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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105080 on: September 5, 2022, 06:47:03 pm »
Didn't know where to put this so thought the youth thread will do. Bobby Duncan and his former agent Saif Rubie are arguing over who's to blame for fucking up his Liverpool career. Rubie was on the radio earlier stating he told Duncan to stay with us. Bobby has posted on twitter refuting this saying he had no say in the matter. Now I don't think Duncan is completely blameless in this, but one was a young adult, the other was a fully grown man. It just goes to show that you need the right people around you to succeed in any walk of life and vultures like Rubie need getting shot of.


Bobby is to blame for Bobby moving,he also has a family member who he can turn to for advice.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105081 on: September 5, 2022, 06:53:32 pm »
Didn't know where to put this so thought the youth thread will do. Bobby Duncan and his former agent Saif Rubie are arguing over who's to blame for fucking up his Liverpool career. Rubie was on the radio earlier stating he told Duncan to stay with us. Bobby has posted on twitter refuting this saying he had no say in the matter. Now I don't think Duncan is completely blameless in this, but one was a young adult, the other was a fully grown man. It just goes to show that you need the right people around you to succeed in any walk of life and vultures like Rubie need getting shot of.


All very predictable to be honest but the truth is he wasn't good enough anyway. The Fiorentina move was ridiculous, he went there to play in their first team at 18 which was delusional. I don't think he could even get in their reserves. Then he went to Derby who barely had any senior players (which gave loads of chances to young players) and he couldn't get a look in with Rooney unhappy with his attitude.

He must be 21 now and barely has a minute of first team football. If he'd stayed here he'd have got games in 19/20 (Villa and Shrewsbury in the cup for starters).

Similar to Adam Morgan. Local lad scores a few goals for the reserves, gets hyped up and thinks he's the new Robbie Fowler and then struggles to deal with the inevtiable setback.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105082 on: September 5, 2022, 11:46:44 pm »
:o

Or you know....Musialowski isn't particularly good?

Heís good enough to be in the u19 CL squad, so itís either injuries or politics.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105083 on: September 6, 2022, 04:30:45 am »
Heís good enough to be in the u19 CL squad, so itís either injuries or politics.

In your opinion. Perhaps he isn't in the eyes of the coaches and the academy director though.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105084 on: September 6, 2022, 09:11:44 am »
Heís good enough to be in the u19 CL squad, so itís either injuries or politics.

He's barely played for us at any level since October last year. It doesn't appear to be some crazy decision, he just doesn't seem to have kicked on at all.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105085 on: September 6, 2022, 09:32:39 am »
As far as I'm aware there can only be 5 2003 born player in the youth squad side so some were going to miss out. Davies, Quansah, Woltman, Corness and Blair seem to be the ones picked. Going from being with the first team for a period in the summer to not in this is a bit odd, but with Woltman going he may get added in anyway.

I think he had injury issues which is why he missed a bit of last season as well

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105086 on: September 6, 2022, 12:54:24 pm »
In your opinion. Perhaps he isn't in the eyes of the coaches and the academy director though.

It was stated on the previous page that this list is effectively a list for this tie only.  So there is a risk of getting carried awayÖ.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105087 on: September 7, 2022, 08:59:42 am »
Nice little compilation on Harvey Blair here.

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Looks like the kind of player we could promote from the youth team, he's quick, direct and can finish.  Good size too, got what's needed for a Klopp team.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105088 on: September 7, 2022, 09:05:15 am »
In your opinion. Perhaps he isn't in the eyes of the coaches and the academy director though.

Which would be strange has heís had better performances than most attackers in our youth team in the last two years.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105089 on: September 7, 2022, 09:08:26 am »
Which would be strange has heís had better performances than most attackers in our youth team in the last two years.

He's flattered to deceive though.  I really wanted him to be amazing because he's genuinely two-footed and an excellent dribbler.  But his performances have tailed off somewhat, and if you watch him in youth games, there's a real lack of intensity to his game.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105090 on: September 7, 2022, 09:14:44 am »
He's flattered to deceive though.  I really wanted him to be amazing because he's genuinely two-footed and an excellent dribbler.  But his performances have tailed off somewhat, and if you watch him in youth games, there's a real lack of intensity to his game.

He has tailed off but him and Gordon were already the better forwards in the u18s, the likes of Blair and Frauendorf havenít been much better and Musialowski has shown a higher ceiling potentially....

I think itís injuries or politics in play like I said, he may not be good enough for our first team but he is certainly good enough to play with his peers and sort of stand out.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105091 on: September 7, 2022, 09:18:28 am »
He has tailed off but him and Gordon were already the better forwards in the u18s, the likes of Blair and Frauendorf havenít been much better and Musialowski has shown a higher ceiling potentially....

I think itís injuries or politics in play like I said, he may not be good enough for our first team but he is certainly good enough to play with his peers and sort of stand out.

I dunno, I'm not convinced, and like I said, I really wanted him to succeed because he looked potentially excellent.  But if the desire and determination isn't there, then you won't get a player out of someone.  His lack of speed and strength doesn't help either.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105092 on: September 7, 2022, 09:25:19 am »
Which would be strange has heís had better performances than most attackers in our youth team in the last two years.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mateusz-musialowski/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/570469/plus/0?saison=2021&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=

He played less than half of our games, scored four goals, was out of contention for pretty much the whole second half of the season. Hopefully its just a normal drop-off for a young player and he comes storming back this season, but it really isn't some crazy decision for him to be left out not even considering the over-age thing.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105093 on: September 7, 2022, 11:13:05 am »
Nice little compilation on Harvey Blair here.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/tvMLoYcDESE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/tvMLoYcDESE</a>

Looks like the kind of player we could promote from the youth team, he's quick, direct and can finish.  Good size too, got what's needed for a Klopp team.

Wonder if he'll have any involvement in some cup ties this season if we're playing weaker opposition. Was surprised he made his debut at Preston last year despite not having played for the u23s at that stage. Struggled to get into that game but it was a pretty poor game of football.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105096 on: September 7, 2022, 12:57:18 pm »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105098 on: September 7, 2022, 01:26:59 pm »
Corness' radar off at the minute. Wonder if the conditions are playing a part.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105099 on: September 7, 2022, 01:27:44 pm »
Doak 1-0. Too good

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105100 on: September 7, 2022, 01:29:48 pm »
Doak and Frauendorf are linking really well.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105101 on: September 7, 2022, 01:29:51 pm »
Doak, bang, 1-0. totally deserved.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105102 on: September 7, 2022, 01:31:46 pm »
Doak is just rinsing opposition players every time.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105103 on: September 7, 2022, 01:39:13 pm »
We need a youth striker knocking on the door for first team . Is Doak the prospect?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105104 on: September 7, 2022, 01:39:27 pm »
Doak is a shoe-in for the League Cup games based off of what I've seen

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105105 on: September 7, 2022, 01:41:07 pm »
We need a youth striker knocking on the door for first team . Is Doak the prospect?

Its kaide gordon. If he stays fit, he is salah's backup.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105106 on: September 7, 2022, 01:42:26 pm »
We need a youth striker knocking on the door for first team . Is Doak the prospect?

He's a winger, not a central player.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105107 on: September 7, 2022, 01:43:50 pm »

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105108 on: September 7, 2022, 01:45:50 pm »
Think that should be penalty but no way it's ever getting given. No attempt to play the ball

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105109 on: September 7, 2022, 01:46:46 pm »
Think that should be penalty but no way it's ever getting given. No attempt to play the ball

Yeah that's a pen.  More good link up between Doak and Frauendorf though.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105110 on: September 7, 2022, 01:51:25 pm »
We've been on top throughout, really should be more than 1 goal up.  Lots of space when we turn them over.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105111 on: September 7, 2022, 02:28:14 pm »
Napoli equalised through a pen but Doak just skinned a defender again to set up Cannonier to put us 2-1 up.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105112 on: September 7, 2022, 02:30:20 pm »
Okey dokey Doaky-Oakey ;)
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105113 on: September 7, 2022, 02:34:16 pm »

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105114 on: September 7, 2022, 02:40:04 pm »
Could probably do with some fresh legs to see this out

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105115 on: September 7, 2022, 02:42:19 pm »
Bit of a squeaky moment there with the Di Pasquale miss
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105116 on: September 7, 2022, 02:46:31 pm »
Frauendorf really does get everywhere.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105117 on: September 7, 2022, 02:50:42 pm »
Its kaide gordon. If he stays fit, he is salah's backup.
Gordon is a wide forward not a striker and it did look ike he could make it. However a very serious groin injury keeping him out since February is more than worrying.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105118 on: September 7, 2022, 02:55:25 pm »
Frauendorf really does get everywhere.

Got a proper engine on him, hasn't he.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #105119 on: September 7, 2022, 02:55:34 pm »
Good win. In control for pretty much all of it and stepped it up when we needed a goal.