though then.


Look at how far they have fallen, even United rejects won't touch them, that was never a problem even when they were 'poor'
It comes to something when even washed up Mancs snub their usual retirement home.
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19207 on: July 4, 2022, 12:15:26 am »
Someone needs to go spray 'Beanz in!' on the Bullens. He'll be an Ev player by lunchtime.
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19208 on: July 4, 2022, 12:18:55 am »
Someone needs to go spray 'Beanz in!' on the Bullens. He'll be an Ev player by lunchtime.
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19209 on: July 4, 2022, 02:49:49 am »
They have a fixed price for certain elements of the build but there’s plenty of things they can’t fix the cost of and anyone in the building trade or who’s had work done will tell you that far less complex builds always have minor issues that end up costing extra.

We’re probably talking £650m conservatively. Realistically? £800m.

I think they will do bits here and there but yes Goodison will be their home for some while longer. They absolutely need further investment which is why Moshiri has been grubbing around with anyone who’ll entertain him, regardless of how tenuous their finances are. This Kenyon consortium clearly didn’t have the heft to get it done, the club would’ve been in the exact same situation pretty much. Perhaps the stadium would have got done quicker.

They can’t pass on the costs of any issues to Everton, apparently, under a fixed price contract (unless there some clause around unforeseen issues?). But they would price in the risk of such issues, of course, and if there are none then they’ve effectively over charged Everton but get to keep the surplus. However, from what I’ve read, these fixed price contracts are still adjusted for inflation.  It would just be risking bankruptcy agreeing to fix materials prices with no fluctuations for inflation.

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19210 on: July 4, 2022, 10:08:55 am »
Can't get my head around signing that Tarkovski lad for 4 years on 80k a week.

He's 29, nearly 30.

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19211 on: July 4, 2022, 10:56:52 am »
Can't get my head around signing that Tarkovski lad for 4 years on 80k a week.

He's 29, nearly 30.



In fairness, that is 2-3 decent years from a good defender, it's the only way they could nail down a free contract like that.
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19212 on: July 4, 2022, 11:11:46 am »
They can’t pass on the costs of any issues to Everton, apparently, under a fixed price contract

They haven't signed a fixed price contract. This all stemmed from an email Baxendale sent to fans which mentioned them having clarity of costs. From this their fans have run with it being a fixed price, which has then become truth somehow.


"I am delighted to tell you that we have finalised and signed a contract with our construction partners, Laing O'Rourke, which gives us greater certainty as to the costs of the remaining stages of our stadium project. The agreement ensures the work on bringing our new home to reality will continue apace.

To explain the significance, this agreement means we have renewed clarity over the costs for the remaining stages of the project - and that clarity is in line with our budget and cost planning. In short - we have certainty in these uncertain times.

Our accounts, released last month, revealed the profound scale of the impact the pandemic has had, and continues to have, on our Club. They also demonstrated, though, the scale of investment we have already made in our new stadium - and the unwavering commitment of our owner to finish what he has started.

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19213 on: July 4, 2022, 11:20:39 am »
It's as clear as mud
This was in Contruction News:
https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/laing-orourke-agrees-price-for-everton-stadium


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The main construction contract sees Laing O’Rourke bear the major risk for cost overruns on construction of the 52,888-capacity waterfront stadium.

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Contract price was not disclosed but overall costs have previoulsy been estimated at around £500m.


That certainly doesn't clarify that the contract was for £500m. Laing O'Rourke are hoping to go public in a couple of years. Given that and the Millennium stadium history mentioned here, you'd think they would have been hyper-cautious on signing off on anything with too much latitude for risk.

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19214 on: July 4, 2022, 11:21:45 am »
In fairness, that is 2-3 decent years from a good defender, it's the only way they could nail down a free contract like that.

I don't think he's that good to be honest. He'll fit in there though as he loves to kick people
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19215 on: July 4, 2022, 11:38:25 am »
Who the **** is Becao?

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19216 on: July 4, 2022, 11:38:27 am »
I don't think he's that good to be honest. He'll fit in there though as he loves to kick people

Michael Keane was Burnley's best defender. All they do is defend the 6 yard box and throw themselves at the ball to make blocks.

Keane still does a job when Everton do the same but is no good when asked to do anything more..Tarkowski may have a bit more about him but his PL career has just been defending deep.
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19217 on: July 4, 2022, 05:13:49 pm »
Drunken Duncan's off to bring his brand of sophisticated football to another (unnamed) club.

Big blow to them when they sack Lampard and they have to find another Club Legend who just Gets The Club to Steady the Ship in February in the middle of a relegation battle.
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19218 on: July 4, 2022, 05:26:04 pm »
Who the **** is Becao?

I don't know but apparently he's 26  :lmao

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19219 on: July 4, 2022, 06:07:35 pm »
Who's going to put the cones out now? Is Colin Pascoe still available? Ferguson will be waiting as long for a good offer.
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19220 on: July 4, 2022, 07:23:54 pm »
Red Echo latest

Everton have approached Chelsea about signing Broja.
They are also after a player from Rheims, El Bilal Toure. Red Echo calls him a perfect replacement for Richarlison.
So he’s a dirty snide diver? - harsh on the lad.
Seems like Moshi has told Frank he can spend the Richarlison money which is madness seeing as he had to sell him to clear FFP. Must have given up on Conor Gallagher.
In other news Cenk Tosun has returned. (I thought he was out of contract this summer ?)
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19221 on: July 4, 2022, 07:40:56 pm »
Red Echo latest

Everton have approached Chelsea about signing Broja.
They are also after a player from Rheims, El Bilal Toure. Red Echo calls him a perfect replacement for Richarlison.
So he’s a dirty snide diver? - harsh on the lad.
Seems like Moshi has told Frank he can spend the Richarlison money which is madness seeing as he had to sell him to clear FFP. Must have given up on Conor Gallagher.
In other news Cenk Tosun has returned. (I thought he was out of contract this summer ?)

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19222 on: July 4, 2022, 08:22:21 pm »
Big Dunc has left them to become a manager  :lmao

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19223 on: July 4, 2022, 08:47:06 pm »
Big Dunc has left them to become a manager  :lmao

Of what?

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19224 on: July 4, 2022, 08:49:09 pm »
All the badge kissing in the world don't make up for the fact that they are, frankly, not Liverpool Football Club. It's not their fault. Its just how it is.

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19226 on: July 4, 2022, 09:04:31 pm »
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« Reply #19227 on: July 4, 2022, 09:26:20 pm »
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19229 on: July 4, 2022, 09:44:43 pm »
Big Dunc has left them to become a manager  :lmao

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« Reply #19230 on: July 4, 2022, 10:18:04 pm »
Has Big Dunc finally decided to get some actual managerial experience under his belt for when Lampard is sacked?  Or did Fwank force him out perhaps?

Moshiri is like a drunk gambler. If he risks the Richarlison money and it backfires they're even more screwed then they already are.
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« Reply #19231 on: July 4, 2022, 10:20:43 pm »
if they spend that Richie money, isn't that like giving the PL the finger?

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19232 on: July 4, 2022, 10:24:00 pm »
if they spend that Richie money, isn't that like giving the PL the finger?
No.

Because the spend is amortised over the length of the contracts of the players they sign.

A £50m player signed over 5 years has a book value of £10m a year in transfer fees.

Whereas the transfer fee is recognised all at once in you “money in” pot.

Plus…on the first of July we enter a different monitoring period for finances.
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« Reply #19233 on: July 4, 2022, 10:27:01 pm »
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« Reply #19234 on: July 4, 2022, 10:27:44 pm »
Who the **** is Becao?
For 24 years I've been living next door to Becao...
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« Reply #19235 on: July 4, 2022, 10:44:01 pm »
Big Dunc has left them to become a manager  :lmao

Will probably help them. If there was a common denominator on Everton lurching from managerial disaster to managerial disaster it was him as assistant manager.

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« Reply #19236 on: July 4, 2022, 10:46:29 pm »
Big Dunc has left them to become a manager  :lmao

Of a local pub, I presume.

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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19237 on: July 4, 2022, 11:24:46 pm »
Of a local pub, I presume.
From pub team to pub manager. Nice career progression for good old Dunc.
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« Reply #19238 on: July 4, 2022, 11:25:56 pm »
It's as clear as mud
This was in Contruction News:
https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/laing-orourke-agrees-price-for-everton-stadium



That certainly doesn't clarify that the contract was for £500m. Laing O'Rourke are hoping to go public in a couple of years. Given that and the Millennium stadium history mentioned here, you'd think they would have been hyper-cautious on signing off on anything with too much latitude for risk.


It does take the financial risk away but then there is a price to pay for making the construction company bear the risk. Who do we think is smarter, Everton or Laing?
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Re: The People's Club (I was saying Boo-urns)
« Reply #19239 on: July 4, 2022, 11:29:11 pm »
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