Topic: Winning Title #19*

[CHOPPER]

Not quite. If no one can level or overhaul your points tally then you win the title before the final game.

You can't be caught, but you always win it in the final game. Thats when its won, thats when it matters, thats when you are champions.


Then we can sing "Bring on the Champions"


Enough anyway, we're still only earning the right. we've won fuck all. Burn this thread.

[Sudden Death Draft Loser]

Hodgson as my first manager of the club to where we are now is remarkable.

What's even more remarkable is that you started supporing a team with Hodgson as manager.

[Crosby Nick]

What's even more remarkable is that you started supporing a team with Hodgson as manager.

Fucking gory Hunter.

[rob1966]

8 games in, not even thinking about winning the league, it is far far too early.

1985-86 Atkinsons Mancs won their first ten games, were 15 points clear of us, went unbeaten for the first 15 games, the media gave them the title in I think the October, it was all done and dusted. They then lost 10 of the remaining 27, finishing in 4th, 12pts behind the Champions, ie us.

I'll revisit this thread in February 2020, hopefully with us having a larger gap than 8pts.

[Jm55]

As fans of the club we are allowed to get ahead of ourselves.

It always amazes me when people adopt this sensible attitude of one game at a time - that’s for the players, its absolutely fine for us to get ahead of ourselves and start dreaming of lifting the title up in May - especially when we haven’t won it in 30 years.

8 points obviously can be overcome,  but barring some implosion, City are going to have to be nigh on perfect to do it, there’s very little room for manoeuvre for them now.

[SteveZissou]

Baby step to the next Premier League game.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

The great thing is that the players have experience in this from last season and that can only do them a world of good. They're mentality monsters as it is, we just need to stay fit and healthy, and do what we have so far, some luck along the way.

[Barneylfc∗]

Not getting too ahead of myself but if we do win, it will be  procession, wrapped up with plenty games to spare

Pretty certain you declared after City lost to Newcastle last season that it was over 

[Clayton Bigsby]

Pretty certain you declared after City lost to Newcastle last season that it was over 

I did and got burned for £300

No money on this time but much more faith than I had last year

[PaulKS]

Very confident this season, I wasn't last season.

We will extend our lead further...

[Korbflechter]

As fans of the club we are allowed to get ahead of ourselves.

It always amazes me when people adopt this sensible attitude of one game at a time - that’s for the players, its absolutely fine for us to get ahead of ourselves and start dreaming of lifting the title up in May - especially when we haven’t won it in 30 years.

8 points obviously can be overcome,  but barring some implosion, City are going to have to be nigh on perfect to do it, there’s very little room for manoeuvre for them now.

Yes, but getting ahead of oneself has been the reason why every title challenge in those 30 years has been even more upsetting in the end. And I'm pretty sure that the anxiety among the supporters when seeing the finish line in 2014 transferred to the players, who couldn't handle the pressure of those like 25 years on their shoulders.
There's so much joy in anticipating the next game, why anticipate an almost entire season? At least for me, the prospect of potentially handing the Mancs an absolute downer is very entertaining. 

[Barneylfc∗]

8 games in, not even thinking about winning the league, it is far far too early.


I'll revisit this thread in February 2020, hopefully with us having a larger gap than 8pts.

Pretty much it in a nutshell. Ridiculous that people are thinking about this in the first week of October.

[harleydanger]

This thread is bad juju

[bornandbRED]

We just have to keep focusing on the next game as they come. 8 games in is fuck all. Many hurdles lay ahead.

Would be nice if we can thread more than the usual 3 passes together at Old Trafford in a couple of weeks.

[Son of Spion]

As fans of the club we are allowed to get ahead of ourselves.

It always amazes me when people adopt this sensible attitude of one game at a time - that’s for the players, its absolutely fine for us to get ahead of ourselves and start dreaming of lifting the title up in May - especially when we haven’t won it in 30 years.

8 points obviously can be overcome,  but barring some implosion, City are going to have to be nigh on perfect to do it, there’s very little room for manoeuvre for them now.

Or course. Fans can and always will do things in their own way.

Me personally, I've learned to adopt the game by game approach. I just don't see the value in building myself up only to fall hard if it doesn't pan out. That's the kind of thing Everton fans do every single pre-season, and we all know the perpetual misery they live in.

I've seen us lift loads of titles and also seen us blow a number of others too. I'm too long in the tooth to get ahead of myself, although I understand why many others are perfectly happy to do so. 

[ac]

Very confident this season, I wasn't last season.

We will extend our lead further...

The experience of last season where we failed to build on our lead and then see City win game after game will help. Yes we will stutter because of the pressure but City aren't as good as last year and we are better than last year so I expect us to win the league

[Red Beret]

It's been a long time since we even managed back to back title challenges.  At this stage of the season I'd still only describe us as the pace setters.  Need another half dozen games at least before we can talk about a title challenge.

This is an exciting time to be a Liverpool fan but I want to manage my expectations.

[kesey]

Pretty much this. I'd take half a goal right now victory if possible, we've been so poor there in recent years it's frustrating. Last year in particular we didn't show up. 

I'd quite happily take a draw although a propper snotting would be nice . Maybe Iam being too sensible headed or being a shithouse but one thing life has taught me is. Never stick your chin out and never be over confident. That's two things actually but one thing at the same time.

[Filler.]

Highly unlikely- this place will be one to avoid when we lose a league game sadly

It really shouldn't be. Genuinely don't get talk of being unbeaten... not an interest of mine anyway.

It's been a great start, and that is it. We WILL drop points this season. We will have injury concerns and we will need to juggle competitions. We may have a bad patch.. may have two. So might City. Not getting carried away at all.

[kesey]

I've seen us lift loads of titles and also seen us blow a number of others too. I'm too long in the tooth to get ahead of myself, although I understand why many others are perfectly happy to do so. 

Do you remember the ' We're Forever Blowing Doubles ' flag after the 1989 Cup Final ? It was at the homecoming . Maybe it was 1988 after the Wimbledon final. Not sure .

[Son of Spion]

Do you remember the ' We're Forever Blowing Doubles ' flag after the 1989 Cup Final ? It was at the homecoming . Maybe it was 1988 after the Wimbledon final. Not sure .

I can't remember the flag, but I do remember the song. Not sure if it was after Arsenal in 89 or Wimbledon in 88, though.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

I'd quite happily take a draw although a propper snotting would be nice . Maybe Iam being too sensible headed or being a shithouse but one thing life has taught me is. Never stick your chin out and never be over confident. That's two things actually but one thing at the same time.

One thing is for certain is that the players and manager won't be doing either one based on everything we know

[kesey]

I can't remember the flag, but I do remember the song. Not sure if it was after Arsenal in 89 or Wimbledon in 88, though.

Maybe it was a song and not a flag.  Memories and experiences  and all that merging into one.

Iam still copus mentis though which aint bad for a seven year old.

[kesey]

One thing is for certain is that the players and manager won't be doing either one based on everything we know

And that is good and that's why we love him.

[MNAA]

Next up. Man Utd at Old Trafford. 3 points ... that’s all that I am asking for now. I am hoping that as much as Klopp/we respect them, we will play knowing fully well that we’re more than capable of spanking them

Beyond that we shall see. It’s October, 8 games in - we should be confident but it’s way too early to be talking about winning the league. I am superstitious ... and won’t do anything that can jinxed us

[Marty 85]

I came onto the forum and immediately searched for "chasing pack" to try and find this thread from last year as it was about time this years version was posted.

The only reason people are erring on the side of caution, and rightly so, is because of who we're up against. We've yet to win the league in the premiership era and get that monkey off our back but maybe that's to do with the fact we've came close before and faltered. More than that, I think it's to do with with the fact we're up against Peps City side.

Any other title race with 8 wins and an 8 point gap would've have given up hope. Bookies would be paying out by now. Chelsea 3 years ago had that feeling.

Leicester did the same but because of their status and inexperience everyone expected them to falter.

Our form is no flash in the pan. If we lose 3 or 4 key players and lose the league then so be it but we'll be back and we will win it eventually.

It's been only a matter of time for a couple of years now. 08/09 or 13/14 you could've argued were a perfect storm with the resources we had but this has been coming.

Regardless, we're out in front and we should enjoy this because this is where we'll stay. The enjoyment of the win is short lived, the fun is in the journey that we're on now.

Edit - you can give it the big one about not looking past the next game etc and I get it but we're supporters, we dont need to be focused on the opponent. As supporters it's better if we get whipped up in the hysteria and shout and sing at every game and pass that support and confidence onto the players because they'll thrive on it.

[Barneylfc∗]

The only reason people are erring on the side of caution, and rightly so, is because of who we're up against. We've yet to win the league in the premiership era and get that monkey off our back but maybe that's to do with the fact we've came close before and faltered. More than that, I think it's to do with with the fact we're up against Peps City side.

With all due respect mate, that's nonsense. I speak for me and me only, but I'm erring on the side of caution because there are 30 games left. More than 3 quarters of the season. We could be being chased by Barnsley, and I'd still have the same attitude. You may be correct in that someone else is only wary of celebrating in October because of City, but not everyone.

[Koplord]

can’t comprehend the start we have had even more when I look at the points like this.

From the next 30 games 90 points available:

We need 66 from 90 to achieve 90 Points
We need 76 from 90 to achieve 100 points

How fucking crazy Is that ?

[Marty 85]

With all due respect mate, that's nonsense. I speak for me and me only, but I'm erring on the side of caution because there are 30 games left. More than 3 quarters of the season. We could be being chased by Barnsley, and I'd still have the same attitude. You may be correct in that someone else is only wary of celebrating in October because of City, but not everyone.

I speak more from the perspective of a neutral watching other seasons being played out and how the general media report on them too Barney. I'm not getting carried away but given Cities injuries and our form I think the bookies have the odds bang on.

All my uncles are so pessimistic and cynical after all the seconds of the years they will refuse to believe it until mathematically it's in the the bag. I'm 34 and can remember all the seconds but I'm not that pessimistic. Could argue age probably doesn't even come into it as much as your general outlook?

My message is to those people. It's meant to be enjoyable and they should drink it in now.

[vagabond]

By all means be cautious. But go find another thread then.

In this thread we dine on the best Liverpool team of our lifetimes, sing its praises, and get on the hype train without a second's thought.

[jckliew]

Too early. Too early.

[Brissyred]

1985-86 Atkinsons Mancs won their first ten games, were 15 points clear of us, went unbeaten for the first 15 games, the media gave them the title in I think the October, it was all done and dusted. They then lost 10 of the remaining 27, finishing in 4th, 12pts behind the Champions, ie us.

I was working in mancland back then, the stick I was getting was worth it for the end result. As we reeled them in I became more end more smug, good times footy wise....

[Nogg3000]

Think Souness said a few years ago you generally need to lose one before you can win one - hope that’s true from last year. The boys look on a mission.

[NarutoReds]

I have already come to terms with our current team, even Hodgson could bring us to the league title.

[Zoomers]

Think Souness said a few years ago you generally need to lose one before you can win one - hope that’s true from last year. The boys look on a mission.

That's what happened with the CL for us.

Also although we do have a nice 8 point lead, I do not think it will be easy to continue like this. We're fucking Liverpool, we always find a way to make it difficult again and then somehow make it out as winners at the last minute.

[keyop]

By all means be cautious. But go find another thread then.

In this thread we dine on the best Liverpool team of our lifetimes, sing its praises, and get on the hype train without a second's thought.

Exactly this.

Excitement, joy and getting carried away is what this game is all about. If that's not for some people then fine, but 30 years of waiting makes seasons like this even more enjoyable, despite the pain of falling short before.

I'd rather go all in and dream than spend the season worrying about City or advising caution just in case of disappointment.

Anything could happen - City could go on a winning run, we could stumble or get injuries (or both), or lose form and confidence. But that's all if's, but's and maybe's. For now just drink it all in, savour every moment and look at how far we've come.

[Jm55]

Yes, but getting ahead of oneself has been the reason why every title challenge in those 30 years has been even more upsetting in the end. And I'm pretty sure that the anxiety among the supporters when seeing the finish line in 2014 transferred to the players, who couldn't handle the pressure of those like 25 years on their shoulders.
There's so much joy in anticipating the next game, why anticipate an almost entire season? At least for me, the prospect of potentially handing the Mancs an absolute downer is very entertaining. 

Last season wasn’t overly upsetting for me - we won the european cup.

Yes 2014 was crushing but given the manager of it it always would have been no matter how reserved we’d been.

I’m not suggesting we proclaim ourselves league champions in October as there’s obviously a long long way to go.

I’m just saying - we’ve won 17 games in a row, haven’t lost a league game since January, have amassed the highest lead any team has managed at this stage of the season, City have half their defence injured and were fucking brilliant - yes we might fuck it all up but we’re not managed by Kevin Keegan. It’s absolutely fine to be delighted by all of that, drink it in and see where it takes us. If it does end up without a league title then so be it - last season that happened and we won the European Cup.

[thisyearisouryear]

Hard not to get excited
But a 3rd heartbreak in 6 years would be tough to take. Where we are in March would be telling. Also, don't forget - our last 3 matches of the season include Arsenal and Chelsea. Even a 4-5 point lead by then can be dicey

[thisyearisouryear]

I have already come to terms with our current team, even Hodgson could bring us to the league title.

[Fernando_Torres_Was_Good]

Hilarious how Gary Neville was saying about 3 weeks ago that United would 100% win the league before Liverpool, and now he is saying that it is impossible for us not to win the league this year. Absolute cartoon of a human being, that man.