Author Topic: Draft Towers (Read 320186 times)

Lastrador · « **Reply #5440 on:** March 31, 2022, 04:03:10 pm »

Quote from: Betty Blue on March 31, 2022, 03:39:36 pm

Honestly, I'm not sure it does work. The saddo that I am I researched each block and the balance just isn't there. Africa is tough but doable, but there aren't nearly enough players to go around in the Americas or Asia. We need around 32-48 viable picks remember. The Amercias are maybe just about doable at 32, but Asia is so far off the other 3 blocks. Europe as a whole block is also exceptionally easy - stronger than any individual nation from the last two drafts.

I don't know how to fix it though. I've tried resorting the blocks, but it always turns out unbalanced in one way or another.

I think the Americas might just work on its own. The talent pool is there, but most of you might not know the names. Africa, Asia and Oceania have to be put into one block though, and then you can split Europe into two different brackets, East and West.

Betty Blue · « **Reply #5441 on:** March 31, 2022, 04:26:53 pm »

Quote from: Lastrador on March 31, 2022, 04:03:10 pm

I think the Americas think might just work on its own. The talent pool is there, but most of you might not know the names. Africa, Asia and Oceania have to be put into one block though, and then you can split Europe into two different brackets, East and West.

Yeah, that's the issue really. I remember picking Romerito in a previous draft and no-one having a clue who he is, and he's one of the more modern ones. Names like Andrade, Nasazzi, and Schiaffino are legendary, but pretty much any pre-70s player has become a death sentence in drafting of late.

100% agree on Asia, Africa, and Oceania joining forces.

Also, agree on Europe. Not sure how to divide it up geographically though as you've got Portugal down in south western Europe, Scandinavia northern, Belgium considered as western, Poland, Czechia, Hungary, Austria and Switzerland in the centre, and the old Eastern bloc (Croatia, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine, Yugoslavia etc).

And then there's Ireland, Wales, and Scotland of course, who as Elzar suggested are possibly strong enough on their own.

Linudden · « **Reply #5442 on:** March 31, 2022, 04:41:53 pm »

Quote from: Betty Blue on March 31, 2022, 03:50:42 pm

Just trying to understand your idea...

Are you proposing a simple 11 from 11 draft from the remaining nations? Where we each can only pick one nation once? i.e. Samie picks Modric in round 1, so he rules himself out from picking any more Croats. But then in round 4 Hazell can still pick Suker.

Or are you suggesting that when a nation is picked that rules them out for everyone? i.e. Eusebio goes, then all Portuguese go for every drafter.

If it's the latter then I think that's too restrictive, but the former I like a lot and I'd be 100% in for.

It's the former

Simply 11 for 11 among all 203 remaining FIFA nations. Every drafter can choose from every nation unrestricted so long as the player is available and they haven't chosen a compatriot themselves beforehand. Every single drafter may select a Portuguese player for example.

El Lobo · « **Reply #5443 on:** March 31, 2022, 04:43:27 pm »

Quote from: Betty Blue on March 31, 2022, 04:26:53 pm

Yeah, that's the issue really. I remember picking Romerito in a previous draft and no-one having a clue who he is, and he's one of the more modern ones. Names like Andrade, Nasazzi, and Schiaffino are legendary, but pretty much any pre-70s player has become a death sentence in drafting of late.

100% agree on Asia, Africa, and Oceania joining forces.

Also, agree on Europe. Not sure how to divide it up geographically though as you've got Portugal down in south western Europe, Scandinavia northern, Belgium considered as western, Poland, Czechia, Hungary, Austria and Switzerland in the centre, and the old Eastern bloc (Croatia, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine, Yugoslavia etc).

And then there's Ireland, Wales, and Scotland of course, who as Elzar suggested are possibly strong enough on their own.

You could almost draw a line down the middle (well Italy/Norway) and do one East and t'other West.

El Lobo · « **Reply #5444 on:** March 31, 2022, 04:52:40 pm »

What on earth are you on about now?

The whole point is Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Holland and England aren't included as its the 'finishing' of the 4 of Countries drafts.

Linudden · « **Reply #5445 on:** March 31, 2022, 04:53:38 pm »

Quote from: El Lobo on March 31, 2022, 04:52:40 pm

What on earth are you on about now?

The whole point is Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Holland and England aren't included as its the 'finishing' of the 4 of Countries drafts.

Giving Lobo headaches, apparently

Then, west under cold war and east under cold war + Greece/Turkey/Israel makes sense for Europe in that sense.

Betty Blue · « **Reply #5446 on:** March 31, 2022, 04:56:54 pm »

Quote from: Lewis Hamilton’s #1 fan on March 31, 2022, 04:41:53 pm

It's the former

Simply 11 for 11 among all 203 remaining FIFA nations. Every drafter can choose from every nation unrestricted so long as the player is available and they haven't chosen a compatriot themselves beforehand. Every single drafter may select a Portuguese player for example.

Not for me then. No-one wants to be drafting from Suriname in round 7.

Linudden · « **Reply #5447 on:** March 31, 2022, 04:57:43 pm »

Quote from: Betty Blue on March 31, 2022, 04:56:54 pm

Not for me then. No-one wants to be drafting from Suriname in round 7.

You misunderstood me, badly.

Every drafter CAN draft a Portuguese player

Et cetera. You only cup-tie a nation for yourself. Not for anyone else.

Betty Blue · « **Reply #5448 on:** March 31, 2022, 05:00:35 pm »

Quote from: Lewis Hamilton’s #1 fan on March 31, 2022, 04:57:43 pm

You misunderstood me, badly.

Every drafter CAN draft a Portuguese player Et cetera. You only cup-tie a nation for yourself. Not for anyone else.

Oh sorry. I like it in that case. We've done 11 from 11 with ALL nations before and it was really fun. Taking out those core 8 bigger nations would hopefully make it even more interesting

I do like the idea of completing the set with the 4 of series too, but it just doesn't feel as balanced as the last two right now.

Samie · « **Reply #5449 on:** March 31, 2022, 05:09:27 pm »

I'm up for 11 on 11.

Bagsie East Timor.

Linudden · « **Reply #5450 on:** March 31, 2022, 05:12:33 pm »

Linudden
Betty Blue
Samie
El Lobo (if Trump doesn't participate)

Hazell
AdzLFC

I'll edit and add more names throughout for each that show interest

Hopefully we could get 16 for the Rest of the World '11 on 11'.

El Lobo · « **Reply #5451 on:** March 31, 2022, 05:49:21 pm »

As long as Elzars running it I’m in, not up for a Trump draft

Hazell · « **Reply #5452 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:10:33 pm »

What's a Trump draft?

Betty Blue · « **Reply #5453 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:12:17 pm »

Goddamn, did I accidentally sign up for a Trump draft again?

Samie · « **Reply #5454 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:16:05 pm »

Bagise Coffofee!

Linudden · « **Reply #5455 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:16:21 pm »

I think we could keep the orange clown out of the next draft so Lobo can rest easily

Hazell · « **Reply #5456 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:17:41 pm »

Quote from: Samie on March 31, 2022, 06:16:05 pm

Bagise Coffofee!

I thought it was one where you pick which of your family members you fancy.

Linudden · « **Reply #5457 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:21:51 pm »

Quote from: Hazell on March 31, 2022, 06:17:41 pm

I thought it was one where you pick which of your family members you fancy.

I hope you're in for the rest of the world draft Hazell? Time to get one over Nick

Hazell · « **Reply #5458 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:25:36 pm »

I am in. What are we doing again?

Betty Blue · « **Reply #5459 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:32:33 pm »

Quote from: Hazell on March 31, 2022, 06:25:36 pm

I am in. What are we doing again?

We're picking 11 of our all-time favourite fascist dictators from 11 different countries.

Hazell · « **Reply #5460 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:35:08 pm »

Quote from: Betty Blue on March 31, 2022, 06:32:33 pm

We're picking 11 of our all-time favourite fascist dictators from 11 different countries.

Are Argentina available after being in the previous 4 from international draft? If so, I'll pick Passarella please.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #5461 on:** March 31, 2022, 06:35:15 pm »

Quote from: Betty Blue on March 31, 2022, 04:56:54 pm

Not for me then. No-one wants to be drafting from Suriname in round 7.

Anthony Nesty. Floats like a butterfly.

Linudden · « **Reply #5462 on:** March 31, 2022, 08:37:30 pm »

Quote from: Crosby Nick on March 31, 2022, 06:35:15 pm

Anthony Nesty. Floats like a butterfly.

I hope the reigning champ is in on defending his title?

Either way, I'm happy to let Elzar run the draft if it makes our Leicestershire spreader of happiness Lobiño feel better.

vivabobbygraham · « **Reply #5463 on:** March 31, 2022, 09:39:22 pm »

Quote from: Lewis Hamilton’s #1 fan on March 31, 2022, 06:16:21 pm

I think we could keep the orange clown out of the next draft so Lobo can rest easily

Better to keep lobo out and the orange clown in, wouldn't it?

El Lobo · « **Reply #5464 on:** March 31, 2022, 10:20:37 pm »

Quote from: vivabobbygraham on March 31, 2022, 09:39:22 pm

Better to keep lobo out and the orange clown in, wouldn't it?

Linudden · « **Reply #5465 on:** April 18, 2022, 11:36:45 am »

I'd fancy a straight up Ingurland draft next, that really would be something

Only one criteria: The player must be English.

In effect, not played more caps for another country at a senior level than what he did for England.

Samie · « **Reply #5466 on:** April 18, 2022, 01:56:31 pm »

Wait for the season to end and the summer. No international tournaments for the men but we have Women's Euros.

Hazell · « **Reply #5467 on:** April 18, 2022, 03:48:17 pm »

I'd be up for an England draft. Although like Samie says, might be best to wait until after the season now, we've got a game every 3 days until the last league game of the season and drafts are better as a distraction when we're crap.

Lastrador · « **Reply #5468 on:** April 18, 2022, 05:05:29 pm »

Quote from: Linudden on April 18, 2022, 11:36:45 am

I'd fancy a straight up Ingurland draft next, that really would be something

Only one criteria: The player must be English.

In effect, not played more caps for another country at a senior level than what he did for England.

Calm down, Nigel.

Linudden · « **Reply #5469 on:** April 18, 2022, 05:27:35 pm »

Quote from: Lastrador on April 18, 2022, 05:05:29 pm

Calm down, Nigel.

All well in Mexico? Is the wall blocking the street yet?

(yeah Las is Uruguayan I know in before Lobo).

Either way, it's a good draft to get some proper mediocre shite on the pitch and have a laugh at it.

Betty Blue · « **Reply #5470 on:** April 18, 2022, 05:30:22 pm »

I'd be more interested in a reverse English draft. i.e. Foreigners only Premier League draft (discounting all nations in the British Isles)

Like Hazell says though, probably best to take a small break now for the final run-in.

El Lobo · « **Reply #5471 on:** April 19, 2022, 12:51:42 pm »

Quote from: Linudden on April 18, 2022, 05:27:35 pm

(yeah Las is Uruguayan I know in before Lobo).

Fucking hell you really are smitten

I'll do you a premium snapchat if you want.

Quote from: Betty Blue on April 18, 2022, 05:30:22 pm

I'd be more interested in a reverse English draft. i.e. Foreigners only Premier League draft (discounting all nations in the British Isles)

Like Hazell says though, probably best to take a small break now for the final run-in.

Yeah foreign only PL would be good but we should have a break now like you say, more important things

Samie · « **Reply #5472 on:** May 28, 2022, 01:58:36 pm »

This thread on standby from Monday lads. Just in case.

4 of Internationals v3.0

El Lobo · « **Reply #5473 on:** May 30, 2022, 02:16:55 pm »

Quote from: Samie on May 28, 2022, 01:58:36 pm

This thread on standby from Monday lads. Just in case.

4 of Internationals v3.0

Do it

Elzar · « **Reply #5474 on:** May 30, 2022, 02:18:08 pm »

On holiday next week, but happy to do something the week after.

Sarge · « **Reply #5475 on:** May 30, 2022, 06:23:59 pm »

What is it?

Elzar · « **Reply #5476 on:** May 31, 2022, 10:59:46 am »

Quote from: Sarge on May 30, 2022, 06:23:59 pm

What is it?

I didn't think that far ahead.

Sarge · « **Reply #5477 on:** May 31, 2022, 09:09:11 pm »

Jaysus.

Samie · « **Reply #5478 on:** June 1, 2022, 01:52:04 pm »

I've an idea, it's a spin on a draft we've not done in a long time. I call it the:

"Football Circle Draft"

All Time Draft

Example:

You make your #1 pick say it's Ronaldo your #2 pick has to be someone who played at club level with Ronaldo. So your #2 pick is now say Zidane, #3 pick of yours has to be someone who played at club level with Zidane. It doesn't matter if he didn't play with your first pick which is Ronaldo in this case.

Here's the extra little rule though, Your 11th pick has to have played with your first pick.

2-1
3-2
4-3
5-4
6-5
7-6
8-7
9-8
10-9
11-10
11-1

Sheer Magnetism · « **Reply #5479 on:** June 1, 2022, 02:02:52 pm »

Current day footballers draft. It's been long enough, and an off season with no big tournament is the ideal time to do it.