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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104720 on: June 27, 2022, 09:57:25 pm »
Harvey Davies, the 18yr old GK, is in the England squad as well, but hasn't played yet.
Technically he isn't in the squad. He has gone there as a training goalkeeper. They have taken 21 in their "squad" when you can only have 20 players.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104721 on: June 27, 2022, 10:14:11 pm »
My app says Chambers is playing at left back.

Seem to remember a game a few months back, their age group I believe, and there was a good 4-5 Liverpool youngsters involved. Believe Cannonier may have been another one, perhaps Balagizi? Those two appear to be the only reds on this trip.
Balagizi would have been in a lot of the recent squads. Not selected here though. Same for Norris. Gordon also but he is coming back from a serious injury. Cannonier plays for the U18's when he has been selected.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104722 on: June 28, 2022, 11:14:44 am »
Found from one of the academy accounts on twitter:

Sepp van den Berg looks set to leave Liverpool on loan once again this summer but will start pre-season with Jurgen Klopp’s first team ahead of the Reds reporting back to the AXA Training Centre on July 4. #lfc [liverpool echo]

Reds bosses have been impressed by the Dutchman’s progress during his time away on loan, and he will start pre-season with the Liverpool first team as a result, as per @TheoSquiresECHO

Liverpool have already fielded enquiries from sides in the Premier League, Bundesliga and La Liga to sign the defender for the season, as per @TheoSquiresECHO


That's what we wanted to hear about Sepp. If he can get first team football in one of the best leagues in the world we've got reason to be excited by him. He's done well at Preston and while my guess would have been another Championship loan with a promotion chasing team, it sounds like there's going to be enough interest from a higher level. Think Germany would suit him for the time being but if he impresses wherever he goes I think we might have a really good player for the future.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104723 on: June 28, 2022, 05:42:03 pm »
Quansah just scored to put England 2-1 up against Italy in the Euro u-19 semi finals

Luke Chambers coming on for Bynoe-Gittens who was brilliant after coming on, reckon he'll be getting plenty time for Dortmund next season
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104724 on: June 29, 2022, 03:47:04 pm »
Found from one of the academy accounts on twitter:

Sepp van den Berg looks set to leave Liverpool on loan once again this summer but will start pre-season with Jurgen Klopp’s first team ahead of the Reds reporting back to the AXA Training Centre on July 4. #lfc [liverpool echo]

Reds bosses have been impressed by the Dutchman’s progress during his time away on loan, and he will start pre-season with the Liverpool first team as a result, as per @TheoSquiresECHO

Liverpool have already fielded enquiries from sides in the Premier League, Bundesliga and La Liga to sign the defender for the season, as per @TheoSquiresECHO


That's what we wanted to hear about Sepp. If he can get first team football in one of the best leagues in the world we've got reason to be excited by him. He's done well at Preston and while my guess would have been another Championship loan with a promotion chasing team, it sounds like there's going to be enough interest from a higher level. Think Germany would suit him for the time being but if he impresses wherever he goes I think we might have a really good player for the future.
All sounds promising.  He arrived with a lot of hype having played Eredivisie football as a teenager but looked a bit slow and lost in our system.  He apparently did really well at Preston and as a wing back so presumably he's kicked on a bit with his physical development.

Hopefully the club can extend his contract before he goes out on loan again unless the intention is just to hive a few loan fees and then let him depart.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104725 on: June 30, 2022, 08:13:13 pm »
Balagizi to Crawley on loan + new contract with LFC


Seen talk before of Owen Beck attracting interest from some foreign clubs on loan, not sure how valid that is though.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104726 on: June 30, 2022, 08:25:46 pm »
Balagizi to Crawley on loan + new contract with LFC


Seen talk before of Owen Beck attracting interest from some foreign clubs on loan, not sure how valid that is though.

How long for? Thought he could maybe get a league 1 team.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104727 on: June 30, 2022, 08:45:58 pm »
How long for? Thought he could maybe get a league 1 team.

I thought so too but looks like they're managed by Kevin Betsy who worked with balagizi with the England youth teams so I'd say that's worth the drop in leagues.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104728 on: June 30, 2022, 08:51:24 pm »
How easy is it to get a stream for Crawley games?

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104729 on: June 30, 2022, 08:58:31 pm »
How easy is it to get a stream for Crawley games?
I imagine they don't move very fast
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104730 on: June 30, 2022, 08:58:44 pm »
How easy is it to get a stream for Crawley games?

I thought lower league clubs only streamed games in lockdown.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104731 on: July 1, 2022, 09:15:45 am »
Does anyone know what time England u19s Euro final kicks off today and is it on TV anywhere?

Found it BBC sport live feed or iPlayer ko @ 7pm
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« Reply #104733 on: July 1, 2022, 09:21:16 am »
It starts at 7 and is on the iplayer/website.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104734 on: July 1, 2022, 10:59:57 am »
I think that loan could be a good move for Balagizi. If he really seizes the opportunity and performs well there I think there's just as much chance a Championship side wants to take him on loan as there is a League One side. He will have to perform well but he can definitely do it.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104735 on: July 1, 2022, 11:12:46 am »
I thought lower league clubs only streamed games in lockdown.
They've all carried on with the iFollow initiative following lockdown, so they can be found.

Crawley seems an odd move for Balagizi. Maybe now Betsy's in charge - and I'm sure the club will have done due diligence - it's a different story from the toxic situation there's been at the club for the last few years.

He should be good enough to have an effect and be starting games at that level.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104736 on: July 1, 2022, 11:45:00 am »
How long for? Thought he could maybe get a league 1 team.

To some degree I think for youth team players it's about getting the right club rather than necessarily the level (League 1 versus League 2 for example).

I think some people under estimate how hard it is for aa youth player to leave the relatively sanitised environment of the academy and go to play for a lower league team. The level of skill, experience and physicality is so much higher than anything they will have experienced playing a youth team game.

It's also a different dressing room environment. You are no longer the big fish in the small pond of an U18 or U23 top PL side. You are now a young pro, the least inexperienced in the dressing room, who needs to prove themselves to seasoned professionals. Some of which know they, and the club they play for, need to perform because their livelihoods depend on it so a certain degree. That adds a lot of pressure for a young player to quite quickly adjust to a different level and different type of football. There's no long settling in period. You need to perform straight away or you are out the team. We've seen a fair few of our prospects fall foul of this in previous seasons despite being talented players.

For Balagizi it's a big test going to Crawley. If he's likely to be Liverpool level then he needs to go there, play regularly and impact in a big way. That's harder said than done even at League 2 level for a relatively high level prospect. For me, any player still in their teens who can do that has a chance.

It's why the likes of Elliott at Blackburn is so impressive as a 17 year old. Same with Carvalho at Fulham. Players who can shine at Championship level at 17 and 18 despite their likely physical disadvantage are pretty much nailed on to be PL footballers if they keep working hard and don't get injured. The Q then becomes where about in the PL they can play regularly.

For 99% of players at PL academies, the question when they are 17-19 is whether they'll earn a living in professional football as a player at any level. Let's be honest, that's the question for the vast majority of our youth team players. It's not really 'will they make it at Liverpool?' It's more 'will they still be playing professionally in 5 years? 10years?'. As talented as he is, Balagizi is more in that 2nd category rather than the 1st at this point. A really successful spell at Crawley probably opens up the possibility of Liverpool games
in the future and potentially makes the question about whether he'll make it at Liverpool more pertinent.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104737 on: July 1, 2022, 12:12:36 pm »
Pitaluga to Macclesfield (loan)

Aren't they about 7th tier or something?
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104738 on: July 1, 2022, 12:42:43 pm »
Pitaluga to Macclesfield (loan)

Aren't they about 7th tier or something?

8th tier. Really low level that.

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« Reply #104739 on: July 1, 2022, 01:10:30 pm »
8th tier. Really low level that.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104740 on: July 1, 2022, 06:13:47 pm »
Well that's a PITA
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104741 on: July 1, 2022, 06:16:41 pm »
Quansah just scored to put England 2-1 up against Italy in the Euro u-19 semi finals

Luke Chambers coming on for Bynoe-Gittens who was brilliant after coming on, reckon he'll be getting plenty time for Dortmund next season

We should sign that lad from Dortmund on a similar deal to a Keita

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104742 on: July 1, 2022, 06:38:00 pm »
Well that's a PITA

Don't falafel it's about game experience at this time.

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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104743 on: July 1, 2022, 07:43:05 pm »
England have been really bad. Israel 1-0 up

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« Reply #104744 on: July 1, 2022, 07:43:48 pm »
They are playing against the wind which seems considerable, but they certainly need to show more composure.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104745 on: July 1, 2022, 08:11:22 pm »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104746 on: July 1, 2022, 08:12:01 pm »
Quansah assist from a corner. Heads it back across for the equaliser. Can tell this is an England side with the set piece goals!

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« Reply #104747 on: July 1, 2022, 08:13:21 pm »
Quansah assist from a corner. Heads it back across for the equaliser. Can tell this is an England side with the set piece goals!

Set-pieces are an important part of the game though.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104749 on: July 1, 2022, 08:15:53 pm »
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104750 on: July 1, 2022, 08:18:03 pm »
England need to change midfield, not keeping the ball well enough.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104751 on: July 1, 2022, 08:24:22 pm »
Israel are a very tidy team.  All comfortable with the ball and they move it so well.
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« Reply #104752 on: July 1, 2022, 08:41:25 pm »
Great run before from Quansah England looking a lot better second half.
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« Reply #104753 on: July 1, 2022, 08:44:34 pm »
Luke Chambers coming on.
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« Reply #104754 on: July 1, 2022, 08:55:17 pm »
Extra time it is.
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« Reply #104755 on: July 1, 2022, 09:20:54 pm »
England take the lead.
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« Reply #104756 on: July 1, 2022, 09:28:50 pm »
3-1 England.
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Re: Youth and Under 23 Thread
« Reply #104757 on: July 1, 2022, 09:30:37 pm »
Not their best game but all about the result. Dug deep to get it as well. Congratulations to Quansah, Chambers, Davies and the rest

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« Reply #104758 on: July 1, 2022, 10:11:13 pm »
Congratulations to our lads in the under 19's also to Ian Foster who began his career at the Academy, I think he has run the team really well and used the subs in a very impressive way, all the way through the tournament.
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« Reply #104759 on: July 1, 2022, 10:40:21 pm »
Well done lads. Some very impressive talents in that side. The young lad from Spurs, Devine looks really good I thought. Was in our academy once actually and seems highly rated at Tottenham.

Seems the England youth set ups have fared well in tournaments in recent years, winning a few and coming close in others.
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