Topic: Youth and Under 23 Thread

[Chris~]

Have seen some incredibly weak links to us signing Nwaneri from Arsenal, so will keep it out the transfer thread  .  Played for their u18s as an u14. Has played up an age group with England u16s. Supposed to be a massive talent and would be a pretty incredible coup.if it's true. Also saw we'd signed Kerron Samuels from Chelsea when catching up on acadmey news. Looking forward to the new u18s coming in, a few were kind of chucked in at the deep last season, but should have a bit of experience for it

[RedG13]

Have seen some incredibly weak links to us signing Nwaneri from Arsenal, so will keep it out the transfer thread  .  Played for their u18s as an u14. Has played up an age group with England u16s. Supposed to be a massive talent and would be a pretty incredible coup.if it's true. Also saw we'd signed Kerron Samuels from Chelsea when catching up on acadmey news. Looking forward to the new u18s coming in, a few were kind of chucked in at the deep last season, but should have a bit of experience for it

What position/Role type are those talented youngsters

[PeterTheRed ...]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-academy-rule-change-breaking-24205620

[Chris~]

What position/Role type are those talented youngsters

Nwaneri looks like a winger/attacking midfield types England produce from descriptions and some brief YouTube scouting. Samuels a centre back I believe.

https://twitter.com/England/status/1537721713819009026?s=20&t=6gwVyjeyN5e08Rmzl2NXqw

Chambers, Quansah and Davies in the England Euro u-19 squad. Chambers playing up an age group for and International tournament without really doing so at in level must be pretty rare over the last few years for England.

[OOS]

Don't know if it's been mentioned, we have a ex red coming back to coach at the academy next season.

In the papers today... Jay Spearing coming back to play in the u23s and coach in the younger age groups.

[Boston always unofficial]

In the papers today... Jay Spearing coming back to play in the u23s and coach in the younger age groups.

 
I don't mind him coming back as a coach but no way should he be taking a spot from an up coming u-21 lad.

[67CherryRed]

 
I don't mind him coming back as a coach but no way should he be taking a spot from an up coming u-21 lad.

Why not? Gives plenty of leadership to the other 10 around him, shows them what it's like to play with men. Sometimes you watch an u-18/23 game and the lack of composure is evident, having a calming influence in the team will do them the world of good and aid their development.

[Chris~]

 
I don't mind him coming back as a coach but no way should he be taking a spot from an up coming u-21 lad.

He won't. The u23s regularly have players in it who don't really have much chance of making  and are kind of just filling out the squad for others, or couldn't get a loan.

I have no idea if the whole coach on the pitch approach makes that much of a difference but it won't stop someone coming through. The ones at Brighton and United played 8 and 4 premier League 2 games for example as well.

[Boston always unofficial]

The average age of u-23's was ne ne ne ne ne 19 last year.I just don't see any point to him playing,if they have to learn  from an old pro stick Milner in for a game.It doesn't seem forward thinking,progressive to me.

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The average age of u-23's was ne ne ne ne ne 19 last year.I just don't see any point to him playing,if they have to learn  from an old pro stick Milner in for a game.It doesn't seem forward thinking,progressive to me.

Spearing was always a decent pro though and he was pretty much born at the club he's a decent guy to have around and might be a great coach

[Fordy]

 
I don't mind him coming back as a coach but no way should he be taking a spot from an up coming u-21 lad.

Why not. The players will love playing along side him and will learn a hell of a lot. Not all are going to make it at Liverpool and Spearing will help them playing along them.

Also it will enable the likes of Morton to be around the 1st team more and gaining experience that way.

[xbugawugax]

not a lot of talk for morton getting loan time which probably means he is part of next year midfield set up?

spearing playing for the youth could mean more game time for morton in the seniors as well. guess thats what is being planned i guess.

he does look to be a bit too good for the youth team but just not good enough yet for the seniors. guess this year will be one for his progression. Nothing better than having thiago, hendo, milly and fab to guide him thru games.

[RedG13]

not a lot of talk for morton getting loan time which probably means he is part of next year midfield set up?

spearing playing for the youth could mean more game time for morton in the seniors as well. guess thats what is being planned i guess.

he does look to be a bit too good for the youth team but just not good enough yet for the seniors. guess this year will be one for his progression. Nothing better than having thiago, hendo, milly and fab to guide him thru games.

CUp gam/Depth option as 6 or 8 would be ideal. I dont think he has the Physical Size Klopp wants for a 6 for aerial duel reason but looks good enough in limited games with his passing that he could be a solid role player at Liverpool or make it at the PL Level.
If The staff thinks the player is good enough they prefer to keep the player to learn the system etc, CB probably the except position wise as being able to play  is important.

[William Regal]

I like Morton, very classy on the ball, think it would be a big benefit to him get a year on loan but at what level do you think he'd get game time at? He obviously needs a club that play proper football, do you think theres a chance he could play in the dutch league etc rather than some hoof ball cloggers in the championship?

[Chris~]

I like Morton, very classy on the ball, think it would be a big benefit to him get a year on loan but at what level do you think he'd get game time at? He obviously needs a club that play proper football, do you think theres a chance he could play in the dutch league etc rather than some hoof ball cloggers in the championship?

Think in the championship he probably ends up like Clarkson. Just not sure he's got the physicality yet to make an instant impact and wherever he goes on loan isn't going to wait long for him to adjust. I think a Championship side would take him though, they love having depth even if a loan player doesn't feature much


Holland would probably be a good first step, but we seem reluctant to ever send players there. Always though Woodburn should have gone there instead of jumping round British loans, Clarkson would have been better there as well. Next to no English side was ever going to use him in the same role as here.

[disgraced cake]

A loan could be the right idea for Morton. Was impressed when he got some first team minutes in the end of 2021. Agree with the Clarkson point, the Championship is a crazy league, he's good enough to play games there but at the same time could struggle. Maybe a foreign loan could be the shout.

Would expect Conor Bradley to get a loan too, perhaps one or two others around that age too.

[Fromola]

A loan could be the right idea for Morton. Was impressed when he got some first team minutes in the end of 2021. Agree with the Clarkson point, the Championship is a crazy league, he's good enough to play games there but at the same time could struggle. Maybe a foreign loan could be the shout.

Would expect Conor Bradley to get a loan too, perhaps one or two others around that age too.

The problem with The Championship is their isn't much patience with loan players if they don't make an immediate impact. Ben Woodburn at Sheff U was the same.

You need to be like Harvey Elliot and dominate or Neco last season.

[xbugawugax]

A loan could be the right idea for Morton. Was impressed when he got some first team minutes in the end of 2021. Agree with the Clarkson point, the Championship is a crazy league, he's good enough to play games there but at the same time could struggle. Maybe a foreign loan could be the shout.

Would expect Conor Bradley to get a loan too, perhaps one or two others around that age too.

this would be kind of interesting option for the young lads. Don.t we have some kind of partnerships with spanish and french teams. And surely Julian ward could get some of the youth playing the portugese leagues since we have quite a cordial relationship with them.

[gerrardisgod]

Would expect Conor Bradley to get a loan too, perhaps one or two others around that age too.

Bolton fan I know was asking about him, so I’d assume there’s been a link there.

[gerrardisgod]

And he’s gone there for the season, season ticket holder so I’ll get updates.

[Oskar]

Think that's a good move for him. Wondered whether he might get a loan to a Championship club, but he should play regularly at Bolton and they might well be looking to push for promotion this season. 40+ games, injuries permitting, at that level would be great for Bradley and will hopefully help him nail down a starting place for his country as well. Think he has a lot of potential so I'm looking forward to following his development next season.

[disgraced cake]

Think that's a good move for him. Wondered whether he might get a loan to a Championship club, but he should play regularly at Bolton and they might well be looking to push for promotion this season. 40+ games, injuries permitting, at that level would be great for Bradley and will hopefully help him nail down a starting place for his country as well. Think he has a lot of potential so I'm looking forward to following his development next season.

Yeah, should be a decent move for him. Hopefully Bolton came make a push for the Championship, because if they get promoted with him part of the side he can go back next season and get Championship experience. To have made five appearances for us and even more for his country before turning 19 is nothing to be sniffed at. Interesting to see what other youngsters follow him on loan this window.

One of the most interesting will be Van Den Berg. He's done well in the Championship and could probably do better than Preston right now. Do you keep him on loan in the Championship with a side who'd be expected to get promotion or send him elsewhere? Noted players going abroad on loan the other day and can't help but feeling if there's nothing available in the Prem for him then there'll be someone willing to take him elsewhere in Europe. Germany perhaps.

[67CherryRed]

One of the most interesting will be Van Den Berg. He's done well in the Championship and could probably do better than Preston right now. Do you keep him on loan in the Championship with a side who'd be expected to get promotion or send him elsewhere? Noted players going abroad on loan the other day and can't help but feeling if there's nothing available in the Prem for him then there'll be someone willing to take him elsewhere in Europe. Germany perhaps.

Personally I'd keep him, certainly until January. He left as a boy but he's a man now, let him develop in training around our senior players, maybe give him minutes in the league cup.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Yeah, should be a decent move for him. Hopefully Bolton came make a push for the Championship, because if they get promoted with him part of the side he can go back next season and get Championship experience. To have made five appearances for us and even more for his country before turning 19 is nothing to be sniffed at. Interesting to see what other youngsters follow him on loan this window.

One of the most interesting will be Van Den Berg. He's done well in the Championship and could probably do better than Preston right now. Do you keep him on loan in the Championship with a side who'd be expected to get promotion or send him elsewhere? Noted players going abroad on loan the other day and can't help but feeling if there's nothing available in the Prem for him then there'll be someone willing to take him elsewhere in Europe. Germany perhaps.

If Phillips and Davies are sold as expected, and Rhys goes out on loan, I think that Sepp might stay with us ...

[reddebs]

Quansah playing for England u19s against Israel.  Think Luke Chambers is on the bench too.

[jillcwhomever]

Quansah playing for England u19s against Israel.  Think Luke Chambers is on the bench too.

Is the game on anywhere Debs?

[reddebs]

Is the game on anywhere Debs?

I'm following on BBC sport site Jill don't know if it's on anywhere else.

[gerrardisgod]

BBC red button, it’s on.

Unless they’ve jibbed it for the Glastonbury nonsense.

[jillcwhomever]

BBC red button, it’s on.

Unless they’ve jibbed it for the Glastonbury nonsense.

Thanks.

[disgraced cake]

Quansah playing for England u19s against Israel.  Think Luke Chambers is on the bench too.

My app says Chambers is playing at left back.

Seem to remember a game a few months back, their age group I believe, and there was a good 4-5 Liverpool youngsters involved. Believe Cannonier may have been another one, perhaps Balagizi? Those two appear to be the only reds on this trip.

[reddebs]

My app says Chambers is playing at left back.

Seem to remember a game a few months back, their age group I believe, and there was a good 4-5 Liverpool youngsters involved. Believe Cannonier may have been another one, perhaps Balagizi? Those two appear to be the only reds on this trip.

Unless there's been a sub and changed formation he's on the bench as theyre playing 3 cbs mate.

Yeah we've got a good few internationals at this age group.

[disgraced cake]

Unless there's been a sub and changed formation he's on the bench as theyre playing 3 cbs mate.

Yeah we've got a good few internationals at this age group.

Did see this as well which suggests he started: https://twitter.com/KeiferMacd/status/1540744912811003907

As I say though I'm only going off that and an app, not watching the game

[BigCDump]

Chambers is playing LB or LWB but is doing a great job. Tidy play and dangerous balls forward or into the area from wide.

Quansah started as RCB first half but was subbed off at half time I think. Didn't notice him much as Israel are shit.

[Dan The Man 28373]

My app says Chambers is playing at left back.

Seem to remember a game a few months back, their age group I believe, and there was a good 4-5 Liverpool youngsters involved. Believe Cannonier may have been another one, perhaps Balagizi? Those two appear to be the only reds on this trip.

Harvey Davies, the 18yr old GK, is in the England squad as well, but hasn't played yet.

[Samie]

Liverpool have signed winger Trent Kone-Doherty, who will officially join the club in July. The 15-year-old has already played for Derry City’s first team in the League of Ireland.

Kone-Doherty, who will turn 16 when he signs for Liverpool, is capable of playing on both wings and will arrive for a compensation fee of around £150,000.

[disgraced cake]

A double barrelled Trent, eh?

[dakid]

Harvey Davies, the 18yr old GK, is in the England squad as well, but hasn't played yet.

Technically he isn't in the squad. He has gone there as a training goalkeeper. They have taken 21 in their "squad" when you can only have 20 players.

[dakid]

My app says Chambers is playing at left back.

Seem to remember a game a few months back, their age group I believe, and there was a good 4-5 Liverpool youngsters involved. Believe Cannonier may have been another one, perhaps Balagizi? Those two appear to be the only reds on this trip.

Balagizi would have been in a lot of the recent squads. Not selected here though. Same for Norris. Gordon also but he is coming back from a serious injury. Cannonier plays for the U18's when he has been selected.

[disgraced cake]

Found from one of the academy accounts on twitter:

Sepp van den Berg looks set to leave Liverpool on loan once again this summer but will start pre-season with Jurgen Klopp’s first team ahead of the Reds reporting back to the AXA Training Centre on July 4. #lfc [liverpool echo]

Reds bosses have been impressed by the Dutchman’s progress during his time away on loan, and he will start pre-season with the Liverpool first team as a result, as per @TheoSquiresECHO

Liverpool have already fielded enquiries from sides in the Premier League, Bundesliga and La Liga to sign the defender for the season, as per @TheoSquiresECHO


That's what we wanted to hear about Sepp. If he can get first team football in one of the best leagues in the world we've got reason to be excited by him. He's done well at Preston and while my guess would have been another Championship loan with a promotion chasing team, it sounds like there's going to be enough interest from a higher level. Think Germany would suit him for the time being but if he impresses wherever he goes I think we might have a really good player for the future.

[Chris~]

Quansah just scored to put England 2-1 up against Italy in the Euro u-19 semi finals

Luke Chambers coming on for Bynoe-Gittens who was brilliant after coming on, reckon he'll be getting plenty time for Dortmund next season