Author Topic: DC Mega Topic, it's not the MCU (Read 329075 times)

AndyMuller · « **Reply #3600 on:** January 31, 2019, 03:45:32 pm »

Quote from: Agent99 on January 31, 2019, 11:57:07 am

Affleck has confirmed he won't be returning for The Batman.

Good.

redan · « **Reply #3601 on:** January 31, 2019, 04:06:06 pm »

Whilst all the whispers coming from WB/DC appear to lead to more stand alone movies instead of a shared universe, I don't think they should quite give up on the Justice League quite yet.

Wonder Woman and Aquaman (now DC's biggest film ever) have been huge hits for the DCEU and would form a solid base going forward. Brushing 4 films completely under the carpet (MoS, BvS, SS and JL) would be admitting monumental failure. The easiest and most logical way of approaching this problem, with Affleck gone and Cavill seemingly the same, is a version of Flashpoint. A Flashpoint film would give them a way of conveniently erasing the shit stuff whilst keeping the good stuff. The Flash would be the only character who knew the old Batman and Superman so could reference them to include them in the Universe loosely but going forward they wouldn't exist.

DC can still develop standalones like the upcoming Joker film but this would also be going on

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #3602 on:** January 31, 2019, 04:09:07 pm »

Quote from: redan on January 31, 2019, 04:06:06 pm

Whilst all the whispers coming from WB/DC appear to lead to more stand alone movies instead of a shared universe, I don't think they should quite give up on the Justice League quite yet.

Wonder Woman and Aquaman (now DC's biggest film ever) have been huge hits for the DCEU and would form a solid base going forward. Brushing 4 films completely under the carpet (MoS, BvS, SS and JL) would be admitting monumental failure. The easiest and most logical way of approaching this problem, with Affleck gone and Cavill seemingly the same, is a version of Flashpoint. A Flashpoint film would give them a way of conveniently erasing the shit stuff whilst keeping the good stuff. The Flash would be the only characters who knew the old Batman and Superman so could reference them to include them in the Universe loosely but going forward they wouldn't exist.

DC can still develop standalones like the upcoming Joker film but this would also be going on

WW84 possible spoiler...

Spoiler

There was a rumour that WW84 was going to include a flash point type scenario (I think largely based upon Pine returning). It would, as you say, allow for a reset and much sooner than it happening in a Flash movie...if that is still even on the cards, it's been very quiet for a while now.

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Something Worse · « **Reply #3603 on:** January 31, 2019, 04:28:21 pm »

Affleck was easily the best Batman we've had, a real shame he didn't get a movie to himself to cement it.

AndyMuller · « **Reply #3604 on:** January 31, 2019, 04:50:03 pm »

Quote from: Claus on January 31, 2019, 04:28:21 pm

Affleck was easily the best Batman we've had, a real shame he didn't get a movie to himself to cement it.

Bale.

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #3605 on:** January 31, 2019, 04:55:57 pm »

I liked both, both had outstanding scenes. The interrogation of the Joker with Bale is probably my single favourite Batman scene. Rescuing Martha my favourite action scene.

redan · « **Reply #3606 on:** January 31, 2019, 04:57:49 pm »

Yeah that scene in BvS was incredible, it made the fights in any other Batman film seem like they were choreographed by the Power Rangers

Something Worse · « **Reply #3607 on:** January 31, 2019, 05:00:37 pm »

Quote from: AndyMuller on January 31, 2019, 04:50:03 pm

Bale.

Disqualified by the voice

Quote from: redan on January 31, 2019, 04:57:49 pm

Yeah that scene in BvS was incredible, it made the fights in any other Batman film seem like they were choreographed by the Power Rangers

Yup, unreal scene.

Something Worse · « **Reply #3608 on:** January 31, 2019, 05:19:22 pm »

The second best Gunn in entertainment is probably directing Suicide Squad 2, having already written it

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #3609 on:** January 31, 2019, 05:28:39 pm »

Quote from: Claus on January 31, 2019, 05:19:22 pm

The second best Gunn in entertainment is probably directing Suicide Squad 2, having already written it

I think the name is actually The Suicide Squad, and it's a soft reboot. So maybe only Harley surviving the cull?

It's a bit different that they have more upcoming films based around her than any other DC character.

Schmidt · « **Reply #3610 on:** January 31, 2019, 05:38:04 pm »

Quote from: Brian Blessed on January 31, 2019, 05:28:39 pm

I think the name is actually The Suicide Squad, and it's a soft reboot. So maybe only Harley surviving the cull?

It's a bit different that they have more upcoming films based around her than any other DC character.

I just checked imdb, I had no idea they've planned 3-4 different movies with her in. She was the best part of a very bad movie, but was she really that great? Most of the 'bad guys' in that movie were pretty limp, all talk with very little actual being bad, which I think would get stale pretty quickly. If she had started out as an actual villain in a Batman movie or something I could see her having a good story arc, but if she's sort of good from the start then I don't see what they'll do with her.

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #3611 on:** January 31, 2019, 05:46:14 pm »

Quote from: Schmidt on January 31, 2019, 05:38:04 pm

I just checked imdb, I had no idea they've planned 3-4 different movies with her in. She was the best part of a very bad movie, but was she really that great? Most of the 'bad guys' in that movie were pretty limp, all talk with very little actual being bad, which I think would get stale pretty quickly. If she had started out as an actual villain in a Batman movie or something I could see her having a good story arc, but if she's sort of good from the start then I don't see what they'll do with her.

Yeah, they're going down the anti-hero root for sure. And I agree, I'm not sure she's worth that many films.

Her next one is Birds of Prey, and she's teaming up with other heroes to rescue someone from an actual villain.

There is already a teaser out for it, but it only shows the characters, no actual film yet.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/ptLZlrE8MrQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/ptLZlrE8MrQ</a>

Something Worse · « **Reply #3612 on:** January 31, 2019, 05:57:44 pm »

Quote from: Brian Blessed on January 31, 2019, 05:28:39 pm

I think the name is actually The Suicide Squad, and it's a soft reboot. So maybe only Harley surviving the cull?

It's a bit different that they have more upcoming films based around her than any other DC character.

Goddamn it, they better keep Will

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #3613 on:** January 31, 2019, 05:59:22 pm »

Quote from: Claus on January 31, 2019, 05:57:44 pm

Goddamn it, they better keep Will

Oh Claus. Oh dear, oh dear.

gazzalfc · « **Reply #3614 on:** January 31, 2019, 06:37:48 pm »

Forget Batflek and Bale. The best Batman will always be Will Arnett

Something Worse · « **Reply #3615 on:** January 31, 2019, 06:49:38 pm »

Quote from: gazzalfc on January 31, 2019, 06:37:48 pm

Forget Batflek and Bale. The best Batman will always be Will Arnett

He's not even the best animated Batman

Agent99 · « **Reply #3616 on:** January 31, 2019, 07:03:49 pm »

I know I'm an old fucker but the best Batman was Michael Keaton.

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #3617 on:** January 31, 2019, 07:30:42 pm »

Quote from: Agent99 on January 31, 2019, 07:03:49 pm

I know I'm an old fucker but the best Batman was Michael Keaton.

Nessy76 · « **Reply #3618 on:** January 31, 2019, 07:49:31 pm »

Quote from: redan on January 31, 2019, 04:06:06 pm

Whilst all the whispers coming from WB/DC appear to lead to more stand alone movies instead of a shared universe, I don't think they should quite give up on the Justice League quite yet.

Wonder Woman and Aquaman (now DC's biggest film ever) have been huge hits for the DCEU and would form a solid base going forward. Brushing 4 films completely under the carpet (MoS, BvS, SS and JL) would be admitting monumental failure. The easiest and most logical way of approaching this problem, with Affleck gone and Cavill seemingly the same, is a version of Flashpoint. A Flashpoint film would give them a way of conveniently erasing the shit stuff whilst keeping the good stuff. The Flash would be the only character who knew the old Batman and Superman so could reference them to include them in the Universe loosely but going forward they wouldn't exist.

DC can still develop standalones like the upcoming Joker film but this would also be going on

Better to admit monumental failure than perpetuate it. Nobody needs a reboot story. Just make new, better films. Ignore the old stuff. It's fine. James Bond has been doing it for decades.

redan · « **Reply #3619 on:** January 31, 2019, 08:43:09 pm »

Quote from: Nessy76 on January 31, 2019, 07:49:31 pm

Better to admit monumental failure than perpetuate it. Nobody needs a reboot story. Just make new, better films. Ignore the old stuff. It's fine. James Bond has been doing it for decades.

Don’t thing we need a reboot per se, but it’s obvious that any shared DC universe will need a Batman and Superman and that now looks highly unlikely to be Cavill and Affleck. Therefore I can’t see my other option as flashpoint esque redoing of certain parts

Aquaman and Wonder Woman are big hitters now so they’re stories will continue, it’d just be weird if they never acknowledged again that they’re part of the same team

Nessy76 · « **Reply #3620 on:** January 31, 2019, 09:09:23 pm »

Quote from: redan on January 31, 2019, 08:43:09 pm

Don’t thing we need a reboot per se, but it’s obvious that any shared DC universe will need a Batman and Superman and that now looks highly unlikely to be Cavill and Affleck. Therefore I can’t see my other option as flashpoint esque redoing of certain parts

Aquaman and Wonder Woman are big hitters now so they’re stories will continue, it’d just be weird if they never acknowledged again that they’re part of the same team

Yes, but they can just recast Batman and Superman. They shouldn't make a song and dance about it. It's like when they do a reboot in the comics because the continuity is too convoluted, and they end up making it even worse.

Beav · « **Reply #3621 on:** February 1, 2019, 04:19:36 pm »

Yeah I think you just recast them, make new movies and just don't bother trying to explain it "in universe", just have them team up with Wonder Woman and Aquaman and whoever people like. It was a big garbage fire that audiences didn't connect with, best to just cut your losses than go "wait guys, let us explain how we are fixing things".

El Lobo · « **Reply #3622 on:** February 1, 2019, 06:36:07 pm »

Quote from: WhereAngelsPlay on January 31, 2019, 07:30:42 pm

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #3623 on:** February 11, 2019, 03:57:48 pm »

Doom patrol starts on Friday.

ScottScott · « **Reply #3624 on:** February 13, 2019, 10:41:13 am »

Been watching Titans on Netflix and it's really good. Not as good as Daredevil or Punisher but definitely up there. Interesting characters and an introduction to the Doom Patrol as well. 5 episodes in so far

Nessy76 · « **Reply #3625 on:** February 13, 2019, 12:25:30 pm »

Quote from: ScottScott on February 13, 2019, 10:41:13 am

Been watching Titans on Netflix and it's really good. Not as good as Daredevil or Punisher but definitely up there. Interesting characters and an introduction to the Doom Patrol as well. 5 episodes in so far

Yes, enjoyed it. Good mix of weird concepts and action. Arrow for grown-ups.

Kopite Tom · « **Reply #3626 on:** February 13, 2019, 12:30:46 pm »

Quote from: WhereAngelsPlay on February 11, 2019, 03:57:48 pm

Doom patrol starts on Friday.

Seems to be getting some positive reviews too, will check it out on the weekend.

blert596 · « **Reply #3627 on:** February 13, 2019, 01:12:15 pm »

Yeah titans has been a lot darker than I thought it was gonna be. Good 1st season.

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #3628 on:** February 13, 2019, 05:52:42 pm »

Quote from: Kopite Tom on February 13, 2019, 12:30:46 pm

Seems to be getting some positive reviews too, will check it out on the weekend.

The Umbrella Academy airs on Friday as well.

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #3629 on:** March 7, 2019, 05:06:47 pm »

The Will Smith character from Suicide Squad is being replaced by Dead Shot, with Idris Elba playing him.

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/idris-elba-will-smith-deadshot-suicide-squad-sequel-1203154025/

Mr Mingebag Squid · « **Reply #3630 on:** March 8, 2019, 04:02:23 pm »

I thought Will Smith was Deadshot?

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #3631 on:** March 8, 2019, 04:05:22 pm »

Quote from: Mr Mingebag Squid on March 8, 2019, 04:02:23 pm

I thought Will Smith was Deadshot?

tubby · « **Reply #3632 on:** March 8, 2019, 04:06:43 pm »

Yeah he was.

More interested in the Brightburn (Ultraman?) movie and praying that it's somehow tied into the DC universe because that would be a really nice direction to move into.

Mr Mingebag Squid · « **Reply #3633 on:** March 8, 2019, 04:10:31 pm »

Quote from: Brian Blessed on March 8, 2019, 04:05:22 pm

Replacing with a "proper" deadshot?

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #3634 on:** March 8, 2019, 04:18:16 pm »

Quote from: Mr Mingebag Squid on March 8, 2019, 04:10:31 pm

Replacing with a "proper" deadshot?

More like an actor who plays characters, not just himself.

I'm not a Smith fan

Something Worse · « **Reply #3635 on:** March 8, 2019, 04:33:19 pm »

Quote from: Brian Blessed on March 8, 2019, 04:18:16 pm

More like an actor who plays characters, not just himself.

I'm not a Smith fan

Elba can't play anyone other than a Brit, I'm not looking forward to hearing him maul yet another accent.

(I know he was good in The Wire but that was 20 years ago)

ScouserAtHeart · « **Reply #3636 on:** March 9, 2019, 06:22:14 am »

Social media embargo on Shazam! was lifter. Getting really good first reactions

Something Worse · « **Reply #3637 on:** March 9, 2019, 06:23:42 am »

Quote from: ScouserAtHeart on March 9, 2019, 06:22:14 am

Social media embargo on Shazam! was lifter. Getting really good first reactions

Just came here post that, the early ones are usually good so it's doesn't mean anything yet.

Also sounds like a Marvel movie, reading the between the lines. Yay.

ScouserAtHeart · « **Reply #3638 on:** March 9, 2019, 07:31:25 am »

Quote from: Claus on March 9, 2019, 06:23:42 am

Just came here post that, the early ones are usually good so it's doesn't mean anything yet.

Also sounds like a Marvel movie, reading the between the lines. Yay.

Feels like Marvel's gonna struggle after Endgame, especially if a lot of the old guard are moved on one way or another.

Might be DC's time to shine, finally.

El Lobo · « **Reply #3639 on:** March 9, 2019, 08:32:08 am »

Quote from: ScouserAtHeart on March 9, 2019, 07:31:25 am

Feels like Marvel's gonna struggle after Endgame, especially if a lot of the old guard are moved on one way or another.

Might be DC's time to shine, finally.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/variety.com/2019/film/news/idris-elba-will-smith-deadshot-suicide-squad-sequel-1203154025/amp/