Topic: Doesn't matter who you vote for as long as it's for the right reasons!

[lobsterboy]

COVID19 is seen as an opportunity for toilet training the public on obeying authoritarian rule for future fascist regimes.

[killer-heels]

COVID19 is seen as an opportunity for toilet training the public on obeying authoritarian rule for future fascist regimes.

Or the public could do it on their own accord and not have this situation?

[Nobby Reserve]

Anyone remember before the last two elections, where Tory twats were screaming about a UK under Corbyn government being like Venezuela?

 

Well we now have a government corruptly awarding £multi-million contracts to governing party donors, friends/family of senior party officials, and others with close links to the governing party.

We see party loyalists and close friends of senior party officials put in charge of state organisations and operations, despite being unqualified.

We see the impartiality of the judiciary being deliberately targeted.

We see the government seeking to place itself and its actions above the rule of law.

We see the government bringing in laws to bypass parliament and rule by decree.

We see the government bragging about breaking international treaties that don't suit them.

We see a state broadcaster used as a government propaganda mouthpiece, with governing party loyalists put in positions of control

 

Tell me which party makes the country more like Venezuela?

[Zeb]

Hope not hate have released their report into the Tories and Islamophobia.

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2020/09/30/the-deep-roots-of-islamophobia-in-the-conservative-party/

One of the things they've done is got Yougov to survey Tory members.

* 57% of party members had a negative attitude towards Muslims, with 21% registering a very negative attitude. This is more than twice the number of those with negative attitudes towards Hindus and Jewish people, and the fifth of respondents with very negative attitudes compares with just 3% who felt the same about Jews, Hindus and Sikhs.

* Half of Conservative Party members (47%) believe that Islam is “a threat to the British way of life”, while 58% believed that “there are no go areas in Britain where Sharia law dominates and non-Muslims cannot enter”. This figure rose to 66% of those who backed Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson in the 2019 leadership election.

* Over a third of Tory members thought that Islamist terrorists reflect a widespread hostility to Britain amongst the Muslim community, compared to 53% who thought it was wrong to blame all Muslims for the actions of a violent minority. Opinion was evenly divided amongst Johnson supporters, with 44% believing the former statement and 46% the latter.

Conservative Party members hold significantly more negative attitudes towards Muslims than the general public. In a separate poll commissioned by HOPE not hate, YouGov asked the same questions in a national poll. Just under a third of the general public (30%) thought Islam was a threat to the British way of life (compared to 47% of Tory members), while 37% of the public thought that there were no go areas where non-Muslims could not enter (compared to 47% of Tory members). Conservative members were more than doubly as likely to think that Islamist terrorists reflect a widespread hostility to Britain amongst the Muslim community than in the national poll.

Distressingly, Conservative Party members refuse to believe that their party has a problem with Islamophobia:

* 79% believe that there is no problem, just 9% think there is. Among Johnson supporters this grew to 86% and fell to 4% respectively

* Only one in six party members (17%) felt that the Conservative Party should be doing more to combat Islamophobia and other racism within the party, compared to 74% who believed that the party was already doing all it reasonably can. Johnson supporters split 8% and 85% respectively

The polling represents a huge challenge to the party’s leadership, demonstrating that Islamophobia is a widely spread view within the party’s membership. This is underlined by the continued inaction, or tepid action, against members – some of whom are senior members – who engage is outright Islamophobic activity.

Javid got Johnson to promise to have an investigation into this but that's since been altered to a general 'may have a look at all forms of racism'. One of the things the EHRC need in order to investigate is Tory members who have themselves been affected by it to lodge complaints and provide evidence there's been a breach of equality law, which is a significant hurdle even to begin an investigation.

[TSC]

Sky news reporting Priti Patel has suggested sending asylum seekers to Ascension Island and St. Helena in the south Atlantic to be ‘processed’. 

[Yorkykopite]

Anyone remember before the last two elections, where Tory twats were screaming about a UK under Corbyn government being like Venezuela?


Tell me which party makes the country more like Venezuela?

It's obviously the Tories and you are right to point this out.

But now, under Keir Starmer, the Labour party can also point it out. It couldn't under Corbyn. The hypocrisy would have been too great.
 

[So… Howard Philips]

Sky news reporting Priti Patel has suggested sending asylum seekers to Ascension Island and St. Helena in the south Atlantic to be ‘processed’.

Back when her family were kicked out of Uganda there were plenty on the right who would have jumped at that idea.

Fortunately for her even Ted Heath's government weren't that inhumane.

[Commie Bobbie]

Back when her family were kicked out of Uganda there were plenty on the right who would have jumped at that idea.

Fortunately for her even Ted Heath's government weren't that inhumane.

I find reprehensible that someone can think of adopting such a policy. But its the Tories so no surprise there.

[Sammy5IsAlive]

I think for a while that Patel and the 'higher-ups' in the Home Office are taking inspiration from the Australian approach to immigration. That approach does involve detaining people on Nauru and Manus whilst their immigration issues are resolved one way or another. So from that perspective the practical principle is not completely crazy (obviously the moral question is another thing entirely).

That said it seems likely that Patel's geography is not too hot and she is not particularly on the ball about where Ascension Island/St Helena are.

[Alan_X]

COVID19 is seen as an opportunity for toilet training the public on obeying authoritarian rule for future fascist regimes.

And how's that going?

[12C]

Back when her family were kicked out of Uganda there were plenty on the right who would have jumped at that idea.

Fortunately for her even Ted Heath's government weren't that inhumane.

Heath, for all his faults, actually got shut of Enoch Powell, because his racism was so bad.

[12C]

I find reprehensible that someone can think of adopting such a policy. But its the Tories so no surprise there.

And it’s also what Australia does with its asylum seekers.
And Patel has been hanging round with Abbott, presumably getting the low down on the “Australian Immigration model”

[CornerFlag]

Patel is one of the most repugnant members of any cabinet I've ever known.  And McVey used to be a minister, too.

[Felch Aid]

Raging brexiteer Botham in the HOL. Looks like Baldrick in Blackadder 3.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-54418406

[TepidT2O]

Raging brexiteer Botham in the HOL. Looks like Baldrick in Blackadder 3.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-54418406

[Riquende]

Imagine Boris's lot being in charge back then, building of tanks contract handed out to a old chum of Dominic Cummings with no experience of Mass production or Tanks. billions of pounds of Plane building contracts handed out to big Tory donors who end up producing sod all.

Why would it be a problem? This brexit government, with its naked appeals to xenophobia, its contempt for good governance through parliament and its general disdain for democratic principles wouldn't need a military buildup just to cheer on their natural Nazi allies.

[Jshooters]

Although this is Australian many of the themes could be applied to the horror show in charge of us

Putting the n into cuts

https://youtu.be/8qj83LE2Mpw

[oldfordie]

Why would it be a problem? This brexit government, with its naked appeals to xenophobia, its contempt for good governance through parliament and its general disdain for democratic principles wouldn't need a military buildup just to cheer on their natural Nazi allies.

Well that's one way of looking at it 

[nayia2002]

Although this is Australian many of the themes could be applied to the horror show in charge of us

Putting the n into cuts

https://youtu.be/8qj83LE2Mpw

c*nts here and there

[Circa1892]

That shitty, useless, posh boy c*nt Laurence Fox. You know, the man who is most famous for being a sidekick to Morse's sidekick, and beating Chris Evans to the title of Billie Piper's worst ex-husband. Given a platform at the Tory Party Conference today.

Amongst other things - decried the fact that "Holocaust Denial is a crime in some countries". Literally how big a fucking spiny, wiry, posh boy c*nt do you have to be to find fault in that. Evil little shit.

[TSC]

That shitty, useless, posh boy c*nt Laurence Fox. You know, the man who is most famous for being a sidekick to Morse's sidekick, and beating Chris Evans to the title of Billie Piper's worst ex-husband. Given a platform at the Tory Party Conference today.

Amongst other things - decried the fact that "Holocaust Denial is a crime in some countries". Literally how big a fucking spiny, wiry, posh boy c*nt do you have to be to find fault in that. Evil little shit.

One minute he’s a sidekick in midsummer or something, then he’s starting up some sort of (racist?) political party and addressing Tories. 

[Circa1892]

He lucked out with furlough, which was a fairly obvious thing to do - but Sunak really is a useless fucking c*nt isn't he. Strong competition but I think he'll go down as the worst chancellor in modern history.

[Scottymuser]

He lucked out with furlough, which was a fairly obvious thing to do - but Sunak really is a useless fucking c*nt isn't he. Strong competition but I think he'll go down as the worst chancellor in modern history.

Scary thing is - he is better as Chancellor than BJ is as PM (or any role he has ever been in), or Williamson as Healt Sec, Gove as whatever the fuck he does nowadays, etc

[Felch Aid]

He lucked out with furlough, which was a fairly obvious thing to do - but Sunak really is a useless fucking c*nt isn't he. Strong competition but I think he'll go down as the worst chancellor in modern history.

Loved by the Tory faithful and heir to the throne because of Furlough. Now he has to let businesses fail and recoup the handouts. His popularity will plummet.

Find him quite robotic myself albeit a little more competent than BJ but it's not a glowing endorsement is it.

[12C]

One minute he’s a sidekick in midsummer or something, then he’s starting up some sort of (racist?) political party and addressing Tories.

Saw a thread on Twitter where his “backers” were questioned.
Apparently £5m in funding already and his PR is being handled by a right shower of Ex Torygraph/Question Time and all round right wingers who formed a company of Crisis PR types.
The Top guy is a Rugger Bugger type who was a top man at the Torygraph and very close to Johnson’s campaign for leadership, but now “regrets” his involvement somehow.
Seems like the Barclay Bros have found their Frottage.
These twats will be using the American tactic of targeting non extreme MPs to get them deselected with a threat of splitting the old white racist vote
And anyone who shows off two tattoos which can be placed together to read Freedom Space is too close to Liebenraum and the Nazis for my liking

I see the guy from Stonewall is taking legal action for Fox calling him a paedophile because he is gay.
Fox reckons he was entitled to call him that because he was called a racist for his rants.

[Red Ol]

That shitty, useless, posh boy c*nt Laurence Fox. You know, the man who is most famous for being a sidekick to Morse's sidekick, and beating Chris Evans to the title of Billie Piper's worst ex-husband. Given a platform at the Tory Party Conference today.

Amongst other things - decried the fact that "Holocaust Denial is a crime in some countries". Literally how big a fucking spiny, wiry, posh boy c*nt do you have to be to find fault in that. Evil little shit.

Absolute Privileged Aryan knob - inevitable that we would eventually get our own Fox and Friends

[So… Howard Philips]

Loved by the Tory faithful and heir to the throne because of Furlough. Now he has to let businesses fail and recoup the handouts. His popularity will plummet.

Find him quite robotic myself albeit a little more competent than BJ but it's not a glowing endorsement is it.

He needs to buy a suit that fits him properly. The slightly short arms and trousers make him look like he's dressed by Norman Wisdom's tailor.

[12C]

He needs to buy a suit that fits him properly. The slightly short arms and trousers make him look like he's dressed by Norman Wisdom's tailor.

I thought for a second that we were still on about the scruffy Actor
Then I recalled that Fishy looks like he shops in the slim fitting section  at Next

[Theoldkopite]

I thought for a second that we were still on about the scruffy Actor
Then I recalled that Fishy looks like he shops in the slim fitting section  at Next

Speaking as someone who does shop in the slim fitting section at Next your comments have a slight tinge of jealousy

[So… Howard Philips]

I thought for a second that we were still on about the scruffy Actor
Then I recalled that Fishy looks like he shops in the slim fitting section  at Next

I was talking about Sunak, the billionaire's daughter's husband.

[Dr. Beaker]

Johnson's jokes without the canned laughter fall terribly flat. Even Sunak, still wearing his first suit, would do better than this.

[Felch Aid]

Jesus wept this speech is beyond parody.

[Machae]

Always the tax payers who have to foot the bill. This stupid notion that you cant trust Labour with money, when for years, Tories have wasted billions. Joke is they were warned that their checks had a high risk of fraud

Bounce back loans: Taxpayers may lose £26bn on unpaid loans

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54432916

[12C]

Speaking as someone who does shop in the slim fitting section at Next your comments have a slight tinge of jealousy

Seen too many insurance salesmen and financial services “consultants” in suits too small for them to want to look like that
The Grealish effect.
Seriously, kecks too short jacket too tight and a big knot in the tie.  😱

[12C]

I was talking about Sunak, the billionaire's daughter's husband.

Same look.
All that money and he gets suits like that.
All socks and cuffs.

[stewil007]

Seen too many insurance salesmen and financial services “consultants” in suits too small for them to want to look like that
The Grealish effect.
Seriously, kecks too short jacket too tight and a big knot in the tie.  😱

don't forget the shoes and no socks vibe

[12C]

Johnson's jokes without the canned laughter fall terribly flat. Even Sunak, still wearing his first suit, would do better than this.

Apparently Britain has “decided” to be the world leader in wind power.
Populist bollocks from the Spaffer

[oldfordie]

Another car crash PMQT for Johnson today.
Same old "get behind the government restrictions" reply to answer questions.
Starmer brings up a shocking damming statistic, 20 of the lockdown areas went into lockdown with a figure of 20 per 100.000  when entering lockdown. 19 of the 20 areas figures have shot up to 200-400+ per 100.000 while in lockdown. the restrictions are clearly not working.
Johnson. get behind the restrictions blah blah blah

Starmer. what is the scientific basis for the 10pm rule.
Johnson. the object is to reduce the spread of the virus.blah blah blah.

[TSC]

Allegra Stratton confirmed as new press secretary and duties will include heading up ‘presidential-type’ briefings. 

[Jshooters]

Allegra Stratton confirmed as new press secretary and duties will include heading up ‘presidential-type’ briefings.......

deflection, obfuscation, whattaboutism...