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« Reply #200 on: December 15, 2017, 10:15:34 pm »

^ saw a bit about that a week or so ago. At the time Gremio were not happy and were going to report Barca for tapping up etc... something seems to have changed there...



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« Reply #201 on: January 10, 2018, 07:28:13 pm »
Tevez to Boca. Good to see a big name return to SA. If he isn't past it like. We'll see

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« Reply #202 on: January 16, 2018, 09:34:10 pm »
Just seen el grafico is shutting its print operation down, sad news that

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« Reply #203 on: February 21, 2018, 10:32:43 am »
Watched a random match on Sunday, it was Flamengo vs another team with a green tree as logo. It was a welcome change from the standard football because there was no commentary. But here is my point:
I tried to google the match to find out if this was a league or cup match, and holy shit, the Brazilian league system is something else! If I understood it correctly teams play in both local and regional leagues? Then there are various cups..I gave up

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« Reply #204 on: February 22, 2018, 12:08:35 am »
^ ha ha. I live in Brazil (for a year and I'm only just beginning to understand it).

in short; the season starts with the statewide championship. The games like the one today to empty stadiums. Great though because you'll get the equivalent of Marine v Liverpool and although the big clubs are just warming up there are some good games - like sometimes the early FA Cup rounds when the smaller teams get tp play at Anfield or Old Trafford. The Brazilian equivalent of the FA cup starts next, and might have already? the early rounds of this are complicated (for me) because of the vast distances here. For example if a very small club gets beat in their home leg the 2nd leg is null and void and the bigger club go through (because the cost of the airfares and hotels from Amazonia to the South (long haul) is like a season's budget - more or less - and there is no massive money to be made from gate receipts or TV money). Next the Campeonato - the premier league - they did have a play off system in this for a while but now it's a first past the post - and the top 6 go into the libertadores. That's the short version and it's probably full of mistakes - I  spend the first 25 minutes of my Portuguese lesson discussing The League Cup, the away goals rule, "park the bus" "rainy night in Stoke" with my teacher so never have time to get to the bottom of what's what in Brazilian football. Maybe Babu Y can help? The other thing is the matches start so late here because the soap operas cannot be cancelled :D

Anyway it's the South Amercian "Supercup" on in half an hour  - The  Recopa

Grêmio v Independiente (1-1) after the first leg


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« Reply #205 on: February 22, 2018, 01:18:06 am »
Never seen that before, the  Independiente lad rolling around - a lot - pretending to be maimed - told to fucking get up and sent back to his position by the ref :D

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« Reply #206 on: February 22, 2018, 03:34:21 am »
0-0 extra time - home crowd and away fans deafening 

Gremio win 5-4 on pens - the recopa (supercup)
Fireworks etc in Porto Alegre and across the South - once again :D
And is this the only time Everton has played in a supercup final? good quiz question there :D

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« Reply #208 on: February 22, 2018, 02:10:12 pm »
Thank you for that, Kavah. I tend to forget how enormously big Brazil is! Think I'll just watch the odd match and not try to understand the system ;)

Did quite a lot of Wikipedia reading and the history of some of the clubs is intriguing. Like one team was founded by Italian immigrants. Fascinating country and culture!
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« Reply #209 on: February 22, 2018, 03:20:43 pm »
Thank you for that, Kavah. I tend to forget how enormously big Brazil is! Think I'll just watch the odd match and not try to understand the system ;)

Did quite a lot of Wikipedia reading and the history of some of the clubs is intriguing. Like one team was founded by Italian immigrants. Fascinating country and culture!

the changes to the format of the Brazilian league over time also make for very interesting reading.

At one point, if I remember correctly, they fashioned a league where attendance somehow factored into the standings...
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« Reply #211 on: April 5, 2018, 02:08:38 am »
Not S.American but any of you guys have an opinion on the Chivas v NY than is on in an hour,I have Chivas in my accy but can cash out for £37
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« Reply #212 on: April 5, 2018, 02:32:16 am »
Not S.American but any of you guys have an opinion on the Chivas v NY than is on in an hour,I have Chivas in my accy but can cash out for £37

If the accy is just for tonight's match I'd stick with it for a Chivas win (though this is the 1st leg of a 2 legged tie overall) - they are strong at home, less so away.

NY are 5/1 for the win in some places, Chivas are nearly 1/3 for the win in others.

Good luck with it.


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« Reply #213 on: April 5, 2018, 07:10:47 pm »
If the accy is just for tonight's match I'd stick with it for a Chivas win (though this is the 1st leg of a 2 legged tie overall) - they are strong at home, less so away.

NY are 5/1 for the win in some places, Chivas are nearly 1/3 for the win in others.

Good luck with it.


Edit - you may have more luck bumping/asking in the MLS thread mate. Hope you stuck with the accy mate - a nice 1-0 win for Chivas :)

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« Reply #214 on: April 8, 2018, 01:03:28 pm »

Palmeiras vs Corinthians is an 8pm ko tonight in the Final (2nd leg) of the Campeonato Paulista :)

Palmeiras lead 1-0 from the 1st leg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plfC-4dNmXw


Should be a cracking game... this is the Corinthians fans at their team's training session from Friday...

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« Reply #215 on: April 9, 2018, 12:22:05 am »

Corinthians won the game 1-0, and it went to penalties...

Highlights and penalties here (pens start 8m 10s in) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPVt9nqBeTM



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« Reply #216 on: May 12, 2018, 06:21:06 pm »
It's the Gremio v Inter Gáucho Derby in a couple of hours


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« Reply #217 on: May 28, 2018, 12:17:32 am »
last minute winner (8:30) this evening for Inter 2 v 1 Corinthians

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« Reply #218 on: June 14, 2018, 07:36:17 pm »

Just the 6 red cards between Flamengo vs Palmeiras last night - the game finished 1-1...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXBcWT3QoBY & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4iqCUmuoI

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« Reply #219 on: August 5, 2018, 07:31:50 pm »

The mighty Liverpool (of Uruguay) are doing well of late - maintaining their top-flight status last season, and getting a draw vs Cerro on the opening day :)

http://www.liverpoolfc.com.uy/ : https://twitter.com/LiverpoolFC1915 : https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolFC1915/

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along with more of his usual quality stuff :)


Hope they have a cracking season  :champ
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« Reply #220 on: August 28, 2018, 10:16:26 pm »
Libertadores last 16 2nd legs tonight and tomorrow

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« Reply #221 on: August 29, 2018, 12:20:55 am »
HT Santos 0 - 0 Independiente (missed pen)

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« Reply #222 on: August 29, 2018, 12:25:05 am »

^ about to tune in for the 2nd half of that :) Santos will do well to come from 3-0 down in the 1st leg - http://insomniasports.xyz/sporttv2.html

Gremio vs Estudiantes should be decent later too - https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/9b3az6/0045_gmt_gr%C3%AAmio_vs_estudiantes/


UK kick off times and live scores (with more info) - https://www.flashscores.co.uk/football/south-america/copa-libertadores/

Most of these sites should be carrying streams... (given the amount of footy that SKY and BT have lost for this season I'm surprised they haven't gone for showing this live - or delayed live etc)

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« Reply #223 on: August 29, 2018, 12:57:52 am »
One of the worst games of football I've ever seen. Poor quality, shite ref. Like watching a lower league game. Ever 20 seconds the ref is blowing his whistle.
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« Reply #224 on: August 29, 2018, 01:14:18 am »
Santos fans kicking off now, looks likes it's going to be abandoned.

from the reddit thread:

"Fuck the conmebol. Shove this shit tournament up your ass you crooked fucks"   ;D

nobody got too hurt (I hope)  - the bizzies twatted a few like

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« Reply #225 on: August 29, 2018, 01:28:09 am »

Clever lads in the stands ripping up seats and chucking them below - all on camera...

fans on the pitch who seem surprised and annoyed the police are arresting them!

Players taken off the pitch - not much point in playing the little time that is left - especially as Santos are 3-0 down. Big fine and ban?


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« Reply #226 on: August 29, 2018, 01:33:14 am »
One of the worst games of football I've ever seen. Poor quality, shite ref. Like watching a lower league game. Ever 20 seconds the ref is blowing his whistle.

that's because both teams essentially dropped the pretense that they were playing fair - earlier today CONMEBOL declared Independiente the winner of the first leg (making the "new" score 3-0) because of Santos fielding an ineligible player during that match*, so tensions were running "a bit high" before the match and it went downhill from there.

*: it's a controversial rule and it's become infamous lately - a number of teams have been recently penalized for "fielding ineligible players" ('cause they were registered for a different team earlier in the same competition, even if they never actually played... essentially, they're cup tied) and pressure is mounting on CONMEBOL for such a rule.
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« Reply #227 on: August 29, 2018, 01:52:08 am »
Everton !

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« Reply #228 on: August 29, 2018, 03:37:20 am »
What a finish, gremio score in stoppage time! Penalties now

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« Reply #229 on: August 29, 2018, 11:35:08 am »

Gremio vs Estudiantes highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zICggMBHGhQ

Atl. Nacional vs Atl. Tucuman highlights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxM9HrvfU9Q

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Cruzeiro vs Flamengo - 1.45am UK
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Palmeiras vs Cerro Porteno -1.45am Fri UK

TV stations showing the games live around the world (+ great for IPTV etc) - https://www.livesoccertv.com/competitions/international/copa-libertadores/

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« Reply #230 on: August 29, 2018, 10:35:59 pm »
Is the River game on Fox Sports tonight? Tried looking on their site but it's a pile of shite.
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« Reply #231 on: August 29, 2018, 11:02:58 pm »
Is the River game on Fox Sports tonight? Tried looking on their site but it's a pile of shite.

In the US it's on FOX Soccer Match Pass, FOX Deportes - according to https://www.livesoccertv.com/match/3020147/river-plate-vs-racing-club/
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« Reply #232 on: August 30, 2018, 01:05:51 am »
some fans having a bit of a riot before the Cruzeiro v Flamengo game in Belo Horizonte for some reason, is there bad blood between these two teams?

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« Reply #233 on: August 30, 2018, 01:09:47 am »
What's happened in the River v Racing game to cause this?

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« Reply #234 on: August 30, 2018, 01:19:59 am »
^ 2 reds in the 84th minute and then another just now for racing

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« Reply #235 on: August 30, 2018, 01:24:59 am »
^ 2 reds in the 84th minute and then another just now for racing

That's what I was referring to really, looked like a full on brawl could break out and I wondered what'd made blood pressures rise.

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« Reply #236 on: August 30, 2018, 01:31:41 am »
^ I was too busy  watching the riot before the Cruzeiro v Flamengo on ESPN. I speak a bit of Portuguese but can't follow the commentators they talk too fast for me :D
 

Corinthians v Colo Colo now

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« Reply #237 on: August 30, 2018, 02:01:38 am »
Pen for Corinthians 1-0 (agg 1-1)

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« Reply #238 on: August 30, 2018, 02:09:35 am »
You wouldn't argue with this ref would you?


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« Reply #239 on: August 30, 2018, 02:17:32 am »
Corinthians 1 v 1 Colo Colo  32mins