Topic: Line of Duty

[Kashinoda]

Mmmmm fantastic apart from...

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The shooting within the AC12 office with him just wakling out, didn't seem very realistic that. They could have achieved the same thing a thousand other ways.

Still, the interviews again were incredibly enthralling. Loved it.

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[The Gulleysucker]

Top notch and fantastic compelling viewing, but yes I'd agree with that.

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It seems churlish to nitpick on such a superb and high quality series, but like yourself, the only thing that stretched credibility a bit too far for me and slightly spoilt the tale was that whole sequence of the armed guard opening fire in the office to allow the baddie to escape, it just seemed unneccessarily contrived, unrealistic and over dramatic.

And then at the end of that chase when she shot at the moving Range Rover, from the side and at range, and having just run a fair old distance to chase it, and yet somehow hit the driver, and all without tracking the vehicle through the sights. A little bit too Hollywood for me. Even Craig Harrison would have difficulty doing that.

I wonder if rather than that extended episode to wrap it all up, they instead should have had two one hour ones as after the phenomenally high quality of the previous episodes, to me it just seemed slightly disappointing and a bit of a rush job to fit all the explanations, attempt to tie up loose ends and then have that slightly far fetched but time convenient denouement into the one and half hours.

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[Kashinoda]

Top notch and fantastic compelling viewing, but yes I'd agree with that.

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It seems churlish to nitpick on such a superb and high quality series, but like yourself, the only thing that stretched credibility a bit too far for me and slightly spoilt the tale was that whole sequence of the armed guard opening fire in the office to allow the baddie to escape, it just seemed unneccessarily contrived, unrealistic and over dramatic.

And then at the end of that chase when she shot at the moving Range Rover, from the side and at range, and having just run a fair old distance to chase it, and yet somehow hit the driver, and all without tracking the vehicle through the sights. A little bit too Hollywood for me. Even Craig Harrison would have difficulty doing that.

I wonder if rather than that extended episode to wrap it all up, they instead should have had two one hour ones as after the phenomenally high quality of the previous episodes, to me it just seemed slightly disappointing and a bit of a rush job to fit all the explanations, attempt to tie up loose ends and then have that slightly far fetched but time convenient denouement into the one and half hours.

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If we're being picky here she does track the vehicle for a good 10 meters before taking the shot

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[The Gulleysucker]

In my defence, I had been drinking a bit last night prior to watching it...
I'll have to rewatch that bit.

[oldfordie]

That was gripping... we were so tense afterwards we had to watch the Channel 5 'Secret life of puppies' to calm us down before going to bed!

[oldfordie]

Mmmmm fantastic apart from...

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The shooting within the AC12 office with him just wakling out, didn't seem very realistic that. They could have achieved the same thing a thousand other ways.

Still, the interviews again were incredibly enthralling. Loved it.

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Of course but this is also about setting up another series.
Dot has friends in very high places, that exit was not impromptu. everything was planned to the finest detail. what would have happened if he had not been rescued by force, he would have been arrested in that room and locked up, the evidence would have sent him down and who knows what he would have revealed and that's for the next series. Dot just being arrested and locked without us knowing his secrets still would have been a good ending but it wouldn't have shown just what's in store for the next series. I was wondering were Dot was running too. the car knocking over Flemming showed he knew someone was going to be waiting for him at a prearranged location to be rescued and probably taken out the country. he never got to that location but his every move was followed by the people in the car. all that could only have been orginised by very powerful people. the next series will cover that.

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[Kashinoda]

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Of course but this is also about setting up another series.
Dot has friends in very high places, that exit was not impromptu. everything was planned to the finest detail. what would have happened if he had not been rescued by force, he would have been arrested in that room and locked up, the evidence would have sent him down and who knows what he would have revealed and that's for the next series. Dot just being arrested and locked without us knowing his secrets still would have been a good ending but it wouldn't have shown just what's in store for the next series. I was wondering were Dot was running too. the car knocking over Flemming showed he knew someone was going to be waiting for him at a prearranged location to be rescued and probably taken out the country. he never got to that location but his every move was followed by the people in the car. all that could only have been orginised by very powerful people. the next series will cover that.

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I don't disagree with the outcome, or find the outcome out of the realms of possibility. It's the method of execution which really contrived, and out of scope with how (relatively) grounded the show is.

It's well known he had others on the inside to help him, there could have been plenty of other ways for him to slip through and make a great escape. Shooting another copper directly outside the interrogation and walking out of a secure building seemed a bit OTT.

That's not a slight on the show, it's just when something is so good you tend to hyper-analyse things a bit more than usual.

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[oldfordie]

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I don't disagree with the outcome, or find the outcome out of the realms of possibility. It's the method of execution which really contrived, and out of scope with how (relatively) grounded the show is.

It's well known he had others on the inside to help him, there could have been plenty of other ways for him to slip through and make a great escape. Shooting another copper directly outside the interrogation and walking out of a secure building seemed a bit OTT.

That's not a slight on the show, it's just when something is so good you tend to hyper-analyse things a bit more than usual.

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Hyper analyze when it's a who done it that leaves many clues. isn't that part of the enjoyment. I know full well this fiction . the whole part of the enjoyment is looking for clues when the writers have obviously left clues, that's what makes the show so incredibly well written.
Now we can let that flow over us and just sit back and let everything be revealed or take the challenge the writers leave of trying to work out all the many clues before the ending is revealed.
My view was it was a brilliant ending and I gave my reasons why. you think the writers ruined it by being OTT. fine.

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[Kashinoda]

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At no point did I say they ruined it, just that it felt out of place in the grand scheme of things.

If there were more people on the inside (which there were) they could have contrived more cunning way of hatching an escape for Cotton, maybe whilst he was in escort after? We saw this in the second series on two occasions.

Ultimately you would get to same ending, but perhaps you could have had Arnett have a final confrontation with Cotton also... which would have been fitting after he spent the entire series suspicious of him and putting many of the pieces together.

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[oldfordie]

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At no point did I say they ruined it, just that it felt out of place in the grand scheme of things.

If there were more people on the inside (which there were) they could have contrived more cunning way of hatching an escape for Cotton, maybe whilst he was in escort after? We saw this in the second series on two occasions.

Ultimately you would get to same ending, but perhaps you could have had Arnett have a final confrontation with Cotton also... which would have been fitting after he spent the entire series suspicious of him and putting many of the pieces together.

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Well ive no problem with any of your points but to be called for over analyzing is a bit much,I could answer why I think the writers endings better but best leaving it. 

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[Buck Pete]

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Well ive no problem with any of your points but to be called for over analyzing is a bit much,I could answer why I think the writers endings better but best leaving it. 

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I don't think Kashinoda was accusing YOU personally of over analysing it.

The way I read it he was saying he himself over analyses things when they are so good.

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I agree the ending was a bit Hollywood but it was still good.

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[Kashinoda]

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Well ive no problem with any of your points but to be called for over analyzing is a bit much,I could answer why I think the writers endings better but best leaving it. 

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I was calling myself out on over-analysing it mate

Anyway, great show let's leave it at that

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[oldfordie]

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I was calling myself out on over-analysing it mate

Anyway, great show let's leave it at that

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An sorry Kashinoda. me jumping to the wrong conclussions.

[Pheeny]

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I watched the show this afternoon,I was alone,during the chase at the end I found my self shouting " Should the bastard will ya Lol "

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[oldfordie]

I don't think Kashinoda was accusing YOU personally of over analysing it.

The way I read it he was saying he himself over analyses things when they are so good.

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I agree the ending was a bit Hollywood but it was still good.

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It did look dramatic didn't it but I think it was well thought out. the plan was for Dot to face the questioning in the hope of stitching Arnott up and the heats off for all the pervs. the plan was set up for the rescue if needed and the text set that in motion as we saw, he shot the armed policeman first with no warning. he then shot into the room allowing Dot to escape and off they went with no resistance, what would they have done if they allowed him to be arrested and taken into custody, he would have been held in that police station for how long answering questions, rescuing him from a locked police cell, they would have to come into the police station all guns blazing to do that and that's a bit much. they knew just how ruthless these people were so he would have been held in custody and then escorted under a armed police guard to an unknown destination at any time. so not only would it be a battle ,they would have to know when and where they could rescue him. so the scene was dramatic but added up for me. that was the best time to do it.
All the way through these series they have made the baddy into a goody the next series. I thought it would be impossible with Dot. thought that was brilliant writing again last night. 

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[Mag Hull]

Am going to have to watch last episode again just for the sheer brilliance of both interview scenes - been with this since first series - amazed how Jed Mecurio pulled this together.

Based on this weeks events however, I'd forgive people who thought they were watching a documentary........

[Mutton Geoff]

superb episode last night and Peaky Blinders replacing it next week the BBC is having an epic year of Drama

[John C]

superb episode last night and Peaky Blinders replacing it next week the BBC is having an epic year of Drama

Not relevant to the thread, but ITV have head hunted the BBC Head of Drama

As you were.

[Pheeny]

Not relevant to the thread, but ITV have head hunted the BBC Head of Drama

As you were.

You've still not the hang of this "Mod" thing have you,members of Staff can say what they like where they like...

[jillcwhomever]

Not relevant to the thread, but ITV have head hunted the BBC Head of Drama

As you were.

I read about that and I wasn't pleased. The BBC has got enough to contend with without people running off to ITV. Having said that I am confident they will still out do ITV's drama, as long as writers like Jed Mercurio stay with the BBC.

[Alan_X]

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To be fair, the shooting in the station had been set up throughout the series. The series was about firearms officers and we had already learnt and accepted that Hari, on instructions from Dot/the Caddy had killed Danny in cold blood and in the presence of others.

Dot wasn't the leader, he's just a water carrier, so it's reasonable in the context of the show that someone higher up would do what Dot has been doing throughout. 

The only nagging thing for me was that the armed officers were there for Dot's interrogation. They'd been there for the interrogations of other firearms officers but why Dot? When it all kicked off it meant that the firearms officers had been put their for just that event.

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[capt k]

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What a great show, i feasted on all 3 series over the last 4-5 days, i agree about the shooting in AC 12 office being a bit far fetched, but other than that i thought it was gripping viewing.

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[Alf]

How good was law weeks episode. Only just started watching this series, another outstanding performance from Vicky McClure.

[Buck Pete]

Quick question about season 3 finale guys if someone could explain to me please

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I didn't quite understand what went on in regards to the File on Ronan Murphy that was given to MILF Gill by Dot.

What was the significance of this file and how did it implicate Dot as dodgy. Why was Ted so wound up that Dot had given the file directly to Gill?

cheers

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[capt k]

Quick question about season 3 finale guys if someone could explain to me please

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I didn't quite understand what went on in regards to the File on Ronan Murphy that was given to MILF Gill by Dot.

What was the significance of this file and how did it implicate Dot as dodgy. Why was Ted so wound up that Dot had given the file directly to Gill?

cheers

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I thought it was doctored so they couldnt make the association with high ranking cops and pollies being involved in child exploitation {seeing as murphy was abusing boys  and Tommy had photos of Dryden and Carly{15 yr old}, isnt a stretch to think there was photos of others with boys}
And Ted was pissed of, that he was being bypassed by one of his juniors,

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[Red_Mist]

Finally watched the last episode and it was great as usual. The penultimate one pipped it for me in terms of tension but we were still glued to it throughout.

[Yiannis]

superb episode last night and Peaky Blinders replacing it next week the BBC is having an epic year of Drama

Happy Valley preceded Line of Duty which now precedes Peaky Blinders. And that's the ones I know about. Excellence in all of them.

[Trev20]

Thought the last 20 minutes of the final episode were absolute shite.

[sinnermichael]

Series 5 has been commissioned.

It's moving to BBC1 aswell.

[Shabby14]

Likewise, also watched all three series over the last few days. I've never been in to British dramas, but pleasantly surprised.

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I thought it was weird that the show hinted, or the creators made you think that somehow Hastings was involved in the child abuse ring, or something like that, due to the handshake.
And Lindsey creeps me out, I'm still confused as to whether she was innocent or guilty or what.

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[Buck Pete]

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And Lindsey creeps me out, I'm still confused as to whether she was innocent or guilty or what.

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She was guilty alright. She took 50k but thought they were just going to hand Tommy Hunter over to the gangsters.

in fairness though. She didn't know they were gonna kill everyone that night and she did also try and abort at the last minute.

I'm still a bit confused how Lindsay was on duty the night of the ambush. I thought she was called in from an emergency roster. How did they know Lindsay would be on duty that night and to go ahead with the ambush plan?

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[Trev20]

Lindsay Denton was unbearable. Couldn't stand the actresses voice.

Good old Dot 

[Shabby14]

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She was guilty alright. She took 50k but thought they were just going to hand Tommy Hunter over to the gangsters.

in fairness though. She didn't know they were gonna kill everyone that night and she did also try and abort at the last minute.

I'm still a bit confused how Lindsay was on duty the night of the ambush. I thought she was called in from an emergency roster. How did they know Lindsay would be on duty that night and to go ahead with the ambush plan?

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Right got it, cheers.

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I thought there was something going on with Hastings, like the battle, with the weird handshake? They never persued it, and nothing was discovered, season 4 maybe?
Also I expected more to come from Flemings affair with the deceased coppers husband, but that also fizzled out.
Glad that the Caddy side of things is wrapped up now.

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[jillcwhomever]

This great show can't return soon enough, starting to film next week. 


Line of Duty series 4: Thandie Newton to play cop under investigation in BBC series
The Westworld actor follows in the footsteps of Lennie James and Keeley Hawes

Each new series of BBC procedural series Line of Duty focuses on a fresh anti-corruption investigation placing the spotlight on a new suspected character.

Previous characters to have clashed with AC-12 include Lennie James' DCI Tony Gates, Keeley Hawes' DI Lindsay Denton and Sgt. Danny Waldron (Daniel Mays).

The actor tasked with playing the suspect in the drama's fourth series has been named as Thandie Newton; she will play Roz Huntley, a DCI who - when episode one begins - finds herself in the middle of a career-defining case.

Speaking about her appointment, Newton - who will next be seen in HBO series Westworld - said: "I watched the last three seasons of Line of Duty with breathless admiration for its creators, both behind and in front of the camera. I couldn't be more thrilled to be joining them now."

Returning to the series are Martin Compston as DS Steve Arnott, Vicky McClure as DC Kate Fleming and Adrian Dunbar as Superintendant Ted Hastings.

Joining the cast alongside Newton are Jason Watkins, Lee Ingleby and Royce Pierrson.

Upon its debut in 2012, Line of Duty - created by Jed Mercurio - became BBC Two's most-watched original drama in ten years. The channel handed it a further two series following a critically successful second run - with another two commissioned to air on BBC One. 

Filming on series 4 begins in Belfast next week with an expected air date of 2018. Mercurio is also working on Bodyguard, a new BBC series about a volatile war veteran

[sinnermichael]

BBC One
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Who polices the police? #LineOfDuty. Coming soon to @BBCOne.




 

[Trev20]

 

It should be great.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Yessssss great news this.

[RedSince86]

Great casting.she is fantastic in Westworld.

One of the BBC's best shows.

[jillcwhomever]

I cannot wait for this. She will be a great edition to the cast as well.

[sinnermichael]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GMnloEl1sM