Author Topic: Copa America 2021 : 13 June - 11 July in Brazil : Argentina win it @ Maracana (Read 49342 times)

oojason · « **on:** May 14, 2021, 02:16:20 pm »

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The 2021 Copa America takes place in Brazil - from Sunday 13th June to Sunday 11th July 2021 (UK dates & times).

The tournament was originally scheduled to take place between 12th June and 12th July 2020 - but was postponed due to the worldwide Coronavirus pandemic.

Argentina & Colombia were due to co-host the tournament - but the ongoing situation in Colombia has resulted in them withdrawing as co-hosts on 20th May:-

www.conmebol.com/es/comunicado-1 & www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57197426 & www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-57105000 & www.theguardian.com/world/colombia

On the 30th May, 2 weeks before kick off, Argentina were removed as hosts of the tournament due to the levels of Coronavirus there - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57304063.

On 31st May CONMEBOL said Brazil will now host the tournament - https://twitter.com/CONMEBOL/status/1399366306944651264 & www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57304063

The 10 teams competing in this, the 47th edition of the Copa America tournament, are...

Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay & Venezuela.

Originally it was a 12-team tournament, but the 2 teams invited to play in the 2021 Copa - Australia & Qatar - pulled out due to the Coronavirus pandemic / re-scheduling conflicts:-

www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210223-australia-qatar-pull-out-of-2021-copa-america-1 (February 2021 article)

French Guyana, Surinam and Guyana, despite being in South America, play in CONCACAF competitions (North and Central America tournaments).

There are 2 groups of 5 teams - each team playing 4 group games. The top 4 teams from each group then progress to the knockout stages; the quarter-finals, semi-finals, a 3rd place play-off game, and the Final itself.

Apart from the Final, all knockout games that finish level after 90 minutes will go straight to penalties - there will not be an extra-time period of 30 minutes.

Group A - Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay.

Group B - Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela.

2021 Copa America Playing Squads - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Copa_Am%C3%A9rica_squads

Liverpool players at the Copa America 2021 tournament are:-

Alisson - Brazil - https://twitter.com/Alissonbecker : RAWK Thread - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=340649
Bobby - Brazil - https://www.instagram.com/roberto_firmino : RAWK Thread - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=325807.0
Fabinho - Brazil - https://twitter.com/_fabinhotavares : RAWK Thread - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=340309

RAWK's 'Releasing players for internationals' thread - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=346217.0 (Covid-era thread re Liverpool players)

Fixtures (with UK dates & kick off times - click on the image to enlarge it. All games are live on the BBC in the UK - on the BBC iPlayer, BBC website or Red Button):-

^ from www.live-footballontv.com/copa-america-on-tv.html. Also see www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/copa-america/scores-fixtures/2021-06 (UK dates & times)

Fixtures & Results - all are UK dates & kick off times + some brief match highlights : ( For local kick off times - https://copaamerica.com/en/groups ):-

Group Stages...

Sun 13th June : Brazil 3 - 0 Venezuela : www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MjT-kqZP_A
Mon 14th June : Colombia 1 - 0 Ecuador : www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk4PMYcWbYo
Mon 14th June : Argentina 1 - 1 Chile : www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDrGeb6TfOU
Tue 15th June : Paraguay 3 - 1 Bolivia : www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvvWYra_7Ck

Thu 17th June : Colombia 0 - 0 Venezuela : www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XX2qAEe_yo
Fri 18th June : Peru 0 - 4 Brazil : www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCsiBjHmhcs
Fri 18th June : Chile 1 - 0 Bolivia : www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OIAHEDUa7M
Sat 19th June : Argentina 1 - 0 Uruguay : www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V2R3yqpNnQ

Sun 20th June : Venezuela 2 - 2 Ecuador : www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv9EtXtc9ZE
Mon 21st June : Colombia 1 - 2 Peru : www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvWVE41ge3A
Mon 21st June : Uruguay 1 - 1 Chile : www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jfOGdZwFe4
Tue 22nd June : Argentina 1 - 0 Paraguay : www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pUm_cJMOmE

Wed 23rd June : Ecuador 2 - 2 Peru : www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ1bh5EZdDk
Thu 24th June : Colombia 1 - 2 Brazil : www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctaa-lZG4wc
Thu 24th June : Bolivia 0 - 2 Uruguay : www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNVNPiDBpWg
Fri 25th June : Chile 0 - 2 Paraguay : www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IBoiu9kWoA

Sun 27th June : Ecuador 1 - 1 Brazil : www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOUK-Hwhsvg
Sun 27th June : Venezuela 0 - 1 Peru : www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSlqqmvlFGA
Tue 29th June : Argentina 4 - 1 Bolivia : www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbcdWaMl9Y
Tue 29th June : Uruguay 1 - 0 Paraguay : www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMna5tBFRqI

Tables / Standings - www.flashscore.co.uk/football/south-america/copa-america/standings & www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/copa-america/table

Knockout Stages - Quarter-Finals...

Friday 2nd July : Peru 3 - 3 Paraguay (Peru win 4-3 on penalties) : QF1 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZjDOpeLNRI
Saturday 3rd July : Brazil 1 - 0 Chile : QF2 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAx8BRAcjZw

Saturday 3rd July : Uruguay 0 - 0 Colombia (Colombia win 4-2 on penalties) : QF3 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZQVAf3yBRc
Sunday 4th July : Argentina 3 - 0 Ecuador : QF4 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjhlUT-IiMY

Semi-Finals...

Tuesday 6th July : Peru 0 - 1 Brazil : www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr78gDMBWC8

Wednesday 7th July : Colombia 1 - 1 Argentina (Argentina win 3-2 on penalties - https://streamwo.com/4khF6l4) : www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL1SVxj_W1M

3rd Place Play-Off...

Saturday 10th July : Peru 2 - 3 Colombia : www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTdLQ5iN4uw

The Final...

Sunday 11th July : Brazil 0 - 1 Argentina : Di Maria goal on 22' : www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tLxv5EsszA

A post with some info on the Final (line-ups, videos, goals, images, post-match etc) www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=347696.msg17850099#msg17850099

'Official 2021 Copa American Final highlights' (4 minute video):-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/6tLxv5EsszA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/6tLxv5EsszA</a>

More Final Highlights & Full-Match Replays:-

https://old.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights/comments/ohtpyn/argentina_vs_brazil_copa_america_11jul2021
www.soccercatch.com/matches/18101472/argentina-vs-brazil#media
https://hdmatches.net/2021/07/11/video-argentina-vs-brazil-highlights-full-match-11-july-2021
www.yoursoccerdose.com/18101472-brazil-vs-argentina-copa-america/#3
www.dailymotion.com/video/x82lu8b
https://eurohighlights2020.blogspot.com/2021/07/argentina-vs-brazil-10-07-2021.html

TV & Streams Info:-

All matches are live on UK TV on BBC iPlayer, BBC Website, & BBC Red Button - www.live-footballontv.com/copa-america-on-tv.html : www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57115401

TV stations in the US showing live Copa America matches - Univision (Spanish) : Fox Sports (English) : TUDN - thanks 4pool

'Copa America 2019 Final - Highlights' - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Copa_Am%C3%A9rica_Final - (3 minutes):-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/KMiA06g0lSU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/KMiA06g0lSU</a>

'CONMEBOL Copa America Winners 1916-2019' (an 'evolving graph' type video as time progresses):-

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2021, 02:39:59 pm »

Some nations have released rudimentary provisional lists of players they're taking.

No major surprises with Brazil under Tite.

Argentina's preliminary list has 50(!) players on it at present so clearly will be halved ahead of the tournament. They've mad depth in attack and there will be some quality forwards will be cut;

Icardi, Messi, Lautaro, Simeone, Correa, Suarez, Di Maria, Alario, Aguero, Dybala and Gaich are the forwards on the prelim list.

DangerScouse · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2021, 02:45:38 pm »

Brilliant stuff Jason!!

Samie · « **Reply #3 on:** May 14, 2021, 03:10:39 pm »

Sheeet, didn't realise Jason created a Copa thread.

Mods delete my half arse effort.

Alisson Wonderland · « **Reply #4 on:** May 14, 2021, 03:13:50 pm »

Brilliant opening post

The tournament structure is terrible though. Two groups of 5 with the top 4 going through leaves next to no jeopardy at all. It's only really worth watching from the knockout stages.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #5 on:** May 14, 2021, 03:19:27 pm »

Apparently the BBC is covering the event.

Samie · « **Reply #6 on:** May 14, 2021, 03:22:53 pm »

Quote from: jillc on May 14, 2021, 03:19:27 pm

Apparently the BBC is covering the event.

Yep, all the games on the BBC platforms.

leroy · « **Reply #7 on:** May 14, 2021, 03:27:03 pm »

Quote from: Alisson Wonderland on May 14, 2021, 03:13:50 pm

Brilliant opening post

The tournament structure is terrible though. Two groups of 5 with the top 4 going through leaves next to no jeopardy at all. It's only really worth watching from the knockout stages.

Australia & Qatar we're supposed to be there making groups of 6 (not that 4/6 qualifying is much better!). They had to withdraw because the AFC moved World Cup & Asian Cup qualifier games to the same period.

I think I'd rather see the Socceroos at the Copa than this World Cup to be honest.

oojason · « **Reply #8 on:** May 14, 2021, 03:58:49 pm »

Quote from: Samie on May 14, 2021, 03:10:39 pm

Sheeet, didn't realise Jason created a Copa thread.

Mods delete my half arse effort.

Sorry Samie - I began knocking this up as soon as I saw the BBC coverage announcement in the South American footy thread - and didn't see your Copa America 2021 thread.

Hopefully our mod overlords will merge them when they have time.

The official Copa America 2021 song (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Copa_Am%C3%A9rica#Official_song)...

'Cancion Oficial Copa America 2021 - La Gozadera Gente De Zona':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/bknLOIQIMg8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/bknLOIQIMg8</a>

Samie · « **Reply #9 on:** May 21, 2021, 01:41:42 pm »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57197426

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Colombia will no longer co-host the 2021 Copa America after a series of protests in the country.

The tournament was set to be held between Colombia and Argentina for the first time in its 105-year history.

There have been widespread protests against the government in Colombia, with demonstrators disrupting some Copa Libertadores matches.

The final of the 10-team tournament, which runs from 13 June-10 July, was due to be held in Barranquilla.

The South American Football Confederation (Conmebol) took the games off Colombia after previously rejecting a proposal to move them to November, saying it was "impossible".

"We guarantee the realisation of the 2021 Copa America and in the coming days will inform on the relocation of those games that were to be held in Colombia," Conmebol said.

Argentina has offered to host the entire tournament.

Protests have been ongoing in Colombia since April after the government tried to implement a controversial tax plan.

The proposal was revoked but protestors have continued to demonstrate against police brutality, poor wages and a lack of opportunities for young people.

A number of continental cup matches have been moved from Colombia to Paraguay and Ecuador because of the protests.

Colombia has also been hit hard by the coronavirus pandemic, with the death toll surpassing 83,000 this week.

Argentina is under a strict lockdown until 31 May after a new wave of cases in the country.

Brazil are defending champions from when the tournament was last held in 2019.

Every game of the tournament will be shown live on the BBC.

oojason · « **Reply #10 on:** May 21, 2021, 02:33:17 pm »

^ Aye, most strange - and Colombia requested to postpone the 2021 Copa America until November so they could host it then...

https://www.conmebol.com/es/comunicado-1 (from the 19th May)

'Before the formal request of the Colombian government to reschedule the CONMEBOL Copa América for the month of November, CONMEBOL reports the following:

For reasons related to the international calendar of competitions and the logistics of the tournament, it is impossible to transfer the Copa América 2021 to the month of November.

CONMEBOL appreciates the enthusiasm and commitment of the President of the Republic of Colombia, Mr. Iván Duque and his collaborators, as well as the President of the Colombian Soccer Federation, Ramón Jesurún, and his team. It is certain that in the future new projects will emerge together for the growth of Colombian and South American soccer.

CONMEBOL ensures the realization of the CONMEBOL Copa América 2021 and will report in the coming days the relocation of the matches that were to be played in Colombia.'

^ translated from Spanish via Google.

If Argentina have offered to stage all the games then fair play to them - though Covid rates there are a massive concern (though maybe not to CONMEBOL?)

'Colombia ruled out as hosts for 2021 Copa America due to unrest':-

www.espn.co.uk/football/copa-america/story/4390771/colombia-ruled-out-as-hosts-for-2021-copa-america-due-to-unrest

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 24, 2021, 12:30:09 am »

One of the maddest Copa America stories is that Chile are reportedly interested in calling up Blackburn's Ben Brereton to the national team. His mother is Chilean so he qualifies and according to the Chilean media he's already in the country. They're announcing their Copa America squad tomorrow.

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #12 on:** May 24, 2021, 09:35:38 pm »

Quote from: rafathegaffa83 on May 24, 2021, 12:30:09 am

One of the maddest Copa America stories is that Chile are reportedly interested in calling up Blackburn's Ben Brereton to the national team. His mother is Chilean so he qualifies and according to the Chilean media he's already in the country. They're announcing their Copa America squad tomorrow.

yes, he's been called up.

I was actually coming to ask to people who have watched Blackburn this past season (either due to Harvey Elliott or because they have a soft spot for them), how's Brereton? Is he a talent or "only" a decent guy for the level he's at?
Our NT is sorely lacking in new blood, considering our "Golden Generation" is nearing 35 and the youngsters haven't been exactly setting the world alight.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2021, 11:13:50 am »

A key health official for the City of Buenos Aires (Vice Minister of Health) is asking that Copa America be delayed for a few months due to COVID. He reckons conditions would be better in spring (around September in the Southern Hemisphere).

https://www.latercera.com/el-deportivo/noticia/gobierno-de-buenos-aires-pide-aplazar-la-copa-america-no-es-el-mejor-momento/O7IGTQHGP5E2NJPMPFMAEDOC5Y/

I'd be stunned if it was postponed, but worrying that high-ranking Argentine health officials would openly prefer a delay. For reference, Argentina has recently imposed a nine day lockdown after recording 35,000 new cases a day a week ago

oojason · « **Reply #14 on:** May 27, 2021, 02:27:49 am »

Argentina to host the entirety of the Copa America 2021 tournament on its own...

https://www.conmebol.com/es/comunicado-conmebol-copa-america-2021 (dated 26th May)

'The Argentine government presented CONMEBOL with a strict protocol for the CONMEBOL Copa América 2021 to be held in the country. In a meeting that took place in Quinta de Olivos, the organizational and logistical aspects were evaluated - with the eventual authorization of additional headquarters - and everything concerning the sanitary protocols.

The analysis of the dispute of this CONMEBOL Copa América and its health protocols so that it can be organized in the country will be under the rigorous study of officials of the Ministry of Health of the Argentine Republic. This was agreed by the President of the Argentine Republic, Alberto Fernández, and the head of CONMEBOL, Alejandro Domínguez, in a meeting today afternoon.'

^ translated via google.

It was only on the 21st May that the Argentinean domestic football competitions were postponed due to the Coronavirus...

https://bolavip.com/en/soccer/argentina-suspends-soccer-what-will-happen-with-copa-america-2021-20210521-0001.html

https://theathletic.com/news/argentina-coronavirus-covid-copa-america/rvgrWMqVriSE

mersey_paradiso · « **Reply #15 on:** May 27, 2021, 02:42:55 am »

Madness. Profit worth more than safety.

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #16 on:** May 27, 2021, 03:27:54 am »

it is madness. We're still in the middle of a goddamn pandemic here in South America.

leroy · « **Reply #17 on:** May 27, 2021, 05:48:42 am »

Melbourne has just locked down in part because infected people went to two AFL games with a collective 56,000+ people in attendance.

It's just crazy.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 27, 2021, 10:00:56 am »

Quote from: mersey_paradiso on May 27, 2021, 02:42:55 am

Madness. Profit worth more than safety.

Yep. The rumours of it being relocated to Chile or the U.S. indicated this was always likely to proceed. A look at weekly cases per 1 Million indicates Argentina currently has the fifth highest new case count globally and third highest new death count.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2021, 04:49:55 pm »

Re: James being dropped this is a great point by one of The Athletic's MLS writers who happens to be Colombian

Felipe Cárdenas@FelipeCar
New Colombia manager Reinaldo Rueda has set the tone from the start. Preferential treatment for James and other stars has seemingly ended.

Also this comes as CONMEBOL announced an increase in squad size (up to 28)

Samie · « **Reply #20 on:** May 28, 2021, 04:51:05 pm »

Man been living off that 4 week period in 2014 for seven years going now.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 28, 2021, 05:44:35 pm »

Quote from: Samie on May 28, 2021, 04:51:05 pm

Man been living off that 4 week period in 2014 for seven years going now.

Funnily enough scanning the Colombian response to the announcement, the majority are overwhelmingly happy with this call.

Common themes

- More celebrity than footballer now; that photo seemingly has not gone down well at all in Colombia, which makes sense considering what is going on domestically there. There's a sense that the photo of him on a private plane came across as being tone deaf to the country's socio-economic issues
- He's living off performances from years ago
- Constantly injured, so why bother

His letter in response to being dropped hasn't gone down well either; it's being viewed as a sign of his self-entitlement/idea the team revolves around him

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #22 on:** May 28, 2021, 07:12:18 pm »

Quote from: rafathegaffa83 on May 28, 2021, 05:44:35 pm

Funnily enough scanning the Colombian response to the announcement, the majority are overwhelmingly happy with this call.

Common themes

- More celebrity than footballer now; that photo seemingly has not gone down well at all Colombia, which makes sense considering what is going on domestically there. There's a sense that the photo of him on a private plane came across as tone deaf to the country's socio-economic issues
- He's living off performances from years ago
- Constantly injured, so why bother

His letter in response to being dropped hasn't gone down well either; it's being viewed as a sign of his self-entitlement/idea the team revolves around him

Would moving somewhere more high profile last summer have helped his cause more?

oojason · « **Reply #23 on:** May 30, 2021, 05:48:30 pm »

'As Covid brings Argentina to its knees, the choice is clear: cancel Copa América now':-

My country has been ravaged by Covid, but will still play host to an international tournament in two weeks’ time. Conmebol and Argentina president Fernández should be ashamed

www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/29/argentina-cancel-copa-america-coronavirus

4pool · « **Reply #24 on:** May 30, 2021, 06:00:02 pm »

For those in the USA, this will be on Univision ( Spanish) Fox Sports ( English.

Wabaloolah · « **Reply #25 on:** May 30, 2021, 06:10:34 pm »

Surely this tournament cannot go ahead at the moment?

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 30, 2021, 06:29:36 pm »

Quote from: MacAloolah on May 30, 2021, 06:10:34 pm

Surely this tournament cannot go ahead at the moment?

It's madness that it is. Looks like Argentine officials will confirm whether it takes place at some point this week

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #27 on:** May 30, 2021, 07:32:55 pm »

Quote from: MacAloolah on May 30, 2021, 06:10:34 pm

Surely this tournament cannot go ahead at the moment?

it cannot. It shouldn't.

Wouldn't surprise me if it does.

afc tukrish · « **Reply #28 on:** May 30, 2021, 08:22:19 pm »

Quote from: 4pool on May 30, 2021, 06:00:02 pm

For those in the USA, this will be on Univision ( Spanish) Fox Sports ( English.

Can't find it searching on XFinity, which carries both Univision/TUDN and Fox Sports.

Is it because match schedules are indeterminate with Colombia pulling out?

Think they should cancel, but if it's on I'd definitely watch. Normally a good tournament...

4pool · « **Reply #29 on:** May 30, 2021, 10:42:21 pm »

Quote from: afc turkish on May 30, 2021, 08:22:19 pm

Can't find it searching on XFinity, which carries both Univision/TUDN and Fox Sports.

Is it because match schedules are indeterminate with Colombia pulling out?

Think they should cancel, but if it's on I'd definitely watch. Normally a good tournament...

Copa America TV schedule
All times Eastern.

Sunday, June 13
05:00 pm EDT
Argentina vs. Chile
FS2, Univision, TUDN,
08:00 pm EDT
Paraguay vs. Bolivia
FS2, Univision, TUDN,

Monday, June 14
07:00 pm EDT
Brazil vs. Venezuela
FS1, UniMás, TUDN,
10:00 pm EDT
Colombia vs. Ecuador
FS1, Univision, TUDN,

Thursday, June 17
05:00 pm EDT
Chile vs. Bolivia
FS1, UniMás, TUDN,
08:00 pm EDT
Argentina vs. Uruguay
FS1, Univision, TUDN,

Friday, June 18
07:00 pm EDT
Colombia vs. Venezuela
FS2, UniMás, TUDN,
10:00 pm EDT
Peru vs. Brazil
FS2, Univision, TUDN,

Sunday, June 20
04:00 pm EDT
Uruguay vs. Chile
FS1, Univision, TUDN,
07:00 pm EDT
Argentina vs. Paraguay
FS1, Univision, TUDN,

Monday, June 21
06:00 pm EDT
Venezuela vs. Ecuador
FS1, UniMás, TUDN,
09:00 pm EDT
Colombia vs. Peru
FS1, Univision, TUDN,

Wednesday, June 23
05:00 pm EDT
Bolivia vs. Uruguay
FS1, UniMás, TUDN,
08:00 pm EDT
Chile vs. Paraguay
FS1, UniMás, TUDN,

Thursday, June 24
06:00 pm EDT
Ecuador vs. Peru
FS1, UniMás, TUDN,
09:00 pm EDT
Colombia vs. Brazil
FS1, Univision, TUDN,

Sunday, June 27
05:00 pm EDT
Argentina vs. Bolivia
FS1, Univision, TUDN,
05:00 pm EDT
Uruguay vs. Paraguay
FS1, UniMás, TUDN,

Monday, June 28
09:00 pm EDT
Ecuador vs. Brazil
FS1, Univision, TUDN,
09:00 pm EDT
Venezuela vs. Peru
FS1, UniMás, TUDN,

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #30 on:** May 30, 2021, 10:51:56 pm »

https://www.livesoccertv.com/competitions/international/copa-america/

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #31 on:** May 30, 2021, 11:11:52 pm »

Just what the world needs - an event that's guaranteed to murder 10s of millions of people.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #32 on:** May 30, 2021, 11:13:10 pm »

Quote from: Camping in a pub in Allerton on May 30, 2021, 11:11:52 pm

Just what the world needs - an event that's guaranteed to murder 10s of millions of people.

Love to see your working out.

Samie · « **Reply #33 on:** May 30, 2021, 11:15:11 pm »

Andy mate, this tournie is your godsend when the missus kicks you of of bed at 1 am in the morning.

oojason · « **Reply #34 on:** May 31, 2021, 03:11:38 am »

https://twitter.com/CONMEBOL/status/1399180028915720195

'CONMEBOL informs that in view of the present circumstances it has decided to suspend the organization of the Copa América in Argentina. CONMEBOL analyzes the offer of other countries that showed interest in hosting the continental tournament.' (translated from Spanish via google)

Edit: 'Copa América in doubt with 13 days to kick-off after Argentina removed as host':-

www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/31/copa-america-in-doubt-with-13-days-to-kick-off-after-argentina-removed-as-host & www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57304063

CONMEBOL: Okay, fine we're not doing the Copa America in Argentina, it seems that Covid thing could be a problem after all, but it will still start as scheduled.

Fans: Where are you going to host it? The tournament starts in 2 weeks...

CONMEBOL: We don't know.

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #35 on:** May 31, 2021, 03:28:03 am »

Again, they should call it off for good because it's a goddamn horrible and tone-deaf idea to do such an event in the middle of the worst fucking pandemic in a century, in countries that are *in no way, shape or form* close to containing said pandemic.

Hell, even here in Chile, despite having a high vaccination rate, we're having 8000 new cases daily on avg. It's fucking ridiculous. And it definitely wouldn't surprise me if our (right-wing) gov't decided to 'gracefully offer our country' as host just to do a fucking pantomime that "everything's fine and the worst is already behind us". I definitely expect the worst out of our fucking president.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 31, 2021, 09:59:49 am »

How much is this down to CONMEBOL not being able to meet the conditions Argentine health officials had required? I'm guessing this is the reason why they've suddenly had a change of heart.

It would be daft to offer it to Chile or Paraguay too for the same reasons as they've just taken it from Argentina. I think the next step will be to consider the U.S. as a venue as they could potentially have crowds. Just cancel it.

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #37 on:** May 31, 2021, 10:13:42 am »

One of my colleagues is from Buenos Aires and he's said it's been canned as the country is about to collapse. Covid numbers are surging, low vaccination rates and a failing economy. Not much support from locals on the tournament being forced on them when Colombia dropped the ball.

Topwings! · « **Reply #38 on:** May 31, 2021, 10:28:09 am »

No longer in Argentina. Currently no host 13 days out from competition. Hope they cancel as it will be good for Ali and Bobby (not sure if Fab has been in Brazillian squad) to have a long break following such a demanding season.

Indomitable_Carp · « **Reply #39 on:** May 31, 2021, 10:45:47 am »

Quote from: Desert Red Fox on May 31, 2021, 03:28:03 am

Again, they should call it off for good because it's a goddamn horrible and tone-deaf idea to do such an event in the middle of the worst fucking pandemic in a century, in countries that are *in no way, shape or form* close to containing said pandemic.

Hell, even here in Chile, despite having a high vaccination rate, we're having 8000 new cases daily on avg. It's fucking ridiculous. And it definitely wouldn't surprise me if our (right-wing) gov't decided to 'gracefully offer our country' as host just to do a fucking pantomime that "everything's fine and the worst is already behind us". I definitely expect the worst out of our fucking president.

Haven´t been to Chile since Christmas 2019, but I don´t know if cameras pointing at a burnt-out city centre and the inevitable protests during an international sporting event would be the best look either.

Mind you Piñera isn´t exactly known for his sharpness of mind. You are probably right that that is the sort of stupid stunt he would try and pull.