Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[Welshred]

Just been confirmed by bbc news those two are now infected and will be taken off the ship and transfer to a hospital. 

Which means that they would have been contagious during the 14 day incubation period. Just as well they werent transferred off the ship with all the other Brits on there so they could infect all of those on the same plane the rabid Tory c*nts

[Andy82lfc]

Just been confirmed by bbc news those two are now infected and will be taken off the ship and transfer to a hospital.

Yeah I just saw that!  As much as I despise tory little englanders I think quarantine is punishment enough, so hopefully they get better and rid of the virus quickly. An you never know, maybe with the services they are going to get from the amazing nurses and doctors they maybe inclined to next time vote for helping them. 

[Red James]

Poor bloke won't have Wi-Fi anymore! Just think of all the people who won't have to listen to his constant whinging plastered all over the news! Thank God 

[Dench57]

How dare this foreign disease infect our Brave Brits?

[rodderzzz]

Just been confirmed by bbc news those two are now infected and will be taken off the ship and transfer to a hospital. 

Karmas a right bitch isn’t it.

[rob1966]

Just been confirmed by bbc news those two are now infected and will be taken off the ship and transfer to a hospital. 

I love it

Will he demand that they fly doctors and nurses out who speak his language?

[JC the Messiah]

I love it

Will he demand that they fly doctors and nurses out who speak his language?

He probably demands that when he's in the UK.  Bloody foreigners, coming over here, saving our lives.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Well the good news is that the stranded British passengers are finally getting to board a flight home. They'll be quaranteend in the Wirral for another 2 weeks.

Glad they are finally getting home (Regardless of what or who they voted for)

[TSC]

Italy has now closed schools, public buildings, restaurants and coffee shops in 10 towns across northern Italy as infected numbers have risen to 19. 

Within the UK the NHS has announced it will now pilot tests at home, where NHS staff will come to carry out the testing on folk in their homes.  Said pilot will initially start in London.

[thejbs]

It’s spread to the Middle East. Cases in Israel, Iran, Lebanon, iraq etc

[CHOPPER]

Now I'm not saying we should worry right now, but PANIC!!!!!


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/22/coronavirus-asymptomatic-wuhan-woman-shows-why-outbreak-will-be-hard-to-stop

[[new username under construction]]

Now I'm not saying we should worry right now, but PANIC!!!!!


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/22/coronavirus-asymptomatic-wuhan-woman-shows-why-outbreak-will-be-hard-to-stop

On the other hand

Initially, the young woman tested negative for the virus, but a follow-up test was positive.

So maybe just a mistake?

[CraigDS]

Is it time for me to buy up all the bottled water and tinned goods I can lay my hands on and brick up my doors and windows?

[CHOPPER]

On the other hand

Initially, the young woman tested negative for the virus, but a follow-up test was positive.

So maybe just a mistake?

Doubt it.


The Chinese will take the biggest hit(as of now) but they will also be ahead with robust testing measures and leading in how to control and hopefully contain. So whilst I'd like to think it could be a mistake, all options and outcomes must be considered, the above, being one.

[CHOPPER]

Is it time for me to buy up all the bottled water and tinned goods I can lay my hands on and brick up my doors and windows?

After your performances on here Craig, I thought you'd be doing that already?

[CraigDS]

After your performances on here Craig, I thought you'd be doing that already?

No, I still venture out after dark currently.

[CHOPPER]

No, I still venture out after dark currently.

Start wearing a mask from now on then.

[CraigDS]

Start wearing a mask from now on then.

Does my Pickford mask count? He doesn’t seem to be able to catch anything.

[King Kenny 7]

Does my Pickford mask count? He doesn’t seem to be able to catch anything.

Lol, nice one!   

[TSC]

Northern Italy towns also suspended all public gatherings and sporting events for now apparently. 

[classycarra]

It’s spread to the Middle East. Cases in Israel, Iran, Lebanon, iraq etc

Believe the Israel case was on the Japanese Cruise. Case in Egypt and unsurprisingly cases in UAE too though

[CHOPPER]

Israel, today.......

[killer-heels]

Already purchased the barb wire and land mines for the front of the house.

[killer-heels]

Believe the Israel case was on the Japanese Cruise. Case in Egypt and unsurprisingly cases in UAE too though

Seems to have been a bit of an explosion around the world in the past few days.

Can imagine the next few weeks being particularly bad.

Lock down the world.

[Linudden]

Now I'm not saying we should worry right now, but PANIC!!!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/22/coronavirus-asymptomatic-wuhan-woman-shows-why-outbreak-will-be-hard-to-stop

If anything, this should comfort you in that if many people carry the virus without even getting sick, mortality upon contracting the virus is even lower than previously thought. If a poor region of China has kept mortality rates of open carriers at 2-3 %, then it's bound to be even lower in wealthy countries with a lot higher water quality etc.

WHO should be concerned about it reaching Africa though, because those countries' infrastructure and healthcare systems make China seem like Switzerland. Only Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt would be remotely prepared to deal with it. That being said, flu doesn't tend to spread well in warmer weather and that might just be why it hasn't taken off in SE Asia. Wuhan instead has winters largely similar to London.

Still, you'd have to consider that even in Wuhan's case, a small proportion of the population have contracted the virus. Then, there will always be people who stay at home and don't report their illness to anyone. That brings the mortality rate down even further.

In real terms: 0.15 % of Wuhan's population have been reporting to hospital for the illness, and overall 1 in 16,271 people dwelling in the city have died from it. That is actually really low when doing the math. So far there's 3 deaths from 151 cases in Europe + the anglosphere, which is a slightly lower gradient than in China (1.9 %). None of the three were healthy prior to contracting the virus. I suspect once the sample size is higher, this European/Anglosphere number will further decrease.

It's also worth nothing that the five richest East Asian countries (Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore) have had 6 deaths from 751 cases. That is merely 0.8 % of the infected. That's what I'd be looking at soon for Europe and the rest of the western world.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Probably been mentioned, but I don't get why supposedly professional News organisations keep repeating the bollocks about people being sent to Merseyside for quarantene.

They probably should go and buy a map.

[classycarra]

Probably been mentioned, but I don't get why supposedly professional News organisations keep repeating the bollocks about people being sent to Merseyside for quarantene.

They probably should go and buy a map.

You might want to consult the map you're using. Note that there is land at both sides of the Mersey. The Wirral is in Merseyside.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

You might want to consult the map you're using. Note that there is land at both sides of the Mersey. The Wirral is in Merseyside.

Pah. They wish. Tunnel rats!

[Millie]

Nah  Arrowe Park Hospital is definitely in Merseyside.

[CraigDS]

Meant to be looking at going to Florence in mid-April to see my gf’s sister who lives there, but not too sure if to bother now...!

[Jiminy Cricket]

Meant to be looking at going to Florence in mid-April to see my gf’s sister who lives there, but not too sure if to bother now...!

I imagine (or it could be) that coronavirus will be truly pandemic by then. So, it might not matter much where you are. Though, there is always an elevated risk when travelling (enclosed spaces with fellow travellers). But, in the end, perhaps most of us might end up being exposed sometime*, at somewhere.

* If the suggestion that there may be large numbers of asymptomatic carriers turns out to be correct. This might be be good news in the round.

[Linudden]

It still bemuses me why everyone's losing their heads over this.

CDC stats for US regular flu cases last decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

2010-11: 37 k deaths in 10 mil medical visits.
2011-12: 12 k deaths in 4.3 mil visits.
2012-13: 43 k deaths in 16 mil visits.
2013-14: 38 k deaths in 13 mil visits.
2014-15: 51 k deaths in 14 mil visits.
2015-16: 23 k deaths in 11 mil visits.
2016-17: 38 k deaths in 14 mil visits.
2017-18: 61 k deaths in 21 mil visits.
2018-19: 34 k deaths in 16.5 mil visits.

By using the medical visits number this is the closest comparison one can have to the Corona virus. By looking at people hospitalized instead, standard mortality rate was like this:

2010-11: 12.8 %
2011-12: 8.6 %
2012-13: 7.5 %
2013-14: 10.9 %
2014-15: 8.6 %
2015-16: 8.2 %
2016-17: 7.6 %
2017-18: 7.5 %
2018-19: 7.0 %

Those numbers are rather higher, but only because regular flu is not considered something usually requiring hospitalization. Since precautions are currently taken, everyone is admitted to isolation or hospitalization, which skews numbers, but among people who actually need care, I struggle to see mortality rates as in grave cases being higher than these numbers.

In nine years, that means that 337 k US residents died because of regular flu and it affected a vastly higher proportion of the populace than this has done even in Hubei. Sure, mortality numbers per capita were lower, but based on this, people need to take a chill pill unless they are elder citizens or have serious underlying medical issues already. The worst year saw 1 in 500 Americans succumb to the flu. When breaking down the numbers over many millions of people suddenly it looks a lot scarier than it's been.

[classycarra]

It still bemuses me why everyone's losing their heads over this.

CDC stats for US regular flu cases last decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

2010-11: 37 k deaths in 10 mil medical visits.
2011-12: 12 k deaths in 4.3 mil visits.
2012-13: 43 k deaths in 16 mil visits.
2013-14: 38 k deaths in 13 mil visits.
2014-15: 51 k deaths in 14 mil visits.
2015-16: 23 k deaths in 11 mil visits.
2016-17: 38 k deaths in 14 mil visits.
2017-18: 61 k deaths in 21 mil visits.
2018-19: 34 k deaths in 16.5 mil visits.

In nine years, that means that 337 k US residents died because of regular flu and it affected a vastly higher proportion of the populace than this has done even in Hubei. Sure, mortality numbers per capita were lower, but based on this, people need to take a chill pill unless they are elder citizens or have serious underlying medical issues already. The worst year saw 1 in 500 Americans succumb to the flu. When breaking down the numbers over many millions of people suddenly it looks a lot scarier than it's been.

While I agree there's no cause for panic in the UK it seems pretty clear you don't understand infectious diseases much, if at all, based on that comparison. There's quite a lot more to it than numbers.

Also who's losing their heads?

[Linudden]

Also who's losing their heads?

The media, and thus the general populaces. All of the evidence points towards it being only slightly more harmful than regular flu, yet it's treated like everyone's going to die by many people.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

While I agree there's no cause for panic in the UK it seems pretty clear you don't understand infectious diseases much, if at all, based on that comparison. There's quite a lot more to it than numbers.

Also who's losing their heads?

That'll be the "Sleepy Hollow" mutation

[classycarra]

The media, and thus the general populaces. All of the evidence points towards it being only slightly more harmful than regular flu, yet it's treated like everyone's going to die by many people.

Bit hyperbolic, no? Where are the general populaces going crazy?

I don't think you're exceptional here, in not losing your head.

[TSC]

The media, and thus the general populaces. All of the evidence points towards it being only slightly more harmful than regular flu, yet it's treated like everyone's going to die by many people.

This could (hopefully not) become a global pandemic, so probably apt the media highlights the spread and how to protect self against infection.

South Korea has declared highest alert following recent influx of infections and some deaths, and now over 100 infected in Italy apparently.

[El Lobo]

It still bemuses me why everyone's losing their heads over this.

Bizarre

[Linudden]

Bizarre

Great to see you, long time no speak my friend

Since a good laugh is said to prolong life expectancy, I'm glad to help in times like these!

[Mister Flip Flop]

Meant to be looking at going to Florence in mid-April to see my gf’s sister who lives there, but not too sure if to bother now...!

They've started cancelling top flight matches over there now