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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68120 on: May 3, 2023, 01:37:55 pm »
Draft grades exist only to give the people who make up draft grades something to do.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68121 on: May 3, 2023, 01:49:20 pm »
Draft grades exist only to give the people who make up draft grades something to do.

Draft grades will also be dictated by what picks you have.

Some of the better teams have limited number of high draft picks. Therefore it’s always harder to score highly because you aren’t picking those players in the Top15-20.

There were a few outliers to that this draft thought. Eagles, Lions and Seahawks all had 2 1st round draft picks coming off a season with a winning record. That’s quite unusual. Eagles and Seahawks exploited this somewhat and got great picks. More ability to pick best available player than look to fill huge gaps in roster..

Flip side is a team like the Rams in previous seasons where they are a perennial Super Bowl contender but very rarely get great draft grades due to lack of high picks. Same with 49ers this draft. 1st scheduled pick was 99. Outside of compensatory picks they had no picks in 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th round. They do have CMC and Trey Lance to show for those picks though. What’s going to help them win next season -CMC or a group of 2nd-4th round picks?
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68122 on: May 4, 2023, 09:59:52 am »
Draft grades exist only to give the people who make up draft grades something to do.

Well they can't start doing mock drafts for about another 6 months so they have to find something else to do.

It is surprising that they don't bin off some of these "experts" when some of them are more wrong than a dozen gary nevilles.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68123 on: May 4, 2023, 10:06:16 am »
Well they can't start doing mock drafts for about another 6 months so they have to find something else to do.

It is surprising that they don't bin off some of these "experts" when some of them are more wrong than a dozen gary nevilles.
Im pretty sure 2024 Mock Drafts are already out.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68124 on: May 4, 2023, 10:58:34 am »
Im pretty sure 2024 Mock Drafts are already out.


Ok, they can't start the updated weekly ones then.  ;D

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68125 on: May 8, 2023, 09:43:35 pm »
Yes, this is the announcement to the announcement.

2023 NFL Schedule Release -- Thursday May 11, 8pm ET on
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« Reply #68126 on: May 8, 2023, 10:53:02 pm »
Isn't the scheduling already known in terms of who faces who? Apart from inter division rivalries, don't they take turns facing other divisions each season? Or maybe I've got this wrong.

I guess it's just about which day/time slot the games are played right? Or is there more to the schedule being announced..

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68127 on: May 8, 2023, 11:28:23 pm »
Isn't the scheduling already known in terms of who faces who? Apart from inter division rivalries, don't they take turns facing other divisions each season? Or maybe I've got this wrong.

I guess it's just about which day/time slot the games are played right? Or is there more to the schedule being announced..

yeah they know who, it's just a matter of when.

I'm intending to actually head over and watch at least a couple of games this year so I give a shit more than usual.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68128 on: May 8, 2023, 11:29:27 pm »
Isn't the scheduling already known in terms of who faces who? Apart from inter division rivalries, don't they take turns facing other divisions each season? Or maybe I've got this wrong.

I guess it's just about which day/time slot the games are played right? Or is there more to the schedule being announced..
Yes is just about the day/time slot etc.
it you play one conference from AFC and NFC from another division everybody twice, plus everybody else  your conference based on your division finish(1st play 1st place teams) and one interconference based on finish too(with 17 games)
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-17-game-schedule-heres-how-the-complicated-scheduling-formula-will-work-with-the-extra-game/

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68129 on: May 8, 2023, 11:34:21 pm »
yeah they know who, it's just a matter of when.

I'm intending to actually head over and watch at least a couple of games this year so I give a shit more than usual.

Yep, all the teams have known who they're playing since week 18 of regular season [as 3 fixtures are based on division placement], it's the exact dates & times they're waiting for.
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68130 on: May 9, 2023, 12:30:05 am »
Ta lads  :wave  Yeah I guess it'll be interesting to see what's the season opener and Sun/Mon night games.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68131 on: May 9, 2023, 01:43:42 am »
Just a thought, the NHL has just had it's draft lottery, thinking whether NFL should follow suit with it's own draft lottery, similar rules to the NHL that non playoff teams get drawn out, stops the tanking for top draft picks & all that?
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68132 on: May 9, 2023, 07:42:55 am »
Just a thought, the NHL has just had it's draft lottery, thinking whether NFL should follow suit with it's own draft lottery, similar rules to the NHL that non playoff teams get drawn out, stops the tanking for top draft picks & all that?

Does NHL have a salary cap with minimum and maximum spend?

The minimum spend, in theory, stops NFL teams having a really poor roster. However, you do still see teams in rebuild phase who look like they aren’t trying to maximise wins. Arizona Cardinals look like that type of team for 2023. Colt McCoy at QB. Hopkins and Budda Baker supposedly on the trade block. Stockpiling draft picks for 2024.
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68133 on: May 9, 2023, 08:09:58 am »
I think there's some merit in maybe the bottom 5 teams having a lottery or something, but last year's texans will tell you tanking doesn't always take place anyway.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68134 on: May 9, 2023, 08:53:47 am »
I think there's some merit in maybe the bottom 5 teams having a lottery or something, but last year's texans will tell you tanking doesn't always take place anyway.

Texans won their final game in the last few seconds.

That win denied them the No1 pick.

Players are playing for their futures so I don’t think players tank. Organisations can try and make it harder for their team to win though
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68135 on: May 9, 2023, 09:04:17 am »
Texans won their final game in the last few seconds.

That win denied them the No1 pick.

Players are playing for their futures so I don’t think players tank. Organisations can try and make it harder for their team to win though

yeah that was the point. indeed they did and it was hilarious.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68136 on: May 9, 2023, 08:58:56 pm »
Texans won their final game in the last few seconds.

That win denied them the No1 pick.

Players are playing for their futures so I don’t think players tank. Organisations can try and make it harder for their team to win though
Players in Hockey and Basketball dont tank either. Same with coaches(sometimes they get dictated who they can play but that normally from above)

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68137 on: May 10, 2023, 12:07:12 pm »
London games announced

1st October  Wembley   Atlanta vs Jacksonville
8th October  Tottenham  Jacksonville vs Buffalo
15th October  Tottenham  Baltimore vs Tennessee

Also,  Dolphins vs. Chiefs in Frankfurt, 5th November
Patriots vs Indianapolis in Frankfurt, 12th November
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« Reply #68138 on: May 10, 2023, 12:30:26 pm »
London games announced

1st October  Wembley   Atlanta vs Jacksonville
8th October  Tottenham  Jacksonville vs Buffalo
15th October  Tottenham  Baltimore vs Tennessee

Also,  Dolphins vs. Chiefs in Frankfurt, 5th November
Patriots vs Indianapolis in Frankfurt, 12th November

I am going to that game, no matter the cost. I really want to watch Mahomes live ...

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68139 on: May 10, 2023, 12:39:36 pm »
I'm amused that all of the leaks were wrong.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68140 on: May 10, 2023, 12:44:43 pm »
ffs wasnt exepcting miami in frankfurt - not hope tickets!! Went looking for hotels getting picked up as clicking into them bookings out the window.
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« Reply #68141 on: May 10, 2023, 12:47:56 pm »
ffs wasnt exepcting miami in frankfurt - not hope tickets!! Went looking for hotels getting picked up as clicking into them bookings out the window.

I have a cousin living in Frankfurt, so no problem about the accomodation ;D

Now, about those tickets ...

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68142 on: May 10, 2023, 12:56:58 pm »
I have a cousin living in Frankfurt, so no problem about the accomodation ;D

Now, about those tickets ...

this is the problem with it being in staidum that holds probably 20k+ less than Munich after last year's ticket disaster it will be impossible.
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68143 on: May 10, 2023, 12:59:22 pm »
this is the problem with it being in staidum that holds probably 20k+ less than Munich after last year's ticket disaster it will be impossible.
Any particular reason they haven't gone back to Munich this year? I was under the impression that they'd alternate between Munich & Frankfurt.
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68144 on: May 10, 2023, 01:54:44 pm »
Any particular reason they haven't gone back to Munich this year? I was under the impression that they'd alternate between Munich & Frankfurt.

No clue, given size of fanbases seems odd choice smaller stadium.....

I have a cousin living in Frankfurt, so no problem about the accomodation ;D

Now, about those tickets ...

Well i've booked flights and hotel now so lets see on tickets....likely only need 2 so might be able help each other here once know when going on sale....
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« Reply #68145 on: May 10, 2023, 02:12:59 pm »
No clue, given size of fanbases seems odd choice smaller stadium.....

Well i've booked flights and hotel now so lets see on tickets....likely only need 2 so might be able help each other here once know when going on sale....

Good luck! The Germany tickets were neigh on impossible to get last year.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68146 on: May 10, 2023, 03:10:19 pm »
So many games in Europe!

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68147 on: May 10, 2023, 03:12:16 pm »
Good luck! The Germany tickets were neigh on impossible to get last year.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68148 on: May 11, 2023, 12:14:48 am »
London games feel.... bleh. I know international games aren't exactly going to be Chiefs/Bills et al, but still.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68149 on: May 11, 2023, 12:39:33 am »
London games feel.... bleh. I know international games aren't exactly going to be Chiefs/Bills et al, but still.
two jaguars games feels a bit much too.

feel like the ravens titans game will be 12-24 months too late, in terms of the prospects it's a good quality and exciting game. not sure i'll even bother trying this year after the tickets bollocks last year, despite being in london

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68150 on: May 11, 2023, 04:39:35 am »
The Jags are good now though? Bit odd to complain now relative to what we’ve had in the past. Chiefs are coming over, Ravens too…

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« Reply #68151 on: May 11, 2023, 07:43:59 am »
jim harbaugh was really not a fan of playing overseas last time, but that's because the ravens got smashed and flacco put up a passer rating of 12.

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« Reply #68152 on: May 11, 2023, 09:19:50 am »
jim harbaugh was really not a fan of playing overseas last time, but that's because the ravens got smashed and flacco put up a passer rating of 12.
And the Ravens did this to Lizzie

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« Reply #68153 on: May 11, 2023, 09:25:57 am »
And the Ravens did this to Lizzie



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« Reply #68154 on: May 11, 2023, 07:37:11 pm »
The Jags are good now though? Bit odd to complain now relative to what we’ve had in the past. Chiefs are coming over, Ravens too…

if that's in reply to me, it's the lack of diversity nothing to do with the team/team's quality - plus chiefs aren't coming over btw (our two posts were about London).

they're always one of the six teams already, and that's too much as it is. but now they're two out of the six teams.

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« Reply #68155 on: May 11, 2023, 08:13:42 pm »
I've got a vague idea of what I'd like to do when I go over later in the year, so I fully expect the schedule makers to not be kind and for me to have to have a complete rethink tomorrow.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #68156 on: May 12, 2023, 01:18:24 am »
Schedule release leaks in process.

Jets-Bills MNF Week 1.  Jets have a lot of primetime games this year.

Looks Lions-Chiefs is the first game of the year on September 7.
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« Reply #68157 on: May 12, 2023, 01:45:10 am »
Schedule release leaks in process.

Jets-Bills MNF Week 1.  Jets have a lot of primetime games this year.

Looks Lions-Chiefs is the first game of the year on September 7.

It's been released not leaked:

https://www.nfl.com/schedules/2023/reg1/


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« Reply #68158 on: May 12, 2023, 07:35:11 am »
Kudos to the Titans for their brilliant schedule releases video
https://twitter.com/Titans/status/1656827454118412289?t=3JEK6uZvDbQ641HgdnADfQ&s=19
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« Reply #68159 on: May 12, 2023, 09:00:53 am »
Kudos to the Titans for their brilliant schedule releases video
https://twitter.com/Titans/status/1656827454118412289?t=3JEK6uZvDbQ641HgdnADfQ&s=19
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