Topic: The England Cricket Thread - 2024

[Robinred]

I’m sure it’s Stokes, and he was the slip catcher to spinners in the past (I think) but he driest seem to want to field there now. Maybe as captain wants to be nearer the bowlers and/or more wary of his fragile fingers.

Oh I agree Nick, except Stokes is the best fielder in each and every position. Just wonder who of the rest might be better all round.

Two dreadful reviews from Williamson there.

[CheshireDave]

Two dreadful reviews from Williamson there.

Really bad.

[Robinred]

There’s a higher number of ball changes than runs scored by England’s openers in these tests. Apparently Duke’s manufacturing plant had laid off lots of workers during COVID and the result is a batch of their ‘test’ quality balls going prematurely soft and/or out of shape.

[Crosby Nick]

Crazy run rate again.

Billings to come in at 7 presumably? Would he be rated as a better batsman than Foakes would you say? Never seen him in red ball cricket.

[Funky_Gibbons]

What happened to Foakes?

[Sangria]

What happened to Foakes?

Covid.

[Funky_Gibbons]

Covid.

👍🏻

Shame, he was doing well.

[TepidT2O]

Only 113 more needed at stumps… England have knocked these runs off so quickly it makes the weather tomorrow look less of an issue

Still a lot of work to do, but another incredible session.

[voodoo ray]

That bracewell has had a bit of tap. Going at over 6!

[Skeeve]

There’s a higher number of ball changes than runs scored by England’s openers in these tests. Apparently Duke’s manufacturing plant had laid off lots of workers during COVID and the result is a batch of their ‘test’ quality balls going prematurely soft and/or out of shape.

This article on the bbc site (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61712345) mentions they don't have the supplies to allow newly produced ones to mature in the warehouse, makes you wonder why they didn't put some aside that followed their usual process for the home test matches, just in case. It'd only take about 40 balls to cover all the home tests this summer and even if skipping that maturing phase was without problems, ensure your priorities (the tests rather than county matches) have zero chance of being impacted.

If they are right about the lack of maturing being the issue rather than possible chemical changes in another part of the process, at least this issue should be solved by next summer with them having all winter to build up some matured stock.

[voodoo ray]

This article on the bbc site (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61712345) mentions they don't have the supplies to allow newly produced ones to mature in the warehouse, makes you wonder why they didn't put some aside that followed their usual process for the home test matches, just in case. It'd only take about 40 balls to cover all the home tests this summer and even if skipping that maturing phase was without problems, ensure your priorities (the tests rather than county matches) have zero chance of being impacted.

If they are right about the lack of maturing being the issue rather than possible chemical changes in another part of the process, at least this issue should be solved by next summer with them having all winter to build up some matured stock.

can't help but imaging some penny pinching is probably partially responsible in some way.


anyway there's something very english cricket about letting people in for free to watch it rain.

[Elzar]

Raining - delayed start. The womens match is being shown on sky sports at the moment!

[voodoo ray]

wow eoin's binning it.

as good a time as any I guess, buttler is the obvious replacement as skipper.

[Elzar]

wow eoin's binning it.

as good a time as any I guess, buttler is the obvious replacement as skipper.

Think he will know from his form and the talent England have, that they can move on without him. A very unselfish call.

[Skeeve]

Think he will know from his form and the talent England have, that they can move on without him. A very unselfish call.

Very unselfish indeed, while the side is strong he could have easily kept his place based on his abilities as captain while hoping to regain his form, but has chosen to bow out gracefully instead.

[Sangria]

Very unselfish indeed, while the side is strong he could have easily kept his place based on his abilities as captain while hoping to regain his form, but has chosen to bow out gracefully instead.

Reminds me of Nasser. Going by past history, he could easily justify a place as captain and even as a pure batsman. But the moment he recognised someone better was available and that England could do without him, he stepped down (first as captain to allow Vaughan to take over, and then as batsman when Strauss had proved himself).

[Yosser0_0]

Starting at High Noon.

I'm guessing the boundaries won't be as easy to come by with the wet outfield. Remarkable scoring rate yet again yesterday.

[Skeeve]

Starting at High Noon.

I'm guessing the boundaries won't be as easy to come by with the wet outfield. Remarkable scoring rate yet again yesterday.

Just means they will have to hit sixes instead then the outfield won't be an issue for them. 

[Wild Romany Boy]

wow eoin's binning it.

as good a time as any I guess, buttler is the obvious replacement as skipper.

He's been an excellent captain and the team have done well with him. Good lad.

[Yosser0_0]

Just means they will have to hit sixes instead then the outfield won't be an issue for them. 

I'm sure it won't be straight forward, this is England we are talking about after all so there could still be some drama either way.

[Crosby Nick]

Eoin Morgan has been incredible for English cricket. When he first came into the side he seemed a breath of fresh air, playing a different game to his team mates at that time. As a captain he’s been absolutely exceptional. Just changed the whole mindset of the team and truly led by example.

His form has dipped and there are a ton of strong batsmen waiting in the wings. He could probably have justified his place as captain for a while longer but making that big call for the good of the team is again, another measure of the man.

He know Test cricket is the pinnacle, and those Ashes series wins, especially 2005 were unforgettable but to get England from ODI no hopers to World Champions and setting so many records along the way has been great fun to watch. That 2019 final was just incredible sporting drama that has probably gone into my top 3 non LFC sporting memories of all time.

Thanks Eoin. Enjoy your retirement.

[IgorBobbins]

Eoin Morgan has been incredible for English cricket. When he first came into the side he seemed a breath of fresh air, playing a different game to his team mates at that time. As a captain he’s been absolutely exceptional. Just changed the whole mindset of the team and truly led by example.

His form has dipped and there are a ton of strong batsmen waiting in the wings. He could probably have justified his place as captain for a while longer but making that big call for the good of the team is again, another measure of the man.

He know Test cricket is the pinnacle, and those Ashes series wins, especially 2005 were unforgettable but to get England from ODI no hopers to World Champions and setting so many records along the way has been great fun to watch. That 2019 final was just incredible sporting drama that has probably gone into my top 3 non LFC sporting memories of all time.

Thanks Eoin. Enjoy your retirement.

Well said, Nick.  He’s been brilliant.

Interested to hear your 2 remaining non LFC sporting memories  .  Ashes win in 2005?  Stokes at Headingly 2019?  And those are just the cricket ones!

[voodoo ray]

somewhat weird how the women's team isn't sponsored by "IG" as well. you'd think the ecb would sell the sponsorships as a bulk thing for all the representative teams.

[PaulF]

somewhat weird how the women's team isn't sponsored by "IG" as well. you'd think the ecb would sell the sponsorships as a bulk thing for all the representative teams.

Women are too emotional after losing a wicket , not a good look for a major sponsor.

[voodoo ray]

Women are too emotional after losing a wicket , not a good look for a major sponsor.

are you a member of the icc?

[PaulF]

are you a member of the icc?

[Crosby Nick]

Well said, Nick.  He’s been brilliant.

Interested to hear your 2 remaining non LFC sporting memories  .  Ashes win in 2005?  Stokes at Headingly 2019?  And those are just the cricket ones!

No idea actually, was just a figure of speech!

Would probably have Andy Murray winning Wimbledon in there. Something I thought I’d never see.

Probably plump for some Olympic memory as well but too many to choose from these days.

[gerrardisgod]

No idea actually, was just a figure of speech!

Would probably have Andy Murray winning Wimbledon in there. Something I thought I’d never see.

Probably plump for some Olympic memory as well but too many to choose from these days.

Diana Ross’ penalty?

Great start!

[Yosser0_0]

Bairstow been moved up the order?

[Yosser0_0]

17 off the over, so 94 needed but bloody hell that ball is moving all over the place!

[Crosby Nick]

Diana Ross’ penalty?

Great start!

Dwayne Leverock’s catch?

[Ray K]

Dwayne Leverock’s catch?

The Aussie speed skater winning gold.

[Crosby Nick]

The Aussie speed skater winning gold.

Had he been from any other nation on earth I might have considered it. But it’s just not enjoyable seeing an Aussie win a gold medal (maybe with the exception of Cathy Freeman).

[PaulF]

Dwayne Leverock’s catch?

There must be a thread already on Rawk for this surely?
The world cup super over, not that long ago must be one for me.

[PaulF]

Had he been from any other nation on earth I might have considered it. But it’s just not enjoyable seeing an Aussie win a gold medal (maybe with the exception of Cathy Freeman).

Why Cathy exempted?  But yes, a long list of events where the Aussies lose are 'great' sporting moments.

[Elzar]

Bairstow been moved up the order?

No, he has come in after Root all series.

[Crosby Nick]

There must be a thread already on Rawk for this surely?
The world cup super over, not that long ago must be one for me.

I’d start one but it would no doubt be dominated by the posters saying “cricket is shite”, “rugby is shite” etc etc.

The stress of that Suoer over (and the last few overs of the England chase) were amongst the most stressful things I’ve ever seen! My wife and mother in law were in another room watching an epic Wimbledon final which I’d normally be gripped by but don’t think I’ve ever seen anything of it!

[Sangria]

No idea actually, was just a figure of speech!

Would probably have Andy Murray winning Wimbledon in there. Something I thought I’d never see.

Probably plump for some Olympic memory as well but too many to choose from these days.

Ajit Agarkar achieving Olympic glory in Australia in 2000 (5 ducks in a row on that tour, including 6 dismissals in 7 deliveries).

[Crosby Nick]

Why Cathy exempted?  But yes, a long list of events where the Aussies lose are 'great' sporting moments.

Dunno, seemed like a pretty amazing moment for her. Winning Good in a home games with all that pressure and expectation.

[PaulF]

I’d start one but it would no doubt be dominated by the posters saying “cricket is shite”, “rugby is shite” etc etc.

Fair point.  Admittedly rugby is shite , but the Johnny Wilkinson winner was something special.