Topic: Watford 2 - 1 Liverpool HT

[Ycuzz]

[rabble-rabble]

Have a word with yerself..

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Is it balls Phil that's fucked us. It's the club's fault for not having a plan B in the transfer market, the management team for not working on obvious defensive flaws for over a year, and Klopp's for having too much faith in championship standard players.

He's said he was staying all summer and has handed in a transfer request and is pretending to be injured just as the season has kicked off.

[Giono]

It's our midfield.


If the front 3 are starved and they are coming back into midfield so that they can maybe get a touch on the ball...there is a problem in midfield.

[BER]

Shooting ourselves in the foot again, great goal, a typically frustrating ref giving a shithouse team masses of physical license - that trip on Mane at the end...fair enough there isn't time to take the free-kick but shouldn't that be a booking? But no, no bookings, which would suggest it's been a really clean game. It hasn't, not at all. They're not horrible cheats but they've got away with a lot.

I really miss Gerrard in games like this. He could get away with loads and he'd of gone through a couple of these Watford players by now. Where are Can and Henderson like? They don't use their physicality at all.

[harryc]

Can see why Klopp was after a dynamic midfielder like Keita, the current 3 oml.

[El Lobo]

Klopp has identified the players he wants but the recruitment team simply cannot do their job properly. Klopp is not looking to sign players from Madrid or Barca. We can't get deals done with the likes of Leicester, Fulham, Southampton etc. It is fucking laughable.

Yes!!!

Lets make it an FSG thread

Yes!!!

[SweetLeftFoot]

Most of that is based on 45 minutes of football.

Coutinho will stay this season, and if he wants to play in the World Cup next summer, he'll play at his best.

Really? You've never any of these problems in the team before today's first half?

[Henry Gale]

Mignolet Lovren Moreno

Klopp has had 4 windows yet they are still starting..

It's all on him I'm afraid.

SIGN SOME FUCKING PLAYERS

He's convinced they are good enough. That's the only explanation.

[Upinsmoke]

FSG will just sack the manager again, cos they will solve things. Nothing to do with not signing players and blowing up deals on purpose.

[Reese]

No excuse for the shambles, but the forward is clearly offsides and impeding play for the 2nd goal.

Really surprised Robertson is not even on the bench and that Moreno started. Still too much of a defensive liability for me combined with Lovren on that side.

Dearly missing Phil or Lallana for the in between line play. Would be tempted to drop Bob to the attacking MF and bring Solanke on. He's really the only one who's passing can be at the level.

2nd half to sort it out. Lets go Reds!

[RobbieRedman]

Carra absolutely bang on there

[tubby]

Klopp has identified the players he wants but the recruitment team simply cannot do their job properly. Klopp is not looking to sign players from Madrid or Barca. We can't get deals done with the likes of Leicester, Fulham, Southampton etc. It is fucking laughable.

Probably their fault for Klopp starting Moreno, right?

[killer-heels]

Terrible defending and terrible passing in terms of going forward. Its pretty much the dame as last season against these types of sides.

Its not good enough. They are absolutely terrible and we should be beating them easily.

[wellred82]

Don't get it. He signed players at Dortmund when he had weak ones that needed replacing. I just don't get why he suddenly thinks he can turn water into wine here. Got to be more to it

Yes it's called John Henry and his tight arse tactics.

All that TV money from last season and still we put out the same shite.

[sms1986]

Why would anyone want to leave Lovren and Moreno to go play with Messi and Suarez?

He gets to play with Mane and Firmino, and are you telling me that Barcelona have perfect defenders?

[10 years on]

Carra saying exactly what I said, one player doesn't fix that defence. It's the coaching.

[liverpool185]

For those who imagined that LFC's best player dumping on the club the day before the season starts wouldn't effect the morale of his team-mates.....exhibit A

Absolute bollocks, these types of performances have been happening all the time under klopp with or without coutinho.

[scouseman]

Tepid water to take over the transfer committee please

[Mighty Zeus]

A bit of a wakeup for a lot of us, none of the issues have been sorted from last season. Thing is, they are fairly obvious yes Klopp refuses to see them.

Yes Klopp is such a shit manager and is completely blind to our weaknesses and is doing nothing to address them, he's entirely incompetent, also fuck off.

[Zoomers]

This summer has been badly mismanaged.

Target two players and give up when you don't get them. Fucking laughable stuff. What kind of management is that?

[SquirrelandGman]

Players looked like they just played a europa match on thursday.

And its amazing how coutinho ties everything up together.

No one in that midfield has the vision to do anything creative. Firmino had to step in everytime and do the coutinho role.

[puroresu_kid]

How can we look so good in pre-season and the come out like this for season opener?

Friendlies really don't mean much

[Bruce Springsteen]

Carragher is livid. He's right though we are so exposed to counter attacks and our centrebacks not up to it.

[xbugawugax]

We've a world class manager a quality team and squad, stop your moaning. Look how good we we're in pre season ffs.

we won the preseason trophy but when it comes to the actual stuff less said the better

[TepidT2O]

It's 2-1 not 5-1. We can pull this one back chill guys come on.

Yes.. funny that the twats in here can't see this...

Some would rather insult the team, it's players and the club rather than stand up an d support the team.

Probably says more about them than anything else...

[sms1986]

Yes it's called John Henry and his tight arse tactics.

All that TV money from last season and still we put out the same shite.

Yeah, it's not like we paid 35m for Salah and tried to buy Keita for double that or anything.

[RyanBabel19]

Top 10 squads in europe

[supaerheraw]

Might give the board a kick up the arse

Heard that many times before. 

[rawcusk8]

Hendo Can and Gini want to occupy the same area. Get Gini off put Solanke on and drop Firmino in as number 10.

Carra saying one man (VVD) will not make a difference to this defence, we are pretty shambolic at the back so you would sort of agree.

[KevLFC]

Lol firmino in the middle of defence on a corner ffs. Surely the manager should know that our big guys should be there?

[Lar Salty]

No creativity in this midfield, and no steel outside of Can. I know everyone adores Henderson, but he offers nothing on either side of the ball. Way too timid with the ball on his foot, and too soft to break up attacks defensively. Wijnaldum goes missing every time he plays alongside Henderson.

Without Lallana and Coutinho we have no one in the midfield that can transition into the attack.

It's painful to watch.

[thelinnen]

We've learned nothing.

[duvva 💅]

Well I think we'll still win this.

We absolutely still can. The more worrying thing is the same mistakes when defending and the lack of composure and inability to break this type of opposition down is clearly still a massive issue and will continue to cost us.

[naka]

Yeah, except he's not taking henderson off

For the second goal  alone he should be hooked
He didn't do the basics and track back
Criminal from him

[BeautifulGame91]

No point singling out anyone.Apart from Mane everyone having a bad game.

But the midfield needs creativity and we need a CB .Everyone knows that.So it's a bit depressing we still haven't botherered addressing it.

And why is Moreno even starting .If Robertson wasn't better than him what's the point of even buying him.

[amir87]

Even if we get something out of this game its fucking nuts to think this squad is good enough to challenge for the title.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Yes.. funny that the twats in here can't see this...

Some would rather insult the team, it's players and the club rather than stand up an d support the team.

Probably says more about them than anything else...

The pram simply cannot contain toys. It cannot. They must go.

[Reese]

FSG out and borderline Klopp out posts already. That took long. 

[thisyearisouryear]

When we will start being realistic and not optimistic?
This team is bad. Our defence is awkward. Our midfield is nothing without Coutinho.
The bitter truth.

[ApfelStudel]

Is Mignolet hungover? There is no other explanation for the couple of mistakes ( bad passes ) he has done so far. I think it is fair to say that we are really desperate for another top CB and CM. Unfortunately, Klopp might have to really on getting the best out of the players we have. This will make his job much more difficult.