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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2920 on: July 21, 2019, 12:46:02 am »
Its reported that he is training separately from the rest of the squad in Boston tonight. Hope its nothing serious; I'm looking forward to him being influential and successful at the start of this season.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2921 on: July 21, 2019, 12:46:48 am »
Its reported that he is training separately from the rest of the squad in Boston tonight. Hope its nothing serious; I'm looking forward to him being influential and successful at the start of this season.


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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2922 on: July 21, 2019, 12:51:21 am »
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/oxlade-chamberlain-liverpool-training-news-16620836

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was absent from the Liverpool squad that trained at Fenway Park on Saturday.

But there is no suggestion the midfielder has suffered any sort of injury setback.

Oxlade-Chamberlain was instead following his own specialist training programme having played for an hour in Friday’s 3-2 defeat against Borussia Dortmund in Notre Dame.

It was the longest the 25-year-old has featured since making his return after being sidelined for a year with a serious knee injury.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2923 on: July 21, 2019, 12:54:06 am »
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/oxlade-chamberlain-liverpool-training-news-16620836

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was absent from the Liverpool squad that trained at Fenway Park on Saturday.

But there is no suggestion the midfielder has suffered any sort of injury setback.

Oxlade-Chamberlain was instead following his own specialist training programme having played for an hour in Friday’s 3-2 defeat against Borussia Dortmund in Notre Dame.

It was the longest the 25-year-old has featured since making his return after being sidelined for a year with a serious knee injury.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2924 on: July 21, 2019, 01:02:15 am »
Will be like a new signing no? Who knows if he had played last season, we might have won the league.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2925 on: July 21, 2019, 01:04:45 am »
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/oxlade-chamberlain-liverpool-training-news-16620836

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was absent from the Liverpool squad that trained at Fenway Park on Saturday.

But there is no suggestion the midfielder has suffered any sort of injury setback.

Oxlade-Chamberlain was instead following his own specialist training programme having played for an hour in Friday’s 3-2 defeat against Borussia Dortmund in Notre Dame.

It was the longest the 25-year-old has featured since making his return after being sidelined for a year with a serious knee injury.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2926 on: July 21, 2019, 05:05:43 am »
I would think 60 mins in a reasonably competitive match would be a milestone for the Ox. The medical device might have suggested a non intense follow up session as a routine procedure. Hopefully that is the case and nothing to worry about.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2927 on: July 21, 2019, 03:25:43 pm »
Just watched the highlights... incredibly encouraging to see how sharp he is.
Now there is a slight note of caution because he might be closer to 100% as he's effectively had months of pre season compared to other players on the pitch but he really looked like the same player
The big scary elephant in the room is how he holds up over time

This was always a two step thing... first step can he get back to being the same player, second step can his body hold up to playing top level football consistently which we'll only know by him doing it!
Fingers crossed because he's the best attacking midfielder in the squad at his best and makes a difference to us

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« Reply #2928 on: July 21, 2019, 04:13:08 pm »
Just watched the highlights... incredibly encouraging to see how sharp he is.
Now there is a slight note of caution because he might be closer to 100% as he's effectively had months of pre season compared to other players on the pitch but he really looked like the same player
The big scary elephant in the room is how he holds up over time

This was always a two step thing... first step can he get back to being the same player, second step can his body hold up to playing top level football consistently which we'll only know by him doing it!
Fingers crossed because he's the best attacking midfielder in the squad at his best and makes a difference to us

Oddly - I think he's still a touch "bulky" - but then he's always had a physique that looks more like a rugby/american football player than a football player.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2929 on: July 21, 2019, 04:26:34 pm »
Oddly - I think he's still a touch "bulky" - but then he's always had a physique that looks more like a rugby/american football player than a football player.
Didn't he start off as a rugger bugger?

Looked very good v Dortmund: sharp, twists and turns, good vision and a great burst of pace on one occasion
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2930 on: July 21, 2019, 05:05:53 pm »
Just watched the highlights... incredibly encouraging to see how sharp he is.
Now there is a slight note of caution because he might be closer to 100% as he's effectively had months of pre season compared to other players on the pitch but he really looked like the same player
The big scary elephant in the room is how he holds up over time

This was always a two step thing... first step can he get back to being the same player, second step can his body hold up to playing top level football consistently which we'll only know by him doing it!
Fingers crossed because he's the best attacking midfielder in the squad at his best and makes a difference to us
I’m interested in how his knee holds up under pre season training.

Often they swell and get painful after use. When he was getting back to fitness he and Klopp were both keen to say that there was no reaction from the knee.

 Now, to a layman like me this is a great sign and I wonder if this is still the case?  I’ve seen players who’ve had acl repairs hold ice packs to they’re knees after playing.

Would be interested to know if this is the case here too.

Obviously this is all my uneducated drivel and Welshred would be able to give an informed view
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2931 on: July 21, 2019, 05:07:02 pm »
Oddly - I think he's still a touch "bulky" - but then he's always had a physique that looks more like a rugby/american football player than a football player.

I thought that when I watched the Dortmund highlights. He had slimmed down a lot by February of his first season with us, but seems to have bulked up again since the injury.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2932 on: July 21, 2019, 05:20:36 pm »
Oddly - I think he's still a touch "bulky" - but then he's always had a physique that looks more like a rugby/american football player than a football player.

Makes me wonder if that's not what the club has told him to do,Jurgen told Gomez to lose some muscle didn't he,some people arre better with the bulk due to their frame whilst others like Joe not so much.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2933 on: July 21, 2019, 06:21:02 pm »
Makes me wonder if that's not what the club has told him to do,Jurgen told Gomez to lose some muscle didn't he,some people arre better with the bulk due to their frame whilst others like Joe not so much.

I think AOC is naturally chunky so losing muscle mass probably isn't ideal.

Mind you after 3/4 hour in the gym and I'm fucked so what do I know.

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« Reply #2934 on: July 21, 2019, 06:31:06 pm »
Yeah was great to see his speed on the ball. Doesn’t look like he’s lost any pace which is amazing.

A testament to how hard he worked in his rehab. The surgery obviously must have been good too, but he’s worked his socks off to get back in the best shape possible. Sounds like he helped Brewster too.
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« Reply #2935 on: July 21, 2019, 06:33:51 pm »
A testament to how hard he worked in his rehab. The surgery obviously must have been good too, but he’s worked his socks off to get back in the best shape possible. Sounds like he helped Brewster too.
Although he says it was the other way round....

The lad is such a team player, he’s a credit to any side
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« Reply #2936 on: July 21, 2019, 07:14:59 pm »
Although he says it was the other way round....

The lad is such a team player, he’s a credit to any side

Eg. the post-match interview where the reporter asked Coutinho about an upcoming move to Barcelona, and Ox stepped in and rebuked the reporter. Everyone knew what was happening with Barcelona, but Coutinho was still a Liverpool player and Ox stood up for him. Fantastic.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2937 on: July 21, 2019, 07:22:56 pm »
Didn't he start off as a rugger bugger?

Looked very good v Dortmund: sharp, twists and turns, good vision and a great burst of pace on one occasion

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2938 on: July 21, 2019, 08:25:37 pm »
A testament to how hard he worked in his rehab. The surgery obviously must have been good too, but he’s worked his socks off to get back in the best shape possible. Sounds like he helped Brewster too.

An orthopaedic consultant will never admit this but surgery is only as good as the rehab that follows it.


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« Reply #2939 on: July 21, 2019, 08:36:29 pm »
An orthopaedic consultant will never admit this but surgery is only as good as the rehab that follows it.



In this case the rehab seems to world class

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2940 on: July 21, 2019, 08:38:09 pm »
An orthopaedic consultant will never admit this but surgery is only as good as the rehab that follows it.


What should we look for to judge his recovery.

Is there anything we could look out for??
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« Reply #2941 on: July 21, 2019, 08:42:05 pm »
What should we look for to judge his recovery.

Is there anything we could look out for??

Has his leg fallen off.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2942 on: July 21, 2019, 08:42:18 pm »
What should we look for to judge his recovery.

Is there anything we could look out for??

Whether re-ruptures? ;) there's nothing you'll be able to see now to judge his recovery, the only differences you'll be able to see will be on data the club gather during each training session and match.

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« Reply #2944 on: July 22, 2019, 08:07:06 am »
Must have gone to a private school.
Pretty sure he did.
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« Reply #2945 on: July 22, 2019, 10:38:39 am »
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« Reply #2946 on: July 22, 2019, 10:42:18 am »
From what I've seen of him so far this pre-season, he doesn't look like he's lost any agility and there's still a nice turn of pace to his game.  Really positive signs that the surgery was successful and he's every chance of getting back to the level he was before the injury.
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« Reply #2947 on: July 22, 2019, 10:44:42 am »
From what I've seen of him so far this pre-season, he doesn't look like he's lost any agility and there's still a nice turn of pace to his game.  Really positive signs that the surgery was successful and he's every chance of getting back to the level he was before the injury.

He's going to be brilliant next season, probably be one of our most important players.

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« Reply #2948 on: July 22, 2019, 11:20:26 am »
From what I've seen of him so far this pre-season, he doesn't look like he's lost any agility and there's still a nice turn of pace to his game.  Really positive signs that the surgery was successful and he's every chance of getting back to the level he was before the injury.

Really positive sign that his rehab was successful not his surgery

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« Reply #2949 on: July 22, 2019, 11:45:58 am »
Really positive sign that his rehab was successful not his surgery

Don't you come in here with with your actual knowledge of how this stuff works.
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« Reply #2950 on: July 22, 2019, 11:58:15 am »
Really positive sign that his rehab was successful not his surgery

Do you think his playing a significant part (minutes wise) in both games in such quick succession, and training away from the group programme on Saturday, was likely a deliberate decision to test his knee and how it swells/recovers with much less time between games than previously in his rehab?

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« Reply #2951 on: July 22, 2019, 12:28:02 pm »
Definitely deliberate but not to see how his knee copes but more that it's just a sensible loading programme for someone who has spent so much time out of the game recently. His knee will be fine.

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« Reply #2952 on: July 22, 2019, 01:08:53 pm »
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« Reply #2953 on: July 22, 2019, 01:21:30 pm »
Definitely deliberate but not to see how his knee copes but more that it's just a sensible loading programme for someone who has spent so much time out of the game recently. His knee will be fine.

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« Reply #2954 on: July 22, 2019, 01:22:49 pm »
He's got a better medical team looking after him than Steve Austin.  His minutes will be superbly managed, and we have plenty of able midfielder. Klopp must be loving the opportunities he has to mix it up.  Our opponents might as well pull names out of a hat to figure out what they'll be lining up against!
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« Reply #2955 on: July 22, 2019, 11:34:53 pm »
He's got a better medical team looking after him than Steve Austin.  His minutes will be superbly managed, and we have plenty of able midfielder. Klopp must be loving the opportunities he has to mix it up.  Our opponents might as well pull names out of a hat to figure out what they'll be lining up against!

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« Reply #2956 on: July 23, 2019, 09:31:55 am »
Definitely deliberate but not to see how his knee copes but more that it's just a sensible loading programme for someone who has spent so much time out of the game recently. His knee will be fine.
Seems to be a very different approach just in the time I've been on this board. I recall around 08-10 they were injecting steroids(?) to drag a half-fit Gerrard onto the pitch. Is this a general improvement in sports medicine over the period, or were we ignoring best practice back then?

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« Reply #2957 on: August 5, 2019, 08:12:48 am »
He had one long sprint last night that was lightning quick.  Great to see him really stretch out again.

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« Reply #2958 on: August 17, 2019, 04:59:44 pm »
Almost 90 minutes in the books, thought he did well especially when we choked them out at the start of the second.
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« Reply #2959 on: August 17, 2019, 05:00:25 pm »
Looked sharper again second half
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