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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - RIP Peter's mum x
« Reply #34680 on: July 30, 2022, 02:18:11 pm »
Ox out until October. Real shame for him, by the time he's up to speed we're going to be right in the thick of it and I'm not sure he gets a look in.

Don't think it'll have any transfer consequence either, my feeling was that even if Ox was sold we wouldn't get someone.

He’s in the last year of his contact. It’s a massive blow to him but the aim has to be to get fully fit and ready before the World Cup break then he might get a look in after or before the International players all go off.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34681 on: July 31, 2022, 11:24:58 pm »
We aren’t signing Ronaldo


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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34682 on: August 1, 2022, 09:33:59 am »
We aren’t signing Ronaldo

I certainly hope we aren't ...


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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34683 on: August 1, 2022, 10:04:22 am »
Still think that one would do better for us than the knock-off version
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - END GAME
« Reply #34684 on: August 1, 2022, 10:39:50 am »
Good to be back, mate. My mother has passed away few weeks ago, so I took some time off everything ...
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34685 on: August 1, 2022, 10:54:13 am »
As I've said before, the Full English is just the base upon which the Scots/Welsh/NI have improved upon. Sorry but the Full English is the worst of the British breakfasts.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34686 on: August 1, 2022, 11:06:04 am »
I certainly hope we aren't ...



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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34687 on: August 1, 2022, 12:58:14 pm »
So Chamberlain is out for up to three months, Jones was wearing a boot and using crutches at Anfield last night, and Keita hasn't yet put pen to paper on a new deal.  Hopefully Curtis is just a precaution, but probably not the position of strength we wanted to go into the season with in terms of midfield?

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34688 on: August 1, 2022, 01:02:34 pm »
So Chamberlain is out for up to three months, Jones was wearing a boot and using crutches at Anfield last night, and Keita hasn't yet put pen to paper on a new deal.  Hopefully Curtis is just a precaution, but probably not the position of strength we wanted to go into the season with in terms of midfield?

Can't see us signing another midfielder, but it's the one area of our squad that could always do with an extra body. Also probably explains why Morton hasn't been allowed to leave yet.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34689 on: August 1, 2022, 01:54:38 pm »
So Chamberlain is out for up to three months, Jones was wearing a boot and using crutches at Anfield last night, and Keita hasn't yet put pen to paper on a new deal.  Hopefully Curtis is just a precaution, but probably not the position of strength we wanted to go into the season with in terms of midfield?

Shows how much depth we have in that position though really when all that is going on yet we still have at least 6 realistic options in Henderson, Fabinho, Thiago, Milner, Elliott and Carvalho. Plus Keita can still play despite only having a year left on his contract...

So really we're still 5 injuries away from struggling to put out a somewhat functional midfield, and even if we had only 2 available we could work something around dropping Firmino deep.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34690 on: August 1, 2022, 01:58:57 pm »
I know he’s a kid but I wouldn’t be worried about Bajetic starting games in an emergency
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34691 on: August 1, 2022, 02:00:41 pm »
Can't see us signing another midfielder, but it's the one area of our squad that could always do with an extra body. Also probably explains why Morton hasn't been allowed to leave yet.

I thought he'd already gone to Blackburn, was surprised he was playing last night.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34692 on: August 1, 2022, 02:33:10 pm »
With absolutely no inside knowledge, I have a feeling we'll get Nunes this season and Bellingham next season. Keita contract talks have gone cold seemingly, Curtis in a boot and Ox out for 3 months...it's aaaaaaaaaall coming together...or not

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34693 on: August 1, 2022, 02:35:22 pm »
Curtis is only precautionary, they were going to take a proper look this week and see if there's anything to it.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34694 on: August 1, 2022, 02:39:13 pm »
Now that's what I call a wide forward.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34695 on: August 1, 2022, 03:11:41 pm »
With absolutely no inside knowledge, I have a feeling we'll get Nunes this season and Bellingham next season. Keita contract talks have gone cold seemingly, Curtis in a boot and Ox out for 3 months...it's aaaaaaaaaall coming together...or not

What about Darwin's mate  Federico Santiago Valverde Dipetta from Uruguay .
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34696 on: August 1, 2022, 03:17:01 pm »
What about Darwin's mate  Federico Santiago Valverde Dipetta from Uruguay .

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34697 on: August 1, 2022, 03:40:20 pm »
Morton’s loan to Blackburn confirmed.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34698 on: August 1, 2022, 03:40:46 pm »
I thought he'd already gone to Blackburn, was surprised he was playing last night.

He has now, Season long loan to Blackburn.


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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34699 on: August 1, 2022, 03:55:07 pm »
With absolutely no inside knowledge, I have a feeling we'll get Nunes this season and Bellingham next season. Keita contract talks have gone cold seemingly, Curtis in a boot and Ox out for 3 months...it's aaaaaaaaaall coming together...or not

Saw sporting want £50m. I imagine that's well above what we'd be prepared to pay. I think they know City were/are interested and increased his price.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34700 on: August 1, 2022, 04:01:42 pm »
Saw sporting want £50m. I imagine that's well above what we'd be prepared to pay. I think they know City were/are interested and increased his price.

I think a £150 million outlay (approx) for two bright young midfielders in Bellingham and Nunes doesn't sound that ridiculous, particularly when you have Milner and Ox probably leaving next season, questions over Keita and his contract, and Henderson/Thiago not being the most robust midfielders out there. As I say, this is all an absolute guess from my side (slow work day), but with the aforementioned injuries/contract saga's, I wouldn't be surprised if we moved our midfield business forward 12 months, even if only 50% of it. Probably just wishful thinking on my part though...

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34701 on: August 1, 2022, 04:08:17 pm »
I think a £150 million outlay (approx) for two bright young midfielders in Bellingham and Nunes doesn't sound that ridiculous, particularly when you have Milner and Ox probably leaving next season, questions over Keita and his contract, and Henderson/Thiago not being the most robust midfielders out there. As I say, this is all an absolute guess from my side (slow work day), but with the aforementioned injuries/contract saga's, I wouldn't be surprised if we moved our midfield business forward 12 months, even if only 50% of it. Probably just wishful thinking on my part though...

That's a lot of money but suppose it depends on wages. But imo we need a new midfielder now and another next summer. But don't think we'll get one. Don't think the money is there. I think if we get one it's because Naby is off. We were never going to replace Ox. 
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34702 on: August 1, 2022, 04:14:03 pm »
That's a lot of money but suppose it depends on wages. But imo we need a new midfielder now and another next summer. But don't think we'll get one. Don't think the money is there. I think if we get one it's because Naby is off. We were never going to replace Ox. 

I think it's looking like another season where we break even, so not sure we can totally discount the option of shelling £40-£50 million on a young midfielder who could stay in the team for years to come (Nunes). Chuck in £90 million odd on Bellingham next year and we're potentially sorted for a good few years (particularly when you have other youngsters coming up). I dunno, I just have a sneaky feeling we're not done yet...and I bloody love Football Manager...

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34703 on: August 1, 2022, 04:14:14 pm »
What about Darwin's mate  Federico Santiago Valverde Dipetta from Uruguay .
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34704 on: August 1, 2022, 04:25:37 pm »
That's a lot of money but suppose it depends on wages. But imo we need a new midfielder now and another next summer. But don't think we'll get one. Don't think the money is there. I think if we get one it's because Naby is off. We were never going to replace Ox.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34705 on: August 1, 2022, 04:31:01 pm »
After the success of Diaz, and the long break I wouldn’t be surprised if we were happy to wait until Jan knowing we can strengthen then. Maybe get someone with less time on their contract too.

When is the transfer window this year with the WC?

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« Reply #34706 on: August 1, 2022, 04:32:54 pm »
Why wouldn't the money be there when we were clearly prepared to spend big on Tchouameni

Assumed that was spent on Nunez. We are usually the lowest spenders in the top 6.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34707 on: August 1, 2022, 04:37:14 pm »
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34708 on: August 1, 2022, 04:40:10 pm »
That's a lot of money but suppose it depends on wages. But imo we need a new midfielder now and another next summer. But don't think we'll get one. Don't think the money is there. I think if we get one it's because Naby is off. We were never going to replace Ox.

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If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34709 on: August 1, 2022, 04:41:46 pm »
I really like almost all of them but our midfielders are a bit of an injury prone bunch aren’t they. I’m getting a little worried about Jones on that front too, he seems to be unlucky with injuries. That eye one was ridiculous and it kept him out for ages. Hopefully this current thing turns out to be a precaution only.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34710 on: August 1, 2022, 04:43:05 pm »
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34711 on: August 1, 2022, 05:03:17 pm »
Neil Jones says we're expecting bids for Nat Phillips this week, want £10m for him. Fulham and Bournemouth both keen and two Serie A clubs as well.

One of the promoted PL clubs feels likeliest, they'll have a bit of cash to splash and both their managers are having a go at their clubs for a lack of signings.

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« Reply #34712 on: August 1, 2022, 05:22:27 pm »
Fulham and Bournemouth both in desperation mode with getting transfers in, could work in our favor and drive Nat's price up. Have to think getting £10m-£15m for him is pretty doable.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34713 on: August 1, 2022, 05:29:56 pm »
I think it's looking like another season where we break even.

Just for some context on this.

Net spend in last 2 completed seasons is about 130M euros. That's despite Covid losses and keeping the wage bill in the Top 4 in the PL during that period (combined wage bill for 2020 &  2021 accounts is 2nd highest in PL but very close to Chelsea and United).

What people really mean is that we've had 2 season in last 4 where the net spend was zero or we made a slight profit. In the other 2 seasons we've spent a reasonable amount whilst increasing the wage bill by about 20% over the same period. Also invested in infrastructure improvements during that period.

I don't mind people being critical of how the club decides to spend it's money. But calling them out 'another season where we break even' with regards to transfer spend is a little far fetched. We do break even when you include wages, opertaing costs, infrastructure improvements etc..That;s part of the point of a self sustaining business model. Just looking at transfer spend (and not even doing it correctly) is a bit narrow thinking, IMO.

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« Reply #34714 on: August 1, 2022, 05:34:22 pm »
Assumed that was spent on Nunez. We are usually the lowest spenders in the top 6.

Surely when you combine wages and transfer spend we aren't the lowest spenders?

No-one here knows if the lack of spending on a midfielder is due to funds, availability and/or space in the squad.

Personally I think it's because our top targets aren't available or have gone elsewhere. If Bellingham magically become available tomorrow, I think we'd move for him as long as the transfer fee fitted within our valuation of him and his wages fitted into the current wage structure.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34715 on: August 1, 2022, 05:45:03 pm »
Neil Jones says we're expecting bids for Nat Phillips this week, want £10m for him. Fulham and Bournemouth both keen and two Serie A clubs as well.

One of the promoted PL clubs feels likeliest, they'll have a bit of cash to splash and both their managers are having a go at their clubs for a lack of signings.
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« Reply #34716 on: August 1, 2022, 06:07:32 pm »
Assumed that was spent on Nunez. We are usually the lowest spenders in the top 6.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34717 on: August 1, 2022, 06:53:47 pm »
When does the transfer window slam shut?

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« Reply #34718 on: August 1, 2022, 06:59:55 pm »
Just for some context on this.

Net spend in last 2 completed seasons is about 130M euros. That's despite Covid losses and keeping the wage bill in the Top 4 in the PL during that period (combined wage bill for 2020 &  2021 accounts is 2nd highest in PL but very close to Chelsea and United).

What people really mean is that we've had 2 season in last 4 where the net spend was zero or we made a slight profit. In the other 2 seasons we've spent a reasonable amount whilst increasing the wage bill by about 20% over the same period. Also invested in infrastructure improvements during that period.

I don't mind people being critical of how the club decides to spend it's money. But calling them out 'another season where we break even' with regards to transfer spend is a little far fetched. We do break even when you include wages, opertaing costs, infrastructure improvements etc..That;s part of the point of a self sustaining business model. Just looking at transfer spend (and not even doing it correctly) is a bit narrow thinking, IMO.

We seem to be the only top club that still cares about running a sound operating model, doesn’t seem fair that clubs not as successful are able to spend more than us but it is what it is

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #34719 on: August 1, 2022, 07:58:10 pm »
Just for some context on this.

Net spend in last 2 completed seasons is about 130M euros. That's despite Covid losses and keeping the wage bill in the Top 4 in the PL during that period (combined wage bill for 2020 &  2021 accounts is 2nd highest in PL but very close to Chelsea and United).

What people really mean is that we've had 2 season in last 4 where the net spend was zero or we made a slight profit. In the other 2 seasons we've spent a reasonable amount whilst increasing the wage bill by about 20% over the same period. Also invested in infrastructure improvements during that period.

I don't mind people being critical of how the club decides to spend it's money. But calling them out 'another season where we break even' with regards to transfer spend is a little far fetched. We do break even when you include wages, opertaing costs, infrastructure improvements etc..That;s part of the point of a self sustaining business model. Just looking at transfer spend (and not even doing it correctly) is a bit narrow thinking, IMO.



That wasn't meant as a criticism mate, it just genuinely seems like we are breaking even (maybe even making a profit, if Nat Phillips leaves) and last year recorded record profits, as well as getting quite a few high earners out the door.

In my mind, that means we might have a bit of money to play with for a £40/£50 million midfielder like Nunes (for example) before going big on a generational talent like Bellingham next year (with Ox and Milner gone, Keita a possibility and Thiago and Henderson - who are hardly the most robust - a year older). As I say, this is all just a hunch (a hope?) in my mind, based on nothing, and wasn't meant as a stick to beat FSG with.
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