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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #80 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:10 pm »
See this why you need wingers on the bench. Can't get my head round 2 defenders being on the bench.

Need to step it up this second half.

Salah's on the bench. Could use him right about now.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #81 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:14 pm »
That midfield. My word less said the better. Not a single bit of invention there among the three and as a result our play slows down.

Milner has been fine - some lovely passes slipped in between their right centre back and Ward at times. He's also very decent at receiving the ball into feet with his back to goal to provide that wall pass option. Right now, with our chronic lack of midfield options, I think he's a must in games like this.

The other two are the issue. Henderson's passing is woeful and Wijnaldum is the invisible man once again.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #82 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:15 pm »
Pretty decent debut from Andy Robertson, reminds me of a mix of Aurelio and Arbeloa, solid and reliable, very intelligent positional play and a mean cross on him. Very encouraging indeed and looks like a guy playing his hundredth game for us, not his first.

Only one team seems happy to play football though, Palace are dire and dragging us down to their level. Some changes methinks in the second half should be enough to do them.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #83 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:20 pm »
That midfield. My word less said the better. Not a single bit of invention there among the three and as a result our play slows down. Henderson must get a bonus if he hits a certain number of long passes. There isn't another explanation for his constant switching of play when not required or his forcing of play when not needed either.

Rather than having a midfield 3 from Milner, Can, Hendo or Gini....i rather we just pick 2 of them and put an additional striker. In fact i would put firmino in a midfield 3 and play mane, sturridge and salah up front.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #84 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:20 pm »
I thought we played well. Moved the ball at pace and tried to open Palace up which we did for the 2 chances that we should have scored from. Attack little a bit of cohesion but understandable with the personnel change up front and in midfield.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #85 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:22 pm »
We're at half-time in the second game of the season.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #86 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:25 pm »
Lads, we're playing a makeshift side because of CL priorities. It really isn't that bad.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #87 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:26 pm »
What it will be like all season without Coutinho and if Lallana picks up any more injuries.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #88 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:26 pm »
Plenty of positives. Robertson has been excellent. We haven't condeded a goal yet. And... nope, that's all I got. New season, same old story in these games. We've missed some chances to be fair, but we don't have the craftmanship or guile in midfield or attack to open these sorts of teams up. I'll give the attackers the benefit of the doubt since I know they all have a lot of quality, but Fimino and Sturridge don't look on it at all. The defence is the defence.

That midfield though...


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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #89 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:43 pm »
Fair performances from two fair footballing sides, nothing more nothing less.

Computerised score after 90 min's....... Liverpool 0 Crystal Palace 0.

Educated guess at the final score after 90 min's.....Liverpool 0 Crystal Palace 0.

(based on first half performance's)

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #90 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:49 pm »
Would fancy Solanke in the air with Robertson's crossing you know.

I was thinking that too......somebody to attack a good cross.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #91 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:49 pm »
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #92 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:51 pm »
Robertson looking good going forward, but untested defensively. Milner looks like he is providing a lot of defensive cover on the left flank. That's perhaps an interesting consequence of Milner having played LB last year, he can offer that cover very effectively from a midfield starting position, allowing the LB, Robertson in this case, to be more advanced. Can see that being very useful against some teams.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #93 on: August 19, 2017, 03:53:55 pm »
It's going to be a long season.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #94 on: August 19, 2017, 03:54:02 pm »
Lads, we're playing a makeshift side because of CL priorities. It really isn't that bad.

That is an excellent way of putting it.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #95 on: August 19, 2017, 03:54:02 pm »
Henderson Minler Windaljum what can you get if not average?
True, there's no one there who can break the lines, but they've also, collectively, put in a hell of a shift, dominated possession utterly, and Milner has got himself into a few dangerous situations.

Firmino and Mane - both of them have received a lot of possession, some in very dangerous situations. Firmino's been really poor - so casual in possession - while Mane has tried but just seems to have had an off day, hasn't been as sharp as usual.

Collectively we've been underhitting passes and putting them behind players, but if we keep playing like this we will make more opportunities and we should win.

Robertson's crossing has been lovely. Matip seems to have totally forgotten how to direct attacking headers since joining us, pretty terrible miss for a defender who joined us with a decent scoring record.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #96 on: August 19, 2017, 03:54:06 pm »
Henderson is giving away possession far too much for low percentage passes. Wijnaldum isn't getting open to receive passes in midfield enough. Firmino needs to make more runs behind the defence. Those are my criticism of the first half.

Positives for me are Robertson is looking good in his debut so far and Joe Gomez is performing well at right back. Mane is just waiting to get on the end of a pass to score.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #97 on: August 19, 2017, 03:54:31 pm »
Matip is so poor in the air. How on earth did he miss that chance.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #98 on: August 19, 2017, 03:54:32 pm »
It's going to be a long season.

Based on what? We're still in August!

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #99 on: August 19, 2017, 03:54:40 pm »
Some cracking deliveries by Robertson, it's a shame all of them are going to waste with shite heading and runs.

Possibly Solanke on for Sturridge, I'd imagine Mane and Firmino will come off at some point seeing as we'll need them for Wednesday and they'll be knackered. 🤔

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #100 on: August 19, 2017, 03:54:47 pm »
Lads, we're playing a makeshift side because of CL priorities. It really isn't that bad.

Which speaks volumes of the squad depth, or lack of it. We're still in 4 competitions this season as well.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #101 on: August 19, 2017, 03:54:55 pm »
Frustrating, as is so often the case in these sorts of games. Firmino not looking great when he's pushed out wide, Mane's had moments, midfield still looks a bit nothingy without Lallana or Mr Backtwinge. Robertson started off a touch shaky, I thought, but quickly grew into the game and we really should have scored off at least one of those crosses. Nice to see Sturridge back, but he really isn't the player he used to be. Still fancy him to score though.

We're dominating them, but with no real penetration as yet. Hopefully we can find a way through at some point, and we've got Salah and the two strikers on the bench, so there's options there, should we need them. Come on lads, you can do it.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #102 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:05 pm »
Pointless dominating if you don't create anything.
We had two very good chances.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #103 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:06 pm »
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #104 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:08 pm »
Robertson looks good. That's about it  ;)

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #105 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:10 pm »
One dimensioned attack, through wings.
Midfield is non existent. Probably one of the worst midfield for attack play.

Two very average teams playing each other.

If we are going to have these midfield playing, forget 4th place.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #106 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:10 pm »
Lads, we're playing a makeshift side because of CL priorities. It really isn't that bad.

Most of our changes are in defence though, which has not been a problem at all. So far this season we've been crying out for Lallana/Coutinho type player.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #107 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:25 pm »
Rather than having a midfield 3 from Milner, Can, Hendo or Gini....i rather we just pick 2 of them and put an additional striker. In fact i would put firmino in a midfield 3 and play mane, sturridge and salah up front.
I wouldn't mind seeing a 4-2-3-1 with Firmino as the 10, for sure.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #108 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:30 pm »
Is it me, or does the pitch seem a little slow? We were promised a zippy surface, I'm not sure I see that though. Quite a few under hit passes.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #109 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:35 pm »
Some cracking deliveries by Robertson, it's a shame all of them are going to waste with shite heading and runs.

Possibly Solanke on for Sturridge, I'd imagine Mane and Firmino will come off at some point seeing as we'll need them for Wednesday and they'll be knackered. 🤔

Salah will most likely come on too at some point, he'll be great if he does.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #110 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:36 pm »
It's going to be a long season.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #111 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:45 pm »
That midfield! The front 3 have all come deep looking for the ball as there is nothing creative behind them. We have enough to beat Palace though, they are there for the taking if we can speed up our play.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #112 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:46 pm »
Ironically enough, Benteke up against that Palace defence with those crosses coming in from Robertson would have a field day. Solanke wouldn't be the worst shout, he'd be the physical presence they really don't like being up against.

Loads of time to win this one folks, for all that we look a bit stunted they look fucking awful.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #113 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:48 pm »
Our midfield aren't the most creative.......Henderson just needs to feed a short ball into one of the front three and they will make the space.

Don't disagree, but I think the midfield has to create something on the ball instead of the little give and go. Just running beyond the defence doesn't make for great attacking play. We just have no skill on the ball in midfield. We're absolutely mothered if we give in and sell Phil.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #114 on: August 19, 2017, 03:55:58 pm »
Is it me, or does the pitch seem a little slow? We were promised a zippy surface, I'm not sure I see that though. Quite a few under hit passes.
I agree. Does seem so.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #115 on: August 19, 2017, 03:56:07 pm »
Pointless dominating if you don't create anything.

Not pointless.  Too much bedwetting.  Firmino is fine.  The issue is with Gini --- he's too slow in making decisions and not breaking lines.

Need more dynamism on the left to partner with Robertson --- that's why Mane switched.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #116 on: August 19, 2017, 03:56:11 pm »
Close your eyes and imagine Dijk Keita and Coutinho in this side. The whole concept changes. So frustrating.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #117 on: August 19, 2017, 03:56:15 pm »
Slow, choppy meh match so far. This ones gonna go the distance I think. End 0-0 or 1-0
Robertson still needs adjustment time.
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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #118 on: August 19, 2017, 03:56:19 pm »
Which speaks volumes of the squad depth, or lack of it. We're still in 4 competitions this season as well.
I agree but for what it is we're doing OK so far.

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Re: Half time: Liverpool 0-0 Crystal Palace
« Reply #119 on: August 19, 2017, 03:56:24 pm »
Fucking hell Klopp, I hope you're reading the tactical geniuses in this thread and sort it out second half!

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