Author Topic: Turkey - military on the streets (Read 33999 times)

DJBrenton · « **Reply #40 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:14:22 pm »

Quote from: Nick110581 on July 15, 2016, 09:30:39 pm

Brother due to fly home from Turkey late tonight (not from Istanbul thankfully)

Hopefully he got out before the airports were closed, which they now seem to be.

Lone Star Red · « **Reply #41 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:15:10 pm »

As bad as Erdogan is, he still has a lot of support in Turkey. Hoping this doesn't turn ugly.

Pheeny · « **Reply #42 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:15:19 pm »

Tweet of the day...

"Fuck me Skrtel's only been in Turkey a few days and they're already overthrowing the government to try and force him out"

TepidT2O · « **Reply #43 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:15:50 pm »

Quote from: Libertine on July 15, 2016, 10:13:41 pm

Military's statement is being read on TRT. "Council of Peace in the Country" they name themselves.

https://twitter.com/meralink/status/754059470553149441

Tim Marshall on Sky News now.

Council of Peace?

How often do those sort of things turn out to be articles for fear, intimidation and torture?

Iska · « **Reply #44 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:17:02 pm »

Quote from: zero zero on July 15, 2016, 09:34:57 pm

Sad state of affairs when our first thought is to welcome a military coup.

It feels strange, but so long as there's no chaos I can't see this as a bad thing. Hate Erdogan.

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson's first day in the job and he pulls this off, what a legend.

Crimson_Tank · « **Reply #45 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:18:17 pm »

Quote from: Mouth on July 15, 2016, 10:10:35 pm

Reports in he's legged it in a private jet.

Looks like the army won.

Perhaps so, but who will heads of state recognize, will the continue talking with Mr. Erdogan or will they open up channels of dialogue with the Army.

THis is how we will know who really has won.

lindylou100 · « **Reply #46 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:18:53 pm »

Been a long time coming as I thought part of the duty of the military was to maintain Attaturks vision of a secular Turkey. It'll be interesting to see how the turkish population react as a lot of economic prosperity has come about in the last 10 years under Erdogans watch so I can see the country being split over this.

The world just seems to be slowly being destabilized bit by bit.

Samie · « **Reply #47 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:19:54 pm »

Step up Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson to sort this out.

Libertine · « **Reply #48 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:20:54 pm »

Well, they seem to have support in Istanbul at least, though that's not surprising....

https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/754061142373244928

Seebab · « **Reply #49 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:21:29 pm »

Quote from: Iska on July 15, 2016, 10:17:02 pm

It feels strange, but so long as there's no chaos I can't see this as a bad thing. Hate Erdogan.

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson's first day in the job and he pulls this off, what a legend.

Erdogan is a c*nt but there is no doubt he is heavily supported by many Turks. While I have wanted to see him out for a while now, it would have always been democratically. A coup will only lead to more chaos as half of the country rebels against the army's decision and the other minority groups start to take advantage of the situation. If this is indeed what everyone is saying, I don't think the future is very bright for Turkey, which is a huge shame. One of my favourite countries to visit.

RideTheWalrus · « **Reply #50 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:28:45 pm »

Apparently Erdogan is on holiday so that's the timing for the coup.

We have some Turkish RAWKers don't we? hope some of them fill us in. I've only heard of how batshit Erdogan is. Would love some input from them

lindylou100 · « **Reply #51 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:29:57 pm »

Quote from: Crimson_Tank on July 15, 2016, 10:18:17 pm

Perhaps so, but who will heads of state recognize, will the continue talking with Mr. Erdogan or will they open up channels of dialogue with the Army.

THis is how we will know who really has won.

They'll probably wait to see how it all plays out but well you know the saying, might makes right and the military has all of it. It probably serves western interests for Turkey to be secular anyway.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #52 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:30:33 pm »

Quote from: Samie on July 15, 2016, 10:19:54 pm

Step up Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson to sort this out.

I can see him now, sliding in on his zip wire ready to save the day...... If they can get him down.

CheshireDave · « **Reply #53 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:30:36 pm »

Live news thread here - https://www.reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkq

RideTheWalrus · « **Reply #54 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:30:58 pm »

Erdogan is calling citizens to the streets, saying "I trust the power of people".

this'll turn nasty. Public v public, public v military.

Libertine · « **Reply #55 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:33:16 pm »

Erdogan face-times a private TV channel

RideTheWalrus · « **Reply #56 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:37:18 pm »

JUST IN: NBC reporting that Erdogan has requested asylum in Germany

TipTopKop · « **Reply #57 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:38:22 pm »

Wonder if Pikachu will pop up behind him

lindylou100 · « **Reply #58 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:38:45 pm »

Quote from: RideTheWalrus on July 15, 2016, 10:37:18 pm

JUST IN: NBC reporting that Erdogan has requested asylum in Germany

But what about the the goat thing?

CHOPPER · « **Reply #59 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:39:09 pm »

Quote from: Libertine on July 15, 2016, 10:33:16 pm

Erdogan face-times a private TV channel

OMG! Is that a Galaxy S6? Eeeeeeeeeee-acker-backer

Party Phil · « **Reply #60 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:40:08 pm »

Quote from: RideTheWalrus on July 15, 2016, 10:37:18 pm

JUST IN: NBC reporting that Erdogan has requested asylum in Germany

Carlsberg don't do ironic asylum requests, but if they did...

DJBrenton · « **Reply #61 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:40:49 pm »

I wonder if Erdogan will be treated like other refugees there.

Mag Hull · « **Reply #62 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:41:27 pm »

Quote from: Chðþþerssssson Redknapp on July 15, 2016, 09:36:42 pm

Messy.

Pseudo Religious governance V's Anti-Religious governance V's a Despot. Is that it?

Genuinely not close to the dynamics of Turkish politics/life style, so that's my guess from what you're getting at?

It's alright Boris will get to the bottom of it for you

PhilV · « **Reply #63 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:42:35 pm »

Erdogan is fucking bell. Hopefully this is a good thing, I doubt he will have many backers and hopefully that means it's a peaceful coup

Babel Time · « **Reply #64 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:46:45 pm »

Quote from: DJBrenton on July 15, 2016, 10:40:49 pm

I wonder if Erdogan will be treated like other refugees there.

Like being sent back to Turkey as part of the deal he agreed to?

stoa · « **Reply #65 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:47:39 pm »

Quote from: PhilV on July 15, 2016, 10:42:35 pm

Erdogan is fucking bell. Hopefully this is a good thing, I doubt he will have many backers and hopefully that means it's a peaceful coup

Half the country voted for his party late last year, so I seriously doubt that he lacks backers. As far as I know, most of his support is in the rather rural areas and not in the big cities. It's kind of baffling how his party got that many votes after all the shite Erdogan's done in recent years...

Craig S · « **Reply #66 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:50:34 pm »

Quote from: PhilV on July 15, 2016, 10:42:35 pm

Erdogan is fucking bell. Hopefully this is a good thing, I doubt he will have many backers and hopefully that means it's a peaceful coup

Have some Turkish friends I met night before final in 2005. Beşiktaş supporters so have been over to visit them when we played there twice.

They don't know what the fuck is going on. Locked themselves in their houses. They live in Beşiktaş so pretty central, said they have seen tanks going past.

They hate Erdogan, but don't want this.

They can't get on Facebook or Twitter, been in touch with them on WhatsApp.

please, I have my reasons for it but... · « **Reply #67 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:52:29 pm »

Quote from: RideTheWalrus on July 15, 2016, 10:37:18 pm

JUST IN: NBC reporting that Erdogan has requested asylum in Germany

How ironic is that.

CheshireDave · « **Reply #68 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:57:53 pm »

Quote from: PhilV on July 15, 2016, 10:42:35 pm

Erdogan is fucking bell. Hopefully this is a good thing, I doubt he will have many backers and hopefully that means it's a peaceful coup

He has millions and millions of supporters.

51% of the country voted him in in 2014

Iska · « **Reply #69 on:** July 15, 2016, 11:02:19 pm »

Quote from: Y2J on July 15, 2016, 10:52:29 pm

How ironic is that.

Ah come on, it's got to be a joke. Fair play to whoever came up with it.

Caligula? · « **Reply #70 on:** July 15, 2016, 11:03:33 pm »

Fairly soon the terrorist Erdogan will be seeking asylum in Germany as well. Good news this so far.

CheshireDave · « **Reply #71 on:** July 15, 2016, 11:04:00 pm »

Ankara Mayor has urged residents to ignore the curfew and take to the streets.

https://twitter.com/06melihgokcek

please, I have my reasons for it but... · « **Reply #72 on:** July 15, 2016, 11:07:02 pm »

Quote from: Iska on July 15, 2016, 11:02:19 pm

Ah come on, it's got to be a joke. Fair play to whoever came up with it.

It has been reported on NBC news and apparently it has been rejected.

The North Bank · « **Reply #73 on:** July 15, 2016, 11:08:37 pm »

Military helicopters have fired at state television, according to reports.

What's happening in the world.

Mouth · « **Reply #74 on:** July 15, 2016, 11:10:41 pm »

Quote from: PhilV on July 15, 2016, 10:42:35 pm

Erdogan is fucking bell. Hopefully this is a good thing, I doubt he will have many backers and hopefully that means it's a peaceful coup

Reports a helicopter fired on anti coup protesters, so not bloodless. There was also video of the sounds of a firefight and a large explosion has been heard.

People are on the streets

https://www.periscope.tv/__MemiK__/1rmxPDZmXXQxN

XabiAlonsosBeard · « **Reply #75 on:** July 15, 2016, 11:11:23 pm »

The coup is being attributed to Fethullah Gulen, an Islamic cleric in exile in the US.

Anybody know anything about him? He's apparently conservative, but advocates democracy (

) and religious tolerance. So, I'm presuming he's not going to be an Ayatollah Khomeini/Iran type?

stoa · « **Reply #76 on:** July 15, 2016, 11:13:03 pm »

Quote from: CheshireDave on July 15, 2016, 11:04:00 pm

Ankara Mayor has urged residents to ignore the curfew and take to the streets.

https://twitter.com/06melihgokcek

So, the military has taken over your country, your position is under threat. What do you do? Tell unarmed civilians to go to the streets despite a curfew and martial law being in place. That's clearly the right thing to do...

AB LFC · « **Reply #77 on:** July 15, 2016, 11:13:34 pm »

Whole world has gone absolutely crazy. Feels like we're living in the end times.

monkeyharris · « **Reply #78 on:** July 15, 2016, 11:14:10 pm »

Erdogans call to the streets gonna lead to bloodshed tonight..looks like it's started
Out of interest does anyone know how the Istanbul footy teams Ultras line up..does one team support Erdogans government more than the other..they gonna get involved?

Libertine · « **Reply #79 on:** July 15, 2016, 11:15:28 pm »

Quote from: AB LFC on July 15, 2016, 11:13:34 pm

Whole world has gone absolutely crazy. Feels like we're living in the end times.

There's been coups in Turkey in 1960, 1971, 1980 and 1997. It's nothing new.