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[darragh85]

someone on my instagram was able to travel from Brazil to england this week. no quarantine just straight out sight seeing. might come to ireland too they said. ah sure why not when there is nothing stopping you coming from a covid hotspot.

amateur sport back in full swing now also. can someone tells me whats stopping this from spreading like wild fire now?  has the virus weakened or something and they arent as bothered about it anymore?

[keano7]

someone on my instagram was able to travel from Brazil to england this week. no quarantine just straight out sight seeing. might come to ireland too they said. ah sure why not when there is nothing stopping you coming from a covid hotspot.

amateur sport back in full swing now also. can someone tells me whats stopping this from spreading like wild fire now?  has the virus weakened or something and they arent as bothered about it anymore?

I expected there to be a mini spike post the BLM protestS \ beaches etc but there doesn’t seem to be any correlation to show any abnormality in increases in cases.

I got the impression from the briefing this afternoon that the government do secretly expect a second wave in the winter but there’ll be only local / regional lockdowns enforced and no intention of another national lockdown.

[killer-heels]

I expected there to be a mini spike post the BLM protestS \ beaches etc but there doesn’t seem to be any correlation to show any abnormality in increases in cases.

I got the impression from the briefing this afternoon that the government do secretly expect a second wave in the winter but there’ll be only local / regional lockdowns enforced and no intention of another national lockdown.

Quite right as well. There are some industries that could yet be saved by winter trading such as some theatres, pubs and restaurants. Another national lockdown and then the only way people will be able watch theatre ever again is watching ‘Hamilton’ on Disney Life.

Another national lockdown has to be avoided by almost all costs. Or we just accept life without certain things and prioritise squashing this virus.

[Peabee]

I expected there to be a mini spike post the BLM protestS \ beaches etc but there doesn’t seem to be any correlation to show any abnormality in increases in cases.

I got the impression from the briefing this afternoon that the government do secretly expect a second wave in the winter but there’ll be only local / regional lockdowns enforced and no intention of another national lockdown.

Outdoors transmission is lower risk that’s why.

Pubs are at the top end of the scale in terms of risk. Indoors, social interaction, so speech droplets lingering in the air.

[Peabee]

someone on my instagram was able to travel from Brazil to england this week. no quarantine just straight out sight seeing. might come to ireland too they said. ah sure why not when there is nothing stopping you coming from a covid hotspot.

amateur sport back in full swing now also. can someone tells me whats stopping this from spreading like wild fire now?  has the virus weakened or something and they arent as bothered about it anymore?

It’ll be the pubs etc that start the second wave not outdoors activities. There’s lots of research being published now on transmission risks.

[Black Bull Nova]

five and a half hours to opening time, I'll bet there are dickheads queuing now

[Dr. Beaker]

I'm doing the spadework now to save a few Bob.

[Macphisto80]

someone on my instagram was able to travel from Brazil to england this week. no quarantine just straight out sight seeing. might come to ireland too they said. ah sure why not when there is nothing stopping you coming from a covid hotspot.

amateur sport back in full swing now also. can someone tells me whats stopping this from spreading like wild fire now?  has the virus weakened or something and they arent as bothered about it anymore?

Is the Taoiseach planning on letting Americans travel? I heard something vaguely being mentioned on the radio earlier about that, with warnings of a least 50 new cases a day, and exponential increases if it's allowed. I fucking hope not.

[legendkiller]

There  is Americans in the South of Ireland all ready in Hotels . Think Ireland doing 20000 tests a day so I assume thats 75% in Dublin . No talk of an antibody test here .

[Welshred]

someone on my instagram was able to travel from Brazil to england this week. no quarantine just straight out sight seeing. might come to ireland too they said. ah sure why not when there is nothing stopping you coming from a covid hotspot.

There was never any formal quarantine anyway just a self imposed one that is impossible to police. The threats of fines were ridiculous, how is the bobby on the street to know if you've just travelled from Brazil or the US?

[So… Howard Philips]

Yep. I think they call it giving people enough rope...

The difference is that all,of the other events were illegal. Using your rope metaphor this is a judicial execution.

[12C]

https://lwlies.com/articles/covideo-classics-independence-day-cartoon-david-squires/

Squires on good form here.

[Thepooloflife]

So Johnson wants to reintroduce another clap for NHS on Sunday evening. 

Should be a minutes silence instead.......for all those health and care workers who've lost their lives. RIP

[ShakaHislop]

An opportunity for those of you who wish to leave a legacy to future generations

Coronavirus: South Shields Museum appeals for hair clippings

A museum is appealing for people's hair following their first trim since the coronavirus lockdown was eased in England.

Hairdressers are among the businesses that have reopened after having been closed since March.

South Shields Museum is asking people to provide before-and-after photographs as well as the clippings.

Among the museum's existing collection of hair cuttings are plaits that once belonged to author Catherine Cookson.

Adam Bell, assistant keeper of social history, said donations would form part of the museum's pandemic collection and used in future displays documenting life amid the outbreak.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-53290775

[[new username under construction]]

Passed a hair dressers on the way to work this morning, medium queue outside, everyone already had short hair :/

[ShakaHislop]

Hospitals in at least two Texas counties at full capacity amid statewide spike in coronavirus cases

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505855-hospitals-in-at-least-two-texas-counties-at-full-capacity-amid-statewide

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Hospitals in at least two Texas counties at full capacity amid statewide spike in coronavirus cases

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505855-hospitals-in-at-least-two-texas-counties-at-full-capacity-amid-statewide

Nothing to do with Covid,just respiratory and heart problem.

[Fromola]

Some days I question whether I was right to want Boris to get over Covid-19.

He'd have been made a martyr. As much as the country will suffer for his idiocy at least he'll go down in history as a shyster and our worst PM.

[scouseman]

Hi everone. I hope you are all well. I know this is not the right place to ask and I looked in the boozer thread but despite a pandemic and me being a disabled housebound individual who has not left the house yet living with my elderly mother I have been selected for Jury duty and I am not sure what to do about getting it cancelled? Any help would be most welcome 

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Hi everone. I hope you are all well. I know this is not the right place to ask and I looked in the boozer thread but despite a pandemic and me being a disabled housebound individual who has not left the house yet living with my elderly mother I have been selected for Jury duty and I am not sure what to do about getting it cancelled? Any help would be most welcome

Just call them and cancel,primary carer and whatnot.

[frankenhooker]

Hi everone. I hope you are all well. I know this is not the right place to ask and I looked in the boozer thread but despite a pandemic and me being a disabled housebound individual who has not left the house yet living with my elderly mother I have been selected for Jury duty and I am not sure what to do about getting it cancelled? Any help would be most welcome

I deferred mine just because of flippant work reasons outside of a pandemic, I imagine you’ll have no problems at all getting out of it as things stand.  I’m not advocating this, but I ignored my second call up and heard absolutely zilch, this was three years ago. A doctors letter would be more than enough I’d of thought.

[ShakaHislop]

Hi everone. I hope you are all well. I know this is not the right place to ask and I looked in the boozer thread but despite a pandemic and me being a disabled housebound individual who has not left the house yet living with my elderly mother I have been selected for Jury duty and I am not sure what to do about getting it cancelled? Any help would be most welcome

In addition to the above posts, there's a telephone number and postal address here.

https://www.gov.uk/jury-service/delaying-or-being-excused-from-jury-service

Also some info here about jury service deferals/excusals (Page 4)

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/709844/jury-summons-guide-eng.pdf

And advice in the context of Covid-19

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-courts-and-tribunals-planning-and-preparation#jury-service

[So… Howard Philips]

Nothing to do with Covid,just respiratory and heart problem.

And a cough and loss of sense and smell, but not the Kung Flu, no siree.

[scouseman]

thank you for your responses I will call them on Monday and explain my situation. I guess it does help in a way that there is a pandemic on and that I have not left the house for  months. Bit worried about it but I will speak to them and see what happens.

[S]

It's packed down here in Cornwall. Was getting steadily busier over the months of lockdown but has increased massively in the space of just a day.

[Welshred]

It's just as well the pubs have to keep their music down low to stop people from shouting otherwise the noise coming from the one by me might be off the scales around about now 

[killer-heels]

Ha, the pubs are packed. Just went past my local and its heaving with people.

[reddebs]

First day back in work for me and all went reasonably well.

Hated wearing a visor all day though.  It kept steaming up, especially when we were shampooing and I keep thinking I've still got it on as it's imprinted round my head!

Got into a decent routine of disinfecting every surface as soon as a client moved.  Rotation of combs, scissors and brushes into sterilisation after each use went well but letting the phones go to answer machine felt weird.

The booking system still needs some tweaking as we're wasting valuable time between clients but also clients are having to wait longer for the backwash area due to social distancing.

Was good to get back and to see everyone again now I've got to get my head round going to peoples homes for my mobile clients.



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[Zeb]

Something which is going right in the UK and is earning international praise.

Large, randomized trials are the gold standard to test a drug’s efficacy. But they have been scarce so far in the COVID-19 pandemic. “Everybody has the first part about “randomized,” but they omitted the “large” part, says Ana-Maria Henao Restrepo, a medical officer at the World Health Organization’s (WHO’s) Emergencies Programme. “Every clinician, every researcher wants to help and then they end up having a trial with 300 or 400 patients that cannot come up with conclusive evidence.” In a sea of small, single institution studies, Recovery, with 12,000 patients and hundreds of participating hospitals, stands out—and offers lessons for the few other megatrials, organized by WHO and other bodies, which have been slow off the mark. “I think the three Recovery trials are the best trials that have been performed to date,” Topol says.

One reason Recovery has done so well is that it was backed by the United Kingdom’s centralized National Health Service (NHS), involving 176 of its hospitals. In the United States, where the health care system is fragmented, the National Institutes of Health has only begun a few large trials so far and completed just one, a trial of Gilead Sciences’s antiviral compound remdesivir that showed those given the drug recovered from COVID-19 faster. The dearth of results from a country that has seen more cases of COVID-19 than any other is “surprising and a bit disappointing,” says John-Arne Røttingen, who heads the steering committee of Solidarity, WHO’s attempt to evaluate repurposed drugs as possible COVID-19 therapies.

In contrast, the United Kingdom’s own bungled public health response to the new virus, which has led to Europe’s largest outbreak, has been taken advantage of by Recovery. “They have been able to recruit well, because they have had a lot of hospitalized patients,” Røttingen says. (The United Kingdom has had more than 43,000 deaths, surpassed only by the United States and Brazil, far more populous countries.)

In a letter to all NHS hospitals, the United Kingdom’s five most senior doctors urged health care workers to enroll patients in Recovery and two other important trials. “Use of treatments outside of a trial, where participation was possible, is a wasted opportunity to create information that will benefit others,” the doctors, including Chris Whitty, chief medical officer for England, wrote. Because of that coordination, “One in every six COVID-19 patients that come into the U.K. hospitals go into the trial,” Landray says.

Organizers also kept Recovery simple, allowing any NHS hospital to participate. Inspired by trials that his Oxford colleague Richard Peto and others did in the 1980s on treating heart attacks, Landray says they radically cut down on the data health care workers need to collect, with only a few questions asked at enrolment and at only one more data collection point: when the patient dies, is discharged, or 28 days after enrollment. Clinical trials have become excessively cumbersome in recent years, he argues. “It’s actually quite hard to make them really simple.”

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/one-uk-trial-transforming-covid-19-treatment-why-haven-t-others-delivered-more-results

[The G in Gerrard]

The UK led vaccine trials, will it be September / October that we see the results of these and how likely it'll be fee feasible for wider usage (fingers crossed)?

[Macphisto80]

The UK led vaccine trials, will it be September / October that we see the results of these and how likely it'll be fee feasible for wider usage (fingers crossed)?

I read they said they'll have data by mid July. That was about a month or so ago.

[The G in Gerrard]

I read they said they'll have data by mid July. That was about a month or so ago.

That soon? Wow. That will determine whether these are viable vaccinations or further testing required then?

[djahern]

That soon? Wow. That will determine whether these are viable vaccinations or further testing required then?

Further testing would still be required, but as Macphisto says above - preliminary data from the trial is expected in the next two weeks. Essentially they'll know if the vaccine promotes the wanted immune response and the people develop an antibody and T cell immunity to Sars-Cov-2

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Was in the car earlier today and all the pubs this end seemed pretty empty. One or two student pubs looked rammed though

[filopastry]

Sunday Times reporting that govt is close to agreeing a deal to buy 60m doses of the Sanofi/GSK vaccine if it works.

Not likely to start human trials until Septembert, but just shows how much of a race there is to lock down early access supplies of vaccines.

I suppose that gives the UK access to a vaccine in each of the main categories western countries are working on per https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/06/29/coronavirus-vaccine-update-june-29

Viral vectors - Oxford/AstraZeneca
Genetic vaccines - Imperial College
Recombinant Protein vaccines - Sanofi/GSK

[Statto Red]

Was in the car earlier today and all the pubs this end seemed pretty empty. One or two student pubs looked rammed though

Couple of boozers i visited were busy but not heaving, some you have to pre book a table, others you can walk straight in, for me it was good to get out of my flat & have a few beers

[PaulF]

Hi everone. I hope you are all well. I know this is not the right place to ask and I looked in the boozer thread but despite a pandemic and me being a disabled housebound individual who has not left the house yet living with my elderly mother I have been selected for Jury duty and I am not sure what to do about getting it cancelled? Any help would be most welcome 

Not as good as the links from Shaka. But this was discussed on a call in or radio 5 about a month ago. Absolutely fine to be dismissed from jury duty. In fact I now remember the question was why were they even selected. But it was because of patient confidentiality. I know you'll sleep easier after the call Monday, but don't worry about it.

[PaulF]

Something which is going right in the UK and is earning international praise.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/one-uk-trial-transforming-covid-19-treatment-why-haven-t-others-delivered-more-results

Wow Zeb. Can't quite use one of my favourite phrases about damning with faint praise. But they are basically saying we can do a large study because we've been shit and had so many in hospital!
(And I know it's centralised, unlike the USA..)

[Bincey]

Not seen this posted but just shows the numbers of people (in this case 80% of the elderly tested) that may be asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vivaldi-1-coronavirus-covid-19-care-homes-study-report/vivaldi-1-covid-19-care-homes-study-report

More and more studies seem to be showing this.

[reddebs]

Not seen this posted but just shows the numbers of people (in this case 80% of the elderly tested) that may be asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vivaldi-1-coronavirus-covid-19-care-homes-study-report/vivaldi-1-covid-19-care-homes-study-report

More and more studies seem to be showing this.

One of my clients yesterday  who had lost her 79yr old dad to it and they didn't realise he had it. 

They only found out after he'd had a fall and was taken to hospital where he was tested.

He died 8 days later still without showing any symptoms.

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